2024 Big 12 Wrestling Tournament semifinal 149lbs Jordan Williams (Oklahoma State) dec Casey Swiderski (Iowa State) I do not own this video, all credit/rights to ESPN/Big 12
Absolutely! This is the one major flaw in folk style wrestling! Leaving it to the subjective choice of the ref is unacceptable. If a wrestler steps out, point for the opponent.
I don't know about it for the whole match, 3rd period for sure, or hear me out...make that shit a flea and auto point...too much sprinting backwards. @@lexingtonconcord8751
Just call stalling like he should have. Williams should have had 7 stall calls and the worst part of it is they hit Swiderski with a stall call early in the 1st for no reason.
@@erichvonmanstein8980 "Like he should have" is the current rule, and it is too subjective. Stepping outside the cylinder is an objective line the ref would not have discretion to call a point. The rule should be, if the wrestler steps out, his opponent gets a point. That takes away from the current nonsense of running to the edge of the cylinder as a strategy for winning
Badly reffed match. Missed locked hands call. Missed fleeing the mat and stalling call at the end. Multiple missed stalling to return to the circle. Missed cautions for not toeing the line.
That ref had a person in mind he wanted to win.. ot shows the way he officiated the match. Swidwrski was asking for blood time in the second, but never was awarded. Fleeing the mat in the second, never noticed. No takedown in the third, and everything goes to suit! You "shut up bro", get skilled on the sport of wrestling.. not calling someone out for being right
He grabbed at his right collar bone when he first faked the injury, then went to his left. He never should have gotten the second takedown, it was called too fast.
look at 7:43 time stamp on the video. Williams clearly has his hands locked around Swiderski's waist and Swiderski's knee is on the mat. The whistle comes much later.@@ajharris5610
@@dtc8249 ok I just rewatched What your talking about I wrestle in college there is a three point contact rule there Was only two points of contact for like half a Sec Casey was coming up but I do see where it should have been locking hands but there is two refs on the mat I think one of which def would’ve got it if it was locking
The primary reason you don’t have better officials Is because parents chase them away in youth developmental leagues. Refs have to learn the skills and that takes practice. By definition, mistakes will be made. But who wants to deal with the verbal abuse, and sometimes physical threats and physical abuse from parents of 8-10 year old children? If the parents want better refs, go volunteer and be one. There isn’t a single referee, in any sport, in the armature levels doing it because the money is good.
The ostate kid should have been hit with multiple start infractions on the neutral start.....it's not the referee's job to instruct the wrestler that his foot isn't on the line, that in itself was a form of stalling by not being in proximity of the opponent at the start whistle. I hate to be critical of the official, but that match should have gone into ot to determine the winner. Clearly stalled and fleeed the center of the mat.
If points are imminent when an injury happens you award the points, he was clearly at least getting 1 there. Ref waited way too long to call stalling considering he walked backwards the entire time from the first whistle. Horrible
@@BlONIC No, Pat Smith and Williams should have had good sportsmanship and neither did. They both knew Williams was spent after the Second and could no longer compete, then coming out after the injury timeout, Williams quit completely, he knew he was going to lose if he didn't just stall. It was pathetic.
Worse officiating I’ve seen in a long time. There should be accountability for this official. Also the OSU kid stalled the entire 2nd and 3rd periods. Should have been stalled out.
That looked like it was really against the joint. Some knees they finish a match and some really can’t move for awhile. From watching it’s hard to tell severity.
Rather than talk trash about Williams, can we remember there are just young adults, if your the 4 seed against the 1 and your 1 match away from making it to nationals, ofc you will do what u have to, he scored early on, got hurt, and still finished the match, win is a win. Cant blame the refs either, the are a neutral party, OK state is not paying them. Casey was and is the better wrestlers and he will beat him the next time they meet
I agree with everything, you said, except he was, the better wrestler. As of right now Williams is, and only the future will tell sometimes guys need that win to get that confidence to go to the next level. Maybe this was Williams kickstart!
Casey only wrestled about 40 seconds of the match and that was in the 3rd period after Jordan got hurt... Shoulda started the match with that same level of fire in his belly might have won the match
In my humble opinion Casey stalled almost the whole first period. He only found Jordans leg twice from an offensive standpoint...... Wanna win gotta wrestle
3rd round 1:00 Locking hands. The ref should have hit OKST for backing out of bounds like he did the previous two times. The expectation to not stall gets higher the more your hit for stalling.
Just to preface, I’m not a fan of either team. I understand the complaints about stalling but are y’all forgetting that Williams was winning 7-2 before getting injured? Those 7 points weren’t lucky. Casey got beat, fair and square. Im sure they’ll meet again anyways.
Racist reffing. Sad but true. No calls are consistent, & are clearly lop sided. Missed locked hands on OSU right before injury, No cautions for toe on the line, No fleeing the matt….This scrub of a ref robbed these athletes of a true National Championship match.
Williams wrestled a very good match until the final minute of the 3rd, but it definitely was not reffed the same. Williams took 3 shots in a row in the 1st and Casey got hit for stalling, same thing happened but the reverse in the second and no stalling for Williams? I don’t think the takedown out of the scramble in the 3rd was a takedown, Casey still held the ankle and was moving out of the postion when called, and no matter the situation, if a wrestlers goes out of bounds backwards, it’s stalling 100% and I think Casey should have gotten one more stalling at the end, but it is what it is
Stepping off the mat is one thing, but they didn’t give the point to the loser even though the whistle was blown before time was up. That would have tied the match.
For me, I put some of the blame on the coaches for not calling a challenge. I understand that sometimes officiating we focus on other things such as reversal, safety, etc. Things are missed unfortunately, and hence why there is a mat assistant. There was a failure on the officials missing the locked hands, then failure on the coach to call it. The match would/should have went into overtime.
Kinda wild that the only thing you guys are talking about is Williams stall out during the last minute of the match but not Swiderski's unsportsmanlike antics during the whole match. Unnecessary shoves, slapping headgear, blatant trash-talking, etc?...no?...interesting
Interesting that YOU stick up for him. He should have been called for stalling at least 3 more times......I'm an Iowa fan that absolutely hates Iowa State.....
@@jouskehigaskita8835 Hilarious that you two watch the dude back his ass out for an entire period and a half and come to this conclusion, and also pull the "thug" card? That shit's played out, just stop. Put it this way, do you honestly think John Smith is thinking, "that Swideski wrestled too dirty against my guy"? He will guaranteed give him a bit of a chewing out about his wrestling in this match. I'll give Williams credit for outfoxing Siderski to get his scores but we all know who outwrestled who. Williams better toughen his ass up for the tournament, maybe work on some f*cking cardio you think? Swiderski for his part has just gotta be a little more strategic. Straight-on battering ram shots aren't going to beat the highest level dudes.
Everyone in the comment section gets mad when black people use every rule in the book. Everyone plays safe in the third if you're up 2-4 points, then he goes and gets injured and proceeds to do the what most great wrestlers do burn the clock
Nobody complained when Jordan Oliver didn’t get 2 on Logie bear in the natty finals to protect logies legacy. You all act like the ref was paid.. a win is a win. Let’s see what happens next time
Not a great job by the officials, missed a obvious fleeing the mat call early. Missed stall calls getting back to center, and literally running backward 4 times after initial start on the feet.
That ref was dumb… he faked an injury looking to be saved, cause he knew Casey was gonna score. How you go down touch one shoulder and then fake the other.
There's at LEAST 4 times when the Iowa State kid shows a lack of sportsmanship. This is NOT acceptable. Especially at a championship level. His opponent never reacts to him, fortunately.
I agree this wasn't officiated the greatest. Casey left the door open and Williams took advantage. He can only blame himself for that. Hopefully next time we can see well officiated wrestling and not a track meet. Definitely inconsistent in stalling!
Man, it’s a lot of y’all butt hurt to see your brother win!! Swiderski was that good? He would’ve been down by five points in the third period! The ref didn’t do that! It’s some low-key racist bleep going on here 😂😂😂 HE LOST, FAIR AND SQUARE!!😂😂🥲🤣🤣
You brought up a great point. That stall on Casey in the 1st was bs and set the tone that 2nd take down was called way to early and was about to be reversed. But I really dont think a black man could be racist.
Bad reffing Jordan should of had 2 stall in the 2 period. Ref called that second take down way too early. I think Jordan is a great wrestler. Casey exposed Jordan. Jordan is slick but ran most of the match. But hey he won with the Ref's help. JMHO
Foot wasn’t on the line three times for one and he ran tge whole last 1:30 really ran most away most of the 2nd period casey a wider ski way better of wrestler
Swiderski is a punk. He Tried this same shit with real woods too. Hears an idea... try not allowing these guys such a lead that they can get hit with stalling 3 times and still win. There is passionate and then theres ignorant... he isnt on the right side 🤦♂️
Just listened to Caseys CFTV video and I liked it. He realized he wasn't getting after it the way he should have the first 2 periods or so...good learning experience for him. He's already a handful but when he gets on his offense vs just taking ground he'll be tough to beat. As a former college wrestler and dad of 3 wrestlers...I want to see more respect in the sport from everyone. I love the "Wrestling with gratitude" movement.
don’t get taken down in the first. Don’t talk shit in the first.. this osu kid wrestled a good match until the end. But that’s the sport.. sometimes u gotta be dirty to win. U gotta know how to just win. Yes it could’ve went both ways. But in end Williams did just enough to win and that’s the sport
I love OSU but wtf, that was HORRIBLE to watch towards the end. take a low level show and get in on a leg to eat the time up or CIRCLE AND HAND FIGHT. Jordan Williams looked like a scared little puppy dog out there. Horrible.
not a follower of either team or wrestler... came across an article talking about controversy and how the "better" wrestler got screwed... Im sorry but I watched a 7 minute match where a lower seed controlled every aspect of it for 6 full minutes, out shooting his opponent by a significant margin and controlling an entire match. Then an injury, which to me looked like he mouthed "I just broke my collar bone (now whether that's what happened or not who knows... but that's surely what he thinks just happened). So up 5 pts with an injury and 1 minute left, the opposing player finally decided to try and turn it on for 60 seconds... and came up short. Anyone who wants to see someone win on 4 stalling calls in the final 30 seconds has zero respect for the sport.
I agree with you except for the other guy finally trying with sixty seconds left. IMO he was trying the whole time but got owned. I'm not sure why these people dislike the winner so much. He was dominating and was then injured. It's either a hate for OSU or something else. Hopefully not racism.
@@johnjoevilla i mean yes, if he was not trying he woulda have been tech'ed in 20 seconds, but he initiated way more of the action once he knew his opponent was hurt, which he should do obviously... but yeah people arguing that he was "robbed"... its like really... dude got worked for 6 minutes
Wait the left, no whoops the right .... time out. How about this, I bet Fix would have been a 4 timer if you put him in any other singlet. Okst boys got no heart, no gas tank, but really fast shoes. Maybe track is a better sport for their guys.
This jerk of a 1 seed doesn't know how to NOT shove his opponent...AFTER the whistle has been called. He does this 3 times and the ref never seems to even warn this guy. Are you kidding me?
Should have been 7-5 at time of injury … Williams should have been in down position after injury time out..Iowa State kid got screwed…..Stalling in last 20 secs was brutal…..Refs were a joke
I watched this whole match. And this was absolutely bad referring. And to anyone who says Casey was only active in the third is wrong. Or doesn’t know wrestling. All three periods Jordan fled the mat and was only called twice. Jordan looks to be like a very good defensive wrestler but unfortunately just horrible refing here
It sounds like yall all just wanted to the White Boy to win over the Black Kid, sad to say. But you should read the room. He got taken down twice to one take down 😂😂
Terrible officiating! No takedown in the third, led by a potentially dangerous call when he os getting taken down?!? While he is asking for injury time??? That ref was obviously wanting someone in A certain color singelet to win!! 🤬
This was a pathetic showing of wrestling by Williams, and frankly coaching by Smith. He couldn't beat the kid, so don't wrestle him, just stall. I hope the NCAA implements rule changes to give much more severe penalties in the future for kids that do exactly what Williams did in this match.
