Strome is a bust, 3rd overall and couldn’t crack the lowly coyotes line up when others in that draft made their teams better. Highly doubt Strome makes Kane or debrincat better. Number 1 centres make others better, not the case for this bust, just like when he captained Canada at WJC.
Strome a bust?? Since coming to Chicago he’s turned it around scoring 4 goals in 7 games and has looked really good. He hasn’t even had a full season in the NHL, give the kid a break.
You are misinterpreting what he means by "NHL Draft busts". He was a bust from Arizona's perspective. Whether he's talented or not isn't the point.... it's about what he brings to the organization that drafts him.
Calling him a bust because he hasn’t matched players like McDavid is just insane. Players often take time to develop. Many huge talents took a few years to get going.
In hindsight to my comment above, I didn't realize just how few games Strome in particular had actually played with Arizona. So seeing the criticism about him being on this list makes a lot more sense to me now. I think my point is still relevant in general terms, but Strome seems like an Arizona blunder more than anything else. I can see him going really far with the right NHL team.
@@Adam202 The video title is "Draft Busts" full stop, not poor choices for NHL teams which is what you're describing. This video is going to look utterly ridiculous if Dylan Strome and/or Jack Campbell turn into good NHL players or even stars which is definitely still possible. He's got a ton of busts to choose from and he picked two guys at least who are still developing and it's pretty clear he needs to do more research.
You are misinterpreting what is meant by an "NHL Draft bust". He was a bust from Arizona's perspective. Whether he's talented or not isn't the point.... it's about what he brings to the organization that drafts him. Even if Strome goes on to produce amazing numbers in the future, he will forever be a draft bust for Arizona. That doesn't mean he is a bad player, or that he is a failure either.
Adam202 Okay I see what you’re saying about it not working out for Arizona. However, in the short sample size from his play in Chicago, it’s Arizona’s own fault he didn’t work out for them. Not giving him enough minutes and quality teammates didn’t give themselves any favors.
@@stevenpfaff14 I would imagine that finding the right organization with individual players, coaches, and staff that can all work well together is a far greater challenge than most fans realize from the outside looking in. It's always nice to see players that have struggled on one team, go on to thrive with another team. It can't just be as simple as having talented players, because they all need to be able to play well together as well.
@@stevenpfaff14 In hindsight, I didn't realize just how few games Strome had actually played with Arizona. So seeing the criticism about him being on this list makes a lot more sense to me now. I think my point is still relevant in general terms, but Strome seems like an Arizona blunder more than anything else. I can see him going really far with the right NHL team.
Cameron Lee not really sure why some of these players are in here. In hindsight every draft is 20/20. But it takes time for each player to develop. Guess who probably wants Jack Campbell right now? Dallas Stars lol
How many goalies as of recently can claim the same thing though? Bernier, Scrivens, Budaj, Jones, Enroth, Kuemper all being really good for Quick stand ins with only like Jones being the only one actually showing the ability to keep that consistency all be playing behind another good d core in SJ
@@Branden2050 la was good before when those guys were on the team. They are terrible now. Bernier went on to match his la seasons in Toronto. Kuemper was great this year. Scrivens and enroth played less than 20 games for la.
@@konsultarvode6527 getting traded from a team that drafted a player isnt a bust.... Bust is a player that couldnt crack to the full potential on any team the player played and tried out for, Leland Irving, Nikita Filatov and many others are perfect examples of a real draft bust.
Peter Mueller wasn't a bust because he lacked skill to play at the pro-level. Following his trade to Colorado he posted 20 points in the remaining 16 games of the season. After that he suffered a couple of concussions and a groin injury. His promising career was cut short.
I didn't say he lacked the skill, in fact, i mentioned he missed a full year because of concussion and groin problems. Just because he had injury troubles doesn't exempt him from being considered a bust of a draft pick.
Strome should not have been on this. Hes done well since going to chicago. Clearly there is some developmental issue in Arizona. A guy like Gudbranson should have been there instead of strome.
Then how is Schamltz doing so well and Strome didn’t, he looked brutal in Arizona. Way to early to call him not a bust yet, hand full of goals and couple of them would normally never go in.
Douglas Schultz Olli Jolevi has been plagued with injuries and is playing pretty well in the AHL rn, Jake has been getting better and better every year and is on pace for 50+ points, and btw a bust is labeled as someone who doesn’t play in the NHL consistently throughout their career not just someone that isn’t as good as the position they were drafted in. So Jake is not a bust, but Olli can be. The Canucks keep bringing free agents in not giving Olli a chance.
@Team Builder lmfao and he put up almost 100 points as a 16 year old in the Q, not to mention that the 07 Remparts were young and had a bunch of average at best veterans. Little tip, if you're going to look at stats, don't just pull up 1 number and call it a day buddy lmfao. They lost Radulov and Vlasic from the 05-06 team, no shit his points dipped. He went from having a capable player on his line, to having to drag up a team that had nobody on it besides him with any upside at all. Seriously, go look at the 06-07 Remparts and tell me you actually recognize another name on that team. Esposito had a bunch of injuries that ran down his career into nothing, but to say he didn't have any shot at actually making it, is ridiculous.
The coyotes ruined Dylan Strome He’s literally been a point per game on every other team except the coyotes if you’re an Arizona fan be mad at the coyotes development not Dylan Strome
I mean look at Chycrun, Fischer, Dvorak, and Crouse! They all seem like they could be way better players if they get the he'll out of Arizona. They just can't develop players as well as other organizations in the league. Clayton Keller is really good though!
@@ReepsFilms I'm just saying if they were on a different team, they probably could be better players than they are. But I do agree that Dvorak is the best of the people I pointed out.
In 2006 Montreal drafts David Fischer 20th overall. Fischer would play a grand total of zero NHL games. But what really makes this a bust is that two picks later, Philadelphia drafted Claude Giroux. Ouch!!!!
I dont doubt they all suck, but can you honestly say someone drafted 30th overall is a bust ? From the start they are not expected to score a 50 pts rookie season. Im a habs fan and i know david fischer is somewhat right. And also angelo esposito, but the rest.. they were 50/50 to begin with
@@abc9570 I have no idea, probably offseason or he's getting back from injury? If he was traded he'd be wearing panthers gear right away and he wouldn't be wearing pads from 2008 lol
It was a BIG mistake putting Jack Campbell on this list as it appears he's found his niche as at least a backup NHL goalie, and possibly more. He's only 26 and goalies are productive well into their 30s. In his last 20 NHL games his save percentage is .924 which is well above the current NHL average. If he continues to produce calling him a "draft bust" and having him 8th on this list is going to make a mockery of your whole video. Except for Dylan Strome (calling Strome a bust is also premature), the rest of the guys on this list are either playing in Europe or in the AHL with no chance of an NHL career whereas Campbell is currently producing well at the NHL level.
@@ReepsFilms What he did for Dallas DOES NOT MAKE HIM A BUST. It makes Dallas' decision to give up on him a poor one. And to say he has "scraped out a career" is premature as he's 26 and the average age for a No. 1 NHL goalie is 31. And some goalies like Mike Smith, Craig Anderson, Roberto Luongo, Ryan Miller, Pekka Rinne and Henrik Lundqvist are still contributing at a high level at 35 or older. Putting Strome and Campbell on this list is premature.
Whaaaat?! You don't like an almost monotoned, hyper paced , mumbley voice that also sounds like he's got a cold... ya know when ya got too much mucus snot running down ur throat you make nasally, clicky sounds?. Ya he sucks
the fact that a lot of these is from the Coyotes just says something about their NHL system. Take Gormley and Strome for example. In their juniors they were really good, and in their AHL affiliates, they were also really good, but both failed in the NHL system. Strome a little different because now that he was traded, he's actually putting up points. Arizona's just fucked
@@nstag8r Good thing you're not a GM buddy. Almost a ppg after 48 games. Amazing what putting players of skill with other players of skill can do for confidence and production.
@@nstag8r Imagine that, a 20 year old thrown to the wolves had trouble doing everything by himself. Not like teams don't develop players like this for that exact fucking reason buddy lmfao. You break in young skilled players on a line with somebody that can actually play. Name me a non-franchise player that was told to carry borderline AHL second-line players like Strome was doing in Arizona before they yo-yo'd him back and forth in the AHL. Literally the only thing about Strome that doesn't scream top-6 talent is his foot-speed, which given enough time, you *CAN* improve upon. Calling Strome a bust is short-sighted and stupid. Pretending he doesn't have talent and "needs" talented players to do well is also fucking stupid. Tell me, does Crosby put up better numbers with less or more talented players? What's that you say? More talented players? Then I guess he must work better with talent than without it too. Almost like that's how 100% of fucking athletes work in every sport.
longliverocknroll5 I never said he wasn’t talented or bust, but thanks for putting words into my mouth. He was given every opportunity to develop in Arizona and never reached it there. Arizona wasn’t asking him to save the franchise either, very little pressure on him and tried to slowly bring him up. Just didn’t happen. Keller is doing fine and Garland has done twice as much with less given to him. He’s doing good in Chicago a lot to do with Kane and Debrincat, but he didn’t look good in Arizona and clearly the trade worked out for both teams.
How is Campbell a bust? Didn’t he just take Quick’s job in LA? Last time I checked Campbell had like a 2.15 gaa over 15 games for LA where quick was posting over 3.00 gaa
@@toddbos1484 the team that drafted him wasn't patient enough with him and made a mistake by trading him... Draft Bust is a player that wasn't able to break in on any NHL team not a player that only didn't perform well in his original draft team
To be fair to Jack Campbell, a team's goalie development personnel plays a huge role on whether they turn out good or not. Dallas has not been known to produce or develop good goalies of their own, in contrast the LA Kings organization have excellent goalie coaches. He's already 26 years old but he can still turn it around.
I think some people are confused by what it means to be considered a "draft bust". If the organization who drafts the player does not get the expected return on that player, then it is considered a bust. It doesn't matter how talented a draft pick may truly be if they are unable to produce the results they are expected to for the organization that drafts them. Most of these guys are probably very talented, but for one reason or another things just didn't work out as favorably as they were expected to. Many of the players that are considered to be draft busts will probably go on to have successful careers for other organizations. You just have to look at it from the perspective that the scouts and organizations are to understand the mentality. I mean, just imagine being drafted right alongside McDavid and Eichel.... the expectations placed on you are going to be very tough to match. In hindsight to my comment above, I didn't realize just how few games Strome in particular had actually played with Arizona. So seeing the criticism about him being on this list makes a lot more sense to me now. I think my point is still relevant in general terms, but Strome seems like an Arizona blunder more than anything else. I can see him going really far with the right NHL team.
Or how about the omission of guys like Kris Beach who were drafted the same slot as Campbell and are now in England playing with 0 NHL games experience. The list was lazy.
In 2007, my son and I, both lifelong LA KINGS fans, attended the NHL draft in Columbus Ohio. Kings had the 4th overall pick and we were truly excited. The arena handed out excellent paperwork detailing the top 26 players available for the draft. By the time the Kings selection arrived, we had about 30 fans sitting all around us rooting for us. Then came the announcement, “ With the 4th choice in the 2007 draft the LA Kings select Thomas Hickey.” Suddenly, the whole arena went dead quiet. All those around us turned and stared at us. I blurted out WHO?? Then, in the midst of stunned quiet, one of those around us said, “He’s not even listed in the top 26!!” My son and I both fell back in our seats dejected. It was at least ten minutes before someone broke the silence around us by saying, “sorry......”. The rest is history, just like Hickey’s career.
At least you werent Bruins fans in the draft of 2013. Three first round picks numbers 12, 13 and 14 (or something to that effect) and all we got was Jake Debrusk, some horrible undersized russian forward and at best a bottom pairing D-man that might have played 50 games in the NHL total. And withiin the next couple picks Brock Boesor, Matt Barzal and 2 or 3 great defensemen were taking before the end of the first round. Rumor was we wanted to package the picks to move up for Noah Hanifan. But still to have 3 first round picks and get a half decent 20 goal scorer isnt what we needed. I think the bruins have another cup if they drafted better in 13 or the year they missed out on Logan Couture. Drafting Pastrank at 26 was a great pick though.
Pavel Zacha is definitely making a considerable impact in the Nhl as a black hole. You could put Hall and Mcdavid with Zacha and their total points in a season would be 80 with 2 points coming from Zacha
I had high hopes for mcilrath, I really rooted for the kid and wanted him to be the rangers next derian Hatcher type of player. This youtuber got his part right though, he is a bust
NPAMike the 2 other Staals? There’s Eric, Jordan, Marc, and Jared. All but Jared are good. Jared’s played under 10 NHL games. Marc’s not a bust either. And Eric and Jordan are former all-stars
2008 Draft, Carolina Hurricanes selected Zach Boychuk 14th overall. He only had 30 points over 127 NHL games. The guy selected after him that same year, Erik Karlsson who currently has over 500 points in over 600 games.
Make a risk rewarded listing. Players that got drafted way higher than expected and turned out great. Feels like dumbest thing to do in draft is to reach a lot, you got top10 pick, pick a top 10 NA or European
At the time of this video, Campbell had two seasons where his save % was above .920. Just because it wasn't with the team he was drafted by, it doesn't make him a bust. Hickey played parts of nine seasons with the Isles, played over 450 games, and averaged 18 minutes of ice time per game. Considering the average NHL career is five years and/or 400 games, I would say he was just more average than a bust. Mueller has injury issues, which derailed his career. If you are including those who were injured and became a bust, why not list Angelo Esposito? He was considered to be the #1 pick by many a year prior to his 2007 draft. But by the time 2007 came around, he dropped all of the way down to the Penguins at #20. A year later, his rights were traded to Atlanta. Within a year, he re-tore his ACL. He bounced around the AHL and ECHL over the next two years before bouncing around Europe. Or what about Sasha Pokulok that was drafted by the Caps in 2005, who also had concussion history but never played in the NHL?
I wouldn’t have called Mueller a big flop because that was all on Gretzky and Tippett. He succeeded with Gretzky letting him do whatever he wanted but Tippett came in and said “nope! You’re young and I need vets.” And put him in the scratch list just like Turris. The biggest three draft flops for the Coyotes have been Lucas Lessio, Sammuelsson, and Dylan Strome.
Too bad you didn’t have the 2003 draft on here....my Rangers picked a great one in the first round. Take a look at all those players drafted after the Rangers pick....I still have nightmares
Oh yes, the infamous Hugh Jessiman. Picked 12th overall and played 2 games. The only player in the first round 2003 other than Shaun Bell at 30th, to not play more than 100 games
Feels like to not see Virtanen on one of these lists for once. He’s really turning his game around already at 10 goals this season. If Virty can pick his game up, Strome should have no issue with Chicago
For those going off on how some of these players are too young to be considered busts, this is a list about teams who drafted a player and had little to no production from the pick and eventually got rid of them for something far less valuable than what their original pick was (except for Reinharts case. Barzal definitely would be a top 3 pick)
Boston Bruins vs SJ Sharks in the final??? I'd love to see it.I work with the son of a Sharks fanatic fan they call Captain Half Beard.He colours his beard Sharks colours for the games as well as wears a Sharks logo, all-over print suit!His son and I have a friendly rivalry as he's from Cali. and I'm a Bruins diehard. Would be cool to watch!🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒
@@MrChelis1989 I know man,sorry.Even before game six the Blues fans were saying st.louis is going to sweep the bruins!The Sharks are truly the ONLY team I like in the west....not cool.St.Louis hasn't been in a finals since they were swept by the Bruins in 1970!
Alexander Wiest i watch Gudbranson every day as I'm a nucks fan, and trust me that guy is the biggest pile. But I don't think you could consider him a bust.
As a Stars fan I think we have the worst scouting system in the NHL. Some rare successes like Klingberg and Heiskanen but there have been so. many. busts.
I remember Filatov. Saw his hat trick game and we thought we had a Zherdev replacement. At the time, I recall chatter about head coach Hitchcock mishandling Filatov.
Just imagine if Edmonton wouldve fired Chirelli years ago dude: (coming from a amused flames fan) The oilers first line would be Mcdavid, Hall, and Barzal! Like lmao Chirelli made some of the worst draft decisions and some of the most lopsided trades in NHL history, idk why Edmonton kept him for so long xD
Well, you can't know for sure Edmonton would have picked Barzal with that pick, they tend to fuck up regardless of who is the general manager. Also, pretty sure Hall wanted out and had a bad influence on the locker room, so trading him was probably the right choice, trading him for Adam Larsson was ludacris.
0:45 Why the hell is Luongo at a Panthers practice dressed in Vancouver gear from head to toe? Also, why are those guys' Panthers logos ripped out beside him? Lol
Anyone else think Jonathan Bernier should be on this list? 11th overall by the Kings, only 324 games, 137 wins and now a backup in Detroit. But he has a cup ;)
I'm a Islanders fan, don't think Dal Colle should be on here, and we flipped Reinhart for Barzal as you said, but definitely DP should be on this list. We gave him that absurd contract and he was always injured.
as a fan of the Rangers, I am still pissed over the McIlrath pick, I know what they were trying to do, get a crease clearing defense-man, in the same league as Jeff Beukeboom, but of course, Beukeboom was smart and a good decision maker, McIlrath, was just a wall, with little skill, seems like a good kid, and I wish him well.
Man, if not for concussions and other injuries Mueller looked like he could’ve been a regular 30 goal scorer. Not that it means much but he was always a guy I’d pick up in like NHL 13.
Dylan Strome was only considered a bust because he was drafted third overall. He has been a good NHLer and I would say he is the top 25% of players in the league. The fact is if he was drafted #15, he would not be in this video.
I have a challenger for Yak. Alexandre Daigle. agree with some but the way I see it anyone out of top 5 first round I would rarely call a bust. Some people peak early, some take longer. The only sure thing in a draft should be 1-3, after that they're informed decisions but it's a roll of the dice.
Hayden Fleury drafted 7th overall by Carolina in 2014, has only 9 points in 79 games and has been demoted to the minors. He definitely looks like a bust.
Did you just define the "modern era" of hockey to include seasons since 2005??? That's hilarious. Not all of us are millennials, dude. I define modern hockey with the Gretzky Era, since 1979.
