It's funny. The manufacturer took the trouble to send the LPL an "improved" lock, but didn't bother to test it ahead of time to see if it's improved. How hard would it have been to go to a competent locksmith and say "Please try and pick this lock open." These people just don't seem to believe in testing their products.
Have you considered their goal isn't to make an unpickable lock, its to make a lock the will make people feel secure. the fact is the majority of break ins do not involve picking the lock, they involve destructive methods. why take a minute to pick the lock when you can just break the window. I know for a fact that I would feel safer with an unlocked door and a large dog than I would with the most unpickable lock in the world.
Locksmith is not the same as picker. Some locksmiths do learn to pick, but their job is to service the locks, not open them. Coming to your house with an angle grinder and a drill because you forgot your keys is a side job they do because everyone asks locksmiths as the only thing in the phonebook with "lock" in the name. And a few more customer focused ones learn a small amount of picking skills to be less destructive. What's needed for this is dedicated pickers, and it's cheaper to send cheap locks to reviewers than to hire someone with the right skillset. Even hiring someone at minimum wage to watch LPL videos and try out the things on the videos on their locks would cost around 30k+/yr with all the required expenses outside of direct pay for an employee. They could send out 300 locks for less than that, and every good review is doing double work as advertisement.
One of these days, I wanna see LPL open an electronic lock and show his testing setup including a multimeter, and say, "I wanted to show you my multimeter, so you can see it's not a Fluke."
It appears the wave rake can open the lock faster than putting in the code. The other advantage of the wave rake is that you don’t have to worry about forgetting the code.
"The other advantage of the wave rake is that you don’t have to worry about forgetting the code" - You also don't have to worry about revealing the code to people behind you.
Code of conduct before sending a commercial lock to LPL 1) Ensure it can't be picked with the packaging of the product 2) Ensure it doesn't collapse if you bang it with yellow plastic 3) Ensure it resists a wave rake. well... it's 66% LPL compliant, you can print it in the ad.
Don't forget that when LPL get bored with something, it ends up at McNally driveway chained to a mannequin where he opens it with a construction square.
Thank you LPL, I've been a so called locksmith for a large county facility for years. My first lock picking device was always a drill, but not anymore. I appreciate your channel very much. Coming along with practice.
I think this might be one of the scariest videos of this October. Three sweeps in under one second with the wave rake on the first try and a total of three seconds on the second try - this is one scary lock!
If it was advertised as low security I'd have no problem with it... sometimes you just need to keep people out of a simple storage closet to keep things like soap, paper, office supplies, etc... from being taken, or electronics messed with by someone who "thinks they can fix it". (imagine a small office environment) everyone is already employed and in the building, the lock does not need to be very secure.
Look into the KABA simplex story - it'll blow your mind. Ended up in a court of law and all sorts - what they continued selling after a vulnerability was exposed is crazy.
LPL is excellent at voiceover. He makes sure every single word is enunciated, because he does not need to sound natural. He knows the goal of these videos is not to ACT, but to INSTRUCT. And for that reason, he puts understandability above all others. Fantastic work for the videos' purpose.
I was completely blown away that he was able to recite the number of the previous video while at the same time punching in a numeric code that's slightly different to the number he was saying. There's no way I wouldn't have mixed the numbers up somehow
It takes less time to open with the wave rake than to use the keypad. Maybe the lock manufacturer should include a wave rake along with -- or instead of -- the keys.
In my experience, door locks with a mechanical keypad aren't guarding anything secure anyway... they're on something like an office storeroom or bathroom, and the pin number is almost certainly something which can be described as "the top four buttons", or something that similarly doesn't require remembering the actual number.
Most of these fly by night companies couldn't care less how well the locks work. People buy them regardless. Spending more on design work just eats into profits and could add to manufacturing costs.
I worked for Sargent Lock for 12 years in the electronic locks division. The mechanical lock division suffered heavily from NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome.
@@--_DJ_-- NIH means that unless it's designed in-house, they're not interested in input from external sources. The marketing team is who drives the product specifications. Engineering attempts to build what they specified, with compromises made in quality vs cost.
I see the main problem with mechanical dead bolts is the fact, that the order in which the numbers are depressed isn't important. Hence a set of fingerprints on the lock gives away the combination easily. This is even worse with a shiny surface like this dead bolt has. There are two ways to tackle this issue. You could clean the surface every time after using it, or you could make sure there are fingerprints all over it by randomly tapping through all the digits regularly.
I've heard it said that "locks are just there to keep honest people honest". Your videos prove than in most cases, if someone really wants to get into a lock destructively or non-destructively they will.
I have a Schlage push button locking latch on my front door. I was concerned that the keyed portion of the lock was the weakest link, so I rekeyed it using security pins and different spring tension springs to make it more resistant to raking and bumping as well as picking. I also installed a Mul-T-Lock Cronus Interactive+ deadbolt that's almost always locked, and beefed up the hinges and striker plate.
Well, if the manufacturer realizes that they need to step their game up and sent you the lock... I guess they're trying, but they don't know how. I like how you gave them that credit. But they can ASK you or watch any of your videos and you freely tell them how to add security pins and how other manufactures make their locks more secure. Of course I wouldn't purchase their locks, but if they fix these horrible issues and make it better, then send it in to you for a review... I cannot imagine no higher praise than an endorsement from the LPL ! I hope the Manufacture also reads these comments and steps up to the challenge.
Because the manufacturer sent LPL this lock it reminded me of another youtube channel, 'Just Rolled In', where the motor mechanic ends lots of stories with the words, 'The customer refused all repairs.' 🙂
You should do one on the electronic Schlage BE365. The code itself only allows 3 attempts before disabling for 5 minutes, but I'm curious how [not] solid their core is.
These companies make themselves look bigger and safer of what they actually are. A more accurate metaphor would be challeging Mike Tyson to beat their marketing team. Lol
So... With 2 months watching LPL and Bosnian Bill's videos and a couple hundreds in Covert Instrument tools I can basically become a GOD like quality tester in any of these lock manufacturers. Prove me wrong.
It seems to me after watching all your videos that the key lock is always the weak spot. I put super glue on my key insert it in my lock 3 or 4 times and let it dry. I never use a key anyway. I think that would make any combination/key lock more secure. If I need to use a key I break into my garage, get my carb cleaner and spray it into the key slot, and wiggle the key in until it unlocks. 😂
LOVE IT. That you show these combo, locks that have KEYS, and use the Key way to open them. Just to show,,, WHY are you putting a KEY WAY, on a combination LOCK.
It's amazing that they go through the whole process of making new locks and then put the same old cheap cores in them. Was that a kwikset or schlage keyway? lol....
We had mechanical keypad lock once on a door of an apartement building. After some time the correct combination keys get dirty so you don't need to know the code even, just press all the buttons that obviously were pressed time and time again
Funny thing about that type of locks do you even don't need to decode it once it have a bit of use. The only clean and shiny buttons is your combination. I also decoded similar but cheaper locks on a front door of an apartment building in Russia in early 00 simply by sound. The correct buttons made a dull sound when tapped with a finger while the inkorrect ones ringing slightly.
It seems that a lot of people misunderstand how this works. The company wasn't so proud of this improved lock that they send it to LPL. This company works with a marketing company and said company sand it to anyone who has given number of subscribers and content featuring locks, security, or anything like that.
What's the longest time it's taken you to pick a commercial lock, and what brand/model was it? Ever thought of doing reviews of the most secure locks by type (doorknob, dead bolt, padlock, etc)?
Could you improve this lock? What would you do to make this lock serviceable? Anything that can be opened with a rake is not a real lock. It only suggests privacy because it only keeps out the people that wouldn't pick your locks. What could the average person do to change this lock? Could an old core from a worn out better lock work?
Would swapping out the pins with Assa pins or something make the lock worth buying? Cuz I've been wanting a combination lock that was entirely mechanical with no need for a battery and this is the first one I've seen so far that looks like everything I need.
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