I watched a video explaining it, its got a whole lot more requirements for scoring compared to fencing, and attacks can occur so quick is part of the reason we see them closing and locking gauntlets. It makes for a solid defense for both and requires a lot more work to attack.
In Kendo, you score a point when you hit the right part of the blade, in a coordinated manor, aligned with your bodies momentum and while yelling out the intended target.
For anyone that's having trouble following, I wrote down some highlights along with some commentary for people that aren't too familiar with kendo: Japanese are the one with blue clothing and a red ribbon on their backs, Koreans are the ones with white clothing and white ribbons. Whenever at least two judges lift their flags for one competitor that's a point. There are five matches. If one side wins more matches they win; if there's a tie in wins then the total number of points decides the winner. If the teams are matched both in matches won and in point total, there's an extra match. first match starts at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="62">1:02</a> at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="120">2:00</a> you can see the Korean score the first point for Korea with a successful men strike (strike to the head) at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="178">2:58</a> the Japanese ties up again with a really beautiful men strike at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="443">7:23</a> the time runs out leaving the first match at a <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="61">1:1</a> draw <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="455">7:35</a> second match starts at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="605">10:05</a> something of a fury of strikes in which the Japanese guy scores kote (a strike to the wrist). It can be seen more clearly in slow motion at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="634">10:34</a>. It comes at seemingly the same time as the Korean's attack the head, although looking at the slow motion it seems to me the Korean guy's strike to the head came one frame earlier. Two explanations here: one is that the Korean guy's strike wasn't good enough for some reason, another is that the judges were wrong. As they don't get slow motion videos they can occasionally be wrong, but their authority on this is absolute and there are no appeals. They ended up ruling in favor of the Japanese guy so his point stands. At <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="672">11:12</a> the Japanese guy gets something of a strike to the wrist that one judge thinks should count but the other two disagree, so no points for it. Lots of booing from the crowd though. At <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="815">13:35</a> the second match ends, the Japanese now lead by one match and one total point. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="840">14:00</a> third match starts <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="885">14:45</a> a pretty straight forward men strike for the Japanese <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="984">16:24</a> the Korean guy asks the judges to stop the game, I think something's wrong with his shinai, though I can't quite tell what. At any rate, it's not a big enough issue to have the whole blade replaced. Maybe he just suspected a fracture of it, but it turned out there wasn't one. At any rate I get the sense that the Japanese guy is mostly stalling for the rest of the match. I can hear the audience shouting "Hansouku" - meaning a "foul". Stalling, especially when it's obvious can indeed result in a hansouku, and if you get two hansoukus in one match that's a point for the opponent. The judges don't seem to feel he's quite crossed the line though. At <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1215">20:15</a> the match ends. Japan now leads by two matches and by two points. That means that Korea is now in the unenviable position, where they need to win both remaining matches to have a chance. From here on, even a tied match means a victory in total for the Japanese. At <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1231">20:31</a> the 4th match starts Note that Hideisha Nishimura is playing this one for japan: he's the winner of the 2015, 2017 and 2018 All Japan kendo championships. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1319">21:59</a> the japanese scores a men strike. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1360">22:40</a> The Japanese goes for the wrist, but misses and the Korean retaliates with a successful men strike. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1435">23:55</a> Korean scores the second successful men strike With that the match ends <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="121">2:1</a> for Korea. The total result is still has Japan leading by one match and one point. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1474">24:34</a> is the start of the 5th match There's S. Ando the 2018 world champion in individual matches playing for japan. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1835">30:35</a> the Japanese gets a men strike <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1875">31:15</a> the Korean gets a men strike. Interestingly, before seeing the results the Japanese tries a tsuki (a stab to the throat), something you don't see that often. But it's too late as Korean already got a point. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1930">32:10</a> the Korean gets pushed out of the field and gets a Hansouku for it. At around <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2050">34:10</a> there's some kind of pushing around, that results in the Japanese guy getting a Hansouku, not entirely sure what for exactly. It seems Korean's legs got a bit of an injury from it as he limps somewhat afterwards. There's a break during which he has bandages on his foot replaced. and then at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2220">37:00</a> the time runs out and the match ends with <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="61">1:1</a> Had the Korean managed to get one more point, the teams would be tied both in matches and in points so there'd be an extra match. But as he didn't that left the Japanese victorious by one match. If you see I made any mistakes, please comment them and I'll make sure to edit this comment.
@@cooldudeworld4621 I've had 3 weekly trainings for close to a year now and I attended two different tournaments. I'm quite far from being a master at this point, but I can put up a fight and I do understand the rules.
@@jhk8396 As a Chinese American with multiple family members killed brutally by Japanese soldiers during the second sino Japanese war I can say the same
Hema is similar in that it can sometimes take the combatants several seconds to do anything. Even though they have a longsword with extra length and a cross guard that if held properly, will cover you as you attack. Also... the second match in the video is lit! But some of the others were a little Obi-Vader esque.
LJ Masikip - Heck Yeah, bro. It's all in good fightin' entertainment. I've always tried to not sit too idly in matches where I'm at because I believe you should take the initiative. Both with Kendo and Hema Classes. I never wanted to be like EP 4 fight. haha
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="220">3:40</a> i love the sportsmanship from the japanese practitioner. seeing him check on his opponent made my heart happy.
Quick summary of what kendo is about. It's the Japanese equivalent of western fencing and nominally based on classical Japanese kenjutsu. To win in Kendo, you can only strike 3 parts. The head, wrist and body. And 1 thrust which is the throat. Anything else is not considered as a point. And you have to deliver the strike in a proper form with a kiai shout and showing what is known as zanshin at the end of the strike. Otherwise, the judges would not acknowledge the strike. So obviously, modern Kendo isn't a life or death match but a combat sport where it's meant to develop the practitioner's physical and mental capabilities as well as his or her character. I practiced Kendo for 8 years so I know a little bit about the subject :)
Hey, quick question, since i'm writing a story with a kendo practitioner in it Is 3rd dan really an advanced level for a student, or is it considered a "casual"?
Talking smack. Japan: "Your mother smells like kimchi." Korea: "Your sister tastes like kimchi." Then they start screaming at each other - this we can hear in the vid.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="515">8:35</a> that was simply awesome. The split second they widened their distance, the japanese went straight for the head in a light-speed attack, but the korean block came even before he moved his arm. All in a blink of an eye. What a defense!
Korean fencers often fall over and often rest due to malfunctioning protective gear. Korean kendoka seem to boo, but they do not know that booing is inappropriate in the martial arts. It seems that Korean and Japanese kendo have different philosophies.
What I recall from my days as a Kendoist... the Japan-Korea match is typically intense. This is very physical Kendo, with a great deal of national pride riding on the outcome. Wearing white, by the Koreans, was considered impolite and improper by the Japanese, when I studied in a Japanese Dojo. At that time, white was reserved for a special group or Dojo associated with the Emperor. Several times, one of the Japanese strikes a Korean when they are down. That’s not kosher, nor is it common for a Kendoist to fall in a contest. These contests seem unusually intense. My info might be outdated, since I have not been active for years. But, I have noted what I knew. Also, you always strive for the first point, because with actual katanas, that would have been the decisive strike.
Firstly Koreans don’t give a shit to Japanese emperor since they believe He is not only a someone else’s King but the symbol of the Japanese imperialism which still continues and idiotize Japanese ppl. It’s same as how George Bush behaved before the queen or why Iranian basketballers don’t have to salute stars and stripes. Secondly in Asia, practicing martial arts is so common as doing daily sports like playing football in US, so they don’t apply much of meaning into it, or they are not that serious and worshiping it’s origin as westerner martial artists do.
@@orionchevalier7398 Not that I disregard the fine sprit of martial arts, however it is true that westerner martial artists sound and look pretty nurdy if they were too deeply into it, as if an Asian British long sword trainee worships the king Arthur , Richard or Vikings. Especially since both Japanese Samurai sprits and European Knight’s chivalry were forged history and fantasy. They were just brutal thugs with sword who did not even know how to read and write.
@@biokido575 im not saying its not brutal, but hitting when down is a way to score points i believe, two fighters can in be fighting eachother and still have respect, as contradictory as it sounds
It really seemed like he actually cared if his opponent had hurt himself falling... both because that's human, and probably the Japanese sense of honor/disappointment at not being able to finish the fight properly possibly. I'd be really upset if I "won" because my opponent slipped and hit his knee on the floor. That's not a victory for me as a martial artist in this context. It's a victory if it were a fight for my life, sure. I'd take that and be HAPPY, but not when it's for honor, points, and competition. You have to win the hard way for that to count then, you know? Anyhow, that moment stood out for me too.
@@kumaaa6379 if boxer moves like that, they get knocked out. Their footworks are more of a straight line style. Boxer need lateral movement, pivot, shifting angle,.. look at Ali, Loma, and Iron Mike. Check out what happened when Ricky Hatton strike in straightline against Floyd Mayweather. He gets knocked out cold!
As someone who do practice Kendo, I would say that space matters a lot that's why controlling the center is very important, you can disrupt your opponent's shinai strike if you move too close if your ideal range is shorter or moving out so you get out of the opponent's range if your range is longer
Witness how kind and gracious and humane the Japanese kendoist is when the Korean Kendoist fell! He set an example for all competitors and for the public:
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1086">18:06</a> Reminds me of Shadow of War, when the Orc gets super close and starts roasting you in the middle of combat
Adding some interesting about the positions of the competitors within each match : - 1st match is between those 2 called "Senpou", can be understood as "First Elite" - 2nd is between "Jihou"s, can be understood as "Next Elite" - 3rd is between "Chuuken", can be understood as "Center Fielder", this is an important position and I think the Korean's one did his job really well, he's just the better in this match. - 4th is between "Fukushou", can be understood as "Vice-General", or just more simple "Second in Command" (personally, I don't think this guy really does command, mostly it's just a way to call the team-members positions/ roles) - 5th and also the final match is between those called "Taisho", can be understood as "General" or "Team Captain".
That’s actually the original version of Kendo before they changed it for ease of the masses as with many other sports. That’s why crossing of the blades is such a big thing, it’s a left over from when that would mean someone is going to start grabbing.
there’s a video of a HEMA fighter crossing swords in a sword match, only to discard his weapon and absolutely throw his opponent to the ground ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tOgSOXSjthE.htmlsi=2FuoNavPOpKZApjt
@@drewhammond5203 To be fair, a kiai can be a huge amount of vocals. If it’s a shout, it’s a kiai so people tend to have rather personalized shouts they have. That guy’s kiai is definitely one of the funnier.
personally this really bothers me about Kendo as well. They literally are sitting there pressing their blades to eachothers necks - trying to read eachother who will retract and go for a strike. all valid strikes are essentially power cuts only is what it boils down to. I hate how often they get into these grapple range binds. but is very interesting to wach who will get 'ippon' (conceptually just a solid winning blow).
@@rms1034 It would make sense kind of if they were simulating duels in full armour. Because a draw cut would do nothing against armour. But then direct men cuts tot he top of the head would also not count, because a sword wouldn't do anything to the top of the kabuto. So it irks me in that regard as well.
I'm not sure if he actually got him directly on the back of the head. It looks like he attempted to hit the top of the headpiece and it glanced upwards towards the edge when the korean athlete moved back a bit. You typically get a couple seconds to get a hit off when someone falls, but that hit was pretty late.
(wap) that's my favorite part of this video, once someone falls, the guy takes a second to try to waddle up to the fallen guy like a carb only to give him a quick but light wap on the top of the head with a stupid stick
Until you take part in this you don't understand how frustrating it is, and as a flipside to that, how rewarding when you make progress. You will train against people who are faster and stronger than you are, and more comfortable with the sword again and again, and you will be beaten over and over until you yourself become better... And faster. You'll lose your temper some times and be elated when you make progress. But it's a great thing and glad that I took it up. You learn a lot, and there are many meditative practices and theory that you can apply to other aspects of your life. HK ❤️
@@beans4269 Where do you think you come from ? You obviously know 0 about kendo. It is budo and its purpose is to train hard and develop as a human being through hard training. However it is always required in kendo to test your skills in an environment that fights against you. Meaning trying to beat someone who wants to beat you. Its as much of a fight as one can expect.
Well anime uses key factors to enhance the excitement, such as focusing on the movements from different angles, using music, different forms of atmosphere and it shows the thoughts or expressions of the characters. Of course anime would be more exciting because its modified to be slightly unrealistic compared to real life situations.
Korean players pull their chin and move forward like a boxer, but that posture should never be done. It's embarrassing to be out of breath and slump during a kendo match like Korean players. Korean players' kendo is a different martial art from the one I had learned. Kendo should never be ugly.
I mean you should learn a better martial art cuz this ain't gonna help you in self defense I learn taekwondo which I think is more effective but you can learn whatever you want
우리 선수들이 일본 선수들 보다 중단이 쉽게 무너지는 것 같다. 우리 선수들 몸집을 보면 상체가 하체 보다 더 발달된 것 같은데... 검도는 하체가 빠르고 튼실해야 상체를 잘 받쳐서 자세도 안정되고 유효타를 내기도 쉬운 거... 모든 무술은 footwork가 절반 이상을 먹고 들어간다.
matches are faught 1 on 1. it takes 2 points to win a match. points are only earned with powerful controled strikes to specific targets (head, torso, gloves and throat thrust). no weak or sliding touches are counted. this is called 'ippon' so the hit must be solid - connect and with a simultaneous yell or 'kiai' along with follow up stability and alertness 'zanshin'. That is why it hard to score even a single point - you need it to be 'ippon'.
@@rms1034 ty for explaining because that first fight had me like I thought there would be. More swinging
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any real sword would cut whether you lightly touch or slice. Tendons and blood vessel would be cut. You don't need "IPPON" anything unless you want to make a hit dramatic.
My eldest dog likes watching this video She likes seeing fights (animal on animal fighting and human on human fighting) I like playing it for her while I work She's 14 years old, I don't know how much time my doggie has left but I will always cherish these moments were she just wags her tail laying on the carpet as she look on at the fights, occasionally barking at very intense moments
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="987">16:27</a> is my favorite part. I love the respect and dedication to discipline and the sport rather then winning. Attention to detail and form is held in highest regard despite one’s opponent is winning or loosing.
I know how to fight kendo Kendo is my favorite But I have a dream that i can fight kendo ⚔️ But i am from INDIA🇮🇳 shillong In our country I all else never see who can play kendo Only me who wants to play kendo 🗡
Might seem silly to some but I really like the aspect that only "decisive" strikes (mind, body and sword) count. I do judo and it's a little comparable to how judo would be if only Ippon would count
I wouldn’t worry too much. It’s still very tame compared to other sports. And it helps encourage excitement for the sport to the general audience and as long as the actual players keep up the rules of respect, I think it’s fine.
Personally I think all martial arts could take a note from Kendo in the nature of how it encourages the user to be respectful to their opponent and keep the showboating down to a near nonexistent amount.
People who play Kendo must be careful not to wear a hakama like Korean Taisho. He slipped and fell many times with his own problem because of poor wearing of hakama. It was too long. It is a matter that should be learned as a basis of Kendo before a game.
it looks like they're having a chat half way whilst oooh aahing to make it seem like they are fighting and then once in a while decide that they need to try a bit harder to entertain the audience, so they take a thwack at the other.
They are like the savage parts of grizzly bears and gorillas combined, with a little pissed off cornered housecat mixed in for good measure. That is a compliment just for the record.
for people in comments, kendo isn’t a historical reenactment so you don’t win by “killing” the opponent and it has its own style that was used for training ages ago. there is kenjutsu and iaido, if you want something else related to asian sword fighting, watch those, i just don’t see the point in getting annoyed that one thing isn’t like another thing when it isn’t supposed to be like that other thing. also, normally they’re not always right next to each over and there are some really cool matches you can find if you didn’t like this one.
El objetivo es golpear con la punta el casco del oponente, cuando levanta la bandera de 1 lado es punto de el (en la repetición se observa como golpean en el punto), la razón de que es metálico es porque al golpearlo con la punta suena algo característico... Cuando las 2 se levantan es que es para ninguno, osea, una separación, cuando se apunta abajo (como vimos lo del koreano) es falta
