played the 37 and 43 190's. Reminded me of the best examples of Mt. Vernons that I played, EXCEPT they play with Yamaha ease of play but that unmistakable Bach sound is there. Best Bach Bb's in the last 50 + years overall IMHO. I'm honored that my custom Bach Bb was the first Strad with the two piece valve case and had many of the features that the NY's and Mt. Vernons had that the Artisans, Mariachi's, Commercial and Anniversary horns have. Thanks Tedd Waggoner for making the dream come true. Just suggesting that those non Bach players out that that loved Bach's sound but didn't like fighting the horn or going on an endless safari to find a "good one". Look no further, these are destined to capture more market share. Jeff, you sound great, and thank both you and Tedd for fabricating my horn.
Gorgeous playing Jeff and you truly made a difference during your tenure at Bach/Conn/Selmer. Bravo for all your hard work and know that you are missed.
I have a 43* from the late 60s. I believe it’s a LT model. The balusters are copper looking underneath the plating. Bottom portion is typical brass. I find it quite unique, and was wondering if typical for LT horns of that time. I only see the nickel tops from horns of that time period.
About this time I called Conn Selmer and asked them about going back into the vault and blueprinting some of the old horns they had cards on. Someone from marketing called me asking me why I asked about the horn blueprinting. I think he thought I was told something about a top secret project. they in the process of doing with the Artisan Series. I was just frustrated I could not find a Bach C trumpet that played well and in tune. Like the Yamaha trumpets I was playing. it made me upset because I wanted the Bach trumpets to play better than the Yamaha Chicago Copy. Because I just wanted a matched set of horns from Bach.
Aaron Hanson I currently own a 180, and can say for a fact that it would do very well in the same fields. The 190, however I would recommend instead due to the better valve responsiveness. I currently play both jazz and classical music, and can say that the 180 tends to act as a jack of all trades in which it seems to preform well in all manners of playing that I’ve used it in. Those being Jazz, Classical, Soloing, Pep band, orchestral, concert band/wind ensemble, and live band accompaniment. If you’re looking to purchase one or the other, I would check the prices you’re looking for, test them both, and see which suits you best. Hope this helped, and have a nice day!
Bit confused here. My Elkhart 37, S/N 71135 appears to have the two piece valve set because the balusters are Nickel. Or is it just Nickel plating, making it appear to be two piece? Not that it matters. We've been together since around '73 or '74. Just curious.
There is an error in the video, where it's stated that one-piece valve construction started in the late 60's, it was actually started in the late 70's / early 80's. So yes, if your trumpet is from 73 or 74 it would be a two-piece valve constructed horn. Hope that explains it for you!
The brass industry is just as hilarious with its little meaningless jargon as kayak manufacturers are with their hydrology jargon. You put a one piece valve block and a two piece in an acoustic lab and the difference will be undetectable by the human ear. You put them in multiple double blind surveys and the results will be statistically insignificant. Just say one is brass and one is brass with nickel trim.
