What a great actress, she brought Elsa to life and made her real. I can't believe she was killed off. She would have made a great spinoff and a great storyline. ❤😊
I loved her character as well, but in a sense I agree with the way it ended, as where she died served as the focal point for what would become the Yellowstone-Dutton land empire, which makes her death more fitting.
That scene Elsa played Moonlight Sonata on the abandoned piano after the deadly river crossing was hauntingly beautiful, best part of a great series IMO
My grandfather was just 20 in 1883, watching what they went through makes me glad im living now! When i was a kid, my dad said he could remember when HE was young, and sometimes the Natives would kill a deer, for meat, and trade it for things they needed or wanted, like blankets, other food, metal things. This was in northern Wisconsin around 1910 or so!
Really ?! How interesting since I’m from Green Bay and love hearing what the real history is or was like ! As Columbus Day approaches I love telling people how the sob really was …
Really? You have so little going on that you have THAT reaction? My son got in trouble when we moved from Montana to Connecticut because he mentioned that the capital was HEll lina instead of hell eena and we just laughed. How do you pronounce Berlin PA? Should I be pissed?
The Ft. Worth Stockyards no longer looks like the pictures you see here. The whole historic area has now been Californicated and has been totally ruined. I was part of the last generation who grew up in the 50's and 60's that knew the stockyards for what they originally were. I feel fortunate to have been a part of that. I am also sickened by what this area has become.
Im a Dallas Native and I agree - the whole country is being gentrified to the point that our history is fading away and every place will look the same. Although I thought the white elephant still holds true.
So any place that does not LOOK the same now as i looked in the 1950s is Californicated ? Paris is not the same now as it was in the 1950s, Ooh yea it was Californicated.... Miami is not the same as it was in the 1950s, ooh yea it was Californicated. Lol,
This whole area is on the National Historic Register. It is not suppose to be changed. But, the city of Ft. Worth really doesn't care about its history, all they care about is greenback dollars. You can no longer park on the public streets. You are required to pay $20 to park on a lot where they tore down the historic buildings. You can't pay with cash and you can't pay with a credit card. You have to pay with your phone. The buildings have been gutted and stores selling britches with rhinestones on them and $5000 a pair western boots made in Italy . MEN wouldn't be caught dead wearing either one. They tore down some more of the historic areas to make room for $500 a night hotels and they are holding a piece of ground open so when they can get the gambling laws changed and they will as Texas continues to fall, to build a casino. I could go on but you get the picture. All of this courtesy of a CALIFORNIAN real estate management company. @@user-su3kn6uh5c
1883 is my absolute favorite of all the Yellowstone series. 1923 the worst and Yellowstone itself second. I just felt that 1883 portrayed that era so well. I have so much respect the the folks that traveled west like that. Elsa was such a strong character and such a shame she died. This series could have gone on and have been more popular than Yellowstone!
Yes...she made me think of my great grandmother who traveled west to California for the gold rush but was never heard from again. No one knows what happened to her.
@craftysue519 I completely agree with you. 1883 was amazing, and I was completely hooked. I binged watched it in 3 days. Elsa was amazing. She was strong, smart, and she learned quick on her feet. It didn't matter what they taught her. I haven't even watched Yellowstone yet. I was devastated when they killed her.
I was never a big Western fan until this series. The History, Love, Family, Exploration, Determination and Loss. The most amazing American Western Series ever made!
I'm here to tell you that a cowboy hat that doesn't fit properly is a miserable experience, I was gifted a hat for helping with wardrobe on a film and while it was a lovely thing made by Texas Hatters (which was one of the premier makers of western hats ) the damn thing never fit. To this day I remember how uncomfortable it was because I had to keep jamming it down so it wouldn't blow off which abraded my forehead I had a constant headache., so I can totally understand the impression that ill-fitting hat made on Sam Elliot.
@@agenticmark I've had both felt and straw hats that fit quite well after initial breaking in, bu this was straw and a gift from the film's wardrobe dept as a token of appreciation for my help and it would have been churlish to not wear it with a rather forced smile on that day. This is what he was up against also as his hat was supplied by the show's wardrobe dept and it was ill fitting and uncomfortable; however they were going for a "look" not his comfort and they have a rather generic size in their stock and aren't really geared to have several sizes like a haberdashery.
I was just out in Montana, visited Bozeman, Big Sky, Yellowstone, and Pleasant Valley (Livingston). While there we started "1883," and it brought the area to life.
I’m a die hard Sam Elliott fan. If he complains about something, then it’s disrespectful to ignore him. He is one of the best actors of all time. I like Tom Hanks, he is good, but the timeline is so screwed up that his character isn’t believable. Tim and Faith are awesome actors and they are country music legends. I didn’t like Yellowstone or 1883. Even great actors can’t save a movie or series from bad writing. Sam is the only reason I even looked at the damn thing.
They really need to think about 2 hr episodes bc the story seems TO PROGRESS slower than real life, and ain't nobody going anywhere We all watch an episode 3 times to get some satisfaction TELL THE SPONSORS
I have a hard time believing that Sam was the one in the wrong, he has a reputation of being very easy to work with! However the person complaining is a typical whiner of their generation! I look at the quality of the people involved and for that I’ll side with Sam!
1883 needs to continue with Elsa and Sam, and the others who survived showing where they chose to live and how they have adapted to their new discovered land.It’s a very touching yet very emotional movie but it’s not fair that Elsa and Sam didn’t have the opportunity to have a family and share with her family their love and honor 🙏❤️❤️🥲
"Appo-muh-Tox"- REALLY, Really?? Try "Appo-mattics".. Good historical references here, but get your pronunciations correct, Especially for such an important historical place! Also- "Bee-toven"??? REALLY, REALLY- Everyone I've ever heard pronounce his Iconic name correctly. Other than your mis-pronunciations- good info
I just finished the whole show yesterday... So sad it is over and ended that way! I had to search for youtube vids about it because I was not ready to let it go. So glad I found you all on the comment section- so many feel the same ❤
😆😆😆 I find it both ridiculous and hilarious that people get offended to the point of boycotting a show that only had 1 season, and that they had already watched, just because the story's characters get killed off. Because gods forbid that fiction might reflect real life. 😜 I'm sure glad there weren't so many bruised testicles around when Ol' Yeller or To Kill A Mockingbird were filmed. 😏
I had the good fortune of speaking to Sam Elliott at a market of all places. Now I don’t bother actors and I have seen many over the years by chance. I am not in the business. But I did here with Elliott because I had seen him two yrs in a row. The year before in Carmel and here in Thousand Oaks, Ca. I told him all this and he was very receptive and put out his hand to shake surprising me. Before Covid. I laughed and shook his hand. Amusing moment. As I said he was very receptive and friendly.
I would of loved to have seen another season or more of 1883 it was fantastic & i was sad Elsa Yellow Lightning Hair died at the end . I love the Native American Indians an wish there was a spin off about them or a good new series about what they went though as well
I said the same thing about the hat lmao it was to small!! 😅 the only reason why i watch the show is because of Elliot. Now let’s talk about Tom hanks as Mead who was know as the old snapping turtle because he was short tempered. I think hank was Grant and not Mead. Grant lived his whole life with “ Humility and Integrity.” He was good and generous to his enemies and magnanimous in victory.
I never noticed about Sam Elliott's hat, but of course he could feel whether it fit right. Sam Elliott was the only reason I gave 1883 a try, since I've never watched Yellowstone and wasn't familiar with anyone else in the cast, but I must say the whole cast impressed me very well. Great series!
Always think of how much history we lose when the oldies die, my grand dad born 1880 was a guy I knew in the 60’s, lived a tough life, prof boxer for a awhile and a logger businessman for most. Wanted to start over when he was 86 yrs old in new venture, banker said no way, got really drunk that night died next day in his favourite chair.
I agree with Sam Elliott, the only reason I watched any of Yellowstone was because of 1883. But I stopped watching it after several episodes because it seem too much like Dallas to me also.
I watched 2 episodes of Yellowstone and packed it in. I am 65, come from a long time Western family in the Cypress Hills of southwestern Saskatchewan and have literally no interest in watching gangsters and criminals on the Great Plains. My great grandfather came west in 1875 and these sorts of people are not the sorts I have ever been around. Sure they exist, but I don't find them to be at all common like you would find them in the highly fictional Yellowstone. No thanks. Period.
@ToddSauve. I agree with you about the series Yellowstone. I lived in Montana for 25 years and knew many people in all walks of life including ranchers, cowboys,law enforcement officers ,etc. I found a lot in Yellowstone to be inauthentic.
@@jimtruscott5670 Ranchers and farmers are, in my personal experience, much more family and church oriented people, interested in providing for their families and helping their neighbours when they need it. There are cattle rustlers and ne'er do wells around but they are a very tiny minority and they know they are in for a world of trouble if they ever get caught because they are likely to catch such a beating they will completely vacate the entire area, until they finally end up in prison for some very long stretch. I just have no use for this "Yellowstone" series. 🤨
@@jimtruscott5670 In fact, there is so much hard work that has to be done daily on your average ranch or farm in the West that anyone who spent so much time plotting crimes and their next nefarious endeavour would quickly just go broke, dry up and blow away. This is all pure Hollywood nonsense.
I don't have a ranching background, but I just couldn't get into "Yellowstone" for all the reasons mentioned here. Too over-the-top in most ways, and the modern-day Duttons seem too much like gangsters. It's a pity, because I do like some of the cast members (Gil Birmingham, for one). I wouldn't have watched "1883" had Sam Elliott not been one of the leads. I've been a fan of his for 50 years, so I gave "1883" a try and was rewarded. I'm still not interested in "Yellowstone." Watched "1923" once, but am ambivalent.
More SAM and ELSA, Sam Elliot used to be my groups favorite. We did like the opening with him. I am part Indian and like how you kept it real. Thank you!
Small correction, Meade did not remain the commander of the Union army for the remainder of the war. Due to his overly cautious leadership, he was replaced by US Grant in 1864.
Interesting time line, or maybe I missed something. Elsa's birthdate is April 9, 1865, the day the Civil War ended. Fair enough, but Elsa's father, James Dutton was a prisoner of war, I assume from the battle of Gettysburg since we have General Meade sitting talking to James, a Confederate soldier from Tennessee, after the battle. This would be July of 1863. A little less than two years before Elsa was born. Was Mrs. Dutton fooling around?
Of course Mrs Dutton was messing around. Elsa doesn’t look anything like her dad. Neither parent had blond hair, so either she was foolin around or she was adopted.
@@artemisia2002us In at least one of the episodes it was stated he was a prisoner for 3 years. I believe it was Gettysburg because Tom Hanks was playing General George Meade not General Ulysses S. Grant.. Shiloh would be a good assumption since it's in Tennessee. I drive by it several times a year. If you read the casting you will find Tom Hanks as General Meade.
It really bothers me that in the opening sequence, it shows Elsa being mortally wounded by an arrow. If that's true, what a crappy spoiler. We all love Elsa! If there is a sequel without her, look somewhere else for viewers! cause you really screwed this one up!
Well…in Yellowstone (present day) they showed a flashback in one episode with Tim McGraw’s character and 2 sons and Faith Hill. No Elsa. Soooo, made you already think what happens to her??
lol, riding isnt just about the saddle. riding is a combination of how you hold yourself on a horse and the saddle. You can sit in a western saddle and still ride english. I dont recommend it. I grew up breaking horses, but the girls I dated were usually english types.@@Bronco-1776
Sam Elliott made his statement about the hat not fitting properly! An Sheridan says he’ll take care of the problem!! But he doesn’t!! Sam has been a great and magnificent actor a lot longer than Sheridan has been around. He’s needs to show respect to the actors and what they need to wear in movie! I don’t think Elliott was being disrespectful on his comment about how things was going
I'm with Sam. Anyone who's spent time in Montana (I got 20 years) knows it's over the top. Paradise Valley isn't that big and the last place to put an airport, city, and casino. Might work between Livingston and Billings. They make it a 5 minute ride from Helena to Bozeman.
It was a show I looked forward to ,I liked the history of how Yellowstone started. It sure beats anything else on tv. I would have had my dish cut off by now if it wasn't for these shows. Football has become woke and political, nascar has been ruined by point systems, different rules for different drivers and the new generation car that well,sucks! So the entertainment is just about done. I'm tired of watching reruns of older shows, I know them by heart. So when Yellowstone is all over I can save some money and read books and listen to music.
When Elsa died, I felt like I had actually lost a loved one. This was more devastatingly sad than Dr Chivago or The English Patient, this was just miserable! Please, we need to see Elsa and Sam live a full life.
Sam Elliott is an Icon and a national treasure in my opinion. His voice can stand by itself alone....just like James Earl Jones's and Morgan Freeman's.
Details, details....Especially the ones so many TV and movie Westerns are lacking in....."1883" was not the worst by any means....But it was in the running. By the way, I assume you are aware that Mr. Elliot was in the movie "Gettysburg".
At Ama’pa’tox give me a break Appomattox courthouse it started in Wilmer McLean House First battle of bull run and ended at his house in Appomattox, Virginia
They already have a series like this on INSP. Covering all of the famous lawmen/gunmen of the time. This is just something else for Sheridan not to finish. He's not that good of a story teller.
I watched several seasons of _Yellowstone_ but stopped for just the reason Sam Elliott said - it was to much like a Soap Opera. Here's the deal They have deadly enemies - who become their allies They have life long friends - who become their enemies I'm just so sick of that shit - I didn't watch 1883 itself - I just watched a RU-vid Summary. Since the killed Elsa - I'm glad I didn't watch.
I liked the series OK but it was not great and I think it finished fine. If I had been Sam Elliott, I would have gone to the costumer on set and demanded a hat that fit before I filmed one frame.
Your explanation of Elsa's birthdate means she wasn't Duttons Kid. He was a POW after the Battle of Antietam. No way she could be born April 1865 unless Momma Dutton was whoring around.
Why are 1883 and 1923 so much better than Yellowstone? Yellowstone is just to much , like Son’s of Anarchy on Horses and dodge pickups. Please make it better !
“App-a-ma-tox”??? Either this is some ignorant child improperly sounding out words that he doesn’t understand or it is a bot that is improperly programmed.
It was an annoying show, modern feminism read back into 1883. The writer is good, he’s an excellent storyteller, but he’s a liberal and he can’t help but to show it in his shows.
I can see that you are a young lifte and haver student American history. You can't even say the name of one of the most important places and time and event in the history of this country same on you
Strainge skript writer, why would German immagrents sail to Texas to make a journey up too the NorthWest when you could take ship too the great lakes and train straight West. Nothing logical about the whole 1883 show.
I'm guessing their ship docked in Texas, not New York. Even if they came to the East Coast, they would have to find a passenger ship to get them through the Great Lakes which would be frozen several months and I don't know where they are going to find a train to California. There weren't that many in the 1800s. If they could do all that I would imagine the cost would too much. Hell idk, they might have taken a train to Texas.
Fabulous acting and terribly written movie. The original series Yellowstone was incredible. This was the worst movie this century. There is no chance we'll ever watch another Sheridan movie.
