In todays episode we pick up a 1932 Oshkosh 4x4 and its an absolute BEAST of a truck BUT there is 1 big problem with it.... #willitrun #willitstart #oldtruck #oshkosh #willitrunanddrive
It would probably be a good idea to partially drain the engine oil to see if water is present underneath. The oil pump will definitely suck up any water and do damage.
Honestly, at this stage I wouldn't worry too much about that milky engine oil atm - change the oil and let the engine get right up to full operating temp and hold it there for an hour or so. These big old industrial gas engines are notorious for filling the oil with condensation if they do short runs/never get up to full temp - especially if they've run on fuels like propane. I'm a forklift tech and we get this issue ALL THE TIME!
Your absolutely correct, im a Farmall addict, and about every 3 months each one needs to spend about 45mins on a disk to run the condensation out. You SR. are on point 👍
@@samsungtvset3398 that could very well be, on the Farmalls and other older engines its just a vent. And the timing covers usually contributes to most of the condensation. They're very heavy cast iron
I worked on a lot of those Waukeshas in cranes back in the day. They were good engines. I was good friends with the dealer in Philadelphia North American Engines on B Street. I think his son still has a lot of NOS parts. That would be Mark at Jobber's Warehouse in Philly. It really doesn't take much water in the oil to make it milky. I've had them with only a tiny bit of water and the oil looked like cappuccino after running a short time. All in all that truck looks like a winner, especially considering it's 92 years old
I'm going to say that I am so happy for you all and me being a old mechanic, fabrication, body, paint, and road service mechanic of 40 years as of last August, 20th to see you guys grabbing and saving them from the scrap yard and I wish I was there to help you all because when I got tossed in the trade at 15 I started with Semi truck wheels and in the Western Pennsylvania Farm and Rust Belt country we had tons of those with split rims and widow maker wheels and after a good year and a half of that I was lucky enough to have two guys one was early 40's and the other one was in his mid 50's and the tossed me in to working on stuff like that with nothing but being told to do this and if any questions stop and ask. Luckily I had to of the best people who were able to explain to me what and how to do it and they could watch me as they did their own work. From there it was more and more as it went and as you know it is all history for us now. Thanks for sharing this with me and my family,🧐💯%! For the first 10 years of my work was 70 % big old farm, power plant, coal mines, road work. Reminder of the good old days and the only thing that I don't miss is the farmers and miners using the old Aircraft landing wheels with the 40-44 ply tires and they usually took two of us to change them especially if they got them used at the Pittsburgh, Pa. International Airport and put them on the tractors and other bigger equipment. Say after five or so years if they were used that long as the laws got updated and they were not allowed to run them as much as as they used to but the farmers and miners would run them until they were dry rotted so bad you could see the middle plies of sidewall cords and it would rub holes in the tubes. They would get almost petrified and so stiff we would have to use a bead breaker and then try to run them over with the truck and push with the back hoe to get them off. I hope that you have a great day day today and I hope you are able to get it to be a great mule and local highway runner for short hauls to town maybe 🤔. Would be the center of the world at a location car or truck show with some TLC and a great refresher of all the normal maintenance items as long as you don't have any catastrophic issues with anything. They were built so tough that the shame is if they would have done the simple maintenance and not let it go to pot in a hand basket. Great day and I hope you have a good go of getting it to where you want it to be and I don't believe that you will have a issue doing so as I have been watching you do this for a good while now.
Your a great dad brother i always wished my dad would spend time with me like yours does with you , really made me smile when he made the suggestion "eanna see if it will run" and the truck is rad too but a dad like yhat is priceless.
Dang! Nice one boys. If you'll take a tip from an old Cat mech who ran desert roadtrains in Aust. Do remove those ancilliaries, its totally worth it long term, new bearings, new lipped seals, clean up the shafts, especially on the running surfaces, clean out oil feed galleries. Don't be churlish about taking the head off, its simple as, clean out all lube & coolant galleries, dismount the valves & hand reface the valves & seats. Check for correct oil pressure, its only a pre-determined spring, tension pressing a (bearing) ball against its seat. Cut your own gasket out of copper sheet. The trick with head gaskets is to torque down sequentially 3 times after reassembly. Once, then run up to operating temp, cool right down, like overnight, re-torque, then re-torque for the third time after about 500 miles when everything has settled into its position proper. Its a pain because you have to remove the valve train each time, but it will never trouble you again thereafter. Needless to say, but clean mating faces if you don't want leaks. It too will be a pain if it involves removing seized in studs, but it can be done with care & forethought without snapping them. Then hand face over grit on a very flat sheet. Cat make a range of liquid gaskets, red is the universal, yellow seals up to 60 thou. Do pay close attention to shaft end floats, so shim appropriately, & cut your own. Piston rings are the life of any motor, so clean air, fuel, & oil is essential. Its well worth the trouble. While the head is off, may as well drop the crank & see, be sure to clean out the accumulated carbon in the piston lands. Never put new rings into old bores, either replace same in same, or renew both together. Ham fisted mechs always upset the float in a carb. its a delicate thing & the fuel level in the bowl determines how the jets are fed. The float level is set by simply bending the tang attaching it to the body. Correct float setting is when the engine runs its nicest with the mixture screw in the middle position +/-. A lot of folks restore, & they look great, but seldom run beautifully, just like the factory intended. If you want to convert red rust to black oxide, use vinegar on oil free surfaces. Not the salad kind (6% acidity), the cleaning kind marketed as 2x double strength. Get it from the supermarket. It will knock even heavy scale, if you leave it on long enough. Trick is to keep it from drying out, so put a soaked rag over it, tape plastic sheet over it in the case of panels, great on tools too, wrap in a rag & put it in a plastic bag. In a jar it can be re-used until its a goup. Works a treat & wash off with water when done. To avoid flash rusting prior to paint, wash of with rain water. Looks like you get plenty of that for free. Don't use soft paint. Use hard epoxy 2 part mix, best place to get it from is ship yard suppliers. You'll want 5 gallons of top coat to do the whole truck, half that in etch primer. Trick is, thin coat of primer, thick coat of colour. Do everything right, & you'll only ever do it once. Have fun.
content like this channel is what RU-vid should be. people doing their thing and sharing it. when things become a production, the ads, the plugs, the sponsors and all the other garbage ruin it. people want that money and pander to the powers that be resulting in censorship that goes far beyond bleeping swear words. good stuff though, very cool old truck.
I saw that truck for sale as well, I wanted it so bad but it was too far from me, I'm so glad you got it. I have a 1941 Oshkosh W400 with a 4-71 detroit that runs and drives, heavy and slow but great trucks to play with. I'd love to get a F-Model at some point for my collection. Look behind the right front tire on the frame, around the front spring mount, if its at all similar to mine there should be a frame stamp with a model and serial
What a fantastic truck! Great save, gents. I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing this old girl get some much deserved LOVE. Thanks for sharing...keep up the great videos...and KEEP 'EM COMING!
@@Edward-Thaine It was at the Columbia River Gorge interpretive center, they underwent some staff changes recently, so I'm doubtful they'll know much about it. I'll see if I can dig up any information on the truck, I know some folk who used to work down there.
Totally cool! We had those in Colorado forever and they were all snowplows! With big monster blades about 6-7’ tall for the highway. All orange and I couldn’t tell you the years, they all looked the same! Nice!✊
I seen this thing in Washington last weekend and it is definitely Big and bad ass . It must have been a off road log truck ? Can you imagine the o shit moments in its hay day that old girl has seen. I bet that milkshake is simply from years of setting around. She's cool guys 😎👍
I have a set of very decent grade/quality old military 14x20 tires that’d look awesome on that! Toss in some plexiglass, fab up some doors & GO! That’d look absolutely incredible if u could find/score an early ‘30’s heavy duty wrecker wench/boom setup on chassis back there!
Grease caps were very common on vehicle water pumps before we had neoprene sealed bearings. I remember working on AEC, Leyland, and Foden double deck buses from the early 1950's that all had them. A very tuff Truck that reminds me of the trucks I have seen in very early photos of the initial earth works at the beginning of the Snowy mountains Hydroelectric and Irrigation scheme built in Australia from 1948 to 1972. An American company was one of the major contractors. It is legend that when a machine had reached its end of life it was parked at what would be the deepest part of the dam excavation site and submerged when it filled because dragging it back out of the remote sites was difficult and cost money. If true I wonder how many machines including trucks similar to this one are in a watery grave.
Oshkosh is just brilliant--they're still around, they still make incredibly beefy stuff like this. Proper truck with a pedigree, this thing. LOVE that the diffs are interchangeable.
My ‘54 fwd fire truck has the same engine, and the water pump had the same issue last year. There’s a couple of places I found that had rebuild kits available. Now it holds coolant great
I would throw an engine flush in the crankcase and refill it with old used oil and see what happens. If it comes back okay put some new oil in and go with it. I would expect pretty much everything to leak shortly
I recognize those two levers by the handbrake, the inner one is for engage/ disengage on the PTO, and the outer one would have controlled whatever the PTO was running, most likely a dump box from when it was a plow truck. The levers themselves are near identical to the ones in my '47 Ford dump truck, so I'm going to hazard a guess that it has a Chelsea PTO.
Just found your site. I dig this truck. You gave a little info on it but what did you pay for it ? Give us an idea of what we should be paying if we run across something similar.
Those look like Timken design double reduction differentials, possibly built by Timken for Oshkosh. Those type third members were common on 5 ton and up class trucks into the 1940's By the mid 1920's, electric starting was pretty much the standard, that hand crank was for emergencies!! Carburetor would have originally been updraft, somebody flipped things around to use different carb. Hood latches are identical to my 1927 Hudson super six !! What a sweet truck !!
YOU GUY'S CRANKIN THAT OL MOTOR WITHOUT CHANGING THA OIL ☝️ IS NOT SMART ALL THE OLD SHIZER THAT'S IN THAT OIL IS SITTING IN THA BOTTOM OF THA PAN JUST WAITHING TO GET OUT YOU CRANK IT UP AND ALLLL THAT SHIT IS NOW PUMPIN THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND COULD DAMAGE THA BEARINGS AMONG OTHER THINGS BUT YOU KID'S I GUESS WILL LIVE N LEARN 🙄
From what I can see of it, that engine looks like a 145 Waukesha. The water in oil on the ones I worked on usually came from cylinder sleeves leaking past the wet sleeve o-rings. The ones I worked on drove gas compressors and were surplus engines from WW II tanks.
About the only thing you can do is to rebuild the engine. For a short-term fix, we used Barz Leaks in about double the quantity called for. It would hold for a while, but eventually, it will leak again. To check for that, drain the oil and put some antifreeze in it and let it sit overnight with the drain plug open and a clean bucket under it. See what comes out. From there, drop the oil pan and with antifreeze in it. Look at the base of the cylinders for leaks.
I would change the oil and filter. Possibly add some stp run it for a while and bring it up to operating temp and see if it seals up.I believe it is a sleeved engine and the o rings might seal.
mostly just condensation. These monsters' motors were mostly cast iron and sweated a lot. If they weren't run long enough to get them up to temp, then run some more, then all that condensation didn't evaporate out.
From what I know, this is an FB model. Now, this is just what I remember from the air force museum in Dayton, OH. But the FC models were duallies and the FB models had a single rear tire on an oversized hub. But, they were the same truck essentially, just the FC model came later and had some minor upgrades done. I just remember trying to figure it out from the pictures they had up on the display and that was all I could come up with.
@@Edward-Thaine Very cool! Them straight 6 are bullet proof. Anything classic, vintage, and the mechanical aspects gets my attention. I appreciate you responding. Thanks, 👍🏼
My Dad was a lifelong truck nut. How was 2yrs old when this truck was built. He passed away in 2013. I always wished videos like these would've been around when was alive. He would have loved it!!! thanks for posting and good luck with her!
@@markmorris2267 Hi, just thought I'd add to my last comment . I should have said underdrive direct overdrive . Also starting in the late 50s a 4 spd aux. (brownie) was available . One version had a deep under , under , dir. , od . The other (called progressive) gave you 4 evenly spaced ratios (1u , 2u , dir , od) . With a 4 spd main box , that's 16 forward spds , 5 main 20 fwd ! That's what I learned on in '65 at 15 y.o. ('56 mack lt w/380 Cummins , 5.23 ratio ) and drove for my 1st 7 years . Take care and have FUN 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great truck. Cooling system; Dad was a fleet diesel mechanic, he used to put a gallon od diesel fuel in the clean system to keep it clean. I know it works just remember it's there and not a head gasket.
At 37 minutes, I was looking at the rear axle, and wondering how many turns the driveshaft is before the tire rotates once. Maybe 10 rotations? You need to put some string on the driveshaft, and drive forward until the tires rotate once, and see what it is. Love the sound of that huge gas engine! Oshkosh made trucks that last! I wonder if a museum would like to see it fixed up?
Just join your channel Steve from Annapolis Maryland this is so cool what you guys are doing and you got your father helping you it's good to see family working together and everybody getting along everything's positive and looks like a really cool place where you live too
That’s what I need to skid some timber out of my woods!😉 seriously awesome truck! Definitely worth fixing the water in the oil and brakes. She’s begging to go back to work!
The Oshkosh is super cool when I was a kid in the 60s about 12 years old my neighbor had Oshkosh his name was Kenny Krall he had a lot of cool crap have a great day thanks to the video keeps me inspired I can't build cars anymore but I enjoy this thanks
We have a couple videos of the firetrucks. Bringing it home, getting it running and driving it! Theyre super cool trucks with GIANT engines, check out our page. 1958 mack b-21 Firetruck. Thanks for watching!
I'm very happy that You and Your Dad saved this truck. I saw it on FB Marketplace about 12 days ago and considered adding it to My Herd of Nags as it was not far from home in the PNW. But I have too many projects that need finishing. Great job guys!
