I'm liking this challenge. Two different channels with two different styles with the same goal. And the ball busting going on between the two. Yeah, your motor definitely needed more attention than Scott's. I am thoroughly enjoying both builds. Saving old iron is what this is all about. Thanks again for the videos....
Don't forget that Scott had to source a new motor and transmission for his Studebaker which is getting more love than the Vicky, at least in my opinion.
Glad to see you are ok Jonathan. Doing clean up on those wrecks can tell on a person. If you ever feel it creeping up on you get some professional help. I know you and I come from an era that guys were supposed to be tough and keep it all in. Those dead bodies stacked up high enough they tipped over and started chasing my mind. It was bad. Anyway. On a lighter note I see you are working with a skeleton crew. The guy seems to have lost a little weight since he's been working with you. You need to let your crew go to lunch. LOL! I love the Studebaker, I'm with you I have never seen a piston that bad except for a diesel e one that a guy put just a little bit too much starting juice into. That took out the liner too. We had no idea what the heck we had and ended up taking the whole mess out in chunks. Fun times! Take care and don't let them work you too hard. Cheers Terry
Hi Jonathan! Absolutely enjoy the good natured poking at CWM 😂. An idea for future stuck rings, in old pot with enough oil in it to cover the piston. The heat the pot, to bring the temperature operating temperature, let soak. It should free the rings. Keep at it. It will be a great runner when your done!
Jonathan, just some constructive criticism. We used to knurl the valve guides, small wheel on an arbor would raise metal inside the valve guide and then ream to size. This not only tightens up the guide and provides new surface for the valve stem but allows better lubrication to the valve stem as oil can travel down the knurled groove. Regarding grinding the valve seats, they should be topped with a 15 degree stone to place the top edge of the seat slightly in on the valve face, then narrow the seat to about a sixteenth inch from the bottom using a 60 degree stone. Too wide of a valve seat allows them to carbon up easily. Another thing we used to do in the 70s is knurl the piston skirts, then fit them to the cylinders using a file. Again the knurl holds oil on the skirts and snugs the pistons up so they don't rock in the cylinder. Keep your eyes out for both tools, they should be around yet. Simple tools with great value and you can do the both yourself. I worked in an automotive machine shop right out of high school (1971), got a great education on internal combustion engines. Rebuilding engines has become a lost art these days but the skills and knowledge would be very useful on the older iron. PS. love your channel, favor the steam restoration the most, but all is good.
Piston knurling, didn't see this coming. I watched my dad knurl pistons in his garage in the late '40s. All sorts of trick stuff of the day that now shows up here. Cool.
I have knurling tools, but there is a reason 10 valves were stuck, No wear at all. They even make a set of valve with .003 oversize. I checked and I would have had to ream them .003 to make the fit with correct clearance.
I don’t think that you need to knurl anything unless you’re way out of spec. I had an old pontiac that we knurled the valve guides but that was because they were worn out.
@@grande1184 Ok, here's my take on that. Look at the valve stems Jonathan hammered out, the inside of the valve guides will look the same or worse because the cast iron head is softer than the valves. A quick knurl and ream would give a new smooth surface for the valve stem to slide in, plus the knurl would aid in oil traveling down the guide to keep the valve stem lubricated. Used to install bronze lined replacement valve guides that already had a knurl done to the inside for exactly that reason. Knurl can be used to hold oil on piston skirts too. Knurl isn't just for fixing wear. These days we have molybdenum coatings on piston skirts that do the same job. Guides wear at the port end faster than they wear on top, carbon build up and high heat cause this.
I enjoy all of your videos, but I started watching years ago for the old school mechanical work and I still enjoy them the best. Thanks for all the work involved in making ALL of the videos. Oh yeah, Meow to Ninja Catscan!
Considering that Scott had to source a new block for his Hawk, technically you're not too far behind, Jonathan. If that Canadian "spy" would stop having unfortunate "accidents" you would probably have more done😆
Jonathan and Scott from War Motors have to hook up and do a video. I'm really enjoying the refence to each other in their videos and respect they have for each other'
Great video Jonathan... nice touch with the humor! My grandmother was a Studebaker girl, she always drove Studebakers. Favorite memory... she had a black and red Hawk she like to Burn Rubber with. Thanks for the update, PS... I like your Studebaker better than cold Wars.
This with the Coldwarmotors is insane! But I am afraid, as much as I like Studebakers, that Ford runs awfully good...and you know they kinda cheated on their Stude, just saying, but their original drive train appeared to have been purposely trashed by some evil doer... I am really enjoying this... thanks for playing along! You sir are a master of long distance ball busting...
Great video as always Johnathan 👍 it's so cool to see ya clownin around with Scott and the guys at Cold War Motors, your channel and theirs are my 2 favorite channels and actually are the first 2 channels I subscribed too!
Beginning the video with a lovely dig...made in the USA, not Canada was great for the tone of the competition! Of course, they came back with the option of sending back the book you had so kindly shipped...spies and bony cousins and shenanigans all around...more is better! fun stuff...
1st it was Puddin and Mortske. Now it's Jonathan and ColdWarMotors. Friendly competition between 2 Nations to see who can get the best running Studebaker. I have to say Scott has a good running motor up there. Scott did swap his automatic transmission for a standard. Hey. Made in the USA.
Dead CWM agent was hilarious, a little too late ,they got their Studebaker running..... you should film that skeleton with some of the wrecks you pick up to get the point across, Alcohol and speed don't mix! .
When I worked for Fram in the UK., Fram also made filters for others, such as Ford, Purolator, and Gloster Saro. Why do you think Fram filter numbers are the automotive industry standard?
Great video! I've watched CWM and your channel for about the same length of time. Loving the trash talk between you. Both channels are tops in my opinion.
hey jonathon.....love your vids.....you amaze me with your knowledge and abilities on what you do....and i thought that lil shot a cwm was hilarious....just made me laugh....and i bet the boys over there had a good laugh too....anyways keep up the great work
Wanted to give you a heads up, studebaker parts online sells steel braided oil hoses for the supply and return lines for the oil filter can. They also make one for the oil pressure gauge connection that feeds off the back passenger side cylinder head. That hose is a well known failure point on these motors. I ordered a replacement last week as mine was basically petrified and went crunch. Its awesome you can re-line your old shoes. The fronts are hard to come by and nobody reproduces them. There's at least one vendor out there that will re-line them but its not cheap. Really enjoying these videos as im working on getting a 55 commander back on the road.
Jonathan, I'd like to see you get a work table or bench to get up off the ground. It'll save your back and knees. I've done my share of working on the ground, a work bench is so much better. Love the Studebaker, especially the Packard engine.
This is great, like you those boys up north know their way around engines, those old rings were tough, I've seen some stuck rings but nothing like that
If you spy on Jonathan's Studebaker, you see the end results 😂😂 Just leave number 6 empty ...it will run just fine 🤦♂️🤣 Seeing the accidents around here, I can only imagine what it's been like in your area...most are impatient drivers and cut in front of on coming vehicles...like they can't wait 1 more min 🤦♂️
Ha! Awesome... Sorry to hear about Justin! New rings! Well, why not just buy a whole different eng-... Oh. Never mind. Cheers from the land of inferior gaskets and brakeless race cars!
I've seen damaged pistons like that before. The guy that unstuck that motor, had the head off and beat on that piston too hard and smashed it down. That or there was too much crap on top of the piston when they forced it over TDC and there wasn't clearance for it between the head and top of the piston. Might check that rod to be sure it isn't bent as well. What I can't believe, is that you found new engine parts on line! And they not old stock!
Be careful with that welder, wouldn't want to accidentally get some weld on those spider gears. Also white walls on those cheater slicks was a great idea and that rust definitely needs to be ground out of them ports. That cam looks worn, it may also need to be "replaced", with a "factory" original.
EXCELLENT VIDEO Johnathan W :) looking forward more videos too on your Studebaker car also & enjoy your time working on it to motor plus more and for clean up fuel tank Johnathan W have try 60 % Vinegar and 40% hot warm water mix then drain to do 2 times! Plus filler neck clean up on rust with Pressure washer both even tank see what happens then ! Also air dry out too !
What are your plans for the bulletnose stude? And - maybe - find yourself a good workbench and put some pneumatic tires on it so you could roll it around your yard
I like this project but there is so much time spent with him talking and nothing happening and then suddenly off camera "BOOM!" valves are out!! HOw? they were stuck I was hoping to see HOW he got them out.
Hey Jonathon just caught a video on Theetravisb giving a tour of former Bethlehem steelworks shows 12 80ft converted steam engines was part 2of driving old Chevy made me think of you
Rebuilding old engines seems to be a lost art. There are very few people making RU-vid videos about them anyway. I don't know whether to laugh or cry when these young guys open up an engine, see a bit of rust inside, and declare "It is rusted so we have to find a replacement". Good grief, I have cleaned and honed and milled engines even worse than your Packard and ended up with smooth-running motors that will go another 50,000 miles. I realize people have been spoiled by modern engines that will run 200,000 miles with little more than a spark plug change. People have forgotten that engines built in the 1950s were lucky to make it to the 100,000 mile mark without a major overhaul. I really appreciate your efforts to revive the old iron and show that they can be rebuilt to better than new standards with a little bit of effort and ingenuity... Keep up the good work (and take a break when you need to, we'll wait for the next video)...
Speakin of Canada....didnt Scott Newstead drive his studie around his yard today???? I think he even did a donut or two😅. Okay okay...5 against one isnt reallllly fair. But it is one Jonathan after all.😂❤. Cheers Jonathan from the great white north.
Always enjoy your videos,this studebaker is in way better shape than the cold war folks so i am glad to see you take a little time on this .Plus they have a roughshod team of experts haha and this car is all you.i watched the coldwar video of scott finally driving his studey -doors flying open-no brakes very entertaining. but i know thats not your style. thanx again for all the knowledge you share.
love it i see your pint on the valves hope you get sorted soon them guys are ahead of you at 5 to one looks like they will be doing a fred flintstone befor long 😎🤣🤣🤣
those skeleton gags! been plugging your steam collection a bit to a british channel called HubNut, who specializes in the itty-bitty European market cars scattered around there (and in similar shape to what you find). I would love to see his reaction to a Crosley. meanwhile, can't wait till you "engine whisperer" on this one.
OHHHH! Great shot a cold war motors.... I watch both of your channels and have for a number of years! NOT made in Canada was good too... the skeleton was outstanding!
If you are near Greensboro then you aren't far from Rob Pitt's (Rabbit) and where he sells vintage cars and trucks. He was a You Tube channel that I am sure you watch.
I bought a 69 AMC Ambassador with transmission problems. When I was starting to pull the transmission out of it, I had a drop of antifreeze fall on my face. It only took about another minute for me to spot the leak and within 5 minutes, my whole plan changed. I drained the radiator and block, and pulled the engine and transmission together. It was the best way to get to every core plug on that engine. It also allowed me to correct other things with easy access which included fixing some wiring issues related to the conversion of the charging system from a Chrysler alternator to a Delco Remy internal regulator alternator. Also the way it was mounted required some work to stabilize the alternator and bring it into proper alignment for the belt. Having everything out in the open made it so much easier to work on especially for the hacked up wiring in the engine compartment. I was amazed that the car hadn't burned with the amount of bare splices I found. She was a sweet running car that was the most stable driving car I ever owned. I had the right front tire blow out at 70 mph and it never quivered until I dropped below 40.
55 and 56 had different head casting. 55’s had the smaller valves. 56 they increased the valve size to 2” and added some lift and duration to the cam to get that 275hp mark
I think your friend is needing a lil something to eat - kinda puny lookin layin there... lol .. Something I wonder about the piston that changed shape is freezing water in the cylinder. If the engine was already locked up and things got just right with piston height in the block and water getting in and freezing, its the one thing I know for sure that has the power to change the shape like that without showing a strike mark in the damage. I believe you when you say those were the worst rings ever. They looked pretty tough, lotta guys won't even try them that bad - they just get pistons or bale out of the project/ change the plan. Thanks for sharing!
First thing I do is redo the old heads on old muscle cars. They need to seal good. But those pistons are the worst glad your cleaning them up and re ringing them. It will be a ripper.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to take a block or rod and cut it off maybe like some 2" stock and drill a oversized hole to capture the head of the valve stem to whack on so you don't mushroom the head of the valve stem? Too much work for nothing you're going to save?
We used to get those parts boiled out. Then things came unstuck a lot easier & nothing broke or bent. When done, reboiled and then the rebuilding started if no cracks were found. Lots of work but is paid off.
I just love these old cars getting a new life. These cars have so much style. Love watching not only these but giving new life and purpose to the old steam engines.
Just think ho much better it will run if things are done the best they can be. it don't have to be perfect to run really well. for entertainment purposes only. not medicinal.
Family owned a wrecking yard all old engines we would soak whole engine in a tank with old atf and old brake fluid for few days pull them out steam clean then tear down made them come apart alot better . Cool to see old stuff being fixed .
when you have all back together do you charge the oil system, my dad always taught us to rotate and use a click clack pump to push oil throughout the system and ensure the gauge had good pressure
Cold War Motor guys reminds me of myself hanging around Grady Hagers garage on Trace Fork in Boone County WV, near Chapmanville. lots of laughing and foolishness.. I even hear them saying old words like we used to say. they eat supper like we did. I especially enjoy your work on cars. I think that steam is on its way back as a good energy.source..Paul from Chesapeake, OH
Hastings or Baldwin filters coming from a lifetime mechanic! And how big are those intake valves? You answered my question 194 in 1956 Studerbaker was really advanced for the time!
