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1957, AEC Mandator ballast tractor, YNN 724. Road trip. 

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Come and have a trip around the English country side at our expense !
With our 1957 AEC Mandator ballast box tractor and trailer, with an authentic cradled textile machine that it used to deliver. although the machine is only half the length it would have carried, it's long enough to show how it worked up until 1972 when it was taken off the road.
The whole outfit weigh's 25 ton's and at only 150 bhp it's a bit slow off the mark !

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Комментарии : 121   
@mooneymooney1565
@mooneymooney1565 4 года назад
I spent most of my childhood in the cab of an AEC and an ERF with mi fantastic grandad behind the wheel I'm 52 now and I'd give everything I've got in the world to have even just another hour with him
@rotherham1962
@rotherham1962 4 года назад
Totally agree fella, you never forget them and hopefully one day we will meet all our lost loved ones again.
@exb.r.buckeyeman845
@exb.r.buckeyeman845 3 года назад
What lovely memories Mooney, I started as an AEC apprentice in April 1966, and can appreciate all your fantastic feelings.
@robertp.wainman4094
@robertp.wainman4094 Год назад
​@@exb.r.buckeyeman845 I've always loved the transmission sound of AEC buses, but wonder why some models were more 'musical' than others? London Transport RT's perhaps the best sounding of all.
@philipdevonald1273
@philipdevonald1273 4 года назад
Spent so many hours with my dad in such trucks, I will never forget the smell of oil and diesel
@rodneygavinplonker7531
@rodneygavinplonker7531 4 года назад
And it smells good to. And the memory that goes with it. Awesome
@ROCKINGMAN
@ROCKINGMAN 7 лет назад
Fantastic AEC tractor unit from 1957, that engine sure sounds great, one of my favourites of buses and trucks, AEC.
@nkelly.9
@nkelly.9 2 года назад
What a beautiful and proper, real truck, sorry lorry. Thank you for sharing
@lesthiele4921
@lesthiele4921 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing this great video, it's far more pleasurable seeing these old trucks on the road, I got my licence in a New Zealand Army RL Bedford, and this just brings back those memories, keep safe and well everyone in these crazy Covid times.
@9186SZ
@9186SZ 2 года назад
Fantastic video wonderful engine sound
@SX1000ninja
@SX1000ninja 6 лет назад
Who needs Netflix when you can watch these type of videos. Amazing job of restoring this lorry and what a great combination she looks too. How things have moved on from when this truck was designed to now where the ‘MAN’ tractor I drive for a living now has Bluetooth, air assisted seats, power steering, lane guidance and so on. Thank you 🙏🏼
@9_19Ming
@9_19Ming 3 года назад
Love AEC so much ❤️
@exb.r.buckeyeman845
@exb.r.buckeyeman845 3 года назад
When the AEC tilt cabs came in in 1967/68 life as a mechanic became a lot easier.
@eldorado62
@eldorado62 9 лет назад
Great shifting, Johnny. Don't rush the changes, feel it through.
@davidluck4608
@davidluck4608 2 года назад
What a splendid vehicle! I served an apprenticeship and worked at Windmill lane during the 1970s. I also drove RM’s for London Transport and although the buses were semi automatic with no clutch, I always shifted gears manually pausing between changes. You both have a skill at driving this fine Lorry😇
@joemcgovern1125
@joemcgovern1125 6 лет назад
That is a bloody lovely old lorry,and well driven by both of you,nice to see someone can still do it properly
@nigeltomlinson3329
@nigeltomlinson3329 3 года назад
Wagons with hearts ♥️ not engines with robots 🇬🇧
@staffy109
@staffy109 7 лет назад
Magnificent vehicle, I wish I had a 4 x 4 matador, my late father worked for AEC before WW2, cheers Dennis
@kevinosborne2474
@kevinosborne2474 7 лет назад
beautiful lorry , amazing sound 😀
@v6200man
@v6200man 6 лет назад
oh that nine six - beautifully driven constant mesh box - what a gem
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 6 лет назад
Thanks Tony. This actually has the slightly bigger 11.3 litre engine, same block, slightly bigger bore.
@Karsiyaka02
@Karsiyaka02 10 лет назад
Fantastic sound courtesy of AEC
@micksminisaustinroverparts5882
Lovely old truck A credit to yourself for preserving such a thing of English engineering Beauty!!!!
@1100HondaCB
@1100HondaCB 7 лет назад
I just love AEC trucks and buses.
@fatlad5090
@fatlad5090 Год назад
its got a bow in that trailer
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 9 месяцев назад
Yes, and I know why. Seen it myself with 30 plus tons on it.
@kevinosborne2474
@kevinosborne2474 7 лет назад
proper lorry
@jenw6069ify
@jenw6069ify 8 лет назад
Thanks for posting i love it.My father was driving AEC's for many years by a Dutch heavy haulage and crane hire company called Willem v.Twist in the Netherlands untill they switched to german trucks in the mid 70's.I spend all my school holidays on de co drivers seat.As i remember it wel it were all Mandators 6x4 Tractors and the last one has a Dutch build cabin on it
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 8 лет назад
Thank you, a few years ago I was lucky enough to view a box full of AEC works export photo's, a lot of them were Belgium and Dutch operators with locally built cabs. I'm sure that name was amongst them.
@jenw6069ify
@jenw6069ify 8 лет назад
I checkded some old pictures and discoverd that they were Mammoth Majors.
@exb.r.buckeyeman845
@exb.r.buckeyeman845 3 года назад
Hello Johan, thanks for your comments, I started my Apprenticeship with AECs in Bristol 1966, I worked on the Mercury, Marshall, Mandator, etc and then the first tilt cab in 1977/78, what a difference that made. AECs were late with the Turbo so they lost out. Greetings from Cornwall.
@exb.r.buckeyeman845
@exb.r.buckeyeman845 2 года назад
Great memories Johan, I did my Apprenticeship on AECs in Bristol England, and when the Tilt Cabs came in “ 1967/68 “ life was so much easier as a mechanic. Greetings from Cornwall.
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 11 лет назад
Thanks, Not many this year ! This was done on the return from the AEC rally at Newark last week. Doing Elveston Castle (Derby), Cromford Steam (Matlock) and Lincoln Steam. I don't know if the trailer will be on, some don't have the space for it !
@glenrea
@glenrea 10 лет назад
Why can't modern trucks sound this good?
@LuckyTrucker1
@LuckyTrucker1 7 лет назад
Modern lorries don't sound that good because they have proper silencing . I drove " sheds " from a 1969 Atkinson to brand new ERFs . The old ones contributed to my partial deafness now . Must agree the Mandator ' trots ' along quite nicey and with the seats being fairly flat it wouldn't be too difficult to make it into a comfy bed .
@stevetaylor5933
@stevetaylor5933 5 лет назад
That's AEC music your listening to!
@adwest68
@adwest68 5 лет назад
AEC deep Brown sound, every AEC engine, and norm asp engine in fact too
@normanhughedicko4076
@normanhughedicko4076 5 лет назад
Emissions control,exaust particle..adblue
@gooseknack
@gooseknack 4 года назад
Because they don't make them like they used to! Lol
@1100HondaCB
@1100HondaCB 7 лет назад
These are the trucks my granddad drove.
@paddingtonfire
@paddingtonfire 8 лет назад
Absolutely fantastic...
@basiltaylor8910
@basiltaylor8910 3 года назад
Love that AEC 22O 11.3 Diesel spinning a basic five speed crash box, no range-change or splitter,although you could specify a two speed auxiliary box. Have to work the clutch ,crash box and throttle, a far cry from a ,19 plate Volvo FMX with I-shift auto, just a steering wheel attendant driving one of those.
@exb.r.buckeyeman845
@exb.r.buckeyeman845 2 года назад
Yes Basil, I think David Brown of Tractor and Bentley ? Fame made splitter box’s, but mostly fitted to ERFs and Seddons.
@basiltaylor8910
@basiltaylor8910 3 месяца назад
@@exb.r.buckeyeman845 thank you for the kind comment, have you heard of DB,s 'Rockin, Robin' 8-Speed Range Change Box?, Roller engined Seddon 13-4,s were fitted with DB,s ,Rockin Robin Box, Bulwarks ran Roller 13-4,s hauling tankers.
@scopex2749
@scopex2749 5 лет назад
I loved those AEC grilles, first saw them on the Routemaster busses then they changed to different engines and just had crappy painted grilles :((
@gcfcos
@gcfcos 6 лет назад
Wow what a stunner, lovely sound. Thanks for the video link. I take it same guys from that 1995 video I was on
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 5 лет назад
Correct, your's truly amongst them. Ha.
@arjanwilbie2511
@arjanwilbie2511 8 лет назад
that is how i drive my land rovers. people hate me as i do 40mph most times, but it gets me where i need. i hope to get a truck cab on, a harvey frost crane on the back, a home made crane on the front and a perkins diesel.
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 8 лет назад
+Arjan Wilbie It's not through choice mate, as it will only do 37mph flat out, so pushing it over that down hill will over rev the engine and cause serious damage to the valve gear. Good luck with the conversion.
@arjanwilbie2511
@arjanwilbie2511 8 лет назад
SMayleification i just like to pootle about on our bendy roads, even on motorways i keep it at 50 maximum as going over that means wasted fuel by air resistance. The perkins engine would limit me on 40mph anyway but it gives loads of power. If i had your AEC i would keep it steady at the 37 mark and just enjoy the trip while impatient folks can just overtake or stay behind me and enjoy the view too.
@markdebarr3501
@markdebarr3501 8 лет назад
Nice truck, nice driving
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 8 лет назад
Thanks Mark.
@johnpirie3800
@johnpirie3800 7 лет назад
Very nice!
@BritishRail60062
@BritishRail60062 7 лет назад
I like old trucks :).
@1100HondaCB
@1100HondaCB 7 лет назад
Me too and old buses.
@gurpreetsingh-rf3oi
@gurpreetsingh-rf3oi 6 лет назад
Beautifu sound...
@SubvenioArguo
@SubvenioArguo 5 лет назад
1:45 You can feel what gear you're in.
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 10 лет назад
@kevvywevvywoo
@kevvywevvywoo 7 лет назад
lovely
@adwest68
@adwest68 5 лет назад
I like AEC
@GWLAD
@GWLAD 10 лет назад
good vid
@gb5uq
@gb5uq 5 лет назад
There were once between thirty and forty British truck and bus manufacturers. Now there are none.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 5 лет назад
I knew there were a lot, but not that many.
@jaggass
@jaggass 8 лет назад
We must always ask that question what happened to to our industry? we were the giants at building things like these. The likes of Leyland,AEC, Foden etc are gone now. Old British lorries had some really nice styling before they turned into boxes.
@lukecrowley571
@lukecrowley571 8 лет назад
Leyland are very much still around, but they only build Daf-badged trucks now. A bit of a shame really, but like UK built Nissans and Hondas (and Mercedes F1 cars) we tend not to think of them as truly British because they have a foreign badge on them.
@jaggass
@jaggass 8 лет назад
Luke Crowley Youre right about Leyland trucks. We have Vauxhall but in essence just rebadged Opel's.
@colummcmonagle4579
@colummcmonagle4579 8 лет назад
london country buses used to haveone for breakdown recovery top speed 30mph if u missed a gear youve had it drove one many times great fun colum mc monagle
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 7 лет назад
Ahhh! After over two decades of seeing pics of these AECs with that front ( TV screen shaped grill and bug eye headlights) I finally get to see one through its paces and the noise exceeded expectations. How did you get the exhaust to sound so sporty?!!
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 7 лет назад
Glad you enjoyed the video, it is much better than looking around a show field with static displays. The exhaust is stainless and that alters the tone, and the bore is only 3 inch, not very big for an 11 litre engine.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 7 лет назад
SMayleification that sound as it takes off from the first few seconds of this clip is sheer heaven! Total respect to anyone who has the skill and perseverance to get these machines in running condition and looking so professionally turned out. At last, video of them doing actual work!! I
@squach6239
@squach6239 7 лет назад
SMayleification That is a quality transmission!! What a slick shifting ol thing!
@hughvane
@hughvane 5 лет назад
Oh my, those window stays on the front screen! I wish modern trucks had those as well as the power-guzzling aircon systems. Just wondering, but would a preselector gearbox have worked in a vehicle of that torque and weight? They were a massive boon to bus drivers without the benefit of power steering, in busy and crowded city conditions.
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 5 лет назад
Ten years after the vehicle was built Leyland offered as an option the 'Coventry Self Changing Gears' semi-auto box (as fitted to buses and coaches) to their 'Beaver' tractor units, commonly known as the Two Pedal Beaver, this was also available on the AEC Mandator V8 models with a splitter arrangement giving ten speeds. Neither was a success even running at only 32 tons gross.
@hughvane
@hughvane 5 лет назад
@@SMayleification Thank you for that info. I recall the buses I travelled on in the 1960's still having the preselector. That was in Christchurch NZ, and the majority of those buses were AEC, including Regal and Reliance (Mk IV?). I don't know what their gross tonnage would have been, but the p-s gearboxes seemed to last the distance. I don't know of any buses nowadays that use p-s.
@jamescampbell7780
@jamescampbell7780 5 лет назад
Magic sound! What like is a long draw-bar trailer to reverse?
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 5 лет назад
Like pushing a piece of string!
@torchyboyz
@torchyboyz 8 лет назад
What a lovely old truck, sounds like a real truck too. What tax bracket is this in, do you tax it historical and if you do do you still need a hgv licence to drive it? Thanks again for a nice vid. Regards, Paul.
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 8 лет назад
Thanks Paul, it is taxed 'Historic Vehicle'. Being pre 1960 you don't need an HGV license to drive it and it's also MOT exempt, but still must be road worthy. All these proviso's mean it cannot be used commercially.
@saltsession2745
@saltsession2745 9 лет назад
Its got a fast diff not like the matador i drove 36kmh flat out in top gear
@terrancebubbatrucks
@terrancebubbatrucks 11 лет назад
great video what vintage shows do you go to with your wagons
@steamwally
@steamwally 10 лет назад
Awesome sound, and well turned out truck, I dream of owning something like this one day!.....one day...... What engine's fitted?
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 10 лет назад
AEC's own 11.3 litre direct injection, 6 cylinder diesel. 150 bhp at 1800 rpm.
@adwest68
@adwest68 5 лет назад
1957, the engine with the separate cranckcase and cyl. Block?
@carlnapp8673
@carlnapp8673 8 лет назад
Hi, rubbing the gear stick between two gears whilst upshifting, is that an equivlent to the "counting practice" from the Continent? :)
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 8 лет назад
+Carl Napp Ha-ha, Timing is everything, whatever it takes !
@carlnapp8673
@carlnapp8673 8 лет назад
SMayleification So it is!
@jaggass
@jaggass 8 лет назад
Stupid questions but was the Mandator spray painted or coach painted?
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 8 лет назад
+michael jagger Sprayed, all two pack, that's all we use.
@olafb.9304
@olafb.9304 Год назад
Not so ordinary pedal order!? Brake on left, clutch on right and gas in the middle?
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 9 месяцев назад
No, conventional layout.
@1100HondaCB
@1100HondaCB 7 лет назад
What engine is in this truck? Is it the same engine used in the AEC Swift bus (AH505)?
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 7 лет назад
AEC 11.3 engine, this engine later developed into the AV690, the 505 was only 7.7 litre.
@1100HondaCB
@1100HondaCB 7 лет назад
The AEC 11.3 engine is the same displacement as the Leyland 680 and sounds similar too.
@billalbion
@billalbion 6 лет назад
SMayleification I thought the 505 was a bored out version of the 470/7.7 litre engine.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 5 лет назад
billalbion yes. The 505 is about 8 litres.
@fatlad5090
@fatlad5090 Год назад
bet it was numb with a full weight load on
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 9 месяцев назад
High powered for the time at 150bhp. Most were around 120bhp. 🤷‍♂️😂
@colinetheridge9345
@colinetheridge9345 7 лет назад
By the way the driver is winding the wheel I guess there was no power steering in those days.
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 7 лет назад
Ha, no, power steering wasn't standard fitting until the mid 1970's, it was available back in 1957 when this was built as the military AEC Militant had it fitted.
@jaggass
@jaggass 9 лет назад
what will these do without a trailer a 40-50mph?
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 9 лет назад
michael jagger It did 29 mph when new mate, loaded or empty, it now does 37 mph as I've fitted a faster diff. You cant push it much faster down hill or the engine will over rev and probably drop a valve or worse, you could knock it out of gear to get more speed out of it, but that's illegal so we would never do that.
@jaggass
@jaggass 9 лет назад
this sounded it maxxed out at 2000rpm. it does well for a 50yr old lorry. high speed diff's do work wonders relating to speed.
@jaggass
@jaggass 9 лет назад
got any bedford's? like TK's or anything?
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 9 лет назад
michael jagger Wouldn't have one in the yard Michael, horrible things !
@bernardtharme838
@bernardtharme838 6 лет назад
Why isnt the load secured?
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 6 лет назад
It is, the cradle is bolted directly to the chassis of the trailer and the textile machine within is bolted directly to the transoms of the cradle. This is exactly as this outfit operated sixty years ago other than the load, which is only half the length.
@michaeljagger7673
@michaeljagger7673 9 лет назад
is this a routemaster engine? it sounds just like a routemaster.
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 9 лет назад
Michael Jagger Very similar, the Routemaster originally had the AV 590, which was a reworked 9.6.This has the 11.3, same engine as the 9.6, but just 10mm bigger on the bore diameter, these engines were later reworked becoming the AV 690. It strange that AEC used metric sizing on the earlier 9.6 & 11.3 litre engines, and then imperial cubic inches on the 590/690 later engines.
@jaggass
@jaggass 9 лет назад
+SMayleification correct me if im wrong but it sounds a bit like a Leyland 0.680 engine when going up and down the gears it barks like a 0.680 too.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 3 года назад
@@jaggass far more polished than an 0680. I like the Lancashire lump but the Southall counterpart is more civilised.
@vtecpreludevtec
@vtecpreludevtec 8 лет назад
Hippo,Octopus, other names pls?🇳🇿
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 8 лет назад
They are Leyland names from the so called Zoo family. AEC's were Mammoth major (8), Mammoth minor (6), Marshall (6), Mustang (Chinese 6), Mandator (4 tractor), Mercury (4 light tractor), Ranger (4 low height haulage chassis PSV) all beginning with the letter M, the bus range all began with the letter R. Hope this is of some help.
@joemcgovern1125
@joemcgovern1125 6 лет назад
Mike Berg those are Leyland models,there were many different one
@jaggass
@jaggass 8 лет назад
Crash gearbox?
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 8 лет назад
+michael jagger Constant mesh, 5 speed.
@anthonyperkins7556
@anthonyperkins7556 4 года назад
The moment British Leyland got their grubby hands on AEC spelt disaster! It was riddled with the same quality and reliability problems as their own car van and truck division. No wonder the brand died a death under BL. BL's control of AEC turned the company to shit.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 Год назад
Utter tragedy.
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 10 лет назад
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 10 лет назад
@vbusiarz
@vbusiarz 8 лет назад
+SMayleification Leyland O.680.
@SMayleification
@SMayleification 8 лет назад
AEC 11.3.
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