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1960s Kohler Generator Diagnosis and Tear Down 

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@ramsay19481
@ramsay19481 4 года назад
Nothing like getting an old engine to run after a long period of time.. I started tinkering with small engines when I was probably six years old and I am now 67 and still love to tinker and probably will as long as I am able.. Mike in Louisiana
@Jim-ie6uf
@Jim-ie6uf 4 года назад
meg I’m 62, started when I was 14, blew up the old mans mower. It was either replace the rod or buy him a new one. I fixed it, never figured out if was happy for me that I did it, or pissed because he didn’t get a new mower. Small engine repair is a great side hustle.
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 4 года назад
Engines and the things they power are so cool.
@ramsay19481
@ramsay19481 4 года назад
@@jlucasound Generators,pumps, welders, are just a few of what I had to maintain every day in my 30 year job of which I am retired from ...I still enjoy though..Mike in Louisiana
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert 3 года назад
Just built a cheap Chinese engine kit for a radio controlled car. Had all kinds of problems, got it working though. I will never buy anything from China again if I can help it. I'm currently 24 years old from Virginia.
@beboboymann3823
@beboboymann3823 4 года назад
We were rooting for you and the old 4 cylinder. Had my fingers crossed until the end.
@chriholt
@chriholt 4 года назад
I love watching your diagnostic procedure Mike. Too bad that little Kohler wasn't salvageable, but you can't win them all. Also enjoy watching you and Roadking bring engines back to life. Happy Holidays!
@clydecessna737
@clydecessna737 4 года назад
Once again. I have learned so much your videos; thank you.
@maxhearld1035
@maxhearld1035 2 года назад
I really enjoy watching all of the videos you make mechanical objects [ especially old ones] are awesome I haven't turned any wrenches in a while these videos are keeping me somewhat sane
@jbmbanter
@jbmbanter 4 года назад
When I saw the cracked block, I knew it was a dead end. Thanks for the video Mike! I always enjoy them.
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 4 года назад
Thanks for checking it out!
@jbmbanter
@jbmbanter 4 года назад
@@SmallEngineMechanic Also I really enjoy watching you and ROADKING working together. Hope the Brownwall starts today!
@kerrygleeson4409
@kerrygleeson4409 4 года назад
Always very interesting Mike thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺🚜
@joeo1352
@joeo1352 4 года назад
Was hoping for a save, enjoyed the tear down. Thanks Mike 👍
@shackman9566
@shackman9566 4 года назад
Thank you again. I always learn something new.
@briancriss68
@briancriss68 3 года назад
I. Just started on 7.5 kw kolher sat 24 year's. Like your channel
@tomwilliams8675
@tomwilliams8675 4 года назад
I enjoy watching good mechanic tear down an engine. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@johnbaker1039
@johnbaker1039 4 года назад
Really enjoy the level of detail you cover in your videos, thanks for posting.
@KowboyUSA
@KowboyUSA 4 года назад
Clear to see she was a compact, sweet little genset in her day.
@wizard1800
@wizard1800 4 года назад
I think its great that you try and keep the old stuff going. I like your videos.
@timothynewkirk2654
@timothynewkirk2654 4 года назад
That was still a fun teardown! Sorry about your luck. This is always an enjoyable channel. TY ...Newk from Kentucky
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 4 года назад
Thanks for stopping by!
@lawnmowerdude
@lawnmowerdude 4 года назад
You’re a good man. If everything went to scrap yard when it stopped working we would run out of parts soon. I was worried you were going to throw it away.
@buildstoys
@buildstoys 4 года назад
A 40 minute video - this gonna be good!
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 4 года назад
Holy Crap! Until you got into the shop, I didn't realize how young you are! What are you, 23? Wisdom beyond your years. Impressive.
@cdray1968
@cdray1968 4 года назад
I’m really enjoying your videos!
@anthonysimonhough9691
@anthonysimonhough9691 3 года назад
Hay mate I watch your videos for the learning entertainment of them I live in New Zealand and we run 240 volt at our mains so although most of your videos deal with 110 volt it’s not a long jump to see how things run thanks for your videos I hope long may you continue.
@nikollatesla6635
@nikollatesla6635 4 года назад
I like electricity as well as engines. Generators are just the right thing
@geoffmorgan6059
@geoffmorgan6059 4 года назад
Old reciprocating compressors, too. Sure would like to find an old LeRoi about 80-100 cfm, etc.
@johndowe7003
@johndowe7003 4 года назад
until you get shocked lol
@nikollatesla6635
@nikollatesla6635 4 года назад
john dowe !!!
@johndowe7003
@johndowe7003 4 года назад
@@nikollatesla6635 👻
@scharkalvin
@scharkalvin 4 года назад
Reminds me of my friend's Vega engine. We found one of the pistons in the oil pan.
@jamesbulldogmiller
@jamesbulldogmiller 4 года назад
After 50,000 miles , the Vega’s pistons liked to swap cylinders with each other
@lassitc
@lassitc 4 года назад
@@jamesbulldogmiller ROFL....
@mohabatkhanmalak1161
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 4 года назад
Wow..!! Now that was a catastrophic failure..!!
@docpalazola491
@docpalazola491 4 года назад
That's where the piston belonged...at least on a Vega.
@donniebrown2896
@donniebrown2896 4 года назад
@@jamesbulldogmiller I bought a '72 Vega gt, two weeks later I was going to pick up my girl friend, directly in front of the dealership the transmission came loose and the only thing keeping it off the ground was the shifter. The mechanic at the dealership found the bolts were stripped going into the bell housing. This was a new car.
@jamesbulldogmiller
@jamesbulldogmiller 4 года назад
very interesting! Thanks for showing that
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 4 года назад
The early sixties. That was back when everyone knew not to put their fingers near the spark plugs. The uninsulated caps is how they gained that knowledge. Ouch! That is how I learned. :-) You know it is worth saving. Anything can be rebuilt. Yes, the cost and time are the "stone walls". Nice machine.
@jjock3239
@jjock3239 2 года назад
It is unfortunate that you didn't get to work on the actual generator. I have a smaller Kohler unit that I have the intention of re-assembling and making operable, and I could have learned a lot from your troubleshooting technique in regard to the generator because I have never worked on one like this. I enjoyed the video, and completely understand why it wasn't worth your time to continue on with the project.
@regsparkes6507
@regsparkes6507 4 года назад
Awww, what a shame that the block has damage too,....that would stop me too! Thanks for the video Mike, they are always very interesting viewing.
@harveygussow7913
@harveygussow7913 4 года назад
Thank you for quite an interesting evaluation of your Waukesha engine. Kohler is still in business and doing well selling laboratory equipment and generators. I asked for Waukesha diesel well that might be a different story. Waukesha Wisconsin is or was a Mecca for industrial diesel engines one of them being Waukesha and the other international diesel. The international corporate structure was such that they needed the foundry to make all those blocks heads, and equipment needed for all the equipment for housings.Sadly I don’t know if either one of them is still there. I moved out of Wisconsin in the 1980s and haven’t been back enough to notice anything.
@nashguy207
@nashguy207 4 года назад
What a shame that was really a lo hour gen set but with the cracked block i would scrap it. Mike I agree with you. Keep the videos coming. Keep Road King out of trouble. Have a great weekend!!!
@johnpavon799
@johnpavon799 Год назад
Great video, you are a very though instructor!
@sumeetbisan7752
@sumeetbisan7752 4 года назад
I just saw your glass cased ic engine combustion video and loved it. Just came by to say thanks for that...!!! :-)
@golfman9290
@golfman9290 4 года назад
Enjoyable vid to watch, cheers Mike.
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 4 года назад
ahh ...That's a bummer Mike .. I was hoping it could be saved ! .. I sure could use that propane setup . I will PM you .. ENJOYED !!
@jonas2431
@jonas2431 4 года назад
Sorry bout the cracked block Mike. Still a cool video so interesting to see this beauty
@THEGMDOCTOR-co9vp
@THEGMDOCTOR-co9vp 4 года назад
I love all your vids Mike you are doing a great job now you need to get lil racer in one of them lol
@acrexp
@acrexp 4 года назад
I know this is 7 months old but I enjoyed it. Those rods and pistons were really beefy for a little four cylinder. Those old industrial engines were really built to last and be rebuilt when needed. Unlike today's throw away culture.
@christineculligan6455
@christineculligan6455 3 года назад
Mike. I just saw the video on the Kohler engine tear down - no cracked head. I live off the grid and have a Kohler engine as a back up to my solar panels. It’s four-cylinder Kohler model number 6.5 A22 built in the ‘60’s very similar to the one you broke down. It runs great and meets all my needs. I was wondering if the controller can be replaced by a modern version? I had the engine refurbished a couple of years ago and it runs great but the controller is looking pretty ragged. The controller looks very complicated but I am wondering if a modern version can replace it. If anyone has an answer or if you Mike can answer I would really appreciate it and any advice Thanks for the video you are amazing and so knowledgeable
@kroghsmachineshop4708
@kroghsmachineshop4708 4 года назад
Interesting video, enjoyed watching, you have a great way to explain what you are doing I learn a lot👍 just a little comment to my last comment, yes we have 3 phases in every house here in Denmark paid by the state, but we also pays 50% in income tax 😅
@superiormusic
@superiormusic 4 года назад
17:35 This just turned into an autopsy.
@uploadJ
@uploadJ 4 года назад
DR. G of the History Channel
@tcmtech7515
@tcmtech7515 4 года назад
I have a sort of similar 15 KVA genset that is also 120/208 three phase as its primary set up. However it is reconfigurable to work as a 120/240 single phase unit by moving one of the phases around to change the stock 'Y' (Wye) winding configuration over to a Zig-Zag ( -^ or ^- ) connection. Basically, it's just taking one of the phases center taps and putting it on the output end of one of the other phases similar to how setting up a 120 VAC full delta configuration works, but not all the way. Worth reading up on if you are ever curious.
@Vicmon
@Vicmon Год назад
Not sure if u can give me some pointers. I have a Kohler 4K generator in my vintage RV. I have to keep the start button pressed in for it to stay running
@screaminjimmy6V53T
@screaminjimmy6V53T 4 года назад
Mike, those cracks between the cylinders will not bother anything. Fill the cracks with irontite, lock and stitch any cracks in the exterior water jacket, and have the deck ground smooth. Might have to have the mains line bored if the block twisted any from the fracture. I did just this on a Hart-Parr 70 5 gear Continental engine. It runs as smooth as silk now. Waukesha built a fantastic engine, and Kohler built one of the best generator heads of that time period.
@mjmcomputers
@mjmcomputers 4 года назад
Think the cracks were from getting hot? Wonder if water froze in it?
@bradsmith1046
@bradsmith1046 4 года назад
Thanks for the Video very helpful. I am in the process of trying to restore a Kohler 15R081 which looks identical to your unit except it is diesel powered. I stupidly damaged the three connector plates that union the genset to the motor when separating the genset. If you have decided to part out your unit I would love to get the plates. Let me know when you get a minute Thanks
@71_sears97
@71_sears97 4 года назад
Just noticed the tag on the engine as I'm watching, that's a Waukesha engine, and I just so happen to live in Waukesha WI and drive by often where they used to be manufactured! Neat engines but it's too bad it's cracked
@userunavailable3095
@userunavailable3095 4 года назад
That's like my '82 Ford Escort: split between the 3rd and 4th cylinders, involving the water jackets. It ran for a while, but it burned more antifreeze than gas.
@watermanone7567
@watermanone7567 4 года назад
Nice video Mike. Thanks
@ernestg.harveyjr7087
@ernestg.harveyjr7087 4 года назад
i was kinda curious if ya coulda quick steeled the cracks and planed it and had it running or if the cracks ran straight down to the base of the block
@dougb6183
@dougb6183 4 года назад
Mike! I have the same genset..so sad to see this not going to run. question for you any chance you could give a few pointers on how to test the compound transformers. Thank you so much...love the channel. Happy holidays to you and yours.
@thereeven
@thereeven 4 года назад
just wondering, how hard it can be to find parts for an engine this ancient? piston rings, bearings, gaskets and so on....
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 4 года назад
Cracked Block. No Bueno. That had to have gotten REALLY hot. You made the right choice. Maybe even #1 and #4 pistons could be reused? Money is such a bitch. Thank You for sharing!
@markhull1366
@markhull1366 4 года назад
In the video it looks like there's a gap between the block and sleeve. Did that block freeze, split, and spread apart?
@harrisonvc9175
@harrisonvc9175 4 года назад
Wow! Your channel is starting to take off too!
@ianlevine273
@ianlevine273 4 года назад
Mike, great video, thanks for sharing. Not asking to see it done, but out curiosity, how big a job would it be to see it run on 1 and 4? If you were going fast and ugly, would bolts straight through 2 and 3 provide enough strength to hold those cracks shut? I know it’s not at all practical, just curious as a thought process.
@RustyGlovebox
@RustyGlovebox 4 года назад
Good call Mike. I had acquired a small kubota diesel and after tear down found a badly rusted cylinder liner and a cracked head. Could be repaired but not worth it to me. Maybe someone will need some parts later.
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 4 года назад
That’s what I’m thinking! Thanks for stopping in!
@bwjones94
@bwjones94 3 года назад
Hey I’m have a Koehler generator bolted to a trailer I bought from at&t after they got new ones. It’s older and here recently it won’t stay running after it’s warmed up only numbers I can find on it are 240957-2 which is on the valve cover. It has a magneto if you let it sit it cranks back up after 20 minutes but then dies out again after 5 it runs off propane also
@MrShagCarpet
@MrShagCarpet 4 года назад
Love this channel :)
@pyotyrprepka1875
@pyotyrprepka1875 4 года назад
Considering the low hours, it died due to lack of maintenance. It is likely a 1960 .model as original parts usually all produced in same year. This unit should have lasted 3000-5000 hours and maybe more with careful maintenance not the 300 hours on the meter generators nowadays have engines less than half the size. An old 1.8 or 2.0 VW TDI engine swap would be a good bet or any engine with same horsepower or better at 1800RPM would do the trick. That is what I would do. Generator section probably still in good shape but may need some maintenance to make perfect. A1960 generator set is pre EPA regulation so any junkyard motor will do to repower it. I would take on this as fun project.
@BobPegram
@BobPegram 4 года назад
Mike what would you have to do to check out the radiator and the generator itself? Would either of those tasks be cost effective if you sold the two pieces? Thanks, I'm just a curious guy.
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 4 года назад
The radiator could be pressure tested to determine if there are any leaks, that would not be a difficult task. For the gen end, a good visual inspection of the windings and associated wiring to look for damaged insulation would be first followed by a few checks with an ohmmeter. If anything looked suspicious but tested okay with the ohmmeter a follow up test with a 500v megger to determine if there are any faults would be in order. Thanks for watching Bob!
@jmccracken491
@jmccracken491 4 года назад
Nice video Mike I sure enjoy watching you explain things as you go. Waukesha engines are good engines. As with any engine lack of maintenance can kill one really quick. By the way, I like your shop.
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 4 года назад
Thanks for checking it out!
@TheFogLakeshore
@TheFogLakeshore 4 года назад
Mike, don't listen to too much 'Fan Service'. People are signed up for what you're doing now, at least I am. Not every channel has to show unrealistic resources and flashy production, I like the format of this channel, and the way you make decisions. Your audio is good and I can see what you're doing. It's a fun channel where I learn things (that I will never use 😂)
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 4 года назад
Thanks for checking it out Robert! I appreciate the kind words!
@bcroadbuilder
@bcroadbuilder 10 месяцев назад
It's about educating people So they can fix things themselves
@ScoutCrafter
@ScoutCrafter 4 года назад
Excellent video! Thanks Mike!
@06Machine
@06Machine 2 года назад
Yeah I have an old flathead kohler and other gensets yes I love working on them. Pretty much on any of them.
@MrTruthAddict
@MrTruthAddict 4 года назад
Great vids! Do you have a source for parts for an old Generac generator? I think it needs a stator
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 4 года назад
Don’t have anything on hand. Thanks for watching
@coryjeffreys5146
@coryjeffreys5146 4 года назад
I knew I should not have started watching ugh I'll be back haha. I love your videos.
@mechanicalpirate664
@mechanicalpirate664 3 года назад
Block could be keyed back together new liners etc worth the money and time?
@Petrochemtester
@Petrochemtester 4 года назад
I have a Montgomery Wards badged Onan W2C...need a piston for it along with a few other parts...any source recommendations?
@frankierutherford1888
@frankierutherford1888 4 года назад
I do enjoy it thank you for sharing my friend
@douglasgerrard5094
@douglasgerrard5094 4 года назад
I just repaired almost identical engine except diesel version that I believe is older? A VRD 155. Parts are still available and quite reasonably priced. Piston, rings and sleeve about 100$ a hole. Bit of trivia, note the rod bearings are not pressure lubricated. Two large holes on rod feed bearing, thus the two holes in rod bearings.
@caddyking
@caddyking 4 года назад
I had the exact same one I picked up for free that was natural gas/LP put some starter fluid in it started right up but I had some issues and had to get it off the property so I got rid of it and now I regret getting rid of it all it really needed was a radiator and tuneup
@rupe53
@rupe53 4 года назад
25:50 always room for Jello! The crud in the cooling passages might be stop leak. BTW, I just retired from over 23 years with a local gen company and I'm probably the last guy there who would even attempt to play with one of these old dogs. I even had ignition parts on my truck for the JB and CCK series Onans when I turned it in last winter. Sorry, no magneto parts.
@sierraevanlukethomas
@sierraevanlukethomas 4 года назад
Great diversion. Best regards,
@frankinpattaya
@frankinpattaya 4 года назад
Mike, I didn’t see a starter motor on the engine.. does it use the generator to start it... Hows the CAT going ? Regards Frank
@waynemurphy7394
@waynemurphy7394 4 года назад
What do you think caused the failure ? I think it ran low on coolant !
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 4 года назад
My thoughts exactly! Was probably a little seep or drip that was ignored then one day the thing was called to run and bang ........ a small problem just turned into a big one. Thanks for watching!
@Revoku
@Revoku 4 года назад
loved this video, more plz also, you seem apologetic alot about your interest in old engines/generators and getting them running/working on them, don't be, its not weird, unusual or uninteresting, loads of people have those exact interests, you don't have to justify your reason for getting old engines running, just doing it for the pure enjoyment of doing so is reason enough, also makes for great videos.
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 4 года назад
Thanks for watching! I appreciate the kind words!
@Fordgpw1942ocalafl
@Fordgpw1942ocalafl 4 года назад
I think it would be awesome to test blue devil on this
@timderks5960
@timderks5960 4 года назад
What kind of microphone are you using? Maybe a shotgun mic could help you reduce the pretty constant traffic noise, at least for the shots where you're in front of the camera
@62chevrolet
@62chevrolet 4 года назад
I love your videos! Keep up the great work
@Toad1973.
@Toad1973. 4 года назад
I enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing.
@dalemettee1147
@dalemettee1147 2 года назад
So Mike, what is the knife switch array on the wall?
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 2 года назад
I don't know what it was originally from, found it at an engine show and thought it would be a good wall hanger until I find a use for it. Thanks for watching!
@jootuupi
@jootuupi 4 года назад
Thank you again for the informative and interesting video. Too bad that the engine was such bad state.
@16mmDJ
@16mmDJ 4 года назад
Why is a lot of thrust wear common to see on generators?
@Imwright720
@Imwright720 4 года назад
There’s something magical about a diesel.
@heyitsdrew
@heyitsdrew 4 года назад
Can something like this be used to replace a tesla? does the concept work I mean? so instead of having tons of batteries you have maybe a couple and use this generator to provide the power to the motors. I would definitely try making a car work like that if I could
@ratchet951
@ratchet951 4 года назад
I made my living fixing those things. The block cracks were most likely from it over heating and cold water being put into it. The fact that it is a wet sleve engine makes it simple to repair. It would be a shame to not fix it and make it run again.
@keithnoneya
@keithnoneya 4 года назад
Nice video Mike. I love to watch you on Roads channel. Now I can watch you here too. Yep mashed both the sub and bell for ya. It's a shame that it's not easily repairable it would make someone a nice home gen or garage backup gen. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
@farmerjackson709
@farmerjackson709 4 года назад
Could you do a video with the liners out showing the damage if it’s not too much trouble
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 4 года назад
I will make a follow up if I get a chance. Thanks for watching
@davidhenley3967
@davidhenley3967 4 года назад
The bolts were made that way so you can service the engine without pulling the generator.
@lassitc
@lassitc 4 года назад
Would you entertain the idea of restoring the engine block to show us what was normally by the machinist?
@nekotherion7317
@nekotherion7317 3 года назад
Probably had coolant left in it during the winter while it was stored, intake potentially open, potentially filled the middle two cylinders n then froze n cracked the block, Not unusual if not maintained well, which almost looks to be the case..may not have even been cracked originally
@AK-ck7cy
@AK-ck7cy 4 года назад
Loved the video. Too bad that it was in bad shape. But just wanted to let you know that if you have a Fastenal around you can send parts through them really cheap. So if anyone wants the parts off that engine thats what I recommend. It's not fast but it's a great way to ship heavy parts. I have gotten a lot of hit miss engines that way. It's a great price also. Just wanted to say thanks for making the video.
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 4 года назад
Thanks for checking it out! I have used Fastenal in the past too.
@jimhaines8370
@jimhaines8370 3 года назад
on the crank there is an S with an arrow through which means it was forged by Wyman and Gordon in Harvey Illinois
@rickfess148
@rickfess148 3 года назад
Why is there engine thrust bearing wear on generators?
@stephenmitchell4393
@stephenmitchell4393 3 года назад
got the 15 kw waukesha 180 dcl . has nothing for hrs on it, no one could keep it running, I removed the machanics lead seal on the fuel intake of the injection pump, must have been a Friday ,the machanic forgot to install a spring in behind a tiny valve , the little valve would close intermitantly shutting down engine.
@angeldawnmorningstar
@angeldawnmorningstar 4 года назад
that would make a sweet generator for someone I'm sure ...maybe a short block can be found from places like KRAFTPOWER or another remanufactured outlet ...
@radracer2033
@radracer2033 4 года назад
Any updates on the Caterpillar? Can't wait to see that monster going again
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 4 года назад
Tune in next week! Thanks for watching Mike.
@craigtate5930
@craigtate5930 4 года назад
Cool lil 4 cylinder
@donquihote6023
@donquihote6023 4 года назад
I have one of these. Nice rigs. Older tho.
@joostderidder
@joostderidder 3 года назад
I wonder what happened to "crack" that engine like that. Lack of cooling? Lack of oil? Maybe a stupid idea, but couldn't you mount a modern (car)engine on this? A 4cylinder Toyota, f.i. ?
@funkinflugen
@funkinflugen 4 года назад
Mike in no way is this to be construed as derogatory, you standing behind the genset up on the workbench looks like a younger version of Keith Rucker (VintageMachinery.org) w/hair. :)
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 4 года назад
Ha no worries! Thanks for watching!
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