The ZL1 is my car, thank you for the kind comments. The Gtx actually broke after the second race. My car is a clone and I built it for pure stock. I drive it on the street and put over 1,000 miles a year on it just going to the local cruises. The car started life as a 4 speed. When I put the automatic in it, it picked up 6/10ths and 4 mph, it goes to show you that a 4 speed is tough with polyglas tires.btw, I made 24 passes in the 2 days of this race! Beat it like it owes you money.
Good for you brother not everybody enjoys them so many people near me have them in garages and I mean never take them out not even to a show I have a six pack Challenger perfect interior sure could use paint and also needs the rubber wiped off the rear quarter panels every time I take it out I let it rip at least once
@@goneshootin61 did you not pay attention to the part where he said it did have a four-speed, but this car is specifically for pure stock racing so he put the automatic transmission in place because it is quicker? and you have to run stock appearing tires. How about this, build your own ZL1 however you like.
@@mitchroberts2457 Yeah but it's not pure stock anymore when he swapped for a automatic ! Polyglas tires suck street or strip ! Probably would've been just as quick with a 4 speed and radial tires !
@@goneshootin61 You do realize the ZL1 had an automatic transmission option so you can use that according to Pure Stock rules, right? Since you obviously don't, read the video description box. And no, a 4-speed ZL1 will run SLOWER with radial tires because the 60 foot will worsen. Bias-ply are best in that situation because of the side-wall wrinkle increasing launch potential.
I’m a Chevy guy but when it comes to a 67 GTX the gentleman’s muscle car with a Hemi I’m in amazing to see this rare car out racing and giving people joy what it was meant to do.
Gotta hand it to the owners of these very expensive and rare cars drag racing them. I get a lot of enjoyment watching these videos that are done very well.
I have to respect how that full steel body Plymouth with a mass produced assembly line Hemi engine was able to run with what is a specially built experimental exotic race engine in a light pony car body Camaro. A fair head to head would have been a Hemi Dart. Love that GTX.
@@markdubois4882 actually 10.9 was the average time but it was pretty much a race ready car. Knock the zl1 camaro down to the darts weight and then we will talk.
@@Brandon_093 nice try child. The darts were a solid 10.2 with crappy rubber. Btw ...the 426 in the dart was rated at 535 go....dynoed at 609....and at 2980 pounds....decent rubber puts the Hemi darts into the 9s.
I owned a factory new 1967 GTX the same color. It had a 440ci 4 barrel 4 speed. It ran about 13.1 seconds. Wish I still had it. Still one of my all time favorites.
Thanks for these races. Absolutely awesome! That '67 Belvedere GTX is outstanding! I like the battle with '70 Road Runner. Take a Mopar to catch a Mopar;-)
@@Artificial_Dopamine Thanks for the feedback. Camaro ZL1 was made mainly as racing special (NHRA or AHRA). Only 69 pieces and super rare car. '67 Belvedere GTX is a primarily street car with a "racing engine"
@@Artificial_Dopamine If you take the GTX's fastest ET vs the ZL1's fastest, you'd see that these cars were far more evenly matched than you think. 11.94 (ZL1) vs 11.97 (GTX against the Roadrunner.)
I'm a Chevy guy and always dreamed about the ZL1 but I also love the 66-67 Hemi GTX! I'll take one of each! (thought I saw some smoke from the right tailpipe on the ZL1? )
4:56 gears in the hemi makes it almost unstreetable for daily driving. 4:10 streetable. I drove my 67' Ford F100 6'bed Stepside with a 4:11 rear everyday and on highway trips for well over 10 years. My 69' Road Runner was only running 3:23 gears.
OMG this is my favorite channel ever ! I was born in 66' and we had a 69' Dodge Coronet with the 383 2 barrel carb with the 727 Torque flite transmission and it was a great car..my parents sold it in 76' when it was getting harder to find leaded gas here in Texas,so they say..I believe they knew that car turned me into a muscle car lover forever even at the young age and knew if I got it I would be hopping it up and drag racing the **** out of it.. I went to work young at 14 and was already saving for my 1st car which was a 67' SS Camaro..man these videos are making me jones for another muscle car from the in my opinion best years ever..I ended up building the SS up and of course racing it every time I drove it..then I bought a 68' Charger with a 340 that the guy got an original 6 pack intake and carbs off I guess it was a wrecked AAR Challenger..but that car was awesome too..then more Camaros and even a big block 79' Trans Am..so damn these videos are just so awesome..I will watch every video I can find of yours and spend endless hours watching them.. Thank you for these videos !
In 1967, I ordered a Camaro with a 396/325 hp. When I went to the bank for the loan, the loan officer said they don’t loan money for hot rods. I left the bank, drove 1 mile to the Plymouth dealer, and left with a 67 GTX 440 automatic. The reason the first bank would not loan $$ for the Camaro was it had 4 speed transmission.
My first ever brand new car was a 69 Camaro. I wanted a Z but I had the same problem as you only it was with my insurance company, they wouldn’t insure anything with a 4 speed or anything considered high performance. I was only 20. I settled for a 307 3 speed. It didn’t stay a 3 speed long and I went to work on that 307.
I know I don't have the means to have that car, but if I did; driving it would be my only reason to own it and that includes what it was made for: Racing!
Absolutely love the old muscle cars. I was lucky enough to catch the late 60's and early 70's cars before the "pollution" engines took over. Nothing better than the tire burn outs and the roar of any of those muscle car engines, regardless if your a Mopar, Chevy, or Ford enthusiast ! Those were great times, glad the interest in these cars is returning!!
I was a fortunate guy to own both sorta 427ci but not a ZL1. Both cars I want back today!!! Young and stupid sold em both because of love afairs, stupid I know! The only negative thing I can think of was the seats of the GTX were like sitting on cement, and neither one were too good for mileage in 1976 (gas crunch). Didn't buy em for comfort of gas mileage! Lol!
I watch this channel a lot. It kills me that the stands are always virtually empty. When I used to go to the races in the 1960s and 1970s at raceway Park Englishtown NJ, there wasn't a empty seat. 30,000 plus people every single race day. Same thing in the 1980s when I moved to Los Angeles at Pomona and Palmdale racetracks. Standing room only. Always
Clash of the Titans! Two legendary rides...it all came down to the difference in weight..maybe a better matchup would have been a lighter Hemi 'Cuda or Challenger.The GTX still held it's own, though.. Gotta love that 429, but the Mustangs sure did get ugly in '71, imo. Thanks for posting!
I agree about the later Mustangs. They lost that pony car look and weighed more. Plus, the 428 was a better engine than the 429. I am a Mopar man so anything Hemi gets me aroused.😂
When I was a kid in the mid 80's in Topeka Kansas ... believe it or not, some Dad let his Daughter drive one of these to Topeka High ... I was it in the parking lot a few times and as I walked past it and saw the 426 Hemi badge, I stopped and couldn't believe me eyes. For the rest of my senior year I purposely walked thru the gym doors to where she parked just for another chance at seeing this car. I saw it 3 times. It was a rootbeer brown color.
All the car's in this video are damn nice, but the GTX and Road Runner just get to me. My best friend in high school back in the mid seventies owned a '70 383 pistol grip four speed Road Runner. That was a sweet car. He also owned a '69 440 Charger RT, and a factory 318 pistol grip four speed '73 Road Runner. Lucky arsehole. My ride was a seat on the school bus or if I was real good, maybe I got to drive my dad's '68 Fury on special occasions. 🙂
Gorgeous Plymouth looking like factory mint. And wow, that engine too. If I didn't know anything about engines, I'd still know that's not some regular V8. This Camaro is beautiful inside and out. To actually own a ZL1 like this would be an honor.
I think i speak for half of the comment section when i say both of these cars are beautiful icons of american automotive history, and both are badass rides that we all would love to own.
I had a 68 427 390hp vette, and raced a GTX 440 on an impromptu back road street race. fI won, but it was close thru 3 gears. When we pulled over; we were both had the hearts racing.. I was impressed with the GTX. Then the surprise. A sleeper with a Semi. If he had a four speed instead of torquflight he would have been grinning bigger.
I'm a Dodge Fan. Anyway it's not only a race about American School muscle cars. In my understanding, it's more for than that. It's an American style of life.
Goodday C & Z, That is some serious & great racing all round thoroughly enjoyed it. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤
I knew a few guys who worked with the big Hemi at the proving grounds. They said the 426 would dyno at 500 hp all day long. I have to believe the same would have to be true with the Chevrolet 427. Those Chrysler big blocks had the hole shot, but big block Chevrolets sure could make high end power.
Hemi obviously backed off at the top of the first run. Second run not so obvious, but given its 115 mph trap speed in the time trial vs. the 109 mph in the second run against the Camaro, he backed off a bit in the second run, too. Typical bracket racer strategy to do so when you're winning to avoid breaking out. Camaro still had a slightly higher trap speed, best ET's of both cars pretty much the same.
I owned a '67 GTX 426 Hemi back in the mid 70's. What a fun car, uncomfortable as hell! Think I could have put concrete blocks in for seats and been better..,......but I could beat anything I ran across on the street. But like someone else posted, I could pass anything but a gas pump, 6-9 mpg. But I liked the car.
69 Dart GTS with the 440 Magnum: 640 produced. Low 12s in the 1/4 with the tiny tires. 68 HEMI Dart: Need I say more? 10.2 in the 1/4 with the tiny tires.
Very cool video 👍 your car is a dream come true. Me I ll just have to get buy with my Z71 Silverado which has never ever lost to a Hemi Dodge truck. In fact my bicycle will pull ahead of Dodge trucks at traffic lights.
@@BuzzLOLOL That's amazing. I've seen 'stock' hemi 426 engines dyno at 490 HP @ 6000 rpm on youtube videos, with 490 lb*ft of torque at about 4500 rpm. Both awesome engines.
When people street race their cars back in the 60,s most cars did not have electronic ignitions. These engines being shown now preform the engine to its true ability with the electronic ignition. I remember listening to the misfire of the motors as they left the favorite parks they gather at in the summer and the McDonalds Restaurant at night in the old neighborhood. Those were the good old days.
I wonder how Gary is doing. It's been a few months since this video was posted so he might be 66 now. And his mom, pushing 91. Sounds like a healthy tribe there.
The chrome exhaust tips on the gtx are on wrong, they are right's and left's that point outwards. It is a real hemi gtx built in September of 1966. Very nice car that went 11.40s on Saturday, earlier Saturday and Friday hitting the brakes so he wouldn't get kick out.
On the first run I could hear the GTX spit and sputter a little bit. I wonder if he had the ignition timing a little too hot. It ran better on the second run 2/10 of a second quicker.
That GTX is badass. He is running with a specialty camaro and he is still putting up 12's. So unsuspecting. I'm a classic Ford enthusiasts but they were definitely not drag cars. High 13's is not cool. I'm a torino guy and those weren't great on the strip either.
Its unbelivable for People who not live or born in this Time. You go to the Dealer pay around 3000 Usd. and become a Street Monster with 426 HP. It must be incredible, to this time. I think no Police Car cant Catch these Cars. Perfect Movie.
