1969 BUD MOORE Boss Mustangs are BETTER than a Shelby Mustang ( PLEASE COMMENT your call ) 

Greetings BST Ford Channel, After reading many of the comments, I decided to add my two cents worth as well without being so rude and insulting because of a mistake. You mentioned being new to this snake pit know as internet blogs so you should get used to the excessive negativity because unfortunately there are certain individuals that have nothing better to do than go online and harass strangers to make up for their own miserable lives. I’ll most certainly hear from them for calling them out so I say screw the ignorant bastards ! Enough about that. I definitely enjoyed your video. My racing background is centered around drag racing but I do remember Fords involvement in Trans Am and sports car competition during the late sixties to 1970. The clip you showed a few times during the video of the Mustang in a balls to the wall move by getting sideways and using up the whole track in his successful effort to pass several slower cars was as good as it gets. It took plenty of skill to recover from getting sideways and then boldly passing the others shows the aggressive determination that’s required to be a winner. The politics of professional Motorsports can get ugly but it has always been part of the big picture. The more recent interviews with people like Shelby and Bud Moore brings the deal making and politics out into the open and helps explain why some of the unexplained or unpopular decisions concerning drivers and teams were made back in the day. In the interviews with prominent people that were so heavily involved with running the show, they have the freedom to talk about what really went down so many decades ago without fear of losing their jobs or worse. Videos like this are important to help document the history of racing. By knowing the how’s and why’s of the beginning we can better understand where we are today with an informed eye towards the future. As I mentioned previously, I enjoy Ford racing and especially if it involves Mustangs. I was still in high school in 1969 when the first Mach 1’s became available. I always kept the latest car magazines handy so I could read the different drag strip test results when they were published. In 1971 I managed to get my first Mustang. It was a ‘69 Mach 1 with the 428 Cobra Jet with ram air and for the day, it was one of the quickest and fastest production cars available. But that was right at the end of the first generation of muscle cars from Detroit. With increasing government regulations concerning smog, insurance costs going sky high and the greedy Arab OPEC countries creating intentional fuel shortages to screw the world with criminal increases in the price of crude oil, the era of performance automobiles came to a sudden end. The next couple of decades were the worst for car makers and especially for the performance car market. Fast forward to here and now. Advances in technology and automotive production have created a new generation of performance cars that can be purchased at any dealership and have opened up whole new level of mind boggling performance that would have been considered impossible back when big cubic inch torque monsters ruled the streets and tracks. Ford helped pave the way to performance with their small displacement V-8 engines featuring computer controlled variable cam timing and heavy breathing, highly efficient four cam, 32 valve cylinder heads. And that reflects back to the awesome performance delivered by the race winning Mustangs in Trans Am and SCCA competition that are featured in this video. Shelby did wonders with the performance of Fords small block “Windsor” engines in Mustangs. The designation of Windsor is used because they were produced in Fords Windsor, Ontario foundry. Ford used the name to distinguish it from their other 351 engine that was from the Cleveland, Ohio foundry. The 351 Cleveland engine became available as an option for the 1970 Mustang. But prior to that, Ford released the Boss 302 engine in a totally unique Boss 302 performance Mustang for the 1969 model year. The two different 351 engines had nothing in common other than the same cubic inch displacement and the same bore centerline dimensions. Needless to say there has been some confusion about the two different engines so to avoid it they are officially designated as 351W and 351C. The rules for Mustangs in Trans Am competition and all other cars running in the same class limited the engines displacement to 305 cubic inches. Fords small block engine family grew in displacement over the years with the most popular being the 260, 289, 302 and 351W with the most common link between them all being the cylinder heads with a inline valve arrangement. The 351W had and continues to have some success in other forms of racing but the displacement was too large for Trans Am. Ford was seriously committed to winning races in the different forms they supported during the sixties and during the last half of the decade their engineers developed an engine specifically for Trans Am competition. To be eligible for racing they had to build a minimum number of cars to be sold through dealerships to the general public. That new car was The 1969 Boss 302 Mustang. The Boss 302 engine was radically different from the 302 and 351 Windsor engines. The most obvious difference was the cylinder head design. The heads featured a canted or poly angle valve layout which placed each pair of valves in a staggered arrangement with the intake valves angled toward the intake manifold side and the exhaust valves angled toward the exhaust manifold. This allowed the engineers to use larger valves and valve angles improved the flow velocity in and out of each cylinder. The results were greater flow and improved efficiency which means more power than the limited inline valve design of the Windsor heads. The Cleveland heads had to be wider to accommodate the valve train and in order for the Boss 302 to fit between the shock towers in the engine bay of the Mustang required the engineers to make some design compromises which had a negative impact on power output. The results were very noticeable for production Boss 302 Mustangs In street trim. The engine felt sluggish at lower rpms

Hearing "Carl" Shelby over and over has given me a twitch that I may never recover from.

I was born in 67. Grew up loving and reading of 60's 70's muscle cars. Saw a few Boss 429 in car shows but never a 302. In 2012 when Boss 302 came back as a revival, I was captivated. Found a 13 Boss, in 17, and never letting it go. A true "road" car. Cheers to Ford, well done "Blue Oval" :⁠-⁠)

Love your videos about bud moore and their story. Back in 65-66 I was blinded by accident . Ford came out with the mustang and couldn't see what the mustang 🐎 looked like. I was 8 years old and drove me crazy wanting to see one. By the grace of God & a very fine DR I got it back mostly and the first thing my dad did was to take me to see the new mustang in 68. I've been in love with her ever since.

---Nice Vid, great to see Allan again. I'm an OZ and remember those great days of racing in Bathurst. As you can see by my thumbnail, i now own a 69 2+2 Sportsroof 351 W+C4. Engine rebuild underway , 60 over, sweet BluePrint heads, 750 cfm Holley, CompCams Thumpr retrofit roller, Hydraulic Rollers, Scorpion rockers, Performer RPM dual plane, Cloyes billet double timing set, DSS Forged Racing slugs... and the list goes on. Total body restoration because it's a rustbucket. Have a spare 1985 302 converted to Carb from EFI for tinkering and testing. These engines are easy to repair, pump up and start. Happy tuning mate.

Here some more information, this summarizes what I read on the subject years ago: After being screwed over, Shelby lost interest in the Ford deal by 1969. Both racing and building cars with his name on them were cancelled, as per his request. This was from an exposé in a 1969 automotive publication. Also, Ford was very adept at building performance cars by then, and didn't need his help anymore. Other Ford super-powers in the racing world had picked up where Shelby left off; e.g. Bud Moore, Holman-Moody, etc. What I recall reading in some period publications of the day, the Mercury deal was cancelled by Ford. They wanted the Mustang to win races, not so much Cougar. The Mercury team over-achieved, and it didn't make sense for them to compete against each other, so Ford cut them. The disastrous multi-car pile up at the St. Jovite Trans Am race of 3/8/1969, is what pretty much cost Ford the 1969 season. They never recovered from that. Before the 1970 season, Ford slashed their racing budget in both NASCAR and Manufacturer's Cup Trans Am series, so only 1 team for the Trans Am series continued to receive support. After the 1970 season the only racing they continued to support, was a couple of classes in drag racing.

Excellent content. As an owner of a 1970 Boss 302 I really appreciate your effort.

I remember seeing Alan Moffat race the Coke Mustang in Adelaide South Australia, still sends shivers down my spine. What a beautiful weapon it was/is still.

That out of control overtaking move at 2:40, plus repeats!

This was such good content. Very interesting historical perspective. Love to see the Aussie falcon race car test in Michigan 👍👍🏁

From a 60 yr old Maverick enthusiast, best regards with your build.

Had a 64 galaxy w/ the 390 and that car ran amazing, beat the hell out of it in my 20s.

Shelby could have been competitive, especially coming off of the Cobra Daytona and GT 40 programs and their famous successes. But I think he was tired of the mad scramble, the corporate wrangling and herding of cats, and he needed a break from it - and his heart condition didn't help matters one bit. I think it's fortunate that he bowed out, because all of the pressure of a new race team with the expectation of classic Shelby victories very well could have killed him.

Dick Johnson ran that little green Mustang for two years at Bathurst for a 4th placing and 7th placing; quite impressive for a privateer running against factory teams in such a gruelling race.

This is a perfect example of why family business is very rarely run past two generations. Shelby is a God!

Love the channel, Blue Oval all day.

Love the 69 fastback/sportsroof body. I had a 69 with rare option vinyl top. My father has it and did a complete restoration.

Great job. Carroll for a guy is not natural. Great video, it's about the cars and racing history. Carl sounds better anyway. 😂

That footage of the wild and crazy pass on the inside heading into the corner was incredible! I really enjoy the vintage "skunk works" stories between rival manufacturers and teams. Cutting edge developments going on at a furious pace. Thanks for posting this!

I vintaged raced a 1967 Mercury Cougar for eight years. It ran on the West Coast (professionally) for a few years in 1967-1968. When I restored it for vintage racing (in the early 90's) it still had the tunnelport 302 in it. It ran pretty strong for a stock (circa 1967) motor, but it was fraught with engine flaws. After a few years I noticed most of the "vintage" cars became mush faster as everyone was building cheater motors. It just became too expensive so I sold the Cougar. It sure was fun to drive. Bud Moore certainly did a great job with the cougar and basically lost the 1967 season on the last race of the season to the Mustang. Bud Moore made a great move and tuned the Boss 302 to perfection in the next few years.

Never understood why the 302 instead of 427 in that NASCAR Stang. They did build one Shelby 427 GT/500 for the public called the Super Snake. Most GT/500 came with a mild 428. Started my Crown Vic front assembly swap into my 1972 F100 Short Bed last week. Pulled the FE360 and C6, entire doghouse in 2 days. Removed the twin I-beam and cut the cross member day 3. Took 2 days to box the frame and hook up the Crown Vic. Still working on steering today. Fe will go back in with new Performer RPM intake and Performer 600 carb. Will get an MSD ignition upgrade also. Had to fix the truck before I can start my Maverick project. Dammit!

As a youngster I always loved watching Bathurst and watched all of Alan Moffat's wins. The races between him and Peter Brock were just awesome.

Excellent work on this. I have owned 3 Mustangs and 1 Comet. I raced one Mustang for 5 years. I learned a lot watching this video. Thank you 👍

I like it when you do high lights on Mercury. It was like nobody cared when they got the axe.

Hey man, thanks for including the Australian connection in your videos. Dick Johnson and Allan Moffat are racing royalty down here.

Bud Moore was a master mechanic, engineer, and car builder. He had tremendous success in NASCAR and Trans Am racing. As a kid growing up in the sixties and seventies in Spartanburg SC , I remember riding past his shop on numerous occasions and seeing many cool cars in the parking lot , including one of these 1970 Trans am Mustangs

Looking forward to seeing the 302 in its home in the maverick

Great video thanks for sharing. I love watching and learning about Ford racing history.

No mention of Dan Gurney or the Boss 302 in the Cougar Eliminator.

Hi BST Ford Channel - A few comments, Semon Knudsen was a legacy at GM, his father William Knudsen was a brilliant WW II three-star General (logistic - not combat) responsible for war production and had been the president of GM. His son Semon, a innovative MIT graduate engineer was "groomed" for the GM presidency but was "passed-over". Henry Ford II "harvested" him in 1968. Meanwhile at Ford, Lee Iaccoca was in line for Ford's presidency, he was also a genial engineer from Princeton, a "devout" and loyal Ford man, a former "protégé" of Ford's former president, Robert McNamara (before he became the Secretary of Defense). Iaccoca was a star at Ford (and a friend of Carroll Shelby), he knew Ford Motor Company inside-out, brought "new blood" at Ford, the Mustang being his (and Don Frey's) most famous creations but there were others. Knudsen's hiring was a huge blow to "Ford-Blue Iaccoca" and conflicts erupted in the executive part of the company. Shelby was losing control of his modified Mustangs GT-350/500s (his main income) as his "Shelby" Mustang production was moved from Shelby Enterprises to Ford in 1969 where Shelby had little if any inputs. By 1969, Chevrolet was really catching up (and beating Ford with the Z-28s' 302 built from the 327 Chevrolet engine). By 1968, the 289 was obsolete and replaced by the 302 (the SAAC Trans-Am engine limit was 5 Liters i.e. 305). The '68 302 Tunnel Port failed and was replaced by a new design the 302 "Boss" which had modified 351 Cleveland heads. Racing was becoming more scientifically complex and expensive - hence Ford went with Kar Kraft and Bud Moore who would receive all the new goodies from Ford and modified them with the backing of the company's top engineers behind. Cougars being heavier/longer and directed at the "wealthier" sports markets were not as competitive. There was also the feeling that fielding several teams could lead to scarcity of parts, added expenses, and crashes (think about the Circuit Mont-Tremblant, Saint Jovite, Quebec 1969 crash where the Shelby-prepared cars crashed with the Bud Moore-built ones). Bud Moore benefited from the full Ford engineering support, including a few not-so-legal tricks of the trade. The 1969-70 Bud Moore Trans-Am Mustangs are true race cars (roll bars, full-floating rear axle, modified 302 Boss, all-wheel disc brakes, differential cooler, etc...). I lived that era and did my internship at Ford in the summer. Ciao, L

A legend is born...the 302. It was made to maximize the allowed displacement for Trans Am racing, and built as the Boss 302 for homologation purposes. Since it was a Windsor block engine, Ford just kept going with it. Even in the late 1970's, with the 302, you were just a good manifold and carburetor away from a good engine! Contrast that with the 305 that GM was putting in everything...an engine that was always crippled by small valves and heads with no intake flow due to the way the heads were ported from the factory.

What are humble Legend rest in peace Shelby

Love your videos man. You can really get a feel for your passion as you narrate- Keep up the great work!

It's a shame that we did not embrace SCCA racing, because I feel we lost out on the opportunity to have muscle and pony cars with lower profile, wide tires. The only exception from that era was the Mustang GT in Bullitt. Heck, we embraced NASCAR, and those large beasts had wide wheels and tires all around for handling, but it didn't translate to the showroom.

“Carl” really?! Imma head out.

I also believe Bud Moore also used several Mercurys on NASCAR back in the day...

Really enjoyed this, thank you! Those OHV race small blocks were impressive even today💪💪😎🇺🇸

I loved the styling of the 69 Mustangs and the racers were sexy!

That Alan Moffat 69 Mustang is pure magic.

You got to love the Australian people they are awesome love the video keep up the good work man

Because the Cougar and Mustang points were separated. Switch Bud Moore to Mustang and win a manufacturer championship.

Bud brought home the championship for ford that is what counts for me.

Good job my friend , this would be a great documentary on any network. This is my favorite time in history had a 70 mach 1 myself in the day 351 shelby springs and sway bars and konie shocks from Meier racing there still in business to this day . Used to it eat up corvettes with that car . The maverick should be fantastic try to lose th mandated bumpers some how it'll help it change direction quicker . God bless you

Keep up the good videos and I am just waiting to see what's going on with the Maverick you got me motivated again and many others. Way to go

By '68 Ford was taking the GT 350-500 away from Shelby. Moore ran the Cougar for Mercury who basically slipped it by Henry II who was so caught up in the politics. Iacooca SHOULD have gotten the position Bunkie got but he had such a great run at GM, who screwed him over, II handed him the keys to the kingdom. Basically Henry did to Iacooca what GM did to Bunkie. As for Bud, you're talking about a solid foundation in NASCAR, which was it's actual Namesake at the time, with a winning record. A team that's already familiar with the equipment, remember, Mercury belonged to Ford and ran the same 302, it was a no brainier.

Love the Mustang and Ford/Mercury racing!

The picture @ 1:23 of the Bud Moore Cougar, was taken at Carlisle Pa. during Ford Nationals.

I’ve been into Fords since around 1979. Well done.

That was really cool, thanks for posting this! I have never seen that bit with Moffat in his Falcon, that was awesome!

My dad was AS National Champion in 1979 in Boss 302 Mustang. Road Atlanta. I was there too! He used Bud Moore engines. This video brings back lots of memories.

I love to see videos on this iconic Mustang. I own a 2013 Boss302 ,the last true muscle car mustang. It’s great the you keeping a legend alive. Please do a proper video of the 12-13 Boss 302.

For me Bud Moore's #21 in NASCAR was hell of a fast cars for years, decades :)

Back in 1977, I bought a used '70 Boss 302 for $500 bucks!!

Bud Moore must have had a similar deal as the Wood Brothers had with FoMoCo in NASCAR back in the day..

Sounded great even in 69-70s.

Look at the setback they achieved with the engine and transmission at about 8:30 The front edge of the engine block is at or behind the front edges of the tire, it's about 2 feet back from the nose and bumper ! Guess that helped weight distribution a LOT for improved handling.

I had an odd Mustang. It was a 69 1/2 Mach 1 Super Cobra jet with the GT package Black with red interior . I was the second owner after it was repossessed by the bank . The original owner actually tried to back over the repo guy. I brought it to a dealer who said everything was original and had every option available. I had a council that had belt holders,a red and blue light that came on when the brakes were touched, arm glove box ash tray and lighted oil and amp gauge. It had two horses in the grill . It also had AM FM stereo with 8 track player . It was a stick with low gears . Top speed about 115. Nice because I'm a driver and not a motor head, but I could drive and I pushed the car to the absolute limit and to the point of risking my life and I didn't care what I did to it. I put it into a full spin at about 90 and topping it running a Porsche Carrera I lifted it full air and it chirped three times before it straightened out. I just had to do what McQueen did . I know why he has a small block to switch from the big block. Handling ❓ with the 428 ❓ No . There were things I liked about the car but not the front end anchor ,and I crushed many oil pans. It was reliable though and learning to skip second gear I could get it to move but not turn without hammering the discs. I learned the hard way that the best motors in the Mustangs had to be the small blocks and McQueen realized that in Bullet . 😎

This is GREAT VIDEO. can not wait for the comments

Bunkie Knudsen also enlisted the help of Smokey Yunick to develop a Cleveland for Indy car racing... needless to say it didn't get finished because Bunkie got fired and the idea was scrapped. One of the prototype engines that Smokey was working on is in a museum in Tennessee... talk about crazy valve angles !...it is the only known survivor of the program....ahh ...what might have been ?!...at least the owner kept it like it should be... unlike the guy who bought the only Chrysler ball stud hemi to exist.....and hacked it !... alright I started ranting ! Great video and story !

Great video Bud Moore was a veteran racer and built some impressive engines that kicked ass and it hurt some competition and it follows on today.The boss motor was something else in motor racing here in touring cars up to V8 Supercars here in Australia 🇦🇺 Now Allan Moffatt Ford Mustang I got a the chance to sit in it at a race meeting due the Targa Tasmania as Fellow ford race car driver Dick Johnson’s 1980 Ford Falcon Nic named tru-blue awesome history,302 boss build for the Maverick I’m picturing it brother but focus on this boss great job man I admire your drive from Noosa Australia 🇦🇺

Hands down? A independent 66 Dart placed 3rd in points the first season.

Nice thanks for bringing up the falcons . Allan's falcons an xb gt love it that's the year I was born sweet man sweet love what you do.

Just had to mention that Carroll Shelby DID run trans am mustangs in 1969. Ford had TWO two-car teams, one run by Bud Moore, the other run by Shelby. Moore cars were orange, Shelby cars were blue. As to why Lincoln Mercury didn’t field a 68 cougar team, it was because they were TOO successful in 67. Ford didn’t mind Mercury coming in second, but they sure as hell weren’t going to have Cougars beating their cash-cow Mustangs for the championship in 68.

Thanks, He had some epic battles with Peter Brock in a Holden. But they always raced very close and never touched each other. The respect they had for each other was enormous and it was some of the closest racing ever, watch it if you can, an education in respect and hard racing.

listening to this brought ban wonderful memories, I was at the race (7 or 8 years old with 2 mechanics from the UK, my mother's cousin John Leyland and his life ling friend Jimmy Griffin) at Sears Point and I remember the chatter about the tires, Jones was breaking track record after track record after track record only to pit the following lap because the tires were bad...my introduction to car racing and I was a fan ever since...remember the dry spell Ford had?...I was at Sear Point when Tom Gloy took the glory back in a Mustang...then it was T-Birds...then Merkurs...but I never saw the Rousch Cougars that did really well...loved Sears Point, even my wife loved going there with me...

Good to hear from you. Your knowledge has sure helped me with my beloved Crown Vic Interceptor. Keep on giving us great videos.

Yeah Shelby put the Mustang over camarones and corvettes, but the Boss 302, Boss 428, 429 and 429 cobra jet are awesome.

The Cougar was an identical chassis to the Mustang. Same parts under the skin, both inherited from the Falcon. The game-changer was the mighty, free-breathing, high-revving Cleveland cylinder head. Shelby/Bud Moore comparison is moot.

Good topic..i think shelby won out..i mean shelby stangs are considered top of the model..boss is 2nd and sometimes 3rd ..best ford channel..

We have a 1967 cougar it is awesome! Worked on it for many years and was able to drive it to college for a couple weeks. Made some people mad because of the noise! All of the videos of the trans am cougars were great! Dan Gurney drove one too!

hi everyone yes I'm late :-) ok but they forgot one thing pertaining to Shelby' s GT 350 AND GT500 the only reason they came about in the first place Henry Ford 2 went to S.C.C.A. wanting to race the mustang they told no it's not a sport's car that pissed Henry Ford off so he went to Carol Shelby and told him I don't care what you have to do I want the Mustang to race in the S.C.C.A. racing so Carol Shelby went to the S.C.C.A. and asked them what he have to do they told to take out the back seat and some other thing's so it could be races in the S.C.C.A. and it got named the G.T.350 then G.T.500 that why he wasn't in to it Henry Ford 2 dump it on him because Henry wanted to race in the S.C.C.A. which was started by and for the people in southern California with MG's Jag' s Porsh etc. for a way to race there car's :-)

As an Australian motorsports fanatic, I've never seen the footage of moffat with his falcon coupe in the states. Cheers for this, very cool. Its intresting that without the great shelby, mustangs would've never done well in australian racing. And without him leaving the ford stables and craftcar coming in with the boss, then moffat might never have made it big here. Anyways, you want a good ford racing story to folllw up on mate? In Australia we used to have a near production based ute racing series commonly known as thr "brute utes" or the "v8 utes" Anyways, when the coyote made it to our shores in supercharged miami form, the ford ute teams wanted to keep running production engines but couldn't have forced induction. So the sieders racing team went over the the states and organised coyotes to be built for the utes and eventually had a few ready for the season opener at Adelaide in i think 2011. The coyote upgrade was so damn good that every 5.0 powered falcon ute just outright dominated the first two race weekends. The holden boys with their ls3's i think just had nothing on them and the category was forced to have both engine brands be built and sealed to be near equal performance by a fella in brisbane.

The yellow Boss 302 is a 1970, single headlights, no fake scoop on quarters

Keep on killin it! Good job.

Don't forget that a few years after Lee Iacocca took over Chrysler he and Carroll Shelby reunited and built Shelby Versions of the Charger, Omni and Dakota...

They’re all beautiful! I consider them art!

It's puzzling that the narrator references the 1969 season, but illustrates that word with the 1970 Mustangs in the shade of color orange they were for the 1970 season.

I'm surprised that you mentioned AM and his Mustang that raced in the Australian Touring Car Championship, and even more surprised with Dick Johnson's "Greens Tuff" Fox body Grp A Mustang showing up at the end. Maybe this could be a future video subject for you?. Mustang and it's international racing career. Btw the first Touring Car race won by a Mustang happened in Australia in the hands of Ian (Pete) Geohagen in his white 65 GTA.

Awesome video ! Keep them coming !!!

Awesome channel great video brother!

The Deuce constantly fought with Iacocca, and he held God's own grudges against everyone Iacocca was friends with. This explains the later relationships of Shelby and DeTomaso at Chrysler. Iacocca could find markets and get mileage from no resources better than any executive in Detroit for 30 years. When the Mustang was born it was the best marketing tool on wheels, even if a Falcon/Fairlane platform mashup didn't have the best handling, and the 289 was a bit short on power. 15 years later, Iacocca goes to Henry Ford II and tells him he has a great idea for the Fox platform. The Deuce says "I hope your new employer likes it," but probably not as nicely. This is why the Minivan was known as a Chrysler invention instead of Ford. Shelby was loyal to Iacocca, stayed out of the racing program after Dearborn kept undercutting him on the GT 40, and Ford had to skate talent from GM. Knudsen only came over so Ford could get Shinoda (IMHO).

I have a 68 cougar, I used to have my father's 1970 Mustang Super 428 Cobra Jet with AC Cobra 427 block but divorce cost me that it only has 706 original miles on it

Nicely Made my friend

That is why they call it The Boss.

Just so you know, Allen Moffat is Canadian

There would be no Boss Mustang without Carol Shelby. The Mustang would have stayed a secretaries car. If Shelby had continued with his original guys they would have whooped Bud Moore's team. In fact they beat the Bud Moore Cougar team in 1969. Also worth mentioning is Bud Moore used some Shelby parts in his Cougars.

EXCELLENT AND OBVIOUSLY SO. More engine sound with shifts in the next ones, please? Also, do you agree or disagree that slothomatic transmission is a blight on all that's mechanical ?

what is not mentioned is that in 69 there were TWO boss 302 mustang teams. Shelby and Bud Moore. Shelby cars were Blue with white stripes and Bud Moore red white and blue

I have a 1970 boss 302 cougar Eliminator it is one potent motor.

Excellent Video! You are a very wise, and insightful fellow! This video has helped me with some pending decisions, on very valuable collection. Cheers, Mate!

man your content is awesome!!!!!!!!! my U tube Ford Brother

Have you done a video on the American iron road race series between the fox body mustangs and the 3rd gen Camaro ?

Hi.i just wanted to say that the car at the end of video is a torino instead of falcon. Thanks love the video

It's not so lonely at the top. Everyone is heading your way with the intent of knocking you off and taking your place. Was Shelby feeling like that? Who knows? Bud Moore was a serious player so Shelby would have had his hands full. Knudsen coming from GM with the full story on the Camaro was a huge boon to Ford but a bane to Iaccoca. Ford proved that they could win races so it was a bitter disappointment that they dropped out of racing in '73. So, what did Moore do after the Mustang?

I love me some "Carl Shelby"!!!😍

Does this guy keep calling him "Carl* Shelby? 🙄

Shelby never wanted to race Trans Am he knew it wasn't gonna last he's on the record saying so.

ford straight up didn't want anything to outsell the mustang. the maverick and comet were sister cars and only the comet came with the 302 h.o. and it was never ever let out to the public. the comet also had all the bells and whistles they could throw at it. 1971 comet you could get a 302 air heat disc brakes power windows. im not sure if the 4 speed was available or not. they was nicer built and fast as any mustang v8. but they got zero adds for them

You are comparing apples to oranges , technology was advancing and Moore had better engines in the 69-70 years. 70 was also the pinnacle of classic mustang performance . You cannot compare what Moore did with newer stuff to Shelby running older stuff.......

The Mustang sales had dropped significantly. Ford didn't want the Cougar to take anymore sales than needed. Carroll Shelby said that when Ford introduced the "Mach1", it was over for his Shelby Enterprise race program. The "Mach1", Cougar "Eliminators" and as far as I know, the Boss 302 and 429, were much cheaper than the GT350 &GT500.Neither the 69 GT350 or GT500 were equipped with the "Boss" engines. Carroll Shelby also noted in 1967-1968? , that the Federal Government was going to eraticate the horse power wars with smog equipment. It's important to remember the Legacy Carroll Shelby and his team have left us. :)