That’s some TIGHT racing! Both great cars and great engines, that were underrated for HP from the factory. Thanks to the drivers and you for the great content. ~ Chuck 🌮 🌮
Awesome race zebra but I heard something pop in that cougar sounded like a rear end or transmission thanks to both car owners for bringing these classic automobiles hope it wasn’t too serious.
Hey Cars and Zebras! Michigan native here, grew up in Pontiac not too far from Woodward Ave. where my dad would always race his firebirds! He had a 1968 firebird 400 black with a hood cut out for a working white trans am air cleaner he added later on. Had a 4 speed Muncie transmission and 4/11 posi. trac. I miss that car, he sold it when we moved to California along with his 69 350 champagne metallic and 73 Formula 350 metallic burgundy. Love your videos man please keep em coming
Another great Video, in my community a neighbor had a 71 Pontiac LeMans , Custom with the 455, he would not race my Car a 1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1 Drop top 4 Speed as the king of Torque lives under the hood. Please keep the great Videos coming.
Both cars are awesome a rare excellent example of mercury muscle and a ram air goat complete with audible quadrajet roar from the secondaries ( insert Homer Simpson drool sequence) great video cnz
Buddy of mines uncle had an orange and black Eliminator. It was somewhat of a legend around the small town we lived in. I had a 67 Fairlane GT i hotrodded around with during high school and a couple years after.. He always talked down to me like my car was slow but his was blown up for years and he finally sold it so we never raced. I guess that means I WIN! However i would have loved to have had his car. I always thought it was beautiful and rare.
I had both a '65 and a '66 Goat. 389's in both. Put a tri-power on the '66 and had a lot of fun with it back in the 1970's. That said, with the GTO a little sluggish out of the gate, but with great finishing ability... I fully expected the Cougar to take all 3 runs. MUST have been an issue with it. Thanks. I enjoyed the trip into the past.
Awesome how the goat walked him down in 4th that’s a lot like how my RA III Formula 400 did a buddy’s 79 TA with stock LS1 and aod trans. I had 3.42 gears and he had 3.27 I think it was it was less gear then me may be 3.23. His trans had a much lower 1st gear than my TH 400 so that made up for the gear and then some. We had identical 60’ times but as we shifted 2nd I passed him where he got me out of the hole by half a then tenth or three quarters of a tenth but it was half a car either way. Then it got sorta even through 2nd where the LS1 sweet spot seemed to be but when we shifted drive I walked slowly away. I did 13.50@104 and he did 13.76@102 It’s a neat race for comparison sake Pontiac 400 vs LS1 in pretty much the same cars same day same run. Keep in mind if you watch my video my formula is indeed a 1971 if you look at the fenders you will see the luvers but it has #48 heads and 068 cam. That combination works well. It will fly past 5k rpm to 6k quicker than my 94Z with M6 both in 1st gear. I like shifting the formula at about 5800 into 2nd and around 5200 into drive. Stretching it out further in 2nd gear slows it down by about a tenth. Hope ya had a good read and a great day guys n gals. ✌🏼
Good day C & Z, I don't mind having a GTO ( Good Time Orgasim ) with a old skool Couger every now & then especially in the 69 model. He he he 😅 Cheers Louis Kats your number 1 Fan in Australia 🙂👍🇦🇺🇺🇸
Great channel! I just subscribed! I had a ‘68 Chevelle SS with a number’s matching 396, 4-speed, with 18k ORIGINAL miles, and I wrecked it racing some other kid in a ‘69 Firebird 400. (I blew his doors off BUT, having had 11 margaritas-it was Chi Chi’s Tuesday night Margaritaville Night-I didn’t notice the kid pulling out in front of me on the busy, 6-lane divided highway, in his little 2-door Fiat.) Turned my wheel just enough to keep from broadsiding him (I was doing about 60 in 2nd gear) and I spun him right into the Firebird’s lane and all 3 of us did multiple 360’s before coming to a stop! Thankfully, nobody was hurt, and the police officer’s first words to me as he got to my window were “That’s a shame. What year is she?” (Hand to God honest truth) His FINAL words to me were “Look, I know you’re drunk as a fish so if you don’t argue with me about getting it towed, I will drop you off and we’ll call it a night. I figure you’ve been punished enough.” (This was 1984) Last time I EVER drove with ANY alcohol in my system. 😂 I guess it’s a lesson hard-learned but I miss that car to this day. I paid 3500.00 bucks for it and it even came with a completely perfect 1970 454 motor that had been “upgraded” with a Holley carb and was “rated” at 450 HP and 500 pound-feet of torque. I believe if I’d have done what all my buddies told me to do-garage it-it might be worth more than my 3500 dollar initial investment? 🤷🏻🦧🥹
My neighbor had a 67 Cougar blue with blue metallic interior 289 . I use to love that car & I am a Pontiac man but that car was beautiful I love the 289.
Battle of the Hide Aways !! My brother had a 68 GTO 400, RamAir II, Hurst Dule Gate(his & hers)shifter. Mayfair Maize(like a pale yellow) black vinyl top. It was a Beautiful car !! Now that 366hp for the GTO's was easily upped to over 400 with a couple carb & timing tricks!! It was an 12sec car on stickers !! PMDTTF !! 🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸
Both car's are sweet ride's, thanks to the owners that raced them 👍 up to both of you, it's a lot of work getting everything ready to race, and thanks for the video CZ
Gonna have to send this one to my dad, he's a Ford guy and I'm a Pontiac guy, and we have these same engines although both 4 speed cars. 1969 Mustang fastback and 1971 Firebird (engine is swapped, was originally a 350 car)
THESE CARS WERE VERY EVENLY MATCHED .... BOTH ARE DESIRABLE .... ALWAYS THOUGHT THOSE COUGARS WERE OVERLOOKED TOO MUCH .... DECENT TIMES ... GOOD SHOWING
I love 60's cars. However, my daily driver is a 4 door 2018 Buick Regal Sportback 2.0 L Turbo (preferred II trim / Canadian base trim ) making only 250 advertised HP. I ran the 1/4 mile exactly the way I brought it home brand new from the dealer and twice it ran 14.3 @ 96 mph. Crazy how good our new cars are nowadays.
Another great video. Cougars are great. The GTO was good too😂 if you left out the funny parts it might sound like that teacher in ferris buelers day off.
The Pontiac gave up 28 cubic inches and weighed 205 pounds more and it still covered the Ford by a couple of MPH. A true apples to apples comparison would have been a Ram Air 4 vs a 428 CJ but why even bother when a RA3 can get it done.
I remember the days where I felt that anything beyond a 10 second run was boring and not worth watching. Must be getting older because I really appreciate seeing these cars run...sometimes more than the sub 10 second runs.
The 428 Cobra Jet is probably the best Ford performance engine of the 60s but that's not saying much compared to its competitors like the Chrysler 426 Hemi 440 six pack 427 and 454 Chevys and 455 engines from Buick and Oldsmobile. Even this base Ram Air 3 Pontiac 400 gave it a tough time. If it was a Pontiac Ram Air 4 version this wouldn't be a close race at all. Yeah Fords of the classic muscle car era never really impressed me that much.
If you think the 428 CJ was Fords Best Performance Engine from the Muscle Car era, you obviously have no clue about Fords, does the 427 SOHC ring a bell ? Boss 351,s Boss 429,s along with the 429 SCJ Drag Pack cars, C'mon man the 428 CJ was a Good Street Engine, no were near Fords Best.
That was a tight match till the end, thanks for sharing... With those specs so close I figured it might come down to driver error or mechanical failure, any chance we can get a follow up on the Cougar?
so the car with the lower number at the top of the timer at the finish line is the winner? I've never been to one of these before and i have getting a little confused because sometimes the car that passes the finish line second has been called the winner?
Cars and zebras... !!! You son of a bitch...!!! You did it again... !!! Very informative and humorous as always... The haters and trolls can find another channel..
That GTO was most definitely having trouble getting off the line, for whatever reason? More than likely it was driver error, or lack of experience. But had he been able to get off the line like the Cougar did, it wouldn't have been close at all, because the GTO was playing catch-up every round and coming on strong at the end each time. Those mid 1960's thru 1971' Muscle Cars were the best era ever! We'd drive them to school each day, and then race them at night.
If the best reaction time wins then why race the whole 1/4 mile? Shouldn't the race be over after 50 feet??? If the best reaction time counts toward a win then maybe the best burn-out should be counted as a win over the best reaction time.
