1980 BMW E23 735i Review - The Saloon with a Supercar Heart... and a MANUAL!

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If you want an old school BMW, chances are you have in mind an E30 3 series - and why not? They look great, sound amazing and handle nicely. But the rest of the world knows that now, so they're no longer cheap.
How about something which when new was more expensive, but is now actually the bargain? Something like this epic 7-series... one of the few with a manual gearbox, and paired to a BMW great!
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I met this beast in 2006, but in even more extreme form - as a 745i. It was a 3.2 litre with a factory turbo and an intercooler. It was in possession of my service manager, when I ran the BMW dealership. The level of comfort on those wide seats and balloon tyres was exceptional.

@jtreut Год назад

You beat me to the 745i comment. This is the one for J to get!

@gordonsimpson3235 Год назад

@@jtreut Great machine 745i, but LHD only

@capoislamort1613 Год назад

@@jtreut I second that! The 745i is the must have. The Ecu can be moded to increase the horse power into 300-500 HP conservatively with stock internals. Been a proud owner since 2006. Cheers!🥂👊🏿🎩

@StuartOliver83 Год назад

Can’t believe I turned down an alpina manual one of these for £1500 20 years ago I kick myself every now and then for it,the smell of the interior is etched in my nostrils it’s exquisite

@richardharrold9736 Год назад

As you note at the end of this video, the E23 that really had a supercar heart was the South African market 745i - full M1 spec M88 twin-cam 24-valve engine with a manual. It even went racing - it looks comically huge and menacing on track compared to the Capris and stuff it was up against. The reason this car came into being was that BMW South Africa wanted a model with the performance of the European 745i - but as that was turbocharged, the turbo went where the steering column is on RHD cars. So South Africa just did as it often does and came up with their own local hot-rod! Other examples of South Africa doing its own damn thing were the Vauxhall FD Victor where they decided it needed a V8, and unlike the Gordon-Keeble Black Prince version here in the UK (of which only one was ever built - it existed until quite recently when it got broken up as a donor for a Cobra kit car), they didn't even use a GM engine but a Chrysler lump! Then there was Basil Green shoving V6s in Cortinas and V8s in Capris, Sierras and Granadas (leading Ford to market the Sierra XR8 there)... and for some reason their Rover SD1 2600 used the BMC E-series instead of the Canley lump everyone else got!

@5555petros Год назад

I always loved the idea of racecar choices that came off the beaten path and out of left field.

@richardharrold9736 Год назад

@@5555petros yep, and all because the Euro 745i's turbo motor couldn't go in a RHD chassis (the turbo and steering column went in the same place). It was pretty successful too!

@5555petros Год назад

@@richardharrold9736 Perfect companion to the Aussie 635CSi E24 race car.

@richardharrold9736 Год назад

@@5555petros heck of a lot bigger than the E24 though. Those are E12/E28 5-series platforms with a chunk of wheelbase chopped out.

@Eksistenssi Год назад

Heck even here in automotive naziland of finland we had to use the south african models and their spec sheet as a legal reference of what is allowed to be fitted in. (the few oddball ones from smaller manufacturers weren't allowed as reference because of another stupid restriction of required production amount of atleast 500). Some blokes had to import the "official spec sheet" from BMW SA, i can't imagine how hard that must have been in the early days of internet at around millenium's end.

@cj9852 Год назад

Te fact that the car is the same length as a modern 3 series and slightly narrower just shows why the roads are so crowded and less space.

@tastypymp1287 Год назад

Nah, that's more to do with money printers going brrrrrrrrr with cheap cash for the prollies....

@Tipo107 Год назад

Really great to see my old car again 😀, I spent many hours restoring it back to its former glory. It does drive well, super rare in manual configuration!

@gordonsimpson3235 Год назад

I used to sell these new when running a BMW garage in the 80's. Great long distance load haulers. I bought one back from a customer who had specc'd and bought new from me, for personal use. It was a Sapphire Blue 735i SE (with all the extras as standard - A/C, On board computer, Headlamp wash/wipe, TRX wheels/tyres, Rear Headrests, Sunroof, Cruise control, Electric seats etc.) It WAS a manual as per your test and also had a Limited Slip Diff. Very rare spec. Honestly, the car shrank around you with use, and didn't feel big (other than its capacity to take huge amounts of luggage and four people in luxury). A totally underrated car. I used to hurl the car around the Norfolk lanes like a 3 series....amazing car. Your mate may need to give the old girl a little top-end attention, she is blowing some blue smoke. But otherwise an excellent and unusual choice. I doubt that there are many left today.

@ianjenkins4641 Год назад

Yeah looks like valve stem seals to me

@toooldclassics Год назад

I completely agree. Although I don't miss the premium I used to pay in the early '90s for TRX tyres. The one aspect that used to let down my E28 M535i - Michelin TRX tyres in the wet..

@tomy8450 Год назад

The BMW stylist Hans Muth told a group of us during a lunchtime discussion at the 40th anniversary celebration of the BMW R80GS that he and a couple other design team members stayed over a weekend one August when most BMW employees were on summer holiday to design the interior and dashboard of this first 7 series, finishing it in basically 2 days! He was responsible for the M logo (which he said was a paint swish of Texaco red, the sponsor at the time, next to Bavarian blue, leaving the purple where they mix), and the styling of the GS motorcycle which was partially inspired by the new at the time Range Rover.

@ConnorFGuitar Год назад

Of all the many cars you've driven James, this is one of the ones I *want* the most.

@lrs3 Год назад

I never knew these were made in manuals. I really, really need one now. The epitome of class.

@cwang6951 Год назад

Love the angled kidney grille in that design, quite iconic.

@JamesSmith-qs4hx Год назад

I agree - I wonder what all the Africans coming to Britain will make of it in years to come.

@johang7498 Год назад

Infinitely cooler than anything BMW makes today, that's not that difficult, is it? To me, the 1960s to 80s will always remain BMWs peak years, when they were the brand of fast and stylish (in understated German fashion, though initially triggered by Italian designer Michelotti) sports saloons and coupés. This 7-series is no exception to that, because what a handsome and comfortable car it is! Exactly what a big BMW saloon is supposed to be; wouldn't mind owning one at all.

@yuglesstube Год назад

Also MB

@edtheduck6219 Год назад

The first BMW I ever drove was an E30 320i; it would definitely oversteer but that 6 cylinder engine was so smooth compared with anything else I’d ever been in. Whipped cream seemed rough in comparison. Amazing that the original 7-series is smaller than a current 3-series. It probably weighs less as well, which is why “only” 220bhp is good enough.

@JohnAdams-kc8wx Год назад

100% sir

@Dave-in-France Год назад

Hi Jay, You were obviously having a really good time with this car ! I did notice it is burning a drop of oil - specifically when you throttle it, not valve stem on over-run oil.

@jamesrobert4106 Год назад

I noticed the blue smoke. Glad you saw it too.

@paulking54 Год назад

Yep, bit blue when you put your foot down!

@jgg02 Год назад

This is brilliant, way more entertaining and interesting than the testing of pointless hypercars

@nickhigginsonmusic Год назад

A friend of mine had one of these in the late 90’s. An orange one. Cruising through Blackpool in our late teens we felt cool as hell 😂 (it was an auto though if I remember correctly)

@alphaomega5721 Год назад

A friend of mine had a 333i ( a unique South African homologation) that as soon as it arrived, he removed the 3.2 engine and installed a brand new 3.5 crate engine. That car now lives in Portugal.

@FoxSpeedshop Год назад

I had an e23 728i for years, still miss that car

@craigyirush3492 Год назад

Wonderful review. Shame we can’t have a modern version of this car (instead of the bloated, numb, successors to this car).

@joeseeking3572 Год назад

I STILL like these and would put out money for one in good shape. Unfortunatley in the US a stickshift is rare as hen's teeth, and I've never found one in good enough condition / reasonable distance to buy. The 7 has long since gotten too big for me (my 5 is bigger than I'd like), but these are sweet cars. I'd also consider the 745i in auto with the buffalo hides, just to be obscure.

@danentwisle8885 Год назад

From an age when BMWs were beautiful. As a kid there was a gorgeous black Alpina E23 in the next road to me. A striking car. What the hell was that Discovery driver thinking?

@Storm.Z.4u Год назад

Discovery drivers are always idiots, and they always have issues, a common one being that they are angry that they can't afford a Range Rover so drive a Discovery.

@danentwisle8885 Год назад

@@Storm.Z.4u Ah right. I wondered where all my anger went. It did coincide with trading in my Discovery the other month for a new Range Rover. I did wonder about my new found state of serenity and good manners.

@TJ-Dives Год назад

I was a proud owner of this model in NZ. It had been imported from Germany so it was a left hooker. NZ drive on right. This car was very nice. Ducaro directional tires, independent suspension. I enjoyed owning it.

@GRfourfun Год назад

This has brought back some great memories. My dads boss had one of these new in a light green, I remember my dad telling me and the heater switch came off and my dads boss went in to get it sorted. BMW told him it would be a month on back order. He was not impressed and he ended up having the one from a showroom car.

@edsmith4821 Год назад

I sat in the back of my uncle's 7series my dad had a mk4 Ford Cortina and it was like stepping into the future with quality and vibe . As a kid I didnt understand but now I do

@EconomicsMate1 Год назад

The e23 and the w126 were so ahead of their time when they came out.

@rahulmandala4930 Год назад

Both of them were awesome flagships! Such charming style

@marco7563 Год назад

yeah much like tesla nowadays

@tigerskys6810 Год назад

Love it. You hear virtually nothing about the classic big Beemers from this era so really appreciate the vid. Occasionally I got to drive the boss's 732i back in '81. Felt like a king in it

@marka.2484 Год назад

I totally relate with you JayEmm. The only car I owned and regretted selling is my E34 535i. It was such a delight to drive. So planted, so cool. I wish I didn't need the money back then.

@tiago422 Год назад

Agreed on that ! I miss mine so much event after replacing it with a m5 3.8 . 535i great great e34 .

@toooldclassics Год назад

I miss my E28 M535i with the dogleg box ☹️

@johnj3577 Год назад

I agree, my e34 was a lowly 520i and I replaced it eventually with an e39 540i, but always felt the steering and handling, especially the way it settled into and tracked through turns, was better in the e34. Great car.

@alexhase5632 Год назад

Lovely scare @14:00 😂. Another great review mate 🙂

@daveshongkongchinachannel Год назад

I was driven in one of these as a teenager although it was the automatic version. The owner later swapped it for a slightly newer 732i which he claimed performed just as well and drank less fuel due to the more modern 4-speed auto. Such a pleasure to see this rare example and it such good condition too!

@Boric78 Год назад

You are really nailing these videos these days. Interesting car delivered just about right.

@thedrivechannel83 Год назад

Great video. A German spec 732i 1984 model was my step mother's daily driver in the 90s it too had a manual gearbox. And the COOLEST steel wheels. I'd kill to have that car back.

@GentilsGarage Год назад

I love these. A few years ago they could be bought for not a lot! The reason why the 745i (turbo) wasn’t available in RHD was because the steering would be in the way and no space for the Turbo, hence why in SA they used the M88.

@Kulumuli Год назад

A former collegue had this old 528i of same generation. racing green, golden rims, yellow headlights and beige leather interior. I thought it was so cool.

@TheMrFishnDucks Год назад

Nice old car. Thanks for showcasing these cars always fun to learn the history. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

@DeltaDubai03 Год назад

What a fantastic car! I am glad you enjoyed it so much. Not the prettiest 70/80s BMW, but certainly one of the best if not the best. The post-1982 cars (LCI) are even better thanks to multiple improvements, including a standard AC.

@martinboulden4388 Год назад

This car is so cool it should be parked in a freezer not a heated garage ! Awesome video and content James.

@AntoniusTyas Год назад

I'd imagine those SADM 745i would be an utter joy to drive. Especially with that M1 engine. Much like the Mercedes 500E. You wouldn't know it's something special until you put your foot down.

@dm5374 Год назад

I drove a 745i and I can say that the power came on ...a full second or more after you put your foot down. Not exactly ideal.

@adriaanserrao2016 Год назад

my grandfather bought a 728i in 1981 and drove it till it was worthless still very iconic

@RumblestripDotNet Год назад

Looks like that 735 is ready for some valve guides.

@dm5374 Год назад

More like a Nikasil issue. Worn valve guides smoke with your foot off the pedal, not on.

@adriaanserrao2016 Год назад

just saw the discovery almost drive into you, very funny. I am a South African and the old 535i and 735i are legendary

@davekennedy6315 Год назад

Lovely car, a much more interesting buy than the old 3 series he'd been looking for.

@jameskerherve7487 Год назад

I love this review! I own the Highline version offered to North America the 1986 L7. Mine does not have the manual 😢 which does make a huge difference in the driving enjoyment of this vehicle.

@MrRoyck10 Год назад

This car is from the era when BMW was the ultimate driving machine with its iconic legendary naturally aspirated “ creamy “straight six engine. Now those days are long gone with all new cars having the same muted engine sound, mapped fake exhaust and computer wizardry soulless engine with dangerous bhp and performance. I absolutely adore these old school BMW when “ M division “ meant Motorsports rather than today’s M that stands for Marketing! 😅

@papa_pt Год назад

Their straight sixes are still great. For me the biggest loss is the completely shit steering feel and feedback since switching to EPS in 2011

@richardharrold9736 Год назад

@@papa_pt the last good BMW six was the N52. Everything since has been turbocharged, shit sounding and catastrophically unreliable.

@papa_pt Год назад

@@richardharrold9736 I used to think that way until I drove a tuned n54. B58 actually sounds pretty good and is way more reliable than n54/n55, if not more reliable than n52

@richardharrold9736 Год назад

@@papa_pt I can't stand turbocharged engines. Hate how they sound, hate the mushy throttle response, hate the lumpen power delivery.

@papa_pt Год назад

@@richardharrold9736 latter two are almost non existent in the B58. I ended up embracing the big power and silly group b sounds like turbo spool and blow off valve on my wagon. NA motors still have their place (only GT3 and Z06 are left) but turbo 6 life is much better than the initial position of hatred I had for it

@jefferysmith3930 Год назад

I have always loved these cars. I still have the sales brochures for 733i and 320i from 1977 that my parents picked up all those years ago. In the USA we only got the 733i...detuned for emissions, of course....until 1985 when the 735i took its place for the last few years of production. In 1987 my family had a white with blue leather 84 733i automatic. It was beautiful but a real dog to drive. My dad had a friend with an 83 model. Black with tan And, a 5 speed! What a difference! I got it to clean and detail one weekend and was allowed drive it around a bit. Compared to our lazy automatic, the manual would just hike up her skirts and go! Break the tires loose pulling out from a side road....check. Mildly Drift around corners... check, check. At 17 years old why I was allowed to drive it and how I didn’t wreck it, I will never know.

@alexbiro262 Год назад

I had a euro spec 728i 80' e23 4 speed when I was 16-18 but of course I wrecked it, what a great car that was.

@elektra5how Год назад

beautiful car, been in love with these since watching Nothing But Trouble as a kid

@RobinHood-qy7vt Год назад

Yes. Just yes!! The best car reviewer around mate

@garryhoniball4102 Год назад

I loved this episode for several reasons: 1. I'm a South African and know the local 745i story well 2. My dad had a 728 in period 3. This is what classic car content should be like. I'm sick to death of the zillion dollar restored and collectable culture that seems to permeate today.

@baltvdb Год назад

I couldn’t agree more.(reason 3 only)

@gilesl Год назад

I had one of these in 2.8 form, and they drive really well 👍

@nickwillobey2205 Год назад

What a stunning motor all these years later!!! 😍 Lovely!

@sensationalfailure Год назад

The editing glitch made me chuckle :) Man, I love your videos.

@steveastin2684 Год назад

Ahh, back when BMW built actual drivers cars that also looked stunning would love an M5 from that era

@andrewthompsonuk1 Год назад

My 735 would do about 26 mpg without trying. It was possible to get better than 30 mpg. Aerodynamics were not a strong point on the E23, however the efficiency of the engine seemed to make up for that compared with other cars of the period.

@tiago422 Год назад

I’ve been fallowing you for a while Now ! Cheers ! Great great video ! And I love those old bimmers. I’ve tried them All and own some of them . They are addictive

@TheStwat Год назад

That is fabulous.

@at-dn5xk 10 месяцев назад

my father had exactly the same (735i, dark blue , 1980, fully equipped except leather). was a great car. Driving was similar to the Jaguar S-type with the 3.8 engine, I had as toy. I love both.

@lanmastersassistant659 Год назад

Lol that edit when the RR cut across the corner

@richardharrold9736 Год назад

LRD4 not RR ;)

@thedetailingdoctor5746 Год назад

Beautiful car one of BMWs best!

@markwilson3635 Год назад

I had one of these, a 1981 735i automatic in cashmere gold and 20 years later i still regret selling it. It was a WONDERFUL car!

@markscars1069 Год назад

I honestly do believe that when my M340i xDrive reaches the end of its PCP deal, if I don’t just keep it I will return to what I used to drive years ago; much older BMWs. They had class, luxury through being just what they were and not because it was loaded with loads of of tech most of which never gets used. And they had breeding. Looked at the LCI G20. Good God the interior is hideous even compared to my pre-LCI G20. Comparing both to my old E38 7s and the E32 also really highlights what we’ve lost. Finding a good one may be the way forward.

@ImperatorSeanus Год назад

I felt the same, owned an e46 330ci manual and for some reason traded it for a 2014 c220d, nice and comfortable cruiser but so boring after the e46. Always lusted over something 80’s and when this popped up I couldn’t stop myself and haven’t regretted it!

@930Tony Год назад

Some guides or valve seals and it's a dream for life.

@dwarfshortage244 Год назад

Gorgeous!

@cooperhall2793 Год назад

Love the E23. I have an 84 745i turbo here in the US that was gray-market imported back in the day. I also have an E32 88 735i 5 speed in my garage. Cool cars.

@Goodman-4525 Год назад

Is it just me or does the space in front of the gear lever look perfect for a smartphone?? Also I literally couldn't tell which bit was the bluetooth head unit so good job to whoever made that thing.

@johnchurch4705 Год назад

You can buy them on eBay..

@michaelpegasiou4531 Год назад

I learnt to drive in one of those plus a first gen renault 5 and a Bedford van,It was pretty damn confusing 😂

@kristianspencer1978 Год назад

My favourite 7 series is the e38, a 2001 740i msport individual. Great looking car.

@tastypymp1287 Год назад

The zenith of the 7 series.

@ImperatorSeanus Год назад

Really wanted an e38 740/50i car for ages, mainly because of Bond and The Transporter but just couldn’t stop going back and looking at this on Car & Classic so I knew it was the one!

@albanana683 Год назад

The South African version now makes sense of my mate from SA being obsessed with the 7 series. He ended up with a 750i and used to wear out a set of tyres on track days with it.

@moh2502 6 месяцев назад

The South African 745i had an M88 motor, what a gem that was...

@stefaanvandendriessche2805 Год назад

I had a 1981 735i as an oldtimer, had a dogleg gearbox. Rotted away unfortunately, but what a great car. Strangely the engine in my 1981 model looked different to this engine

@1234PS3master Год назад

14:00 😂

@barron204 Год назад

I drove a blue auto 20 years ago, and it was my first experience of driving an “old” BMW.

@chrisnic8894 Год назад

That disco was close! 😮

@IceMan-il7dx Год назад

Great.....memories of my manual 732i which I exported Down under. It was let go early this century, fool am I?!

@550LMS Год назад

LOVE this Where did it all go wrong with cars...

@stevedickson5853 4 дня назад

Net zero

@Santoshlv426 Год назад

I still have the original 5 page report of the BMW 745i published in the July 1983 edition of CAR magazine. This period represented a time when BMW was a manufacturer of superior driving machines! That no longer holds true. The 745i cost ~ $190-$200K in todays money. 213 kw, 340 N.m from a 3.6L DOHC engine. Engine, Gearshift, interior; all were upgraded from the then 735i. according to our stats, back then, in this price range your alternatives were the Mercedes 380 SEC, Jaguar XJS, Porsche 928S and Porsche 911 Cabrio.

@ImperatorSeanus Год назад

This car came with the 1980 Dec-Jan edition of AutoCar with a full review of a similar car, really interesting to read what the journalists said about it back in the day!

@guy4469 Год назад

My daily is a E38 728I I SOLD MY E28 Wich was also very nice ,but the 38 is still modern .has 8 airbags ,its just a nice place to be .i have a 5ltr granada pirrana south Africa import .its ok in a straight line .

@eze8970 Год назад

Thanks J! 🙏🙏

@Rouxenator Год назад

My grandpa (a Mercedes man) was swayed by one of these - a '82 728i built here in South Africa at the Roslyn plant. In 1987 the valves went one day on a trip to Cape Town from Bonnievale and he traded it in for a W124 at the next town on the road (I think Riviersonderend on the N2).

@juliankent8875 Год назад

Pure class. Fair play to him 👌

@JohnAdams-kc8wx Год назад

Had a 1985 735i, lovely car, yet again another one I should have kept!

@j-1159 Год назад

Always love your views

@pavelkravchenko4367 Год назад

Dad used to have 728 with manual sunroof and I met the car having Soviet cars only experience…needless to say more. Memories….

@stephgagnoulet3133 Год назад

Great video as always!!! "Dentist chair" made my day... 😂

@Smegmeister Год назад

Many fond memories of one of these, being 17 with long hair and holey jeans.. The Police used to pull me all the time. You could tell they were surprised when I pulled over and passed my documents. (my boss's car) I was a nanny at the time. The kick down when 17 years old was addictive. straight over on roundabouts was prob my fav thing after females at the time.

@Smegmeister Год назад

A Manual! Wow

@bertramspielt Год назад

One of the most beautiful BMWs ever. Quit reliable engine, but... As to see in the video, the valve shaft seals are the major cause for the famos BMW Bavarian colored smoke. ;-) In the old times, this was absolute common. A great car, even by today's standard.

@saippuakivikuappias Год назад

Sean is cool. We like Sean.

@stacyplant9327 Год назад

A truly great car and terrific video about it. Excellent stuff

@HD.Motorsports Год назад

I just bought myself an m90. Im very excited

@giuseppe397 2 месяца назад

The autos are actually really good and very underrated. They drive lovely and smooth and have plenty of torque. You also have a selectable gear too. They were blummin great them old Autos. These are cruisers so it's not lacking without a manual box. It also affects the sound and I want one. An auto by the way. The roads aren't a racetrack so it's just perfect for me.

@ThomasMauger Год назад

I love these old german saloons. I hope sometime in the future you could get a w116 to drive. The 6.9 is the big daddy of course but a 450SE may be the better driver. A HPF W126 500SE would also be a cool one but good luck finding one

@arronjones6985 Год назад

I had a v8 e32 for a few years and absolutely loved it. I was in my early 20s at the time and it was super cheap to insure. It was a high mileage car and had some 300k under its belt by the time I sold it! It was also a nikasil block car that had never be replaced 🤯. Electronic gremlins forced me to sell it in the end. "If I knew then what I know now" and all that 🤷🏼‍♂️

@cconcannon5145 Год назад

That edit where the oncoming Disco cut the corner! LOLS

@craig-xk4mm 8 месяцев назад

i have a 1985 735i i bought in 1989 still use it great car, i also have the 745i turbo he is correct on all he says

@taxus750 Год назад

I'd pass on the E30 and have an E28 (M5 preferably, but a 535i will do), but when a new 3-series is as big as an E23, I'll take the latter. BTW the M88/3 (from the M1) went into the E28 M5, not the 535.

@aidanhora2374 Год назад

Great video on a very unusual car. You need to try a BMW 2002tii with the mechanical fuel pump. The start of the great BMW’s

@giuseppe397 2 месяца назад

Proper made car and well comfy. All the older bm's are. They are fantastic and a joy to drive,also great over by bumps and are just right on them fat profile tyres. I want an auto one cos they're perfect for cruising. No need for a manual in something for cruising. I want one now.

@richardharrold9736 Год назад

Interesting editing flub at 14:00 - you're in the middle of saying something when the Land Rover Discovery 4 comes round the bend in the opposite direction a little close to the middle of the road, you say "what the..." then repeat your previous line...

@GoldenCroc Год назад

Not just "a little close", its well past the middle over on the other side with both front and rear wheels when they met. Very, very poor driving, I would be tempted to turn my car around and give them a stern talking to.

@09juliancarr Год назад

It’s because the vehicle was on the wrong side of the road!!!

@Scran997 Год назад

Loved your "What the.....(bleep!)" comment at 14 minutes in - thanks to the muppet, in the Discovery, driving on your side of the road! Best watch out for BV65 OJF if you live in that area - feel free to name check if recognised, lol, as everyone deserves their fifteen minutes of fame! 😂

@15DEAN1995 Год назад

14:02 that made me laugh. range rovers being range rovers lol

@richardharrold9736 Год назад

It's a Land Rover Discovery 4, not a Range Rover.

@johannjohannsen3823 Год назад

one of my fav cars

@marcholstten Год назад

Truely love these. Marley and the Wailers used to have one , or several. And the turbo 745i was incredible and special. I like the E32 more, overall; and if it wasn't for the first v12 that wasn't ferrari , lamborghini or jaguar, i wish they made a badass E32 745i with a turbo 3.2 L m3 engine... Anyways...

@Mouse2113 Год назад

Wonderful thing, a proper BMW

@robertperillo8738 Год назад

Small correction, Jay .. no steering rack, these have a recirculating ball steering box setup. Impressive steering feel for an old style, one could confuse it for a rack!

@richardharrold9736 Год назад

BMW persisted with steering boxes for a long time, right up until the E39 5-series in its V8 variants (the sixes got racks). The box feels great, honestly, I don't get why people complain about them.

@robertperillo8738 Год назад

@@richardharrold9736 the box in my E39 M5 produces better steering feel than the rack of any M5 that succeeded it! From an era where BMW cared about the driving experience

@richardharrold9736 Год назад

@@robertperillo8738 I've never had an M, but certainly my E39 535i and 540i have a lot more feel than the F11 520d I had for a month.