1981 Nightline interview with Steve Jobs 

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Seriously. I just watched that entire 12-minute video start-to-finish. I can’t tell you the last time that happened.

@@wonderstew it was a really good interview...

Thats exactly what i think, every time i watch TV interviews from decades ago.

Everything now is fluff and commercials

I’m seeing this on my smartphone computer

I could be watching this on my smartwatch

pfff, computers? am seeing this on the newspaper right now

Me to.

... and in a Mac

Nowadays, you can just bump into someone and there's a 98% chance that they have a computer.

Home desktops are on their way to being just as rare as they were then.

Bro how mad are you LOL 😂😂😂 and the crazy part is you are right. In like 10-20 years, that “home computer owner” is going to be as rare as it was in 1981 as far as desktops are concerned.

@@lolyermad Thats incredible

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No, only one of them was correct. The number of people who actually use computers for creative endeavors is minuscule. Computers have turned into 4 figure wank machines and the internet is now a glorified shopping mall.

@@keithd2284 that's kinda narrow minded don't you think? the very fact that you're commenting this on RU-vid which is one of the biggest internet platforms contradicts your statement. Computers have evolutionized pretty much every creative practice there is, as well as made entirely new ones possible. Sure, most of the internet is porn and almost everything else in the world has also been renewed or replaced but that doesn't change the fact that he said something true, even if there is much more to it than that aspect.

@@pongofant2030 No, I wouldn't have said it if I thought it was narrowminded. My critique isn't of the technology itself, but rather the way it is used. RU-vid itself is fundamentally an advertising platform. And it's far and away the best of the major social media platforms. You know... People had pen pals in the 70s. Not most of them, but a lot of them. And they wrote each other hand written letters... Now everybody has a million "pen pals" and they post silly cat pics and pop culture memes AT each other. People doodled... Now hand drawn animation is all but extinct. Don't even get me started about what has happened to the quality of music in the last 30 years. Ultimately, I don't think he said anything true. Sure, people draw and write and record music and make movies on computers, but people did all of those things prior to computers as well. Are more people engaging in more creative activity as a result of ubiquitous computing resources? I don't know, but I honestly don't think so. The drive to create seems to be innate to the human condition and it's been there since at least the time of the Spinx.

@@keithd2284 Sure people were recording music and making movies before computers but what technology has done is made it so ANYONE can make music or movies and put it on a platform where you can be seen and discovered. Before computers and the internet there was a huge barrier of entry for these things but now anybody can with a minimal of expense. The same thing can be said of almost any creative endeavor (building and distributing video games is also a good example). Basically tech is leveling the playing field.

@@keithd2284 You can take me for example. Currently my primary source of income is selling prints of my photography. Back in the day I would've had to either set up a stand on a corner or go through a gallery to sell my work. Now I can post my work to print-on-demand sites (that the whole world can access, or people can find listings via Google) then people can find my stuff and decide if they want to buy it. Also computers and digital tech have made it much easier to edit and store photos, no spending a fortune on film or using a darkroom. No storing negatives.

you could say the same for current day people being looked upon 30 years from now. but computers really did revolutionize the ways things were done back then. things got smarter, faster, more precise.

you think the computer is a battle... good luck educating the masses on blockchain and decentralized systems ..looking back..its almost the same conversation that we are now having about bitcoin and the blockchain....im already in ;)

DarthScorpio11 For the time it was a really big deal.

I remember watching these. The public really didn't understand how important computers were so the media always pounded in the idea of how important and ubiquitous computers were

Joe Quinthorp can you at least put a capital 't' after the period? Smh.

Watch some good podcasts, eg. Joe rogan, Lex Fridman etc.

You can blame computers for those not being around anymore.

@@banquo60615 OK BOOMER

@@chaskramer2932 Nope. Gen-X, but old enough to know what real human interaction was like.

Thank the liberals

How true!

Jobs always knew he is right, that's what drove him towards making this company what it is today, he doesn't need to see 2019 he already knew back then that this is gonna happen and he wanted to be a catalyst

But they had to both be right to know that - does not compute ;+}

Yeah, I was thinking exactly the same thing. It's quite amazing how accurate their predictions were.

Burnham is still around today, would be cool to see a retrospective on this.

He got it from a "Scientific American" article that was about locomotion efficiency in animals. Applying it to computers was his idea...

Broadly he’s referencing McLuhan, who described technology as an “extension” of the human body.

@referral madness You're missing the point; he has the wit & intelligence to use that metaphor to great effect in application to the conversation he was having.

Steve Jobs 26 year old genius: The computer is a bicycle. Me 25 eating toaster strudel: one more year until I become a genius!

Nope. I realized similiar methaphor. Not bike but weapon. How animal use claw, no matter how powerful the claw it fall below human when using sharp stone attach on the stick. When im 4 years old in 1993

Im a PC guy, but I admire how Steve Jobs made sure Apples encryption of data is top grade. They dont let the government just do what they want with peoples data.

Except now it's not as easy to "throw it out the window" 6:35 . Sure, an iPhone is under 8oz, but what about the stove, the thermostat, the speaker, or all the neighbours' cameras... etc. everything is being embedded with this technology and a few years all these things will practically be conscious when infused with AI.

Yes steve jobs was a very incredible man

@@RuviaPawz Steve Jobs is the reason everything went to shit. First with Apple in the 80's with his idiotic idea that the early Macintoshes were the machines they should push forward, and later with the iPhone. That is what has destroyed our planet. The iPhone, and the smartphones that came after are the sole reason that people with a sub-3 digit IQ are able to get online in the first place. He dumbed it all down too much, and now we're all paying the price. He didn't have to, he died before it got to this point. What a fucking asshole.

I hate him for removing many features from phone like SD card slot, Bluetooth file transfer, FM radio etc

Danger is inevitable, I don't think eliminating computers will make the world any more safer .

@@anilchandran3954apple never removed an SD card slot because they never had one in their phones…

As much as I'm a proponent of Steve Jobs I don't think giving him umerited adulation is necessary. He wasn't a mathematician . He was just a mere salesman and an artist that understood the intricacies of simplicity. Pardon my double entandre.

He was an amazing visionary and inventor who mastered communication to the high art.

@Yahweh5995 , I am a mathematician and PhD. from the top university in America. After graduation, I worked on financial institutions focusing on the evaluation of the companies. Leadership is one of the most important factors in consideration. There were many PCs at time, without Steve Jobs' vision and leadership, Apple 1 was a toy for hobbyists. Apple 2 would disappear in a few years. Apple, as a company, would disappear and fail company in history in 1997, rather than being the most valuable company today. This world does not lack super smart people who understand the most advanced topics in mathematics or engineering.

@@weizheng673 What would you consider Steve Jobs strong points (as a leader) Educate me with Apple 1, and 2 please. Good topic!

​​​@@rogerfournier3284 Steve is a visionary, he clearly thinks in abstractions but not in the way a mathematician does, he abstracts reality to get to the core fundamentals in order to address business needs in the form of tech products.

what 26 is pretty old no mattert what time gen z just want to be treated like kids until they turn 30

@@playoffl36ron8mid 20’s isn’t old lol especially for a leader of one of the most successful computer companies 😂😂

they had tabloid news back then, and decent news programs like this still exist today they just arent as pubkicised or popular because despite your hatred for tabloit news, you still fall victim to its epic ability at grabbing attention like a 14yo cutter. I dont see why people romanticise the past, some aspects maybe, but its always things that havent really changed if you just take the time to look around, or even further research and talk to people who lived back then.

Blame RUPERT MURDOCH.

Did you listen to the token opposition they brought in to "represent the other side." He said nothing.

tabloid news are better

@@leifleoden5464 actually he said a lot, and all of it happened.

it is still around on the internet and in podcasts and other long form respectable formats.

Because brainwashing techniques are stronger, it started in the 30s, our parents were baby boomers and we are baby boomers 2nd generation, dont be in denial, we are too spoiled and brainwashed

WillyTheComposer no stupid background noise going on either nice just listen to people telling actual proper news

... don't be fooled... ... that is because there was only one Ted Koppel who was the best at that game... ... you can say, gone are the days when there were real knowledgeable guys who knew how to interview guests .without bias or agenda.

When Ben Shapiro interviewed Andrew Yang it was actually pretty good.

Да, всё пошло по пизде

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And the winning comment goes to...izools! LOL - great analysis!

Killing brain cells effectively

I’ve probably learned more from tiktok than any other application ever.

#mylittleponyplushies

@@fucker9002 important facts

@@FirestormDDash fo real respect

2:58 They knew with that Apple ][

oh..."They" knew. If only "WE" knew...

#UnionMonopolies #slowingEVERYTHINGdown

Not the new 7000 series. They finally got rid of the 1000 series that were the first cars when the system opened.

Except now they're not controlled by computers anymore.

What would they be controlled with? Faith?

That's because it's the same train.

K there goes the I-phone X

And the iMac Pro and 2017 Touchbar Macbook Pro.

Literally first comment I read after seeing it lol

..has no regard for pedestrians

Great mastery of handling objections shown here by Steve Jobs

20 years from now, people will be appreciating today's journalism :)

so the fact that the host is an idiot passed you by then

Steve jobs is trash now

Computers and the internet happened.

They got bought, are now owned by only 5 companies and their sole purpose is to blast propaganda and disinfo at the profit of a tiny tiny tiny group of people.

Just feel off my dinosaur

amazing how that aged well from '81

i don't understand. Facebook doesn't have any information that you yourself haven't shared with them under warning. If you are afraid for your privacy, don't post shit online about yourself.

@@marko6489 Found the Facebook employee. Become an hero. Facebook is installed by default on many mobile phones and is in many cases unable to be removed by normal means, short of something like jailbreaking the phone.

But even that guy from the 80s made good points, it was a fair and balanced discussion on both ends.

@@ClayMationNation Present time actually shows, as Edward Snowden demonstrated, that "the guys from the 80s" was right

@@vladk8637 That is one scenario but look at all the good the internet has done also. It has made EVERYTHING available at our fingertips and cheaper!

@@ClayMationNation So it helped us destroy the planet as well

haha.. yes he sounds like he's definitely from the future. He has the speed of thought and speech... the confidence, almost of hindsight!!.. it's quite remarkable.

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Yeah, but you've gotta keep in mind that personal computers were not common (1 in 1,000 household Jobs says in this interview), so he really doesn't want to admit to a wide (and largely computer-illiterate) audience the potential dangers.

He didn’t side step completely. He was speaking to an extremely digital illiterate crowd. His point was essentially a nice way of saying “if you know how to use a computer, you understand how it’s not going to control you.”

@@Josh-hz8vz They said computers but what they really meant was who controls your data/information controls you. They were pretty litterate on that one.

@@discretelycontinuous2059 I really wonder what Jobs would say now; I'm mean, he's been gone, what, less than a decade? But I would love to see if he had any thoughts on whether he would push the things that he did, based upon where we are now. I.e., do you have any regrets about leading the digital revolution that ultimately integrated man and machine and enabled near-dystopian control (e.g., China)?

@Chenko Alex Yep... Edward Snowden!!!!

Internet was already around. They also had private national network such as telenet and tymnet. Linked all kinds of computers together. In fact, you could link your home computer just like how you link it to the Internet today, just that was it was far more expensive to do.

They had what was called the ARPANET. And you could call other computers if they had a modem and so did you. Haven't you seen Wargames?

Steve Jobs is a reptilian.

The Govt invading our privacy was a concept that has been around since the 1940s. George Orwell's visionary novel, 1984 predicted mass surveillance and human self-censorship as a result, back in 1949. That book essentially prophesied what we all found out through Edward Snowden 64 years in advance!! Let that sink in.

GUIRADE Well I guess you had the feeling each contemporary had of Leonardo da Vinci, sir Newton or Henry Ford....every real genius is never fully understood in his early life and positions...or he/she would not be a genius being that genial thought is simply the ability to forsee and elaborate something that will happen in the future. I always use the example of Vincent VanGogh: his contemporaries not only didn't recognize his genius but openly told him he should do something other than painting at which he "was really awful", actually he famously sold only one painting only to his brother who bought it out of pity for his miserable economic conditions. Now the very discendants of his contemporaries queue up to see his marvelous work in the VanGogh National Museum in Amstrdam. :-)

Agreed - Strange example I know, but reminds me of the analogy my great grandmother used when us school girls hesitantly admitted we didn't like the boys from our school - only the boys from the school across town. Her response "No man is a prophet in his own land." It difficult to recognize greatness from people within our own social circles.

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The Ashton Kutcher resemblance is even closer than I imagined.

i mean, it talks about software bugs, computers taking over people’s jobs, and invasion of privacy… all still concerns. how weird.

Shreyansh Tiwari haha, see you in 2078. Maybe

2019

No! It’s timeless!

🍷Agreed this one with Steve as well as the entire intro of computers taking over - privacy becoming a conference really stands out for its time..

Done. *dies of alcohol poisoning

What's a computer?

Computer: 30 Computers: 31 Computarized: 2

@@zackstaa7826 don’t worry, a computer will take your place

A death sentence

If only he delivered them better...

He probably got hired by the US government to implement universal surveillance after he gave up trying to fight it.

@@cielant how would he knew that in 1981

At first, I thought he was anti-computer too but I think instead of being that he simply wanted people to acknowledge the potential dangers of heading into a computer world, and he was right. Today we got hackers, scammers, the NSA, and that famous computer just two years after this interview that wanted to play the game of thermal nuclear war lol

Right! And I bet he ended up using computers anyway.

Hold my beer emoji

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You couldn't do the simplest thing without a computer in `81 ? Now that's a load of crap

@@gorillaman283 🍺 you can have it back now

Zgnid Olias I thought the same

Yep, he was always a reality-distorting con man.

except it was all made up. You can be as computer literate as you want... how would it protect goverments from spying on you?

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do you really want th answer? that was a very dumb comment.

That question ran across my mind also

Act now!

well you outlived him

Dont worry buddy you are not alone

Job's private life was a train wreck; if you truly love those who are important to you, you're already streets ahead.

Gooood point!

Let's just watch kids use them. Yeah dude, kids are for the most part innocent. Watch a politician/government use them and you will get the answer that jobs didn't want to admit.

@mrbrockpeters people like Jobbs were way ahead of their time. Heck, if I remember correctly Nikola Tesla stated something about this.

He diverted & used the innocent image of kids to balance out the negative opinion. Freaking genius!

@@ZubinB how is that genius you dumbass? He used appeal to emotion, you can learn that in a community college public speaking class.

Yeah, I feel the same way.

"Jobs seems to identify prevalent with literacy. That's a flawed assumption. Just because computers are everywhere, doesn't mean people understand them better." Catch me on this if I'm wrong... But isn't that exactly what is happening? Depending on how we define "literacy"-in the context of computers, as Jobs mentioned-whether it means the understanding of the inner workings-, how to program them or how to operate them; in any of the definitions that has hold true. - There are more developers now than ever, and it is growing rapidly. Jobs for programming are increasingly growing. - It's fair to say that most people know how to use a computer, being it a phone, tablet or desktop. - More and more hardware is coming out-mostly for enthusiasts-which allows you to program and build your own computers for little to no money. - Computers-and in some places, programming-is taught in school and used as learning and work tool. I think it's fair to assume, that a big part of the reason that this is possible is due to the wide distribution and availability of technology and computers in most-if not all-corners of the world.

You do realize people die everyday right? If computers become more apparent and taught at young ages then those like our grandparents and even our parents now who don't necessarily understand the functions of most technology, will eventually pass and their ignorance will fade with that generation. And from that will come a society that is fully aware of the fun and dangers of online usage and computers in general. The change towards that future has already begone and by the time 2030 comes around, i doubt anyone in America (and maybe the world too) will have any problems using a computer.

It's because respect and decency are dying by the ignorant and hateful things we choose to say to one another on social media, including on RU-vid.

@@marknowlin8356 🍷👍True..

So true

​@@marknowlin8356 Don't judge just because you haven't attempted a conversation with a bloke on the street since the 90s. People are generally just as respectful as those from 40 years ago. The internet is a great way to express our opinion without diluting it for the sake of others.

LOL Just another dodgy salesman with suckers for customers LOL Candy-colored computers, seriously?

@@CaesarCassius Oh how naive y;ou are. He's the reason why your dumbass can use a computer. He personalized it to make the computer easy enough for the average dummy like you.

@@bioches Considering most of his ideas were stolen from Xerox, hardly. Not only that, IBM created the first PC 3 years before Macintosh came onto the market. Every Windows-based computer, of which is 90% of the current market, is based on the IBM. The only thing modern PCs adopted that Apple popularized is the mouse, which was developed by Xerox.

@@danem2215 execution is a hugee part of success. xerox didnt know nor did they want to commercialize their gui.

I don't buy Apple for many different reasons that I won't bother explaining, but denying Jobs intelligence is plain stupid. He was a genius, but you can't expect an idiot to understand a genius.

What do you mean you could smell him 5 feet away. What did he smell like?

@@markflierl1624 Body Odor. Don't know what you know about Steve in his younger years, but he considered bathing optional and rarely did it. There is the story when he worked at Atari that he was brilliant but people did not want to be around him. I still admired him and miss his genius. I made a living off his products and appreciate them and him.

@@markflierl1624 Computers, obviously

@@BeAPickle It's been reported that he had a legendary body odor problem!

I didn't see him answer the tougher questions, just repeat his own mantras over and over again.

not really, you should get smarter friends.

Peter Gazdik so true, I was thinking the same.

Peter Chan he smart, what you expect??

John Smith myself and all the others here are trying to deal with our own limitations.

Yeah but you could be doing it without using a overpriced under specced piece of dog shit that you pick from brand loyalty alone like a dumb fuck.

@@lolyermad ikr, who tf uses a macbook in 2020, AMD ftw

Fawk Yu nice profile pic

Skynet is actualizing its mission statement exactly on time. Actually it did a long time ago and prhaps we're just a sim inside a baby AI's training program...a toy to play with in its crib and learn about 'homo sapiens' who helped manifest it eons before ;)

not all 7 are apple though ;)

Reagan

Lorem Ipsum lol no.

Dreams don't equal reality, that's where.

We had wristwatches with calculators in them too!

The oil industry bought out soal power energy, signed buy bush...they own oil and will lose money to solar.

Hahaha

Matt Olivier A little of selfishness is always required to make success in the life.

Trust me the average home computer was more in 1981 then in 2001. The prices came way down. My dad couldn't afford one, but we did get the Texas Instruments Computer when it went out of production in late '83 and they sold them off at a cheap price. We had to wait in line before the store opened, then ran in. LOL. I learned how to type of "Touch Typing Tutor." program cartridge.

an apple IIe set up with cpu, monitor, and disk drives back in the early 80's was about 2000-3000 dollars. in current money that would be about 6000-9000 dollars so yeah they were expensive. one of my classmates's parents bought one back then and they didn't let anyone eat or drink near the thing. it was a huge investment for people.

What would be today's equivalent of 1980 home computer owner? Maybe a 3D printer owner?

@@Martinit0 Electric car owner

I know people who STILL haven't bought a computer; they think it's good thing, i.e., that they don't have one.I've given up trying to convince them.

Everybody is yaking ahhh how great jobs was....but the semi bald guy is 100 right

@@stallio5612 Absolutely right. Thought the same exact thing.

AI is nowhere near that level.

Trax World Watching this on iPad Pro, on RU-vid.

True, sometimes on TV, you can easily be sued.

We all are

I'm watching this on my watch

NO WAY!! 😲

Check out a political debate or a celebrity tv show from the same era. People weren't as debased and intellectually deficient back then. Maybe it really was the led in the water supply? Trans-fats? Whatever it was it destroyed us.

@@deadheads1352 perhaps it was the computer it's self...

@@deadheads1352 You just had to be in a different league to get on TV back then. People haven't gotten dumber, it's just easier for the dumb ones to make noise.

Try high school debates. Back in the 80s we had 16-17 year old kids having a political debate just like the Presidential debate and the students would vote for the high school President. Those kids spoke just as intelligently as Steve Jobs in this video.

@@deadheads1352 To be fair, Jobs was highly intelligent, intellectually and creatively he was a genius. Not a great example for the baseline of discourse 40 years ago.

I was literally looking through his biography today the pictures especially as I can't stop thinking about Open AI

I just wish he had shown basic common sense with his health later in life.

@OG HerefanoPatriot Act came out in 2001, long before Obama. The vast extent of it came out in 2006, still 2 years before Obama. Might want to check your facts.

@@jose2292 How quickly people forget.

Living Proof you can’t even spell you stupid fucking hick.

💡 Excellent point, well said. What next?

@@jfish032 dismantle and rebuild the education system

@@MarioGreco and where do we start?

@@jfish032 gamify learning, allow students to advance at their own pace, and promote a stronger focus on concepts such as logic and critical thinking.

@@MarioGreco Marry me

Alpha Dragon Capital it wasnt *that* much foresight, they later said that the IRS was tracking welfare cheats and that the civil libterties union had previously said that was too far, it was probably just an observation.

Richard Nixon would have creamed himself if he had the kind of access to personal information that modern governments and corporations have with the ubiquity of social media.

Media was always designed to manipulate you and brainwash you

Me!

Right here

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Me too

Who is watching this in 1981?

Adam Bottjen they should of made a Steve Jobs with Christian Bale as Jobs.

No he looked like Ashton Kutcher in Jobs.

@@IblewuponyourfaceIII Bale knows how to rage like Jobs.