1985 IAAF World Cup Women's 400m 06.10.1985 Canberra (AUS) 47.60 Marita Koch GDR WR 

Unbelievable indeed

And last season the world championship when the woman ran 48.1. and then a allege ban provisional for allegedly missing testing the same as the 100m men champion so disappointing , to give a message of missing testing . which we await the outcome of the investigation.

@@redd605 Unbanned = swept under the carpet. Watch this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ey7P3DzFiAY.html

@Pano Tak Idiots!!!

Absolutely.

They use even much much better drugs today and there are plenty of them

correct. When someone said to me they suspected Bolt was on drugs my reply was that so were others - and he's STILL the best of all of them

@@MrStevecro All the other Jamaicans were on drugs, so it's 100% fair to say that he was on them too.

Vladykina was o drugs too

I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE POR OF THAT TECHNICAL CAREER ANALYSIS

How can you marvel in this like its greatness?? Out out ALL steroid records in every sport this has to be at the Top...no woman is coming anywhere close to this if their clean! No respect at all .koch=cheat

@@thetrackstar215 I don't disagree with you, I was just saying that at the time, not so many people saw it that way. I feel differently now, of course.

@@thetrackstar215 I agree....Just look at the women records from this era. I really think they should think about removing them at this point. I didn't always think that way but they are so far out of reach that it might be unfair to today's women.

*Poles

You think so huh? You're going to need more than drugs to beat that time. Most of her competitors were on a strict doping regimen also and they were still getting smoked by 10 to 15 meters. If you can get down to under 51 seconds by the time you're 18, maybe you have a shot.

I think the record could be broken. But not for some time. We seem to see too many finals won with 49-something seconds on the clock. And people are usually happy with that. Not since Perec and Freeman at Atlanta have women come anywhere close to within a second of Koch's time. And I know Freeman's time was 48.63, compared to Koch's 47.60. But it was a good run.

I'll be probably be dead by the time that happens. I don't think people fully comprehend how fast that time is. She went the first 200 in 22.4. You know how absurd that is. Two crowd obviously knew there were seeing something unusual judging from the gasps. I got an autograph from an Olympian that ran against Koch and she told me flat out, no female sprinter will be able to top that time even if they doped. You can't just use PED's and you'll automatically run faster. You have to take full advantage of what the drugs can do for you and no athlete did that better than Koch. People don't realize that these athletes are already at an elite level. Koch would probably have won without the drugs. All those European Championships she won, she was running against other juiced up runners and the gap between her and everyone else was freakish.

Michael Johnson has suggested that if Marita lives to be 100 years old she will still hold the Women's 400m WR.

I think it is reasonable that some lady will defy the typical 48 second winning runs and do a special 46-point-something time. Probably something in the low 47 second time. A 22 second first 200, and then a 24-something-second next 200. Not out of the ordinary for some female athlete to do.

Naser ran a legit 48.14. So she's the fastest legit 400m runner.

@cjwoot half-truth is worse than no truth.. do you realize the race after Flo-Jo dazzled the world with 10.49 ...was won by Sheila echoes was wind was 0 as well.. do you realize that a heat in the men's 100 at that track meet was -.7 ......half-truth is worse than no truth man tell the whole truth.. the race talkin about what Carl Lewis was the next day... When she ran a wind-legal 10.61 get your facts straight...

The burden of proof is on the accuser so tell me since you are in the business of accusing what drug did Flo-Jo take by name..

By comparison, the other runners were jogging the first 200. Only one athlete put up the challenge to Marita.

34.14 for first 300m is absolutely insane. Nobody has come close even running only 300m.

A 13.46 sec final 100m does not seem all that out of the ordinary. Run your arse off for 300m in 34 seconds. Then do 13 seconds for the final 100m. Seems like a tactic that can pay off.

@Huńt3r is that a proven fact... Tell me the date she fell a drug test and faced the panel and she was served the suspension what was that date

Same. First time I've seen this. She ran the first 200m faster then and majority of elite women 200m runners in a 200m race. Yeah right

same

I am doubtful of Naser. She's got the afraid little girl look. And she's Nigerian.

@@couch.patati-patata Born near Lagos as Ebelechukwu Agbapuonwu, to a Nigerian mother and Bahraini father.

@@sof5858 She was also no.1 in 200m.

I kind of agree with you! I just wish she would have stayed for the ‘88 Olympics and won the 400m

@@ohhiitsjustme3445 They would have been another 2 years away, when she was 31. She already had OG @ 400m from 1980 so she did what few athletes ever do, bowed out while she was still at the very top.

Marita Koch was a druggie…..She was a part of the East German drug program….Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here🤣🤣🤣🤣

A drug cheat is you're hero

@@TheRealMike1976 And you think everyone else is clean lol.

@@TheRealMike1976 ,,,,,, spot on !

@@user-ui6kv2np8i ,,,,,, Koch was clean by Stasi - LOL !!!!!

@@woodyjagla328 And Woods and many others were clean a 'number' of times by the CIA, obviously.

Time to watch 2019 Doha race and update this again xD

@@richardgallimore5976 Salwa Eid Naser is incredible. I just hope she's clean because it would break my heart to find out in 15 years if she wasn't, ya know?

@@milenwomack5105 Eh, maybe I'm pessimistic, but I just kind of assume everyone at the top is on something. With this assumption though it doesn't take away from how great someone is, if everyone is on something and someone wins they are the best, no different than if everyone was clean and the best person wins.

Yeah I understand where you are coming from, it is hard not to be pessimistic. At the same time if everyone was still doping I feel like someone would have invented some type of drug that is undetectable in 25+ years that better than what Koch was taking in the early 80's. It's incredible that no one had beaten her mark in so long...

And never again will there be anyone running 48.27s from lane 1.

@Antonio Woo I am a Bolt fan too :) In last 34 years only one woman was able to run 1second close to Marita Koch world record. xDD That is a good man time today xD

@Antonio Woo This record will not be broken in our life time.

@@HoratioFitzbastard After watching Salwa Eid Naser, it may be broken after all

@@muha8598 Possibly....Never thought i would see a woman run that quick and she's young!

@Antonio Woo why are you comparing men and women's sprints ? that's stupid

ME GUSTARIA ENTENDER EL POR DE ESE ANALISIS TECNICO DE LA CARRERA

@@orlandoduran9850 me gustaría entender porque escribís en mayúsculas.... 👎👎

Flo Jo's too

So is Kristin Otto's 1988 Olympic swimming gold

Yeah but we should remember the "Best time under any circumstances" still. Just to see when we can break them still, as they do in weightlifting. I don't know any weightlifting fans that care about the 2018+ WRs, they only care if those new WRs are above the old ones in roughly the same weight classes, as do the lifters.

I agree....Just look at the women records from this era. I really think they should think about removing them at this point. I didn't always think that way but they are so far out of reach that it might be unfair to today's women to even dream about breaking them.

I would agree with you if you if you are statement was backed up with facts you said everyone was juiced that's just not true tell me the date kock tested positive.... And you mentioned flojo.. tell me the drug flojo was on by name if you can't do that you should not connect their names with drugs... Only thing you can say is that they ran fast.... I mean just think about what I'm saying...

@@sinsin1697 erm, you may have miss-read my words... I said "if" everyone was juiced, and thus on an equal footing, and therefore, Koch (And Flo Jo) are amazing athletes who were simply brilliant and better than the rest.

@@andisoshal3715 yeah I see what you're saying now.. it's just that me myself I am a national champion and I know what it takes to be in national champion on a master level and a collegiate level.. and just to hear so many people( not you ) but to hear so many people mostly non-americans.. bash flojo as if she did something wrong the only thing she did was run fast man I know what it takes to be a national champion and it's something serious but to be a icon like flojo I could imagine what she brought her body through to have all of that work drug in the dirt without proof ...just hit a nerve every time.. so maybe I did jump the gun and I apologize

They are the records. Get over it..

Women’s 100, 200, 400, 800 records set in the 'Easy 80s' still stand today! The Authorities must be embarrassed by that, every year that passes.

,,,,,, LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you so naive that you don't realise it's a level playing field? The best are the best no matter juiced or not. Bolt, Marita, Shelly, MJ, Elaine, Flo Jo.

@@DCOM20. you're a weirdo... Nothing to even talk about with you... You get your cakes busted.. your cheeks are sore

Really?

@@ediestomuflon3891 one handed! i am kidding

Exactly. She suddenly “vanished” from the 2000 Sydney Games, mid competition, with zero explanation! Most likely knew she was about to, or did fail a random drug test, and didn’t want her reputation ruined

she was coached by koch's husband at the very end of her carrer , in 2000 and get no result with him... and the btw he she failed a radom drug test it obviously would have been known...

as a good runner should do, gives a great advance over flat-foot runners

@@64fairlane305: no good runner runs on tip-toes. A good runner has impecable dorsiflexion

yeah, except that program you reference started as mandatory back in 1974.

Just because the Soviet doping ship was denied entry into Los Angeles port.

@@torbenm2375: the eastern block countries formally boycotted LA as the Americans boycotted Moscow just 4 years earlier

if he had enormous capacity to establish intermediate marks 100 and 200 (between 1979 and 1986 he ran 5 times below the 22, between those years only 2 athletes and only once) of there is his capacity in 400 meters

I think this woman was the greatest 400 meter runner in history just a fact female anyway... She was just awesome

@@sinsin1697 and drugged upto the eyeballs.

@@darrenshaw767 see like you right now. You begging for attention... Did you think this woman was drug to the eyeballs as you would say.. non-american ass terminology... Did you think she was drugged before you looked her up and you still looked her up... You still watched her race about four times. Now you're making a dumbass comment looking for attention like a child... See how entertaining you for a little bit.. but I know how to shut you up..

@@darrenshaw767 okay Darren Darren Darren again... Did you inject this woman with drugs...

Testosterone

why is it brillant to watch if is mega-drug assisted? i dont get it. Its cheating. Its not legal. Its not fun or brillant to watch. Like watching the Mexican fighter knock out his opponent with steel in his gloves. Wow it looked great but he cheated.

@@miguelsuradevi8643 It was mega cos no woman has run near that time since,, that's why.... Drug assisted or not and remember she was never caught cheating lmao

All american girls there was winning later against the east german girls, were also assisted by drugs?

@@miguelsuradevi8643 They're all drug assisted. To think otherwise would be naive.

@@friedrichneidert9040 yes

@@sequiaonda78 yeah but in the video it looks like she run faster than 34.14

Well Kim Collins once won a Worlds from lane 1, and iirc, didn't van Niekerk also break the 400m from the 9th lane? I mean it happens.

@@barath4545 I remember both very well. But there is no scientific advantage for any lane in the 100 meters because there is no curve. And when Wayde won the 400 in Rio, it might've actually been an advantage to run in lane 8 because he ran blind and just let loose, but also he didn't have to run the tight curve. Lane 1 and 2 are the worst lanes for the 200 and 400. I think that's what makes this world record even that much more amazing.

Lane assignments were random until around 1990. Now they are seeded according to the semi-final results, and lane one is now often left empty for the 200 and 400. Although many runners don't like the outside lane, there is no actual evidence for it being a disadvantage.

She had to. Drug testing was added

The Americans had THG.

@@sequiaonda78: she managed it well. But Joyner also retired after Seoul as soon as out of season random drug tests were announced

@@MrStevecro Exactly

siehe griffith joyner.

@That One Koch was on drugs. They found a letter she wrote complaining to the authorities that her teammate was being given more drugs than whe was given. And they have found Stassi records of her doping regimen in writing. Americans are taking drugs too. I love FloJo until i read she was doping and was greatly disappointed in her. My god you can not win if you dont dope. So I just can not watch most sports today. Thats why i love to go back and watch Jessie Ownes, Billy Mills and others that were not doping.

of course, they are the only ones clean out there.

@That One okay American tell me the drug flojo was on by name

@@miguelsuradevi8643 man when you mention flojo let's talk facts... That rumors and speculation all of that equals ignorance tell me the name of the drug flojo was on tell me the date the panel she had to face.. tell me the length of her suspension... Don't throw dirt on a deceased woman's name without facts

no it won't...it's stood for 35 years and will continue to stand fuck nut

Yeah, hoping for a really hard track in Tokyo and fast times... It's time these ridiculous East German records were erased forever.

Probably Naser will clean that stain next year.

@@artsed08 welp....they're not going away, they'll always be there. the 2nd best time or the 3rd best time, or "the record that stood for 35 years" type thing. They're not going anywhere bub.

I'm sure Naser dopes too.

I showed my mother her picture.. my mom had never seen this woman in her life...I said Mom do this woman look like she's on steroids within 10 seconds my mom said no way.... These people are crazy on this page

honestly man you sound like an underachiever sound like you just upset this woman faster than you faster than you have ever been in your life...

Is that a proven fact tell me the date she had to face a panel and they concluded she took oral tuinahol... Please inform me and I'm very serious

And your stupid ass got silent.... So you throw rocks and hide your hands... It's been one whole week.. Sad ass

@@sinsin1697 👏❤

@@Mortimer71 okay now stand on your word like a man... You have just drug this woman name through the dirt.. prove what you saying..... Tell me the date this woman failed the drug test because of oral turnabol.. tell me the date she faced the panel and tell me her suspension

@@sinsin1697 de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marita_Koch

Rusiru Paranagama That's why their records should be annulled

@@MsSlucyna spoken like a true under-achiever failed athlete and just a weirdo

Here's the thing produced show proof tell me the the drugs Flo-Jo took by name....

and 200 meters running 21 56

Like what.. what drug are you talking about what magical drug you talking about

On one point I agree with you she was awesome I showed my mom her picture and I asked the question do this woman look like she's on steroids my mom said no within two seconds I mean look at her body the woman was just fast damn

I'm sure Naser dopes too.

alright then TRANZLIFT416. I've marked your words as have 1000s of others who will one day say "wow, that Tranzlift416 was a prophet"

There have been many undetectable drugs in the meantime (because the tests are always a step behind) , still no new record...

lmao

Eid Naser may be doping. Naser was previously coached by Bulgarian Yanko Bratanov, one of whose athletes Kemi Adekoya was banned for four years earlier this year Where there is smoke there is fire. Just saying

Good thing you're not a judge... Cuz you are delusional as fuck.....

@Gary Roberts are you crazy.... I can name 20 people off the top of my head that took drugs after 1990... And stop being weird.. karrabba... Marlene otty.. yohan Blake. Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce. ..Veronica Campbell Brown... Marion Jones... N Carter.. Justin gatlin....Powell.. Tyson gay.. this is just off the top of my head.. that argument whoever said records before 1990 should be legal is a underachiever... That has no basis at all

@Gary Roberts I kind of thought you were...I mean it's worse today they have synthetic drugs they have drugs that can't be detected... They didn't have that in the 80s or 70 if you did drug and you took a test you got caught... Not today

@Gary Roberts you would have a point. If that was backed up by facts.. I would say most of them have cheated that's true I agree with you that's a fact but not all..

@Gary Roberts oh and I apologize for saying crazy I could have used a better choice of worse than that I apologize

Are you in college.

You in a business of dragging people name in the mud.... Burden of proof is on the accuser tell me what steroid she was on tell me when she failed the drug test