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This was Great! 👍 I was born in 78 and this reminds me of my Dad(Ford guy)and my uncle John(chevy nut). Dad's had about 5 different f150s, uncle John just got new Z71. I drive a 91 mustang GT hatchback and it's Fuel injection Thank God!
I'm a Mopar guy but my favorite GM division is Pontiac they had some of the best engines in it's day in the 60's and 70's after 81 Pontiac used nothing but Chevy engines
kano b truly missed yet, out of its misery. GM would of kept fucking with it and driving it's name further in the ground. The last true Pontiac muscle was the 2002 trans am. The gto and G8 came from Aussie Re-badged. Fun cars but not Pontiac designed. Hell even the G6 was a clone from Opel or some euro brand GM owned at the time. Douche bags had the world by the balls in the 2000-2004 era. But they pissed it all away with dumbshit investments and caused the death of Pontiac Oldsmobile, hummer and Saturn. They could of made billions with these brands if they would of restructured when sales started falling. Instead they kept pumping out cars that didn't sell.
Michael, the last true Pontiac engine was made in 1981... exPres. EvilBushJr. totally collapsed/bankrupted the USA and most of the world economies and companies by Sept. 2008 after 8 years in office and caused the GM and Chrysler quickie bankruptcies... Ford would have gone under also, but it had just sold Aston Martin or some other Division and had some working cash available (if they could get it out of a bank!)... www.wsj.com/articles/SB122169431617549947 .
BuzzLoLoL, how is it Bush's fault for GM building crap? Delorean keeping GM afloat through the drug trade. And Chrysler has always needed bail outs starting with Jimmy Carter. Then Mercedes and now with Fiat.Clinton deregulated mortgage and the banking industries in the 90's leading to corruption like Bernie Madoff bilking Americans $billion's. Ford going under? Never a chance. Ford invested $billions in Volvo, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Mazda etc. and saved these companies from collapse. (which is my only pet peeve with Ford.79-93 Mustang, 89-99? T-Bird.Unchanged designs.Then the 2 seater T-Bird? What were they thinking?) If Ford made a retro Cougar, Mercury would probably be around? And as for Bush Jr? I saved up my tax rebates he sent out to millions of Americans during his term and with my savings, I bought a 09 Shelby GT500 in 11-08. Still own it today.
@@genegeneish Yes it did. When I met my wife back in the late 90's I had to drive to the DMV to get it inspected. Two guys came up and one said "Yo that's a fat ride!". Yeah, she was impressed lol. Married her and she made me get ride of the car. She said it wasn't practical. She's gone now and all I want is my car back!
@@JustMe-ws2pe Yeah well she said it wasn't practical, like how's it going to look with car seats? Yet, she drove it every chance she got. That's what women do however. They want your full attention and adoration. They don't want competition from a car.
@@Bassin_withaustin I rented a new Silverado from U-haul and that thing felt like a muscle car when you floored it, it surprised me with how quick it felt for how heavy it is
I've got a '88 Foxbody GT which would have been considered fast in the 80s. Now your average new minivan comes with more horsepower lol crazy how times have changed!
Yeh 88 fox body owner however with a few performance goodies these cars fox bodies will haul ass. They are a favorite for racers cause there lightweight and look good and prices are cheap er...now however there going up so be happy u own one me and my son both have one enjoy it 😀😀😀
I hear ya. Lots of mods u can do to a foxbody. However to find one completely stock is always worth more. Much like most classics. And yes, very happy I have one! Very far from stock tho. Few engine mods with a larger cam and heads and upper intake.
@@bryanrodarte5205 i still prefer the old 300, just enjoying something for what it is is the best way. now everything have 500 hp but also everything suck. take a 1965 mustang or a first gen RX7. many things are faster than that now but they are fun for what they are. take GM they will stop the camaro again because it dosent sell, but it have tons of power and what have you, if gm just made an exact copy of the 1969 made the engines pass the emission test with TBI and GM wouldnt have been able to build enough to fullfill the order. you go to a car show where there is ferrari and 1000hp veyron but people gather around that fully original duster with an inline 6 with 140 hp lol. that says something
Not to mention that fully loaded only meant AC, power windows , and AM/FM Cassette. Cloth seats. Nothing like a fully loaded vehicle today. No comparison.
I remember when I was growing up in the 80's and my dad had a mustache, shorts so short his balls almost hung out and his glasses were bigger than aviators but God damn..... men were men back then!!!!
Shit I came across an picture of myself back in 86 and couldn't believe how short my shorts were. I had to quick grab it so my kids didn't see it. WTF were we thinking. lol
To me as far as I am concerned that's my favourite looks ever ... The 80's were magical , the moustaches , the trucker hats , those tight fit jackets and Levis 501 , best cars , best music , best tv shows , best looking women , best looking trucks .... Man I miss the 80's so much !
Lol women today look much better no pubes don't have 3 cans of hairspray holding their dumbass looking hair do's couldn't light a joint near them the bitch would catch on fire
200hp doesn’t sound like much these days but it was all relative. Since the average family car had anywhere from 75hp to 120hp, you were king of the street in one of these…. until some kid pulled up in his dad’s 60s era MOPAR. This was actually a really fun time to have a sports car. Every little aftermarket upgrade gave you a real advantage on the street. If you had the cash, a cam and head upgrade would put that Mustang into to the low 13s easy.
The thing that really hurt the Mustang fox body was the small 225 tires and <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="188">3:08</a> gear ratio. They really came alive with 255 tires in the back and a <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="187">3:7</a>3 gear.
I recorded this episode on its original air date. I still have the VHS tape. Hands down one of my favorites, especially now cause I just picked up today an ‘85 Mustang 5.0 in the same exact colors.
Unfortunately, I did that once in my '85 Mustang GT on a public road on a descending corrkscrew turn. Fortunately, there was no one else on the road at the time. Lesson learned.
I bought a new '85 IROC-Z / Z28 that was, 34 years ago now, a giant leap ahead of anything that Detroit had built in more than a decade, not so much in power, but very much in handling and braking. The Tuned Port Injection was super advanced compared to carbs. and Throttle Body Injection, and I could just see it was right for a blower and after the novelty of owning it for a while, I installed a Paxton supercharger. It then made as much horsepower as the corvette would make later in '92, with the LT1. Later, after the wife had gone, and the 3 kids were grown, I bought a Vette. But for a while in the late 80's, I had a very fast family of five.
I’m a 80’s man and these were the cars to have in their day. As for HP, you have to remember that we weren’t far out of the 70’s. In the 70’s, the American auto corporations sucked all of the hp out of their engines. The 350 in the 1979 corvette only had 225 hp and the ones in the Comaro’s only had from 155-175 hp. That in itself should show you what they did to the engines in the 70’s. The early 70’s mustangs were to heavy and not enough hp. Then they made that little turd that they called a mustang for several years in the 70’s with 4 and 6 cylinder engines for better fuel mileage. It was only in the 80’s that Ford started trying to make the Mustang fast again. I had a 1985 Black GT Mustang Convertible and I loved that car. No it wasn’t nearly as fast as the Mustangs today, but i loved it. I can still remember the first time I saw the new GT Mustang tv commercial. At the end of it they said “The Boss is back.”
@@robertclymer6948 Yeah true. It's like the Transam looked cool on it's own and then KITT came along and just made it that much cooler. Every Transam lover probably fell in love with him lol.
***** Mitsubishi lists the Mirage at just under $14k on its website for its cheapest trim level. Certain dealerships may advertise $10k for them, but that isn't the original list price.
@rich duley I just bought myself a 1989 Iroc-Z not to long ago. The previous owner swapped the 305 for the 350 and kept its 5-speed manual. Its like a dream lol
I had a 86 and 93 ta wish I had my 86 back with my 93 engine and transmission in it that LT1 was nice of course if I'm wishing I might as well wish for the LS1
I remember how fast the fuel gauges would drop just driving any of those carburetor V-8's normally.....my 5L would go through 1/8 tank starting and warm up on freezing cold mornings - before I even backed out of the driveway.....and ran like dog poop until a few miles warmed it up fully....there's another 1/8 gone....meanwhile, my mom's 88 1.6L 116 hp 5-spd Corolla would go 400 miles on $9....less than what I spent on just one short drive to work....and it beat a Vega with a 327 swap once in a street race....
@@scottb8175 lol, no they don't out accelerate a 308 GT0 of the 70s even today. Corollas even in JDM spec which are the fastest of them are not remotely fast.
@@Flying_GC I read a road test where the 2-valve 308 did a 17.1 sec 86 mph 1/4 mile...that's pretty pathetic for a 3L V-8 exotic. The Corolla XRS's 1.8L 2ZZ best 1/4 ET for the standard transmission is just under 16 seconds....
It was fun coming of age when these roamed the USA.I had a new 88 Mustang GT off the lot for $13700 with A/C power windows and locks and a stereo cassette.
I remember when Dolby was like a state of the art feature on ..... GRIN cassette decks LOL If you ask todays teens about Dolby they will probably say "Whos Dolby? a football player? LOL
The 2 door Mustang sedan with a 5.0 was faster than a GT. And...about 4 grand cheaper. My brother's first new car. It came with a 5.0, 5 speed stick, AM radio....and that was it. And it wasn't even a hatchback. He use to kill Camaros and Trans Ams and a few Vettes back in the late 80's. Fun times.
81zed I very seriously doubt he killed any vettes get real dude stock vette had l98 tuned port aluminum heads header's and around 350 hp sorry your full of shit
Actually it did spank a few Vettes back then but definitely not all of them. The ones he couldn't beat, he gave them a good run for their money. Buick T-Type and Grand Nationals were another story. A stock L98 never put out anything close to 350 hp back then and never had headers...only center dump sheep horn manifolds.
Yeh but put that in a fox body 5.0.that 210 horsepower add headers cold air in take upper lower performance intake and my friend u have a racecar that will eat most cars for lunch and its all cheap add ons. So for not a lot cash u can race with more expensive so called fast cars lol 😀😀😀
Funny but take a 89 5.0 add headers performance intake. Cold air induction and a little lightfox body mustang and u will eat 90 percent of the old muscle cars for breakfast and that's no joke aaaahhhaaaaaa u like that blah blah 😀😀😀
Look at the late 1980's Chevy Corvette Lotus designed ( GM owned them & hand built them in America ) LT5 DOHC 5.7 all aluminum engine. Still holds well to this day. Power varied starting at 375HP-430HP I believe and revved up to 7,500 - 9,000 RPMS.
+Underpantsniper You're right, that's a fast time for a hatchback carb car. That would be good time for a 87+ car with the better heads.... I also remember the 305 tuned ports being faster than the HO carbed motors....
+Robert Elmo Low option 87 cars with the 10 minute tuneup were well into the 13's at over 100, very respectable for 1987. I am sure no one back then could have imagined what the restart of the Pony wars would lead to.
corvusala Hell nah, do a 454 engine swap with heavy duty suspension and a posi rear differential, that thing can easily compete or even smoke a brand new muscle car. And all those mods are thirty times cheaper than buying a brand new muscle car too. These third gens are great project cars. 😎😎😎
@@reido_dorito yes I am a man of culture and badass Mustangs ! I've had three of them in 83 84 and 85 convertible all GTS ! I loved every one of them ! I am a true Ford gangster !👍
i have owned all 3 of those vehicles at the same time in 1991-1999. A 1986 Ford Mustang hatchback 5.0L, 1986 Pontiac Firebird ws6 (the ws6 was added in 1987), and 1991 Chevrolet Camaro 5.7L. Out of the 3, i still have one, and it is the Firebird. Better ride, better handling faster than the other two. Over the years, the Firebird has received many upgrades, a new corvette engine, transmission, rear end and new engine management computer took the place of the old outdated 5.0L factory Chevrolet power train, as well as a new forward facing ram air induction hood. On the inside, new (at the time) top of the line heated 2002 Firebird leather seats, in dash dvd/gps/Bluetooth entertainment center, with remote start/alarm system. It's been updated to today's technology with everything you can want, and none of the crap you don't want. The Midnight Glossy Black paint job with the red scanner light on the front is pure icing on the cake. 😉
Wrong, ford couldn't produce heads that met emissions that could flow like the Chevy's heads. Chevy has always had better flowing heads, Chevy forced ford into DOHC 32 valve engines to try and compete with Chevy's pushrod 16 valve engines. And mustangs were never cooler than the IROC Camaro.
What a blast from the past, I was able to ride and and run around in new examples of both the IROC an 89 and my buddies brand new 85 Mustang GT they were both hoots to drive good times for shure!!
They felt very fast back then, they actually were quick, and the 87 grand national was a beast! Most of G.M. Cars and trucks were very sexy looking some of the best looking G.M. Cars came from the 80s
@@Len1977gt The first emissions standards were imposed 1977 and then stricter in 1981. These came four years after the cars were supposed to be already following the standards.
@Planet Purgatory Yup, just watch Street Outlaws on the Discovery Channel. Chuck S has that '89 White LX with a small block and rear 4 link suspension running sub 10's. Proof that those old Fox bodies are still worth it. No less you can still find them sitting in peoples yards with no plates and a broken window... my neighbor has a blue LX doing just that.
Excellent video. I love everything about it. Actually surprised to see the mustang outperform both cars! Aweome throwback love the outfits the style the guys arguing everything. Well done
My 90 Supra came equipt with them fromthe factory, replaced them with expensive Eagle GSC's and havent invested in Goodyear tires since. Hankooks on it to this day :)
Nice dig by the Mustang (by 1985 standards) in the low end. It seems like the 5.0 came on with so much more torque in the low RPM ranges especially the 4V engine. That Holley 4 barrel worked like magic on that 5.0 Ford.
I can attest to the IROC-Z cornering like a slot car. I walked away from many BMW's and 'Stangs with mine, and it was funny to see them sliding off the road or doing 180's on the twisties trying to keep up. The 2.90 stock rear certainly did NOT help acceleration, though it would still do a 0-60 in 6.6 seconds..
Spent many weekends at that DQ and going to 75-80 drag strip. DQ is still there in Odenton and 75-80 is just outside Frederick MD. Drag strip is there but no longer in operation. 1/8th mile track, Friday night Classic car night. This old video was a trip down memory lane!
I get that in 85 190hp was good, but everyone seems to forget that cars of the 60's were pushing well over 400hp. So for the year 190 was a lot, but nobody would have been impressed when comparing them to the 15 year old cars
That 85 4BBL 302 in the Mustang would blow away the old 68 J code 4BBL 302 even with far less compression. There were some freaks in the 60s like the 427 side oilers and 426 HEMIs and chevy COPO 427s but most of those 60s 400 HP cars were closer to 300 HP by post 1973 standards. You see it in their trap speeds. Pretty sure by 1985 the Chevy and Ford small blocks were making a decent bit more power than they did in the 60s.
Amazing cars!!! Had all 3 at one point. ‘85 T/A, ‘86 IROC and a ‘87 GT. All 3 had T-Tops and pipes. Good times in my High school and college days. Cheesy but sooo much fun!!! Thanks for the memories guys!
I had all 3 too. '85 Trans Am, an '86 IROC, and 2 '87 IROC's a coupe and a convertible. I also Had a '95 Mustang GT Convertible. To this day that '87 IROC-Z convertible in red with red leather int, 5.0 TPI with a 5 speed is my favorite car I have ever owned. I've owned a C5 Corvette convertible, and I currently own a 2011 Camaro 2LT RS, and for the last 30 yrs a '67 Chevelle SS Convertible.
I Absolutely Love all 3 of these cars, Growing up I owned A 1989 Mustang GT, It was such A fun car to drive and the sound was A head turner, 2 and half inch Aluminized pipe with Cherry Bombs turned Backwards, I was an 18 year old punk that I thought could outrun everyone. I was wrong, What fun days those were, Great Video,
I had a 1985 Mercury Capri RS. I loved that car it was a better version of the Mustang GT in my opinion. Basically the same car but looked a little cooler with the dual hood intakes and the ground effects package.
85 is a bit before I could drive but I did love the smack talking in high school. Everybody had a 9 second quarter mile car. After the army I had a stock AAR cuda and was really happy for a 13.11 quarter mile. It's all about fun.
I had an 84 Trans Am, but mine was black on top, gold on the bottom and gold wheels. I didn’t think much of it at the time (because I was in high school 86-89), but it was pretty awesome in hindsight. I guess that’s a part of being young. You don’t always appreciate those times as much because you think your younger years will go on forever.
Until the Firebird Formula showed back up in 87' with 350 TPI the true mustang slaying F body. Yea it didn't have the ground effects and all that but it was the lightest 350 tpi and the fastest and had the same handling as the Trans Am.
That 4 speed automatic transmission sure held back the IROC. but man was that a fun car to drive. It really loved the curves or to just rumble at a stoplight. I had an 89 with the same white on tan color scheme (still my favorite) and with the 5.7liter. 255hp if I remember right. It would do just under 150mph stock. 😬 My dream would be to drop a 6 speed in there. That would make a huge difference. The problem was that the chassis couldnt handle the torque in the T-Tops and convertible. Such a gorgeous car though. Still the best looking gen Camaro. The next generation should be a retro IROC. 😎
I do think the Iroc-Z looks great now, even though I wasn't a huge fan back in the day. Whenever I find an 80s and 90s Camaro/Firebird (or even Corvette) for sale, 100% of the time they are automatics. Seems really rare to find a manual, especially the 350ci Camara/Firebird. On the other hand, Mustang manuals are much easier to find.
Only thing that croses my mind would be the 1le but i dont know exactlt the drivetrain specks those had i just got an iroc as a first car not to long ago this year so ive been reading a lot about them and still have a lot to learn lol!
+SonOfTamriel Nobody made a 5spd that could last behind a 350, they were common to go out even behind v6s.The vette had a manual trans, but it was a 4spd with a od gear set add to the back. Google 4+3 transmission.
210 H P in my 5 0h H OH Got that 5 speed GT best believe it aint slow got your girl wit me In the front seat she a nasty lil ho Your a lil bit salty cuz i got 210 H P in my 5 Oh H 0h got that 302 Foxbody What you got Apples Roc Trans Am went east bound and down Load it up amd truck it you gotta do what they say just to get it to run
SerenityNow, I guess you're too young to have heard about what was at that time, a very sophisticated design in the IROC's TPI, but that was 34 years ago after all ! Hey, maybe I'm your Pop? Ask your Mama, maybe she'll remember me, if she wasn't too drunk !
I got my 85 Mustang GT in early 1986 and was a blast to drive! Under normal conditions the Holley would run on two barrels however you when you punched it the other two would open and it felt kinda like a turbo kicking in 😮