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Jim They didn’t have a proven number one goalie. Fiset was the starter over Thibault until Roy demanded out of Montreal after Tremblay left him in for 11 goals on national tv versus Detroit. Then pulled him which was embarrassing. The point is Roy never gets traded if they’re still in Quebec. He would’ve wound up elsewhere. The relocation to Colorado opened the door. That helped them win two Cups and become a threat for the next eight years until his retirement in ‘03.
@@michaelfreeland2791 I was watching reruns of it the other day, the powerplay was Gretzky-Lemieux-Messier-Bourque-Coffey-Fuhr… must be the best lineup ever iced.
The Avs don't win that cup without relocating. The Canadiens would have never traded them Roy and they also wouldn't have acquired Claude Lemieux if it wasn't for Wendel Clark having a contract dispute with the new ownership.
It wasn't really the "B" team. Guys like Roy and Lemieux just didn't play. They would have been on the "A" team had they chose to. But yeah we were beyond stacked back then
@@RyanJones4444 I said he was a bigot. I know words are tough and we white people don't bother with dictionaries, but cherry hated euros', french canadians, any even sorta lefty person, That is beyond racism. He hated anyone that wasn't a WASP. Didn't even like catholics because they are wimps. Dude was sick in the head. Oh except anyone in a uniform in which case he would weep at the very mention as he would grovel to authority while at the very same time hate leftists for wanting "big government". It all depends on what you define as big government. Cops with pepper spray and beating protestors-OK thumbs up!! Dropping bombs on other countries because they didn't vote right, THUMBS WAY UP. Want to make players have visors to protect their eye-what are you some pinko commie might as well have them wear a feather boa. I am not even joking as these were his stances. I don't watch hockey to get his damn political opinions and even his hockey based one were from an era that has long since passed by. Living dinosaur. Canada became a better place when he was fired. Most just forget his many outrages long before it was about "those people" FFS if you are public keep it to yourself. What do you think he would say about a singer or actor having a political opinion-keep it to yourself(go see his opinion on the former dixie chicks), you don't know what you are talking about. Now what about an actor that used his live show to make anti conservative comments? How would that fly with old Don? I think Ron should also have been let go 20 year ago. but that is more about his terrible puns.
You are still trying to get out of grade school immaturity of name calling, but i expected nothing less. You don't like my opinion, just use a childish name. WOW you really showed me! I am sure the internet is impressed.
I agree with you about Joe Sakic, but having Peter Forsberg and Sakic made Colorado a real threat offensively and defensively, not to mention when they picked up Patrick Roy. That my friend was the glory years!
@DiezelBurner cant really say staked team. with Foot, Blake , and Dury, it still wasn't even close to what the Rangers were trying to do at same time. The Rangers grabbed every star they could and still flopped on their face. The Av's were made up of young talent still not considered superstars. They worked together and made an awesome Team!
He should be back on TV, best hockey guy ever. Forgot more than anyone else will ever learn about hockey. He speaks the truth whether you agree with him or not.
The game had past cherry up after the lockout. He was still preaching dump and chase and fighting. While the game was puck possession and speed. He is a relic.
Mark not very. he’s been around the game of hockey his entire life. you don’t get to play in and coach in the nhl without hockey knowledge let alone host coach’s corner
Your dumb you'll have no better value for Lindros . I think that was a dumb statement. Ehhhh Forsberg Duchesne Hextall Huffman Ricci 1st round pick future consideration and 15 millions. Lolll
Don Cherry is so right in that interview everything he said came true. He said you must trade him and have a chance for the playoffs and maybe a cup in a few years and they did then he said only the Swedes will come and he was traded in a package deal for Forsberg Don Cherry is the best hockey mind ever
Except this was a full year before he was traded. Quebec did exactly what Cherry said not to do and they sent him back to Oshawa were he played there for awhile and then the national team for the year
If Lindros went to Quebec, playing alongside Sundin or Sakic, he would have exploded with more points than he would of playing in Philadelphia. The franchise would never have moved, and Patrick Roy would have been traded to a different team. Montreal would never have traded Roy to archrival Quebec.
Wrong, in an interview a few years after being fired, Serge Savard said that he was thinking of trading Roy to Québec against Stépane Fiset and Owen Nolan but lost his job before he could do it. Savard realised that Roy was becoming to big for the franchise (mainly because of Demers).
thesly74 Here's a stat you might like: In the 25 years of being in the NHL, the Quebec Nordiques made 112 trades. Do you know how many of those trades were with the Canadiens? ZERO. ENOUGH SAID.
Lindros was a fucking BEAST. Forsberg panned out in Colorado man Sakic Roy etc. Who knows if he would have been that same player in philly, but Eric would have been a beast anywhere
Lindros downfall was partly due to his aggressive style--I think he injured his knee in his first year in Philadelphia and then the many concussions he received began and ultimately also shortened his career
I dont think their is much debate that Lindros was dominant between 1995-1998. His playoff stats were also impressive. He was never the healthiest guy, but that 4 year window in the 90s was impressive
This is too funny lol. Don is basically calling Ron an idiot the whole time lol. Don was right about the trade too. Anyway, Lindros was always fun to watch.
Don cherry was a hard-nose tell it like it is tough guy ,I grew up listening to hockey night in Canada as a kid in Buffalo NY in the 70's and early 80's I love this guy.
what a shame that he is off the air.. he was the reason why hockey night in canada was so fun to watch... all because he told people to wear a poppy... we have gotten way too sensitive.. wear your damn poppies people! bring back Don!
I miss these so much. Havent got to watch Don in over a decade, IDK if he is even still doing it! But watching this with my dad was how I learned a lot about hockey as a young player!
@@MrSteelermania: No. Canada just got tired of a 80 year old blowhard whom had never played the game at its highest level and yet had a pulpit from which he could spout his archaic ideas about the sport and bigotry, unchecked and unchallenged...till it was checked and shut down.
@@SYLFan2008 🙄🙄 "unchecked bigotry", give me a break. You've obviously never dealt with real racism and malicious ethnic attacks. Off handed remarks and generalizations are not bigotry, especially given the fact that the "last straw" which lead to his firing was saying "you people"...literally the most generalized phrase you could say. Instead, people took it to mean some heinous act akin to a speech by George Wallace or something. The fake outrage was only drummed up so the network could justify booting him off their new streamlined show (which is garbage right now). He will always be one of the most beloved hockey entertainers and perhaps one day after the PC outrage phase is over, he'll be recognized for his contribution to Canadian hockey and his support of the military.
Yeah he sure was right here. Lindross didnt play for Quebec and missed out on playing for one of the best franchises in the last 30 years and ended his career without a cup. Good thing don was right about the swedes lol
@Billy Hill how so. Ron will retire as one of the most respected analyst in Canadian hockey history. Don will be remembered as the guy who got fired for saying racist shit on TV. Outside of a few pissed off boomers who will be dead and forgotten in 20 years Ron will be remembered as the best ever to do it
Dude was 100 in 1991, I love it. Coaches corner from about 97-2006 was awesome stuff. I’m sure it was good in the earlier years too, I just wasn’t old enough to enjoy it.
Don was spot on with this one. Quebec ended up trading for Peter Forsberg, Mike Ricci, Ron Hextall, a draft pick, $15 million, and more, for Lindros; they went on to win the cup in the next few years
Without the nords fleecing the shit out of philly and getting half of their team the avs dont win the cup. As a flyers fan i fucking hate lindros. That trade destroyed our team and they still havent recovered
How so? The flyers were a non playoff team for like 3yrs before lindros hit the scene, and made it to conference finals 2yrs later in 1995 and a cup finals in 1997..not to mention one of the most dominate lines of the mid 90s
lindros passed up a great oppurtunity to play on a nordiques team with some good raw talent. if lindros played in quebec they would have been a stanley cup contender and probably still be in quebec.
Did u miss cherrys' point? Sakic is a superstar and not getting recognition from any endorsements. He's calling Quebec a black hole cuz Montreal players get noticed and Quebec players don't. Look at who's on that team in 91 . Sakic , Nolan , sundin yet their not marketed. With lindros they still would of drafted well still and built a power house just without Roy
@Magnanime30 Actually Grapes called it, he said "the only thing left is the Swede's" (Forsberg), but you are right that the Nordiques weren't dumb, this trade alone turned out to be a huge part of two Stanley Cups for the Avalanche. Forsberg, Ricci, and Deadmarsh (1993 1st rd pick) where key members of those cup winning teams.
The more I watch McLean the more his whiny, good enough for government work, follower mentality shines through. He was, is, and always will be NOTHING without Grapes.
Awesome commentary. Can you imagine, if Sakic goes to Washington (the Hunter trade doesn't exist and Washington selects Sakic), Lindros goes to Quebec and later to Colorado, playing with Forsberg
That comment is wrong on so many levels😂 Caps draft Sakic automatically? No. Lindros to Quebec? No. Never. The owner Aubut is a pedophile, made a pass at Lindros’ mom etc. He would’ve never played for Quebec. He did the same in junior with Sault Ste Marie. Forsberg only goes to Quebec/Colorado if Lindros is traded.
Funny thing is, Lindros has owned a chalet in Québec for a while and still does to this day. You can fact check this. Here because of Don's recent wrongful dismissal btw.
Don cherry always told it like it was and was 99.9% right every time. Watching hockey night in Canada sitting in Michigan was a thrill waiting for don’s segment
@Magnanime30 sure he did, he was one of the very very very few players to have top notch skills, as well as the size and checking ability. The kid was 6'4 230 pounds, show me one player that was that big and could score like lindros. At the time when he was playing, there was no one, thats what made him special, and he changed the game of hockey by combining skill with size. Now in the NHL there are people who are big like lindros and can score like him too, and they are the players teams want.
Don called it way back then...Quebec traded Lindros, lindros was no Gretzky or Lemieux, lindros would eventually get hurt, and lindros would not win a cup. Oh and after Sakic got out of Quebec, he became a well know superstar. Bang on every time.
"So the French don't want to come, the English don't want to come, the only thing left is the Swedes" well at least one Swede in particular...Forsberg!!!
Lindros also dropped the gloves with guys like Chris Simon, Bob Boughner and Scott Stevens. He stood in with plenty of tough guys over the years, so he wasn't just a bully. Interesting story though - I heard through the grapevine that the Boughner-Lindros rivalry began in Midget hockey when Lindros cheap-shotted one of Boughner's best friends and ended his hockey-playing days. Apparently, the guy he put out was smaller and on his way to becoming an NHL 'er.
Don Cherry telling it like it really is. What real Canadians and the vast majority of people real want. MacLean can pound sand for not standing up for Cherry; after Don Cherry went to bat for him and got him HIS job back. I have nt watched NHL hockey since they threw Don Cherry under the bus to appease the woke crowd.
I have learned that anyone who says something is woke is a complete asshole - full stop - end of story . that aside I thought Mclean's handling was disgraceful and they did it because they overpaid - and were losing money out of their ass - he had a big salary and made it easy to save some - otherwise - find a nice tall building and defy gravity
@@pjpredhomme7699 People who say woke are just calling out leftist woke trash. Which is permeating EVERYTHING now. Woke = pushing race, gender, and sexual orientation to the front while EVERYTHING else is pushed to the back. Often by force. And if you dont like it they will come for you. You can be like Maclean and cower to them or you can stand up to them like Cherry did. The choice is yours.
@arcassells It was the Lindros trade that gave the Nordiques many of those important pieces to begin with though. Forsberg, Ricci, and Simon were all vital parts of the 1996 Cup winning team.
At 2:45 Don killed Ron's pride for 11 seconds and at 2:56 Ron got over it finally!!! Lol! Classic!! And Don's right shut up nobody wanted to hear the sellout Ron speak so you have 2 mins to talk then let Don talk and just sit there and look pretty Ron!! Man I am 41 years old and I miss everything about this show, from watching it with my dad to Don giving it to Ron!!! Lol
Quebec arguably got the best player in the deal (Peter Forsberg), and six other players. It isn't any wonder that they, not the Flyers, won Stanley Cups in the aftermath (after they moved to Denver). Lindros did the Quebec/Colorado franchise a huge favor by refusing to play for it
@@devilsadvocacy - I dont think thats arguable at all. Quebec totally got the better players. Lindros never did shit. Just Forsberg would have been enough, but Joe Sakic was also part of that, if im not mistaken. He was a franchise player.
@@HardRockMiner The Nordiques didn’t get Sakic in that deal. But they did get Mike Ricci, two first round picks, $15 million, and a few other assorted pieces that included Hextall and Steve Duchesne along with Forsberg. When you consider the other assets the Nordiques received in addition to Forsberg, concur that it was a very one-sided deal. To top it off, Flyers GM Bobby Clarke had some choice blasts for Lindros when Clarke traded him to the Rangers. Lindros was one of the biggest talents, and the biggest waste of talent, ever to play in the NHL
@@devilsadvocacy - Agreed. Acting like he's all that before even lacing up his skates for an NHL game was a mistake for him. I like to think we get what we deserve, sometimes.
