I’ve rotated back and forth between S class and 7 series for years. I’ve enjoyed my S class for the last 6 years and was ready to go electric. The dealer gave me a loaner EQS for a couple of days. Although the ride was wonderful, ingress/egress was horrible for me (I’m a big guy). The I7 won me over without even driving it. I ordered it immediately and (according to the online progress report) it just left the factory. I can’t wait! Perfect Xmas present to myself.
@@gabrielamari-fh6qj Absolutely. I’m still very pleased. The lease came with 3 years of free public fast charging but I barely use it since I have a charging station at home.
The previous gen M760Li was one of the greatest BMW's and V12's ever built. Sadly we will never see their like again.😔. As Joe says, "the old 7 was perfection".
I just picked up me G11 and there was a white V12 in the dealership at the same time. Absolutely and completely spellbound by both. As for this new thing😂
Technology made possible for manufacturers something never possible before: more features, higher prices with lower production costs. They are taking out buttons because they are EXPENSIVE compared to redesigning an electronic interface. That’s plain and simple the reason. They tell you many stories but the truth is that these cars are higher priced AND are worth less compared to previous generations… lesser materials less physical complexity and many many heavy electric and cheap motors for controlling everything. That’s also why the surplus weight (other than the batteries ofc). Cars used to have the best of the best in materials and technology but these huge ass screens are too economical to be skipped. And people love these tricks. All in all I would die to know a TRUE cost breakdown of a 2023 7 series vs a 2007 7 series.
I think it has become cool to hate on the new BMW styling on the internet. Personally I think it looks amazing, modern, menacing, broad shouldered, like an MMA fighter wearing a tailored suit. I think the dark colours suit this style best. Also disappointed in the review that seems to me to be “this big heavy luxury car is big and heavy and doesn’t handle like a sports car” well surely if you want a sports car then that’s what you’ll go and buy. Looking forward to more objective reviews in the future.
Their design head mentioned in interview BMW have 40 million social media followers, annually they sell fraction of that. Hating BMW online is now a bigger industry than owning 1.
Black colors suits this best because its so overstyle especially upfront that the black makes it blend but if you get any other color it becomes monstrosity. It just looks boring and why the fck they put a tv like that back there for 4 grand. Just remove that, put 2 ipads like everyone else and use the rest 3k to make the interior a bit more luxurios. At the moment you have 2 screens, a bit of diamond and then the other part of the interior is completely disconected. It's not cool to hate on BMW, its just a bad design and people are calling it out. Everyone likes the touring M3, because it makes the front end not as bad and it kind of works with the avant version. If you say that BMW are moving in the right direction right now and you are a BMW fan, you are just lying to yourself and you know that.
so how much of your assessment of this i7's interior quality is driven by the incredibly dull spec? the various browns and whites with open pore wood trim are SO much nicer
I have driven The latest Maybach GLS600 and Bentley Bentayga for the last year, and after sitting in the BMW i7 it’s as luxurious and high quality as those cars. Haven’t driven yet though.
When Joe puts the word 'honest' in the clip title, you know the review is not going to be complimentary! 😁 Lookswise, the nose is not exactly elegant. But the profile and rear look ok. To be fair the i7 is getting very good reviews, from what I've seen. I guess being a full tonne heavier than your M3 Touring, the cornering will come as a shock, but maybe not so bad in comparison to other full on luxury EVs.
Funny because i rewatched your 1,100 mile in a single tank video of the 7 series yesterday, curious which one would you pick if you could do the trip all over again?
16:34 True words from joe Lots of gadgets ,bling and trinkets are ok for 10 mins But deep down, ingrained quality is what you need for 3 years of ownership and 40'000 miles.
I have been waiting for your thoughts. I would like another review after four months or so. Joe really didn't like the i7 even before the review, so I don't expect as much enthusiasm as to other cars he likes.
Not sure why manufacturers need to cut costs with new car prices so high, they must be raking it in. They are now out of reach for most. The irony here is that Europe are building cars for China whist China and Korea are building cars that we can actually afford. Agree wholeheartedly with your review, would not prevent me from enjoying being driven in it though. Appreciate your honesty and frank views as always.
That is normal, when second/third world countries become richer, so do its people and such new customer segments open. German brands have dominated Europe for the longest time and now they need to cater to upcoming markets to increase their market share. Germans manufacturers can afford this, only the real die hard car enthusiasts will hate, but they majority of the european customer will just buy or lease the new vehicles while the new markets in asia will buy these vehicles en masse.
@@JayyyCloud mostly agree with you, not sure you can call it normal though as I believe that this is an unprecedented situation. I hope that EU manufacturers do not turn their backs on the home markets as I think that would be a mistake but I welcome cars from elsewhere for some much needed competition.
@@stephencollins7714 I can't say if manufacturers like BMW or Mercedes really care about their home customer base. The drop in sales in Europe is worth it when your vehicles are selling like hot cakes in Asia and making up for the losses in Europe. I also appreciate some competition, unfortunately it has become more apparent that design language is being copied from brand to brand (see Kia with strong German influence) and car groups ordering the same light units, screens, buttons, etc from similar contractors.
I have previously commented that BMW has already limited sales of the 7 series in UK, but this car can only make that target market smaller. As a potential buyer of this car,currently running a 2023 M8 Convertible, A 2021 X7 40d, and 2021 X2 Mesh Edition, I am the epitome of a BMW ’fanboy’ but whoever signed this ‘7’ off needs their P45!!! Come back Chris Bangle, you are a genius!!!! Please BMW, build something normal before I need to change again!!! I am with Joe, your on the money, my view is you can’t polish a t*** 😂
Great review as always from Joe. Nice interior, dreadful looking exterior, and BMW dealers and specialists will be rubbing their hands with glee when all the tech goes wrong 😂
I’ll be honest I don’t really like the interior either. It’s not terrible, it’s just a bit over styled. Much prefer a 7 series from 5-10 years ago. And I dread to think what this will look like in 10-20 years.
@@johnb8956 it’ll still look hideous 😂 BMW have lost the plot with most of their designs now; there hardly anything in their current range that looks good. I doubt I’ll buy another if their current design philosophy continues. As you say, the older 7-Series were lovely cars
BMW have had their Bud Light moment. I mean look at this horror story. I’m pretty sure they’re not selling them down here in Australia, never seen one out in the traffic.
I have the old BMW 7 Series and I have to agree it doesn't look as special inside. I'm not sure I like the interactive bar which changes colour, it looks plastic. I would have to turn the Han Zimmer sound off as it would annoy me. It is also extremely expensive now as there is no diesel option in the UK and no heads up display. I think I'd buy a cheaper BMW X7 with a diesel engine.
Thank you Joe for your honesty and transparency in this review of the i7. That's how I see testing, but as you know, that's not always the case, far from it.
Other than the absolutely fury-causing issue with the ESIM and the drama getting a data connection working so I can use the Cinema Screen in the back of mine, I love it.
Controversial, but I don’t mind the exterior. It’s not pretty, but it’s imposing and has a presence. More so than it’s rivals. It looks like it would belong to someone important and looks different to the rest of the range, which I like. I really love the interior too.
Did you change your headline to cut to the chase for clarity or succinctness? Really, bachelor not impressed with 3 ton lwb. stretch limo? How many of those have you flown, Joe?
Didn't get a chance to say hi at SMMT but I drove this around the track also, after checking out the Merc EQS and EQE I thought this was more impressive to be fair. Its gorgeous inside and fast but I agree the styling is bizarre and at £135k spec, I'd rather have an older 7, loads of fuel money and a few fun cars on the side. Rear seat experience is where this really shines.
I'm both glad and relieved to see this review. Dublin Airport Platinum Services has the i7 in their fleet and I have to say that it's tackiness on steroids, I asked for an alternative vehicle last time out. The quite hideous, gaudy techno-colour plastic prism surface on the dash trim would have even Liberace spinning in his grave. I sincerely hope that this is a fad, and that normal service will be resumed shortly along with the rapid demise of the EV.
love your vids joe but kinda wish you showed some examples as to why it didn't feel as nice/luxurious as the last model. which is crazy because here in australia they've hiked up the price by $100 grand from the last model
Had and s560. Looked into getting and s580 until I saw the 7 series in person. Decision was easy. Have had the i7 for a month and it’s incredible. The luxury, quality, tech and ride are now the best in its class. I was confused by this review. I guess everyone has an opinion, but this was just so inaccurate.
+$12,000 year to year on a $112,000 car is kind of a lot, I agree. The M70 is completely nuts at $170,000 to start. Methinks, they didn't want the xdrive60 to look like too much of a "bargain".
I’m surprised that the new style of split headlights is a downgrade; how the main beam is now void of any definition/style, just a light behind glass. Oh, and the interior is tacky AF.
This new 7 somehow makes me want to distant from it. That front grille doesn’t really match up well with those headlights. Once you sit in, looking at that wide screen makes me want to get out already. No matter how nice they present, we will forever miss the directness of instant command. In other words the driver will most likely need a hand massage after a long drive. Judging the way Joe wrestles with this shark even in sports mode, I instantly appreciate my old g12 750 M Sport, that was extremely satisfying even when I push it day in day out on some of the most twisty roads, it was extremely satisfying, now it looks like it’s gone for good.
