Why are Used BMWs So CHEAP? 

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@@ECPP lmao

He certainly isn't making any friends at the BMW dealer or any German car dealerships for that matter!😄

@@germanengineering204 no offense to him. Like i would be pissed if some dude was filming my var and roasting it and putting it on youtube.

It happened to me and let's say thanks to my 5 finger discount tool I have a brand new Lambo now... Lol

Yea but some are just overpriced and depreciated quickly

That's actually a pretty intelligent comment.

Bentley cars are prob the biggest surprised falls because the maintenance cost makes German cars pale in comparison

@@fernandocard9980 what?? Bentley is German 🤣 made by VW

@@Tombradyjockstrap England

Yup this!

Every single thing . What i noticed is your paying double the labor costs . It seems the dealer extorting the costumer for their share .!! If the labor cost is $100 the total labor costs will be $200.

Yep. Was lucky to find one near my house. Told me everything that is in need of replacement in my 100,000 miles X3 But was honest about if they needed replacement asap or could wait a bit. Dealer woulda ripped me on the price.

Major brands make money on service mostly, not on sales. From what I heard tho

I did the same with my mini cooper

Ice

Sugar daddy!

Thats why BMW means (Be My Wife) 😁

The Ultimate Driving SIMP

But fails you eventually cause the bitch is too expensive.

Thank you very much. Yes that plastic is a mess

There are plenty of places where it doesn't detract from value but others where it does not belong. For me it's anything with fluids needs steel and rubber, not plastic. Valvecovers are now common and stump me because I don't know yet on them.

BMWs are supposed to be a premium brand. There is no reason for them to use plastic for certain car parts

I prefer mercedes n lexus than bmw...

Plastic reduces weight and improves performance and MPG. That's why they use plastic where it makes sense to do so.

LOL, I see a lot of people in the hood driving used luxury cars.

@@ML_1515 The ones that did not look under the hood?

@@ML_1515 lol. thats how it is.

I LIVE IN THE HOOD. My street is solid Mercedes, BMW, Lexus. Not a single Toyota, Ford, Nissan or HOnda. I'm at a loss as to how they afford these cars.

@@Hemond1 LOL, they probably get repo’d tho.

But it’s a Toyota it’s…. Not good

​@@jackz4149?

My dad still has his 1984 Corolla and works just fine. No major work done for a 400K mile car. Every 3K miles, replace oil and use premium gas.. My mechanic is Eddie Murphy;s mechanic and he drives a beat up 1982 Corolla. You know a great mechanic when they drive beaters around.

Over here comparing a old Toyota to a new BMW 🙄

Honestly Toyota with it's quality is the queen of cars. I did have question does your Toyota require a lot of maintenance? I was thinking about buying a luxury car let's seriously how can you beat the quality of Toyota

Nice

Oil changes should be $40 max. You think $135 is a good thing???!

@@bamwa BMWs use synthetic oil, at a shop like Valvoline or Jiffy Lube they charge a premium and it's around $90 to $110, but if you do it yourself it's $40 like you said.

@@bamwaI do my own oil changes on a Jeep grand Cherokee w/ a hemi it’s almost $100. $40 my ass

@@bamwa$40??? That was in 2003 😂😂😂 even a Corolla cost approx $60 conventional oil

Cheers

@@ECPP 😄😄😄

Genius Why did u only go to dealer ?

@@Highlander1432 Well Genius, because that's what I wanted to do and have the money to do it. Anymore stupid questions?

You have to pick the right BMW and know and use the independent shops that build their business around BMWs business. If you're simply going to drive and go to dealer for everything well...thanks.

That's steep! Canada prices are expensive....Mine where $120USD....Before I started changing my own...Thank God for FCP Euro!

@@charlesl86 I'm going to assume he's exaggerating but walking around any BMW dealership I wouldn't be surprised if they tried billing that for an oil change. Afterall, these are cars with no oil dipstick now.

Don’t know what this is….I was told around $180 at my dealer in Ottawa for an oil change on my X3.

Yeah... you're paying for that luxury showroom.

Facts lol

Totally right on that

Thanks 👍

Great to hear!

SMART MAN! 👍🏿👏🏿

Wise man 🙌. At the end nobody gives a s@$@$ what you drive

@@DMfanforever2009 Damn! Why so serious! 😬

@@literarypharaoh1117 Could be an executive from BMW or Mercedes! 😂

@@DMfanforever2009 And nobody gives a sh*t what you think! 🤣

Those are not computers but a Module. The cars run on a Local area network called CAN. Those modules are network nodes assigned to carry out your commands. The modules are plentiful and easily replaceable. I swapped many before. Euro spec ones have many features added that the US ones don't have. Like automatic windows UP when you leave the car. The modules are usually 50 dollars.

They are not computers…

We’ve have had several bmws (and other European brands) since I was a kid and they always seem to have random electrical gremlins.

German engineering is futuristic tech which comes with unforeseeable issues that’s why they’re so saught after

It sure feels great driving a reliable and well made vehicle

“Camry” LMAOOOOO

I have a 2000 E320 4Matic. They aren't terrible if you can do your own work but I don't recommend anything off warranty to those who can't wrench.

W210 right? Usually nothing will go wrong with them as they are built like tanks. And usually replacement parts are very reasonable and available widely everywhere. Think you have got a lemon

used to be a huge lexus fan. but now the latest lexus inside is all plastic-ish too and the lcd screen is horrible to use and looks ugly. lexus went downhill big time from the good old days where everything was leather and nice inside

3 series is so much cheaper to run and still comfortable. Dont know why people get the 7 series

@@WayToManyAssassins7 series drive like you’re on cloud. That’s why or a huge sofa with outstanding drive control. Is something you have to experience it.

Dont go for a Lexus. Its so boring. There is a new 5 series out. Should be on sale in like a month

@@WayToManyAssassinsare you listening to yourself? Well I chose GLS580 not GLC300 because I don’t wanna be seen in a cheap car…

Great point!

Yup! I agree!! My BMW model is 20K more than what I purchased it for. It’s ridiculous now. I better hold onto my vehicle for a long time!! BMW themselves told me their cars will never be priced at pre pandemic levels

Same I’m a 41 year old female and I’ve had the x6 3 times because I know how to repair them myself they usually always have the same issues after certain mileage but when you own them you can go into the dealership and get coupons for parts and I never payed over 100 for oil change at the dealership if I didn’t do it myself

Combustion engines ain’t going anywhere. Too much money to be made in both (gas and electric) industries. Plus the electric technology is years away from being efficient enough to keep people rolling down the road. Hybrid should have been the way for manufacturers til they perfect full electric tech.

well look at fighter jets! Unrivaled but very expensive to maintain!

BMWs is like a love and hate relationship. Owned a 21 Supra for six months and already had a few issues popped up. My previous M cars all left me stranded due to bad ignition coils but damn they're fun to drive.

Exactly, great ride and performance, when they aren't in the shop.

Bmw are better than any car Africans ever made

@@ahzcainbree9080 🤣😂

You need a great INDY or even DIY in order to keep things affordable and reasonable

Since when is $55,000 cheap?

@@Gregory-Masovutch how would you know how much someone spent

I've had European cars (chronologically: VW, Audi, Mercedes, 2 BMWs & Jaguar) and fortunately no horror stories.

@@zsb707 I have had VW and Audi and no horror stories either, people like this always say this because they cannot afford Euro cars.

I owned a coupl eof Nissan performance cars. None of them burned through oil. Zero. NOw what about your BMW...

Thanks so much!

@@ECPP I still remember one of your winter broadcasts, “honest cars used John’s” hilarious!!!

Yeah they are great cars. Very reliable and drive amazingly. Never had any problems

Great minds think alike ‼️💯

Haha

​@@ECPP Bavarian Manure Wagon

Broken motor world BMW

Exactly

Thank you

Thank you

That’s fair

Bought a 5 year old bmw 330 shadow and paid 12.5 gbp 82k like new inside

is it NA or boosted?

@@jamesmedina2062 It's NA (N53).

@@zsb707 nice!! another reason to keep whatcha got!👍👍

you rightly should be

I owned a 3 serious and it was good. My next car will also be a bimmer but id try to go for a NA which is hard to find nowadays

If you can DIY, the. It can be reasonable. Still need a good parts supply.

Glad it was helpful!

Thank you

Haha, I know, right? I gotta move

Plenty of BMW, AUDI, BENZ go over 100k miles, this is a fear mongering and people who cannot afford Euro cars love these kinds of videos

You really shouldn't base your next BMW purchse based on your current BMW.

@@chrislim7976 I already did long ago, twice. This will be my third time. Also, I'm an electro/mechanical technician. I know what to look for.

@@jeffjeff8562 It's just a matter of time. 😅🍺

@@chrislim7976 Wait, are you telling me my car will break down in a matter of time?

Sounds like a good win indeed

They are really from a simpler time

Bought a 2008 328xi wagon, love it. Coming up on 95k miles (bought it at 82k) and the maintenance required but bring it to independent BMW garage. Would never bring it to a dealership for service. Love the n52.

@@mariannagreenlee Agree, I have a 2009 128i convertible with the n52 and Judy over 105k. Been pretty reliable and always fun to drive. Glad you are enjoying your “older” BMW.

I agree. I have a 2011, 328i with an n51 engine and it’s been a great car. About to hit 100k. The secret is finding a great mechanic that specializes in BMWs but doesn’t charge an arm and a leg. There is a great ecosystem of that here in Metro Atlanta.

Honest to god in all the above replies you're all talking about a car with less than or just over 100k miles like that is something unusual, I have a 2009 Lexus with 200k and have 0 repeat that ZERO issues. 100k is nothing.

Yes especially if you believe you will keep it longer

Exactly and i also shared the DIY ion the channel, but many people just go to dealer and get hosed on that relatively simple repair.

that's going to cost you@@ECPP

Lexus is in a league of its own. Very nice cars and extremely reliable. There’s a reason the resale value for a used Lexus is high. I’ve seen regular looking 2008 models going for 20,000$ because the miles were lowish.

DIYer s can enjoy these fun driving cars, but paying a dealer can hurt the wallet

​@@ECPP Dealer cost are brutal, and unfortunately service dept is where dealerships make all their money! Definitely like the first 3 years of service for free with my new M240i and of course the almighty warranty that helps you sleep at night 😂

The diagnostic and specialty tools are not available to the shade-tree mechanic, nor are they cost effective to own. Basic Maintenace perhaps, such as oil changes, filters but forget about any items to diagnose and repair the complex electronics.

@@AvengerAngel I beg the difference. I believe people who tune german cars can usually fix the electronics stuff. However, if the engine is broken then yeah you are definitely shit out of luck.

@@HEEHEEBOII Anyone who can fix German cars is going to be very busy, and would probably drive a Toyota.

How many miles are typically run in a year over there in Europe?

Probably because they use public transportation most of the time LOL

@@ECPP the average is less than 10000 a year. It's only a few who exceed that .

Cheap in germany...a lot cheaper than in my country... my frirnd college in germany use bmw used car ...🤣🤣🤣

Exactly

I own a small plastic manufacturing company (injection molding). The problem with plastic is that the molecular bonds tend weaken with thermal cycling. The molecular bonds in plastic, unlike metals, are not that strong to begin with. Thats why most plastic cracks in time. For example, I have an inexpensive car (Chevy Aveo) that I discovered has a plastic thermostat housing. I'm like, how stupid. Sure enough, I discovered that it had been replaced by the previous owner. If you have a turbo that's generating excessive heat under the hood, good night! I saw my mechanic working on a car with a plastic valve cover. I couldn't believe it. The internal stresses in certain areas of that part via high pressure injection molding makes that a foolish choice-weigh be damned. It will fail prematurely. Trust me.

Well….

Not always…I bought a 2 year old Mercedes and had zero issues for 7 years. I do all the minor maintenance myself. Will be replacing it before the mileage hits 150,000 because the maintenance will be too expensive then

Yep, these high end German cars are screaming "lease me!"

@@fortuneseek3rz364 …facts, but I have no regrets buying the car. It’s been trouble-free for 7 years. It’s still a very nice car. If I can get 3 more years out it I’ll be happy. It’s been just as reliable as the Hondas and Toyotas I’ve owned TBH.

Wtf kind of company was that ? Lol

Agreed. A relative lost it because he had to replace brake pads early on his Honda SUV. With BMW'S and VWs in my garage I had to hold in the laughs.

HONDA parts are more common snd mire easily available even they are shared with the sister Acura brand with the pay more brands scale up.

@@loktom4068 Easier to work on too

Not just that. Aftermarket non OEM stuff for german cars is basically garbage compared Japanese aftermarket.

Cheers

I think it's "break my wallet"

Bring More Wrenches 🔧

Or Buy More Warranty I love my 528i but it can get costly for repairs.

True run free

Thanks for your thoughts on that

I think ICE vehicles are going to be very popular…I think prices will go up and not down IMHO. EDIT: I’d also point out, no one cares what Canada thinks about going electric, if California pushes back their electrification goals…and they probably will, does anyone really think Canada will be dictating anything to auto manufacturers? Nope. If California pushes electrification back another ten years so will Canada.

You’re incorrect. In Canada the cars will be banned. Who will buy your car privately? No one will want them and the government will roll out incentives to force people to buy electric. Gas prices are so high you’d be stupid not to buy an electric car. It’s like CD players, or cassette players or a Motorola flip phone - you can only use them for a certain time until they are useless to everyone

@@Lifeisapartydresslikeit I’m sorry, I am correct. The used ICE market will be alive for years to come. They won’t ban ICE just the sale of new ones (or that’s the idea) imagine thinking everyone will switch to electric in 12 years, with rising costs of living, a lack of infrastructure and growing wealth disparity, do you really see a product that has less than 1% market penetration in the world achieving 100% market saturation in 12 years? Where your vehicle spending budget dictates how far you can go? Few people can afford the this electric future, even fewer will want to be stuck with used EV’a with worn batteries…a world where your financial status dictates how far you can drive or short range precludes once easy to accomplish drives into natural areas with no chargers. Gas is flexible, not going anywhere, despite your magical thinking and it will be desirable because the vast majority of people in our country simple can’t afford go along with Rich Liberal, ideologically driven market manipulation like has been accomplished by picking electric as the default green technology. I won’t even talk about the inevitable reveal that electric will prove to be worse for the environment and transportation like trucking, bussing and other commercial ventures simply can’t adopt EV commercial vehicles because charging even a small fleet requires vastly more energy to charge than the factory that makes them even uses. People are at the moment blind to reality and unaware of the soon to be escalating costs of this nightmare as more and more manufacturers need more and more of resources there is less and less of every day. Electricity costs are already getting high and grid capacities are no where near what is required to make this work…especially in places like California. Look, right now, electric cars are a fiery-tale and an interesting topic of discussion as no one is forced to buy them, but when it gets to that point, the people who vote will take issues with policies like this that do nothing to address global warming since the vast majority of all transportation pollution is from the commercial sector which has no way of using electric trucks for long haul. This is a misinformed pipedream right now and it’s held aloft by policies that require ME to open my pocket book. This isn’t how you make good policy. A necessity do life shouldn’t be paywalled and electric cars will do that. So if you really think cheap ICE vehicles won’t be sucked up ultra fast from the market and reused again and again to help the majority of the population avoid having to pay the big bucks to get only similar range performance EV’s compared to their existing cars….then maybe you need to spend 10min thinking this through. The government can’t make anyone buy anything, nor take away what is already made. Voters, should they ever wake up may realize this rich liberal pipedream is in fact not going to help them and their old car is not, in fact, going to end the planet. Wait and see what happens. With how things are getting more expensive, you can bet real money that this will not go smoothly especially when the US is on the precipice of fiscal disaster.

@@LifeisapartydresslikeitYou said in Canada gas cars will be banned. Where’s your source for the timeline? You don’t actually believe the infrastructure will be in place by 2035 to ban all gas cars do you?? If so you are very naive and need to do a little reading on what that would entail. So, YOU are incorrect.

i'm talking about a used bmw x7, still haven't seen any complaints about it yet

Some stuff he says is knowledge, but a lot of it applies to late 2000's when the N54 turbo first came out, but he definitely overexaggerates, and says things that aren't true in BMW's in many years now! He needs to keep regurgitating this old info to have content that young naive people will embrace, so he can get subscribers!!😄👍

I do much of my own too, but I found that eventually there is no stopping the bleeding and then its time to cut the losses

Same here…had my German engineered car for 7 years with no issues. But I will get rid of it before I start having major maintenance issues.

You bet

That will take you further for sure

Gotta drive something fun as least

Those hold their value

@@ECPP Thank God for that, hopefully I’ll be able to sell it for a decent price when I’m ready to move on 👍

Ehh I'm sure he's referring to non m series forb the most part. As M series will always hold value since the whole flex with owning one is only you paid a lot for it.

What.. in Sweden you would be able to sell if for 20k

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Congrats, and happy motoring!👍

Nice, what did ya buy

2016 535i, the N55 feels so much better than the old N20 I had

@@calebc2748 N55/B58 power💪

@B58 💪💪

Great way to have the fun but not be punished

Same. Tbh i would probably try to get rid off it before the lease is up just to be safe.

Thank you

hi, can you tell me, what is the cheapest maintanance car in Europe.. thank you

Yes if you can wrench, then it’s not bad

BMW is for the person poor at math or just doesn't care.

@@DerKirchenhocker Meaning the people who can afford not to care about a car they will trade in every 3 years. BMW reliability is only an issue for poor people who have to keep a car for a long period.

@@drstevej2527 Exactly.

That is a factor

I'd say about 10 years or 100k KM which ever comes first. BMW is notorious for engine/turbo fluid leaks after 10 years or 120k KM. Unless the driver drives it like a race car then 6-7 years can be achieved.