2 Hours in 11 Mins - The Sims 4 Tiny Living Livestream Summarized 

I think he mentioned it in his latest supersim video? I'm sure I heard him mention it. :)

Argh.. I got so caught up in the livestream. Yeah, I mentioned it in the LP but forgot to bring it into this video. It's definitely noteworthy :)

Hope you don't mind me pinning this, just to get the word out. I may do another video. I haven't mentioned the knitting thing in a video either.

@@CarlsSimGuides ooo knitting? Please do another video

Also appreciate the summary! 2 hours for a live stream of a stuff pack is ridiculous lol

Right. But the reason as I understand it is developers having to deal with EA's limited budget - work within certain time frames. So now, thanks to the person mentioned, they know how to convert the styles fast enough. :P

@@s181miri6 someone experienced in making 3D models would need just a few minutes to adjust the height of a hair mesh for a kid/toddler, plus one click to make it accordingly smaller. that's all they had to do. "strict time frames" my arse.

I played yesterday and noticed two new hairstyles for toddlers, but do they mean there will eventually come the adult hairstyles for children/toddlers too, or have they already added??

@@AllieAndPeach really? would the new hairs be on console? im not sure since i have been playing with the gallery for like 3 days

All I want is the vampires space buns hairstyle for adults.

Yeah I think you're right, I hadn't thought of that. Players are going to need to use terrain tools to make it look less.. out of place.

Maybe use Newcrest?

@@CarlsSimGuides On the other hand it gives you a reason to use the terrain tool more even on smaller lots because it takes a lot of space to even make a small hill sometimes, so I guess you can spin around that argument.

Yeah, if you could edit lot size like Sims 3 it would make more sense, but for this game it only makes sense for gardeners- otherwise it's kind of a waste of space

Carl's Sim Guides it needs a new suburb, with a bunch of small lots - maybe if the farming EP goes ahead we'll get a suburb with some big lots and a bunch of small lots?

I agree there must be some point further up where a decision could be made to increase budget. I know Sims is profitable from financial reports just not to what degree they have flexibility. We won't be finding out exactly where the buck stops, I suppose. I don't think there has to be any sneakiness involved though, just tight financial goals.

And it isn;t the first time either, My First Pet Stuff anyone?

That "we don't withhold content" was clearly a reference to My First Pet Stuff. If this is just leftovers from DU, they at least did a better job of disguising it. Maybe that's why we are getting a Tiny House pack about 4 years behind the trend? LOL

@@jennw6809 I mean, probably a lot of things in Sims has never been perfectly on trend. They get in the ballpark and almost always catch up. But yeah, pretty sure MFPS was the reference. XD

I don't know about that. For instance, they definitely might have made it match since it inspires people who like that style to look closer at it; not quite the case with My First Pet Stuff though, which is the reference they were making (which I think was either a failed experiment to test the waters on what people will accept out of a stuff pack or they couldn't fit some of the matching furniture into C&D, ran out of time or item count, and shoved it into MFPS because otherwise, it would've been a waste of time and effort.) I see Tiny Living just being more compatible, the way Laundry Day and Cats and Dogs go pretty well together. Then again, LD goes with a lot of packs. But for instance, I don't think of a Murphy bed when I think of college. That's maybe an apartment thing.

I guess for ppl that are home bodies having a smaller home means less to do therefore you are in the zone when doing any specific task?

singapore type vibe lol

@@brookmikal HAHAH same me in my hdb flat

Same, but I guess they just had to give some kind of explanation for it... Not that I needed one, the bonuses looks fun, IF THE BASE GAME DIDN'T ALREADY BLITZ BY lol, everything is already on steroids, you could get married in a day if you so wanted.

myzzio I’m a home body An live in a van best decision ever :) plus I’m nurse saving so much money ( pay off the debt ) lol

marq idky i never thought about that, but now it makes sense. i never understood how the sims team could be so involved in the community and made up of sims fanatics yet bring out such boring content. i’m sure it’s frustrating for them too not being able to perfect the packs

Yeah, EA sets up the limitations. From what I’ve seen/heard, the Devs sometimes have to fight to get content they want included/made. Unfortunately, EA as a company seems all about getting as much money for the least possible content. :/

I knew that the sims team weren't just giving up on the game.They all seem very nice but I'm sure even they are mad at EA's stupid bs :/

@@pixelatedtoast I heard someone on the sims team tell James Turner in an interview video he did basically she didnt care about the problems in the worlds because she doesn't focus on that part of the game when she plays. I dont think its just the fat cats at EA who are the only problem, I think the team itself, or at least their spokesperson is really lacking motivation.

😂. I mean they have to right?

I mean they really needed ladders for this pack- here you have to waste space on stairs if you want another floor

in sims 5 maybe :/

TREE HOUSES!!! >:U

And in most cases it looks off because they can never get it to not look like CC. The Devil is in the detail.

@@Boethion I disagree. I've seen plenty of Maxis Match cc hair that fits right on with the game and doesn't even look like cc.

yeah i think “cc is bad bc it doesn’t look right” is a really cold take. cc creators come in all sorts, from amateurs who taught themselves to professionals who make this type of content for a living, and to insinuate that those creators don’t put just as much love and attention to detail into their works as eaxis does isn’t flattering to anyone

Ungorosch There is a lot of it that doesn’t look right, but there are some that look like they came with the game. And there is some maxis-match stuff that looks better then the standard stuff. Like anything, you have to search around for quality.

starzzzy they made at least three new animations for the Murphy bed that no one asked for, but can't make one for climbing a ladder for a bunk bed. And the animation would be almost the same to climb a ladder to a loft or tree house, too, they could reuse most of it.

Valentine haha did u see his super teen sim cool one meal and level up two levels!! Be insane in a micro home

Eh, it's EA it's not like they have a habit of lying or anything. 👀

I think Lindsay took the blame on that. One of James Turner’s videos was an interview with her.

I mean, my Sims regularly wander through walls and stairs to get where they need to go, so teleporting to the top bunk wouldn't really feel out of place.

Yeah, at 7:30 it looks like the murphy bed takes up the same 6-tile footprint as a regular double bed (the shelves on the side can be removed), and I assume they need a tile of clearance at the foot for Sims to get past them when they're folded down. The ones with the attached loveseat technically take up less space - but the trade-off is that you can't put a coffee table in front of the loveseat if you want the bed to work. And it doesn't save _that_ much space anyway. I could, if I wanted to, mount a TV on the wall above the headboard of a regular bed, and put a loveseat at the foot of the bed so sims could sit on that to watch TV, and only use 2 more tiles than what the murphy bed needs.

kestaa I don't bother with television, and they can sit on the bed if they need to. I appreciate that they've introduced being able to upgrade base game beds, but I won't be buying this pack - wouldn't even if I could afford it.

Anigurl28 Ik, it’s called tiny living, they need to add lofts and ladders! And sky lights! They can’t expect people to buy this just for something we can already do

But now there is a gameplay reason and restriction, so it rewards you for doing it. I dont like having to make up rules of my own when there is no reason to actually follow them.

Ungorosch u mean lot traits based off square footage? if thats enough for you, then go for it, but it’s not nearly enough for me

@@Boethion That's kind of the Sims 4 in a nutshell though: you have to make up your own rules to have fun or you get into a rut. I enjoy relaxing with my Sims when they don't have to suffer if I've had a stressful day myself, but it's more fun playing when they have to struggle a bit to achieve my goals. I'll get this pack eventually, but for me, comparing it and the upcoming knitting pack, I'm more interested in the latter. At least it's a new skill with new things your Sim can make so it gives you something new to actually do for a while. Tiny Living just gives multiple buffs, extends the time of the buffs, and makes it so you're less likely to move your Sims out in the future. But then you're building smaller and only upgrading with... I dunno, getting a computer if you didn't already have one? Focusing really hard on your aspirations? The only true upside is that having a greenhouse would count against your limit so as a gardener, you're mostly forced to go with the seasons when growing plants (if you have Seasons.) Also, the Tiny Living pack would make Uni easier if you start with a fresh Sim and don't want to live on campus (or if you want to have a really nasty ghost haunting an apartment in Myshuno, for story purposes.) lol Oh right and of course this pack would be amazing for Rags to Riches! I'm not saying this is a bad pack; it definitely has a purpose. I just think it's hard to escape having to make your own rules in Sims 4 where the only reward is whatever you make it, to some extent. XD

I agree. if they had the bunkbeds and loft ladders. I would have probably bought it immediately as soon as it comes out. BUT for this, I would wait for a sale.

R VANK a quarter-tile basin, so that you could have a three-tile bathroom with the shower at one end, toilet at the other, and basin on the wall facing the door but it wouldn't block access. And a sliding door! A stovetop that doesn't have an oven under, so you have cupboard or the dishwasher there, or even the rubbish bin. A sink that allows the bin under, like in my home, or a bin in a cupboard under the bench like I've seen in many places. And mirror-image showers in base game! They all face the same way, and it's *SO* annoying when you could build the perfect bathroom if only you had a mirror image of any of these showers!

It's a base game update. They started off the stream going over some of the updates that came with the patch. Once he starts talking about the lot types the rest is all exclusive to Tiny Living

@@SimmerErin appreciate your comment.

Alsom the decorative book cases+putting radios/TVs on night stands is part of the update, even though it is technically to make way for Tiny Living.

Yeah it's a sensible decision by them. The nerd in me is going to have to find out if old beds can come close to competing with the new. When trying to rush/play really fast it's useful info.

Yeah ,you're right in general when it comes to variety. If you don't care how stuff looks.... you can of course just set everything outside though :(

@@CarlsSimGuides But rain and thunderstorms and snow? There are sacrifices to a small house, obviously, but at least the skills that one can raise will be raised faster. I think my target will usually be a 64 tile tiny home. But the restrictions and the bonuses make me think, and I like that.

Stephen Galanis I'm pretty sure they don't count space under a roof, just actual floor tiles. So you can build a tiny house that is just the kitchen and bathroom, and have the bedrooms and living spaces "outside" with solid fences around them for privacy and a roof over the top to keep out the rain. Like camping in a camper trailer with a very large awning or a built roof over the top!

I'm already kind of annoyed by the thought. Do all these things to get 4 25% ish boosts and then bam, here's a +100% for making a 4x8 house. I'm gonna have to look into how that stacks. IMO the other boosts made sense, just not that one.

@@CarlsSimGuides i mean I can see their point. Making a tiny house already sacrifices so much space, there needs to be a benefit. And it's not like you can cramp every skill objects into your tiny house w/o looking bad or out of place.

@@CarlsSimGuides get Koby in a tiny home and see how ridiculous it can be lol. With a base 200%, I can already see how broken it is (which could make the developers rethink about the tiny home's skill boost and nerf it later).

@@gumballz.9259 Yes I agree, I don't want Carl to end the series soon like he implied! Take Koby through all the skills!

Yeah I kind of want to play as one..

Thanks for watching my videos, Debra :)

I want restructuring of how things like relationships are handled vs more moodlets. I don't consider moodlets to be rewards for about a year now, unless they have a secondary effect. But yeah I agree, and I think many players do. I want new types of gameplay and to see existing systems improved and I'd even be willing to buy some packs that added that complexity.

I actually get annoyed everytime they release patches because it means broken mods and I do a lot of modding myself so it's time consuming finding which are broken etc

@@amazonz8590 ikr? wish EA finally acknowledged the most popular mods and implemented them to the game. dunno if i would have patience to update a mod every few weeks/months for that many years. 💀

BrillianceoftheMoon and offset the bills that come with large houses by putting solar panels on the roof. Enough solar panels, and you get a feed-in payment from the utilities company instead of a bill, or you could go off-grid and still have electricity. They'd work at half strength when it's overcast or raining, and not at all when they're covered in snow, though.

Kendo 2 if I wanted to live in a 60 tile house … wait. I already do. That's why I only build tiny in r2r, and extend as soon as I have the funds.

@@tealkerberus748 Yep. Every starter home I make is a studio type. Bed, TV, love seat, small kitchen with 3 bar stools, cheap computer, 6 tile bathroom with a shower. I can fit all of that in a 6x10 with cash left over.

Kendo 2 I'm really desperately looking forward to having my own YT channel up and running, because young single mama with a newborn baby is a thing I do. They have their ~$20k life savings and I give them $10k per baby as a child support once-off, which I subtract from the young man who got her pregnant, but at that point they're on their own. The one who had triplets, most of the baby money went on a $10k computer and a $12k bed, but her sleep and fun needs were destroying her life without those. My Twitter account for sims stuff is @mamasimmerplays, if you want to chat in an easier format.

K9DB on Mod the Sims did several, including a Tiny Living one.

It seems to me a choice usually made out of consciousness for the environment or economical... but yeah, the skill gains thing is strange and overpowered.

Nah, I prefer tiny homes, I just wouldn't agree with that relationship boost or whatever it is, they should change that to negative so the sims more often argue and fight since they share that small space with others lol

Lucija Dugandzic or add an annoyance to each sim that they go ballistic over. Like leaving dirty dishes about or not flushing being a trigger to start a fight or get them angry.

Lucija Dugandzic making good relationships better and bad ones worse seems fair - Geoffrey Landgraab and Malcolm can only be civil to each other a few minutes at a time, so they need a large house to avoid one another! And the bills thing is okay, but the skills buff is nonsense. You don't concentrate better for being in a cramped space with too many other people!

docette2015 the lot traits are determined by how many floor tiles you have, not how many roof tiles. So put the kitchen and bathroom indoors, then extend the roof to keep out the weather, prop it up on columns, and put high fences around the spaces you want to make private. Sims who love the outdoors will be very happy, and it's just like living in a camper trailer parked under a big carport!

Ja her...!!( yes here) and I had a laugh !

Often it is just the SimGurus who do these builds, and they try to make something serviceable but have those resource limits. In this case yeah the resource limits seem a non-issue. I do wish they would hire some really talented builders who can do a lot with a little, and only use those to make the lots but they are just hyper-aware people will build over it or use the gallery. But that does seem like a chicken and egg problem eh.

There is one +3 energy toddler bed but it’s buried and out of order in the build mode menu (like usually the higher quality beds are further down as you scroll but this one is before other +1 energy beds.). That bed was a game changer for me when playing with toddlers.

@@ViolinChick5 thank you!!! Can't wait to try it.

Itzel GC they said the new thing to upgrade beds applied to all beds. I checked. It doesn't apply to toddler beds. I'm hoping they will fix that, since I raised it in conversation on Twitter. 3 energy still isn't enough. My sim family are multi-millionaires, who says they're okay with giving their precious darlings an energy 3 bed? Gimme a 10/10/10 toddler bed now, and not in that damned Princess Cordelia style that my own great-grandmother would have admired!

Rana Suka "love that fresh air! Can't get too much of it! That's why I sleep on a park bench, and only ever go indoors to clean up! I don't need a house, houses are for wimps!" I can just see it, as a confident interaction.

I don't believe so, and someone else just brought up that these tiny houses will look out of place in some neighborhoods, which is 100% true. I think there will be a lot of open space in some areas without using terrain tools to fill in some gaps.

Carl's Sim Guides commercial market garden, space ship, telescope, microscope, cemetery full of dead ancestors, monkey bars, pirate ship - you can fill a big lot if you try. But we need more new empty suburbs like Newcrest, but with a proper park like OS and WC, and editable areas in each neighbourhood so our sims can have a local playground that all the local kids can walk to and play in together without "travelling." At the moment you can convert a lot into a community space, but that's one less lot for housing, and then you have to "travel" to go there, so while your child is at the playground you can't make sure the rest of the family are doing what they should. We need to be able to place monkey bars, jungle gym, chess tables and chairs, a hygiene block, community gardens, and anything else the game offers, and have the option for our current household to pay for it, but in a space anyone from the neighbourhood can stroll to!

Thanks for the faith! I spent like 6 hours on day one trying to get the video... I kept trying to make my existing app worked then went to github and had an app downloading it in 5 mins when I finally gave up. Ridiculous waste of time on my end but I'm set up now :)