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2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 | The Antichrist 

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2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 | "The Antichrist", was taught by Pastor David Rosales on September 23rd, 2018. You can find more information about Pastor David Rosales and Calvary Chapel Chino Valley at calvarycvv.org.
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Комментарии : 49   
@barbaragarriott2364
@barbaragarriott2364 4 года назад
This is an articulate , thorough, wellthought out message
@CCChinoValley
@CCChinoValley 4 года назад
Thank you, Barbara!
@jewishbride5010
@jewishbride5010 3 года назад
I loosen the word of 2 thessalonians 2-12, 2 corinthians 6:14-18 in agreement with this whole message, every man of lawlessness being loosened from my life, the lives of my family, friends, colleagues, neighbours, acquintances, opponents and the body of Christ, while loosening myself of every unequal yoke and common share with those deluded and perishing away, in the name and blood of Jesus Christ, amen and hallelujah!
@albertj65
@albertj65 3 года назад
Yes, wake up church!
@SavedInANanosecond.
@SavedInANanosecond. 2 года назад
I didn't hear the gospel once...
@ohitsustu1835
@ohitsustu1835 16 дней назад
The rapture is independent of prophecy and independent of prophecied events. Seal 1 starts Tribulation abd the improved peace accord starts the 7yr clock, not necessarily much time between them.
@EthansSportsCards
@EthansSportsCards 3 года назад
Great message. Learned a lot
@charlespetty2660
@charlespetty2660 2 года назад
What happens to the wicked living at the second coming. Why do preachers avoid telling the truth Seems that he danced around telling the fact rhat they will die from the brightness of his coming
@teresabaxter226
@teresabaxter226 3 года назад
The teaching was good and the end was uncalled for and disturbing.
@teresabaxter226
@teresabaxter226 3 года назад
Exactly......getting back to bible study. Pieces of truth doesn't make it truth
@trumpetisabouttosound9360
@trumpetisabouttosound9360 3 года назад
The truth is "disturbing"?
@silvertavake5615
@silvertavake5615 4 года назад
I’m confused
@aisthimatiasthiva
@aisthimatiasthiva 3 года назад
our lord is coming soon.....to judge humanity.....then eternal life forever.....
@elliesmyth4732
@elliesmyth4732 4 года назад
Could you do make a current video on Rapture. That would be awesome. Very well done on this one!
@tassiespirit
@tassiespirit 3 года назад
It will be very soon, so look uup and be ready. If someone asks you what you are looking for then tell them before they are left behind.
@victorparedes4576
@victorparedes4576 2 года назад
There is no rapture! Jesus said immediately after the tribulations, we will see him in the clouds, and the moon will turn to blood ,and the stars will fall from the sky..a time of sorrows.
@Mike65809
@Mike65809 2 года назад
2 Thess. 2:7 The Greek literally reads, "until out of the midst he appears or comes to pass." There is no concept of taking anything out of the way. See meaning of Genetai.
@benny-yj7pq
@benny-yj7pq 3 года назад
Verse 2 "had come' (NewKJV) is not in the Greek. is at hand (imminent future,) is the right translation. The Day of the Lord is the Tribulation is wrong teaching, an assumption. Paul speaks in verse 1 of His 2. coming (parousia) AND the Rapture as the DotL, which comes AFTER the cosmic disturbance (Joel 2:31 + Mat 24:29). Jesus says He comes AFTER the Trib (Mat 24:29-31), nowhere in the bible it says before. Paul says that the DotL will not come, before 2 events happen, first the falling away(apostasia=apostasy,revolt) and the revelation of the AC. The hindering of the parousia and the Rapture are these 2 events Paul taught the Thessalonians and there is a time set by God the Father alone (Zech 14:7), when the AC will be released out of the midst of the earth, the bottomless pit (Rev 11:7+17:8). The "he in 2. Thess 2 is all about the Ac, the Church is not a "he" and the Holy Spirit is not mentioned at all, He is still present in the Trib (Mark13:11; Luke21:15; Mat10:19+20). Verse 6 tells us what and not who is restrained or restraining. The 2. coming is hindered till the Ac is revealed and the coming of the Ac is restained By the Father till the transgression (apostasia) comes to the full (Dan 8:23) according to the working of Satan (verse 9). The Holy Spirit is not taken away, the Greek "genetai" is better translated with comes into being, until he (AC) comes into being out of the midst .
@wojo9732
@wojo9732 2 года назад
The rapture happend while people are eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage. So in other words a good time when no one is paying attention. Do you suppose with billions of people destroyed at the end of the great tribulation this will happen?
@spiritjourneyme1
@spiritjourneyme1 2 года назад
I do believe we are in this time right now in regard to trump's Big Lie!
@SalohcinDranreb
@SalohcinDranreb 2 года назад
This video is in error mixing it with the gospel. There is no rapture before the "revealing" of the Antichrist. And that "revealing", which is the abomination of desolation, does not happen until the mid, 3.5 years after the Antichrist confirms the covenant. As Paul said, "for that day WILL NOT COME UNTIL"....what day? The day of Christ. And what is the day of Christ? The "coming of the Lord and our gathering together unto him", which is the subject matter being explained. This teaching is an apostate !
@nelsoncheng4638
@nelsoncheng4638 3 года назад
Pre-tribulation rapture?
@wojo9732
@wojo9732 2 года назад
The rapture happend while people are eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage. So in other words a good time when no one is paying attention. Do you suppose with billions of people destroyed at the end of the great tribulation this will happen?
@easttexan2933
@easttexan2933 3 месяца назад
Preaching a false doctrine of escape to tickle the ears of the unlearned. Take that doctrine to the Africa, Syria, Iran, Kakystan, Saudia Arabia, etc and preach it to the Christians there and you will learn real fast how wrong you are. John said in Chapter 6: 39,40,44,54; 11:23-24 that all who believe in Him will be raised up at the last day. Jesus did not say that "all who believe in me, I will raise up prior to a period of time known as the great tribulation. In fact, Jesus said he would do this immediately after tribulation of those days. The Apostle Paul, who received his doctorate of Theology from Jesus, said it this way; " Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation". One cannot separate 1Ths4:13-18 (the pretrib rapture proof text) from : 2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 2Th 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. Who did Paul say Jesus is coming for: verse 10 - "all them that believe". The pretrib rapture doctrine does not allow for Jesus to descend in flaming fire and taking out vengeance but only to receive those who believe unto Himself. But that is not what these scriptures teach. 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; "By our gathering together unto Him". Plain as the nose on your face. A great apostacy (departting from the faith ) 1Tim 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Exactly what Paul says in 2Ths2:3 - apostasy and the man of ruin will come before we gather together to Him. And that will be at the LAST DAY !! Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, AND HIS WIFE HATH MADE HERSELF READY Rev 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. Rev 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; Rev 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. Verse 20 and 21 - is that not exactly what Paul said would happen in : 2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Remember 1Ths4:13-18 is not a separate event from 2Ths1:7-10. Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. THIS IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. This is the rapture of the church and the OT saints. On the last day as Jesus and Paul taught. And it is after great tribulation. Please dear saints, don't be deceived by the false doctrine of escaping persecution. Please don't be so naive that you can't see the hypocrisy in all the suffering and persecution the church has gone through since the day Jesus was taken down off the tree 2000+ years ago to think that somehow the last generation before His coming is more special than all the rest through the ages. Paul told Timothy: 2Ti 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. Remember what Paul taught the Ephesians: Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand IN THE EVIL DAY and having done all, to stand. Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; Eph 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Eph 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; Grace, understanding, wisdom to all who would read this comment.
@archangel_metatron
@archangel_metatron 3 года назад
2nd Thessalonians 2 talks about removing the police.
@bronzemv4440
@bronzemv4440 3 года назад
There is no pre-trib rapture or rapture before the anti-Christ from just a common reading of text. You just read the bible and the rapture is a component of the Day of the Lord. This pastor probably had some good dudes he looked up to teach him this stuff, and with those lenses on sees dispensationalism in the text. 2 Thess 2:7 is a very difficult verse. "Taken" in the KJV probably means demonic possession and "out of the way" is probably idiomatic. The Greek is something akin to "Arises out of the midst" which is also something, which to me, sounds like possession. The Holy Ghost is probably not the antecedent to either "He" and to cease restraining something does not mean to leave the Earth anyway. The text here simply does not say what the dispensationalists claim. Cryptic verses like this will only truly be understood by most living believers at some point in the future probably, so making this a proof text is not a wise decision.
@benny-yj7pq
@benny-yj7pq 3 года назад
I agree, we have to ask, who is the one who is restraining or hold back what? The subject is about the coming of the Lord and the Rapture (verse 1) and Paul told the Thessalonians, what THINGS are holding back His coming, not who. The revolt or falling away and the revealing of the AC has to come before the Lord might be revealed in His time (verse 6). Paul tells us how the Antichrist will be revealed, the one who opposes... (verse 4). The AC is the anticedent of "ho" in verse 7, that is not the Holy Spirit, who is "to" in the Greek and is not mentioned at all in 2.Thess 2, therefore He cannot be taken out of the way. The ginomai is better translated with to come as usual. Then verse 7 should read "Only there is the one (AC), who is holding back (the coming of the Lord) at present, until he (AC) comes out of the midst (bottomless pit)". Then after the AC comes (Rev 6:1&2) he will be revealed in the midst of the last 7 years.
@tpvicious7853
@tpvicious7853 3 года назад
I still cant figure out why they still preach immenant return of Jesus when there is undeniable truth in many chapters and verses that clearly states what has to happen before the Lord returns. These preachers will have their flock possiably deceived in the end time because they thought they would be gone by then.
@wojo9732
@wojo9732 2 года назад
The rapture happend while people are eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage. So in other words a good time when no one is paying attention. Do you suppose with billions of people destroyed at the end of the great tribulation this will happen?
@wojo9732
@wojo9732 2 года назад
@@tpvicious7853 The rapture happend while people are eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage. So in other words a good time when no one is paying attention. Do you suppose with billions of people destroyed at the end of the great tribulation this will happen?
@reynaldogarcia5574
@reynaldogarcia5574 4 года назад
Pastor with all due respect I ask u reconsider in your own heart the motives and to why u said keep watch for people wanting to give tax dollars to immigrants. The rest of world starves as we have abundantly yet u think we should conserve from feeding the poor weather in spirit or by papers, yes maybe degrading to the state yet those are people Jesus created fearfully and wonderfully made so rather than you being right about this comment the world altogether just becomes more ready for the kings return. I forgive u ,cause I'm sure u have many excuses nevertheless please dont become self righteous
@kevinfhaney
@kevinfhaney 3 года назад
we are here till the 7th TRUMP the LAST TRUMP ,,, just like the rich young man , the day is coming we will have to make a choice follow money or CHRIST KING JESUS
@wojo9732
@wojo9732 2 года назад
A TRUMP IS THE NOISE A TRUMPET MAKES LOL, YOUR WRONG
@adrianhdragon718
@adrianhdragon718 3 года назад
Forget Antihrist, Do GOOD ! Good deeds balance your, mine and everybody's scales ! and LOVE more LOVE and plus LOVE !
@maggielutaaya2691
@maggielutaaya2691 3 года назад
Doing good it's nice and pleases God but can't take u in heaven, Jesus is the only way not doing good things coz even though who worship devil they do good to theirs
@adrianhdragon718
@adrianhdragon718 3 года назад
@@maggielutaaya2691 Ah Come on ! Jesus is not the only way ! Moses rocked ! Solomon Ruled....Jesus HAD some good teachings but Mary Magdalene was cool to. Don't tell me that you believe in the Virgin Mary do you ??? What about Matthew 12;42 ???
@miguelconstantino-guzman7957
@miguelconstantino-guzman7957 3 года назад
Follow the commands of God - Sabbath, Seven Feasts in three times... this is all found in Zion according to the prophecies. [I'm referring to spiritual Zion, where all the feasts of God are kept (Isaiah 33:20-24).] Do not add or subtract from the words of God (Rev. 22:18-19). The World Mission Society Church of God believes in Christ Ahnsahnghong and Heavenly Mother New Jerusalem. (Isaiah 46:11, Rev. 7:1-3, Matthew 24:30-31, Galatians 4:26, Rev. 19:7-9, 20:9-10, 22:17) The Church is established by the root of David (Rev. 5:1-4, 22:16) refers to Christ - God who is to come a second time (Hebrews 9:28) and restore all the truth of the New Covenant (Hosea 3:5, Isaiah 55:3, Hebrews 13:20). Before the last judgement, we must flee to Zion (Jeremiah 4:5-7). Again, it is the World Mission Society Church of God that keeps ALL the truth and can prove it through the Bible (Hebrews 12:22-23).
@adrianhdragon718
@adrianhdragon718 3 года назад
@@miguelconstantino-guzman7957 Try my best to volunteer, be charitable, less selfish,,love more..harm none...help when can....willing to give and receive pleasure
@benny-yj7pq
@benny-yj7pq 3 года назад
@@adrianhdragon718 Yeshua says "I am the way ,the truth and the life, nobody comes to the Father, but by Me". He had to be born of a virgin, because the kingly line of Salomo was cursed through Jeconjah, no one of his descendants will sit on the throne of David. You need a revelation from God to know, Who Yeshua is. Seek and you will find, ask and you will be answered and knock and the door will be opened. Receive your Messiah into your heart!
@BiblicalBasics
@BiblicalBasics 2 года назад
Pre-tribulation rapture is taught here. I believe this is false teaching, it came about in the 1830s from England & found its way to the US where it is now dominant. I believe we get the tribulation, then the rapture, then the millennium reign beings... that's what my bible teaches. Check it out, it's the same in your bible!
@wojo9732
@wojo9732 2 года назад
In that day there will be eating drinking and marriage. In matthew 24 is Jesus speaking this about the end of the great tribulation? Or the rapture. Exactly
@SavedInANanosecond.
@SavedInANanosecond. 2 года назад
The Pretribulation Rapture isn't a "new doctrine" from the mid 19th century. Don't be silly.
@BiblicalBasics
@BiblicalBasics 2 года назад
@@SavedInANanosecond. Oh yes it is!! 1830's,, John Nelson Darby, You need to dyor. Before 1830's no such theology existed.
@BiblicalBasics
@BiblicalBasics 2 года назад
@@SavedInANanosecond. Yes it is. 1830's, John Nelson Darby. Please dyor.
@livewireartistry
@livewireartistry 3 года назад
It is disappointing that this Pastor's far right wing views had to saturate the conclusion of this message.The majority of this message was good and informative,just upsetting it had to end the way it did.I lost in the most part what was being conveyed
@RonKris
@RonKris 3 года назад
Speaking the truth about bankrupting our country and California is not 'far right wing', but is what the majority of Americans believe. Giving free health care (and other taxpayer-supported benefits, meant for Americans in need) to those that have entered our country and State illegally is, again, speaking the truth. I understand there are some that don't care if people in our country entered illegally or that they are living in our country illegally, but many Americans do care and want our immigration laws followed (and our Constitution) and not ignored or twisted to appease the far-left wing people or views.
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