Love mine. Checks so many boxes. It hits high points for work, "truck stuff" like towing, super comfortable for the family on trips and keeps up with friends toys off-road. 3.5 eco boost is no slouch (passes most vehicles without breaking a sweat in 'eco mode' on the highway) and I agree with your comment about choosing 3.5 or 5.0 is purely a test of whether or not you're ready to be a 'grown up' :)
Very happy with my 401a with the 3.5 ecoboost. I don’t regret going with this engine over the 5.0 coyote after driving both. Torque is almost instant and daily drivability is unlike any other truck engine. Very impressed.
@@dwnshft I have a 2023 Tremor, in Antimatter Blue Metallic with the V8. Is it “gold”? I call it orange. 🙂 I would argue that the V8 is more reliable. Not just me talking…I think Ford mechanics would agree. I think the 10 speed is a bit much. I feel like 6 or even 8 gears would have been plenty.
@@jimsteinway695having owned both- I just disagree. With 3.73’s- the 5.0 gets into power extremely quick- and after 30 mph it definitely pulls harder than the 3.5. The sound alone makes it worth it, as does the throttle response. Add in long term reliability (over 100k) and to me it’s a no brainer. So happy with the coyote.
@@lukaszmatyszewski7198He was talking about the option between the 5.0 and the 3.5EB IN THE TREMOR not the Raptor! He even said it's a no cost option to select that instead of the 5.0. Also he said 40 not 50. Grow a brain, goofball.
Very underrated video! This and the description of the video is fantastic. Ive grown up with Fords and I plan on getting the 402a 5.0 in about a year or 2. I cannot wait its such a great truck. Great video
Ford needs to open direct dealerships that only handles online sales. You pick up the vehicle no destination or dealer add-ons. I would open a couple of them in Tennessee
Built my tremor and opted for the eco this time around. My Gen3 coyote f150 was quite the tick machine. And the cylinder deactivation in the gen4 is the weak link unfortunately so slipped the v8 this go. Having 90+ more tq in the eco is nice i must say.
Sorry but as a tech my self u should go with the v8, less to go wrong ,that's assuming u care about reliability. I've owned both options and the v8 is so much better,also Im getting sick of fixing all the ecoboost issues and there not cheap fixes either. From cam fazers to the coolant lines for turbos that leak, yes I fix 5.0 as well bt not as often and it's less cost for the customer.
Don't forget, with the 5.0L you can add either the Ford Performance (Whipple 3.0L) or the Roush (Eaton 2.65L) supercharger kit, either of which comes with a 36 mon/36k mile powertrain warranty. Ford Performance also has a version of their SC kit that works with the dual alternators that come with Pro Power Onboard. The Roush kit will not work with Pro Power Onboard. The Ford kit bumps the output to 700 HP and 590 LB FT while the Roush kit has 705 HP and 635 LB FT. Can't get there with the EB, at least not with a warranty. I just bought a new 2023 Tremor with the 5.0L and Pro Power Onboard along with a boatload of other options for less than MSRP. Can you guess what one of the first mods will be?
Without the supercharger the 3.5 is faster and can tow better. The 5.0 is designed for the Mustang. High revving low torque motor. The 3.5 has 100 more torque . If you’re buying for a show truck the 5.0 is ok. If it’s a working truck then the 3.5 is a better motor. You need to change the oil more but there a reason Toyota went to the 3.5 twin turbo. The 5.0 is not a good choice for a truck. If you want the coyote buy a mustang that’s the proper application According to my Ford dealer mechanics the 2nd gen 3.5 is every bit as reliable as the 5.0
I drove both the raptor and the tremor. I ended up going with the tremor 402A cause I still need to tow my boat and trailers around. But I still get some good off-road capabilities. It's so plush, but still a solid truck. Plus, I already have a sxs, but I didn't really need the raptor. Ultimately, the towing capacity is what made my decision.
I'm not too sure about the HP claim for the V-6. I think they are essentially the same for 2023. The twin-turbo does have the torque advantage though. I chose the coyote with the intention of supercharging it. After getting 20+ mpg combined over a few thousand miles, I am dealing with a conundrum. I'm getting better mpg than anyone I know with the twin turbo (calculated mpg, not what the truck says). I bought the truck for the off-road goodies (Torsen) and (to a lesser extent) as a protest to Toyota removing tow hooks this year and still not having a Tundra rear locker (and dropping a very reliable but gas thirsty V-8) because this will eventually be a work truck. My biggest complaint with the Tremor so far is occasional CPU glitches. I started it up one day and it sounded like it was running on 3 cylinders. I turned it off and when I started it again, everything was fine. Oh, the other issue was that while driving on the highway last week the collision alarm went off with not even a grasshopper within a 100 yards. Peace, Love!!
I would take the 5.0. The 3.5 Ecoboost is much more problematic in my experience and I have owned 3. I drive defensively and conservatively so if there is a 40 hp difference it would make much difference to me. Also, if I'm getting close to maxing out the truck for towing I think I need to be in a bigger truck. I tow a lot. Cargo trailers flat beds, heavy equipment.... With that said, I do think the 3.5 is a very good engine as long as it holds up.
Totally incorrect on engines, stock the 5.0L is 20 more horsepower than the EcoBoost. It’s a flex fuel engine and E-85 capable, and makes 420 on E-85. Unless you tune the EcoBoost and void your warranty it can’t make the same horsepower as the V8. Both make 400 horsepower on premium.
This is true, but I have heard that the number is as high as 435 hp. -Also in states like New York and California, it can save you up to 40% on fuel costs. E-85 was $2.13/G in NY state yesterday. -Then there's a 90% it saves you in emissions. -Then there is the fact that the 5.0L can easily fit a front hidden winch! -It can also be supercharged to over 700 hp with warranty! I think he missed a few things! ...like it weighs 50 lbs less then the EB.
In Canada they have same horsepower and 3.5 has 40 more ft.lbs . Actually haven't seen a tremor in Canada with a 5.0. I've been thinking of trading and this is what I'm thinking of. All 3.5 so far.
Not true on the Cost. Loaded Tremor 2022/2023's $74-75K range MSRP. You can get these under Invoice which you cannot do on the Raptors ! Tremor is amazing!
Without the supercharger the 5.0 is a really poor choice for a truck. That’s why it’s a no cost option. The 3.5 is more powerful. The 3.5 tows better. The 3.5 is faster. The 3.5 has way more torque. The 3.5 is what Toyota uses now for a damn good reason. You can chip the 3.5 to 700 hp
From what I've seen, the 3.5 doesn't give a truly significant increase in fuel efficiency compared to the 5.0. Unless you live at high altitude, maybe.
Power is the same, 400 horsepower. Torque is not power. The 5.0 actually is capable of more horsepower than the 3.5 on the stock file, since it’s a flex fuel engine and most dynos show 360-370 horse at the rear wheel stock on E-85. That puts the 5.0 well over 400 horsepower before any tune is introduced.
I love the look of the raptor, and that buttery smooth drive of its rear five link coil suspension, but I am concerned about the width of the tires washing me around from side to side in tracks made for more narrow standard vehicles, from trails to highway tracks in deep snow between lanes during big snowstorms, and the Tremor is basically the standard width maybe an inch or two wider so fine. Kind of like the Raptor is an open space runner and the Tremor is a trail runner. So I'm torn. Any thoughts on that? I'm also considering a loaded Platinum with the fx4 and some mods like a lift and offset, to get those luxury seats for the long highway drives. Any thoughts on that? Wish I could get the Raptor's 5 link rear suspension and the Platinum's max luxury massaging, reclining seats all in the Tremor. Round and round. Help.
Tremor is most definitely a trail truck and raptor is most definitely a baja based truck… that’s the main difference, they’re not made for the same purpose or environment even though they’re both “off road trucks” Platinum f150s are disgusting… if you want a platinum get a 250-350 platinum with the tremor package otherwise it just looks like a neutered truck
Building an XLT loaded up and a Tremor 401a they come in very close in price here in Canada. Factor in factory lift and good off road tires.....which I would have to do it's a no brainer for me to go with a Tremor next F150.
@@simd510 I am not a fan. I have a 23 f150 tremor that is agate black. I wanted the blue one but finding one with a V8 was impossible. Mine looks great with tint on the front windows.
I really want another Raptor, had an 2020 802a, but I'm also looking at getting a travel trailer, so this has me leaning towards a Tremor. Payload is the limiting factor for the trailer I want - Tremor still isn't a huge towing vehicle but has about 300 more lbs of payload.
The horsepower is the same, 400 and 400. 3.5 or 5.0. You are talking 5.0 Tremor vs 3.5 Raptor, 400 vs 450. If you make a video...know your numbers or shut up. If you don't know... what is the review for???
@@dogshmog Not like my Whiiple supercharged 5.0... My 2023 F150 is at 800 horsepower and way faster than my buddies 2023 Raptor... just saying. I am a retired Ford Senior Master tech, and hate the 3.5 issues even though I realize it is amazingly powerful and was thrilled when it came out. I would hate to work on one. I have a 2023 5.0 Platinum with the blower for my street hot rod truck, and a 2023 5.0 Tremor for my daily driver. With E85 Livernoise tune and exhaust, 465+ horse power, and doesn't sound like it has a corn cobb stuck up it's ass. I just love that V8 sound. Cannot be matched. To each there own, but my trucks do not go back to the dealer, I repair them. You can keep the Eco boost. I can share pics of my trucks if you need verification and yes, I installed my blower myself.
NO FOX live valve shock,, no good for serious off road condition,,, man,, and the locker only for the rear,,, not the front,, this is only half good,, not the whole thing good...like raptor----which offer front and rear lockers,, tremor rear suspension still use leave spring----which is out dated,,,passive...
WRONG! The Raptor is an open front diff from 2023 onward. Prior Gen 3 (MY 21 and 22), front was Torsen as was previous Gen 2 Raptors, no locking front diff ever on Raptor (i dn't know about Gen 1). Tremor has a Torsen option, Raptor does not, only open diff.
The price comparison is an irrelevant factor in my opinion as it only weighs on folks that don’t understand the two trucks. Even if they were the same price as optioned, folks needing tow capacity equipped daily driver will likely still gravitate to the Tremor, where as true off-road fans will need to give up some of that for the off-road capabilities offered by the Raptor. In this sense they’re two different vehicles more so than two different trim levels as the price comparison implies.
