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Fun fact: Lewis Carroll introduced Humpty Dumpty for his sequel to Alice Adventures in Wonderland: Through the Looking Glass as an egg. The second meaning was the accurate meaning, since to any Carroll lover knows, he absolutely hated the Queen at the time, Queen Victoria.
The idea that Humpty Dumpty was an egg was further solidified by John Tenniel’s illustration of Alice and Humpty Dumpty for the book. And the funny thing was that despite Lewis Carroll hating Queen Victoria she was actually a big fan of “Alice’s Adventure’s in Wonderland” and “Though the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There.” So much so that she wrote Charles Lutwidge Dodgson, the real name of Lewis Carroll, asking for more of Lewis Carroll’s work. He sent her a book of mathematics he wrote while claiming not to be Lewis Carroll.
@@prestonestes1388 I’ve also heard that since the Queen absolutely anyone who wrote or drew any sort of satirical material about her, they were to be beheaded immediately after they were found out. The Queen knew about Carroll’s Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland and somehow got a hold of a copy of his book. (I can’t recall the particular detail as to how she retained a copy of Carroll’s book, I just knew that she somehow retained a copy). When she got to the part of the crochet/trial in Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, Carroll was ironically pardoned; the Queen apparently remarking, “Well, Carroll’s dead accurate as to how I run my Queendom…”
Humpty Dumpty was about a Cannon, it sat on a wall, during battle it was knocked or blown off the wall, and all the kings horses (dragging the heavy cannon parts) and all the kings men, couldn't put humpty together again. It was a siege cannon. Or possibly a mortar cannon. What else would be on a high castle wall that could have a great fall?
More specifically, it was a cannon on the wall of Colchester that was used by the Royalists during the English Civil War for the last two years of it. Nothing to do with anyone sitting on a wall, much less a drunkard.
There is a nursery rhyme we would sing as kids. called "So so suck your toe". In retrospect, the original song lyrics were quite controversial. It has been revised since. The ORIGINAL version was: So, so, suck your toe, all the way to Mexico When you're there, rape a bear and come back in his underwear. We'd sing that as elementary school kids in the 1970's, mindlessly unaware of its meaning. It has since been changed, apparently to: while you're there, cut your hair and don't forget your underwear.
12:07 - "Jack n Jill went up the hill- each with a buck-&-a-quarter- Jill came down with $2.50!" -Andrew Dice Clay 1988 13:50 - "Mary Mary quite contrary- how does your garden grow? With silver bells & cockleshells shells... and an acre-&-a-half of KILLER SHIT!!" -George Carlin 1974
I had a mulberry bush in the back yard of a house I lived in as a kid. This same house also had a honeysickle bush. Sweet times! Honeysuckle sap was not very much per flower, but it was still good.
I'm pretty sure Humpty Dumpty was about a cannon placement that collapsed, and the king's army being unable to salvage the cannon. Also, I'm a ride or die sort when it comes to the old school nursery rhymes, and absolutely hate how they've been changed up and softened for the new generation, the altered lyrics just never sit well, like "Rainbow Sheep" over "Black Sheep" (It'd honestly make it "Baby Sheep" or "Little Sheep", so it doesn't have to specifically be any sheep in particular), or like Tom Tom, the Piper's Son stealing a pig and away he run, but now it's having a pig that liked to run.
I remember an episode of that old show Lamb Chop's Playalong. Charlie Horse: When the bough breaks, the cradle will fall! And if I were a baby, this is the only thing I wouldn't want to hear at all!
The only time I've heard "Baa Baa Black Sheep" was in Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, where I now attribute black sheep with a child freaking out.
Okay, so I love telling this story. I grew up in Louisiana in the 90s. I grew up thinking Mardi Gras was a national holiday, y'all. My sister would tell me often, "Brick wall, waterfall, boy, you think you know it all..." I just discovered there's more to that, but that's as far as she got. What is my point, you ask? Well, I must have heard See Saw Marjorie Daw on Barney or something because when I got on a see-saw, I would sing, "See-saw. Mardi Gras. Boy, you think you know it all." I thought it was a legit rhyme for a time and was the actual words. Weird that I was today-years-old to find an actual song close to what I sang as a toddler.
"Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall" could mean Richard III sitting on his horse, with cavalry charges being like walls to infantry in ancient warfare. "Humpty Dumpty had a great fall" could refer to him being de-horsed after it was stuck in marshland at the Battle of Bosworth. "All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty together again" could refer to him being hacked to death after being de-horsed, because the wounds on his skeleton showed him being lynched by heavily armed soldiers. Humpty is almost always shown landing on his head, and the wounds on Richard III showed immense head wounds, including a halberd that hacked the back of his skull off revealing his brains. "Catch a n***er by his toe" is still known in the UK, but we now normally use "nicker". To "nick" means to steal something in UK slang, so a "nicker" would mean a thief. "London Bridge is falling down" probably refers to the medieval London Bridge, which was falling apart when it was replaced by the Victorian London Bridge. The fact that they suggest so many materials to use to rebuild it could refer to there being so many London Bridges in history, with the earliest known London Bridge being wooden and was built by the Romans.
I knew about the Plague references in Ring Around O Rosie, but didn't know about the others until watching this. Holy crap, this is disturbing to say the least.
Humpty dumpty was a cannon that fell off a wall during a battle and broke during the English civil war. All the kings horses and all the kings men (literally the English military) couldn't fix it so it remained broken. Lewis Carroll made the depiction of the egg in his Alice stories
Old Mother Hubbard 0:28 See Saw Margery Daw 2:15 Ladybird Ladybird 3:13 This Old Man 4:10 Goosey Goosey Gander 5:06 Humpty Dumpty 6:09 Eeny Meeny Miny Moe 7:02 Rock a Bye Baby 8:00 Bas Baa Black Sheep 8:53 Pop Goes The Weasel 9:44 Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush 10:40 Georgie Porgie 11:22 Jack & Jill 12:07 Rub a Dub Dub 12:59 Mary Mary Quite Contrary 13:48 It's Raining It's Pouring 14:47 Ten Little Indians 15:28 Ring Around The Rosie 16:13 London Bridge 17:22
Ever listen to the song “Clementine?” It’s about a guy’s daughter who falls into the river and dies - but no worry! He kisses her sister and off they go! TOTALLY about incest! Oh my darling, oh my darling Oh my darling, Clementine You are lost and gone forever Dreadful sorry, Clementine In a cavern, in a canyon Excavating for a mine Dwelt a miner, forty-niner And his daughter, Clementine Oh my darling, oh my darling Oh my darling, Clementine You are lost and gone forever Dreadful sorry, Clementinep Light she was and like a fairy And her shoes were number nine Herring boxes, without topses Sandals were for Clementine Oh my darling, oh my darling Oh my darling, Clementine You are lost and gone forever Dreadful sorry, Clementine Drove she ducklings to the water Ev'ry morning just at nine Hit her foot against a splinter Fell into the foaming brine Oh my darling, oh my darling Oh my darling, Clementine You are lost and gone forever Dreadful sorry, Clementine Ruby lips above the water Blowing bubbles, soft and fine But, alas, I was no swimmer So I lost my Clementine Oh my darling, oh my darling Oh my darling, Clementine You are lost and gone forever Dreadful sorry, Clementine How I missed her! How I missed her How I missed my Clementine But I kissed her little sister I forgot my Clementine Oh my darling, oh my darling Oh my darling, Clementine You are lost and gone forever Dreadful sorry, Clementine
There is a nursery rhyme that it's "Alicia va en el coche" (Alice goes in the car). Masapán edited the song to make it soft and with nothing wrong, but the original version it's not only implied in the firsts lines that Alice is in a FUNERAL CAR, but the last lines SHOWS that Alice was, indeed, ill and she was dead in a "bed of crystal roof" (the funeral car).
At one of my old houses, I actually had a mulberry bush in my backyard. However, it was actually in one of the corners of my yard, so I actually wouldn't go "round" the mulberry bush as much as *past* it.
8:02 - One of the most disturbing versions of this lullaby goes "Rock-a-bye baby, On the tree top, When you grow old, Your wages will stop, When you have spent What little you made, It's off to the Poorhouse and then to the Grave". You can pretty much figure out from the lyrics what this particular version is about.
Sometimes I think that some of the nursery rhymes are actually really innocent, and then some random nerd decided to give the song darker lores. Just like how today we have innocent children shows, and then some random guy decided to write a Creepypasta story and conspiracy theory behind it like Ed, Edd, n Eddy is apparently about dead kids in purgatory.
Humpty Dumpty was a Canon, that sat on a wall. The wall broke down and humpty dumpty had the great fall. Thats why all the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put humpty back together again. Because he was a canon. Look it up.
I was thinking the Lizzy Bordon skiprope rime would end up here. "Lizzy Bordon took an axe, gave her mother 40 wacks! When she saw what she had done, gave her father 41!"
Actually the Humpty Dumpty nursery rhyme refers to a French cannon that fell from its battlement and shattered on the ground and despite the best efforts of the kings men they could not repair it.
so, based on the lack of research on the one that is easiest to debunk, as seen futher in my comment, I refused to watch more. here is the easy evidence that you didn't do research and are just talking about stupid rumours that tumblr came up with in the early 2000s. Humpty dumpty- The original story pre-dates Carroll’s take on the character. According to a number of military historians, Humpty Dumpty was the name of a cannon used by the Royalists during the English Civil War. The conflict raged from 1642 to 1649, and in June of 1648, Humpty Dumpty was stationed on the walls of Colchester. It was one of several cannons erected to try and keep Parliament’s army from taking the city. The next month, however, the Parliamentary forces heavily damaged the walls beneath Humpty Dumpty with their own artillery. You can guess where this is going: Humpty Dumpty had a great fall, and broke into pieces.
I only knew "Eeny Meeny Miny Mo" with the n-word until I was in high school in the early 2000s. (Growing up in '90s Australia, I didn't know what the word meant.) My understanding was that "tiger" was substituted over time to avoid using the slur.
Actually, “Mary Mary Quite Contrary” was referring to Mary Queen of Scots. “The pretty maids all in a row” were referring to guillotines/axes alright but for Mary Queen of Scots’s beheading. And this Mary also had a fertility problem at one point … a miscarriage to be precise.
the Guillotine invented in 1789 i find this stuff years ago , in fact I am aware of the backstory of ring around the Rosey back when i was a kid (around 8 years old )
I think the reference to Mary 1 of England using the guillotine on people can be ruled out as it was more than 200 years after her death that it was invented.
Come to think of it, does anyone know the origin of Mary and her little lamb? She raised the little ball of wool from birth ‘cause the mother abandoned it, therefore, they’ve been inseparable to the point where it followed her to school one day. Look it up for yourselves if you don’t believe me.
The title of "Grim Stories" wasn't only because of a writer's name! And the point of most was to teach a lesson or morality! A few others were history!
Jack and Jill went up the hill each with a buck and a quarter, Jill came down with $2.50...OH!!😂😂😂 Go look up Andrew Dice Clay telling nursery rhymes, for you younger people who have no idea who Dice Clay is yourself a favor be prepared to experience the sensation of actually getting Dumber as you listen to more of him but at least it's entertaining LOL
You do realize that the guillotine was invented in the 1700's and Mary the first was sometime in the 1500's, right? Maybe there were something else that was like a guillotine but it certainly wasn't called that then. Just a little detail that was bugging me.
Some nursery rhymes or children's songs with innocent simple lyrics, yet most likely to have dark or scary meanings behind it: ABC Song Twinkle Twinkle Little Star Hey Diddle Diddle Old McDonald Had A Farm Daddy Finger Daddy Finger Where Are You Johnny Johnny Yes Papa One Two Buckle My Shoe Wheels On The Bus Star Light Star Bright A Tisket A Tasket Yankee Doodle Itsy Bitsy Spider Hickory Dickory Head Shoulders Knees And Toes Five Little Monkeys Horsey Horsey Row Row Row Your Boat Ants Go Marching 12345 Once I Caught A Fish Alive She'll Be Coming Round The Mountain When She Comes B-I-N-G-O Mr Sun (Please Shine Down On Me) A Sailor Went To Sea A Wise Old Owl Are You Sleeping Brother John Five Little Ducks Five Little Speckled Frogs The More We Get Together For He's A Jolly Good Fellow If You're Happy And You Know It Boom-de-ah-da (I Love The Mountains) I'm A Little Teapot Little Bo Peep One Potato Two Potato Simple Simon Skidamarink Soft Kitty Three Little Kittens Patty Cake Yankee Doodle
So I know for a fact that they still use the music to "Ten Little Indians" intensly uncomfortable using that title... The new words are one little two little three little witches flying over haystacks flying over ditches... I'm not sure it makes anything better considering where that music originates. But then again the meaning of things can change overtime. Look at the pink triangle
Pretty sure that 'See Saw Margarey Daw' is about an apprenticeship. In the master/apprentice relationship, the apprentice wouldn't get a lot of money because part of the wages includes room and board, plus the learning of a trade.
Why don't you @ least have ALL of these nursery rhymes sung in their original tunes? I could barely identify some of them except by lyrics & yes the irony was/is that children now do not see the dark side of these ditties & parents either do not know or care of the "the teaching historical events/warnings of danger/ moral threats" purpose for which they were written over past centuries. I remember explaining some of these examples to my small children & they were duly horrified or totally confused😅.
I grew up in 80s England and at school we all used the racist version of Ernie newbie and as I grew up in a mining village, there were just whites so nobody ever told us to stop. So it's not surprising that Clarkson grew up with that version and most people will revert back to what they first learnt
