I went to high school in kentucky. One of my friends were from a mixed family. His mom was white and his dad was black. On his tests that asked for race he would always bubble both white and african american. It would ALWAYS end up as an argument with the teacher.... and he would never budge. One of the reasons I respected him so much.
@@nuuhishere6752 if skin color is all there is to race then why even call it a race? Because what cocludes from what you say is that skin color is recessive in white ppl, not that their genes in general are.
@@nuuhishere6752 Doesn't it make the statistics more accurate if the people compiling them know how many mixed-race people are taking the exam, and have a more detailed understanding of their background than simply "mixed race", which is a rather broad term? (And genes for high melanin are _incompletely_ dominant. This means that the offspring will demonstrate a phenotype that is somewhere between the phenotypes of the homozygous parents. Not to be confused with co-dominance, which is when the phenotype is both--eg. AB blood-type.)
@@Doorisessa It would've made the statistics more accurate but there are more mixed race combinations than there are races in the first place. It would've been very inefficient to make separate groups for every combination of which there aren't many compared to the others. And black genes (speaking only about your body) are very much prominent. You can't deny that. Maybe intellectually they are more prone to their white parent (which I still don't really see)
This reminds me of a talk I once went to by a former white supremacist..... He said that once, when he was still in deep, the group was joking around and someone said, 'Hey, what if we win? What if we get rid of all of them and make the ethno-state?' and someone quipped back 'Then we start on everyone with brown eyes'. And they laughed, and he laughed too, but something clicked on his head and he realized it was true, they *would* do that. And that was what put him on the path of climbing back out again.
Good for him and that is terrifying. Makes me wonder what their ultimate goal is - eventually you would eliminate everyone but yourself. Which makes me think white supremacy comes from a warped version of the evolutionarily beneficial instinct that one is only safe with one's kind. We as humans no longer need to eliminate everyone (or anyone) not like us to survive, but surface that impulse and corrupt it and there are your fascists. Which makes it even more disgusting somehow. To be so unaware of your own fear that you would do away with everyone else and not know why...
As a minor point, most monarchies were justified not on 'The king is groomed from birth' (until monarchies' legitimacy starting falling apart with revolutions) but on 'The King is granted his rule by the Grace of God Almighty'.
This. "The king being groomed for it" is more of a modern justification for monarchy, though it leaves apart the question of who grooms the king and for which purpose...
@@Kyrielsh1 Easy question. That king was groomed by the previous king. That's literally how monarchy works. Prior to the printing press hereditary governing made sense for the same reason blacksmithing and other jobs were hereditary. The technology to give everyone a general education and then figure out which people have the most aptitude for some job didn't exist yet. Learning enough to even have a choice of more than one career would have been prohibitively expensive. Hence passing on skills from father to son was the only cost effective method to preserve professional competence in society.
@@krushervimose4599 in the video, he was talking about the modern justification for monarchies, not the medieval. Maybe it is you who knows nothing about history
In Wolfenstein: The New Colossus, there's an interesting conversation between some NPCs on the streets of Roswell, New Mexico (For context, this is an alternate world where the Nazis won WW2 and have conquered America). A Nazi approaches two Klansmen and starts talking to them about their German lessons. After hearing the Klansmen butcher his language, the Nazi cautiously advises them to work harder at learning the language, because soon, "The wheat will be separated from the chaff". The devs knew exactly what they were talking about with that game.
all alt-right people really think they'll be the ones on top up until the other fascists kill them too once they stop having minorities to oppress and kill, they'll make up new ones out of their own group and start opressing and killing again
There’s a fantastic video on the game from Jacob Geller about the game and it covers that moment in the game. Fascism is a snake that will eat itself, and those backwater hicks who can’t even say “Danke Shoen” correctly will be first in line after all the blacks and Jews and gays are dealt with
MINOR CORRECTIONS: 1) Hitler, though he ran for election, his position as Chancellor was appointed to him to appease the Nazi Party. The larger argument that he took power through through political means rather than through revolution holds, but many folks have pointed out that "Hitler was elected" is Nazi revision of history. I apologize for the mistake. 2) I have also been informed that historians draw a distinction between "death camp" and "concentration camp," so "the first death camp was created to throw communists in" is also inaccurate; Dachau was a concentration camp where many died, but is not considered a death camp because it was not part of the Final Solution. Again, the larger argument stands. 3) The American Revolution was a revolt from the colonies, but the people revolting were not, in any sense, "colonized." The Americans were the colonizers. This was a case of picking the wrong word when writing quickly and accidentally sounding like a ding dong. 4) OK, the claim that Mussolini took power in a coup is ALSO fascist propaganda, because the "coup" in question was a march that was handily outnumbered by governmental authorities, but the Italian king decided to just GIVE Mussolini the position of Prime Minister rather than have a violent conflict, even if Mussolini was all but guaranteed to lose the fight. This was later spun as a "successful coup." I will add to this thread if there are further corrections.
Also, it might help to know some of what Hitler really said, to shut down right-wing misinformation. a few examples: "we stand for the maintenance of private property....we shall protect free enterprise as the most expedient, or rather the sole possible economic order" Adolf Hitler, Heiden "the Fuhrer" pg 105 "democracy will in practice lead to the destruction of a peoples true values ....when they surrender themselves to the unlimited democratic rule of the masses, the capitalists slowly lose their former position; for the outstanding achievements of individuals are now rendered practically ineffective through the oppression of mere numbers" - Adolf Hitler speech to the industry club Jan 27, 1932 "There are only two possibilities in Germany; do not imagine that the people will forever go with the middle party, the party of compromises; one day it will turn to those who have most consistently foretold the coming ruin and have sought to disassociate themselves from it. And that party is either the Left: and then God help us! For it will lead us to complete destruction - to Bolshevism. Or else it is a party of the Right which at the last, when the people is in utter despair, when it has lost all its spirit and has no longer any faith in anything, is determined for its part ruthlessly to seize the reins of power - that is the beginning of resistance of which I spoke a few minutes ago. Here, too, there can be no compromise - there are only two possibilities: either victory of the Aryan, or annihilation of the Aryan and the victory of the Jew." -Adolf Hitler, April 12, 1922 "We chose the red color of our posters after careful and thorough reflection, in order to provoke the left, to drive them to indignation and lead them to attend out meetings if only to break them up, in order to have some chance to speak to the people." - Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf ch.7 "The German state is gravely attacked by marxism" -Adolf Hitler, mein kampf pg 535 "A grave economic symptom of decay was the slow disappearance of the right of private property, and the gradual transference of the entire economy to the ownership of stock companies." -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Ch. 10 "I absolutely insist on protecting private property… we must encourage private initiative." -Adolf Hitler
15:18 "bigotry is intersectional" Yes, Yes, Yes!!! That reminds me of something Martin Luther King jr once said: “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly”
Innuendo Studios. Again, great video. I don't know if you've read this before, but I have an op-ed in mind that mirrors a lot of your points: hierarchy, divine right of wealth, us vs them, etc, etc. Google this title: "Donald Trump, Brett Kavanaugh, and the Rule of Pampered Princelings". The op-ed is from the intercept And yah i noticed this, for example, with the political-right wanting "innocent until proven guilty" for Brett Kavanaugh's job application, but don't give a fuck about police doing stop and frisk on any random (usually poor Black, Hispanic, Native American) person. Edit: Here is the Op-ed: theintercept.com/2018/10/10/donald-trump-inherited-wealth/ Keep up the great work
the thing about whiteness being "diluted" through races mixing is actually only used when it serves the "us." for example, when the settlers wanted land in north america, they invented the blood quantum-- meaning that you're only native american if you're a certain percentage of native genetically. this way, as native people and white people had children together (or often, white people raped native women) and their children were deemed white, native people began to "disappear" from a legal standpoint. and if there are no more "real" native people on the land, it's free for the taking. real fucked up and completely contradictory to the one-drop rule, but that doesn't matter because it gets the "us" what they want (blood quantum = more land, one drop rule = more slaves).
Unless of course, you want to wear a headdress or get a position at Harvard or sell a book about wolf-magic and crystals, in which case claiming 1/646th indigenous ancestry makes you Black Elk and Tecumseh combined.
@@alpenglw4743 - As per the BJS, AmerIndian victims of "sexual assault" describe 82% of offenders as "white". But there is no definition of "sexual assault" or "white" (vs. mixed). For "rape" in particular, 25% of offenders are family members, 43% are acquaintances, and 32% are strangers. www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/aic.pdf
This is a lot of what Slavoj Žižek says about ideology. His famous joke "I'll have a coffee without cream. -We are out of cream, so I can bring you a coffee without milk." does a wonderful job at illustrating this. Materially, it's the same black coffee, but in ideological terms, those are 2 different cups of coffee. Ideology very often functions on this level of what something isn't, and what something isn't is often subtly implied, rather than overtly stated.
Every time I watch this, I hit the part about white fascists narrowing the definition of whiteness in the absence of nonwhite people and I am viscerally reminded of my first day at a new elementary school. My new school, unlike my previous one, was almost entirely white--the first thing I said when I saw the playground was, "Look at all the blondes!" because I'd never seen so many in one place. On my first day there, as a seven-year-old, I walked up to another little girl, introduced myself, and suggested we be friends. She told me she wasn't allowed. Why not? I asked. "You're dark," she said. I was baffled. I had been one of the palest-skinned students at my previous school, and wore bright colors; "dark" was a strange word to hear applied to myself. "Your hair," she said, and explained that her mother had told her she was only allowed to be friends with blondes. My hair, about the color of dark chocolate, was unacceptable. The school was so white that the students (and their parents) had decided brunettes weren't white enough. You're dead on, Mr. Danskin. They will not call it a day.
@Julius Seizure Southern California. If you've seen news stories about neo-Nazis in places like Huntington Beach...well, it wasn't there exactly, but it was within a 30-minute drive of there. And while the region as a whole was/is fairly diverse (large Latino, East and Southeast Asian, and MENA communities in this part of the county), there's a reason that one of the forerunner cases for Brown v. Board of Education was Mendez v. Westminister, about the segregation of "Mexican" children in local schools. A lot of white people here are STILL not happy that their neighbors aren't necessarily the color of rancid milk. And I STILL get remarks about my hair from time to time--mostly asking whether I'm Jewish.
Lol yeah, I understand that perfectly. I have dark almost black hair and brown eyes, and growing up in a small town in North Eastern Russia, where most people had lighter hair and eyes than me, there were some people who didn't believe I was ethnic Russian hahaha
@@nathanseper8738 On some genetic level, tribalism probably helped in our species being able to compete with other species and prehistoric rival societies, giving our ancestors a competitive advantage. Unfortunately, it only hampers our progress today. Like our wisdom teeth, a vestigial remnant of our evolution that we will have to move past or remove (via education) if we want to survive as a better species now.
I'm very glad you mentioned the changing/narrowing definition of whiteness. I think a lot about how Irish Catholics were not considered white until it became politically convenient for them to be so, or how people from the Mediterranean are currently included under the umbrella of whiteness.
Something tells me since its a predominantly southern ideology, the Irish will go after the French Americans first (no one likes Louisiana and could be tagged a "anti-corruption campaign"), the Slavs, British or Dutch, they finally, the Rest of the Germanic Peoples .
Or how Latinos in the US are still generally considered nonwhite and are looked at as being a fairly monolithic group by White culture, regardless of their diversity and in spite of many being of largely, or entirely, European heritage.
@@e.l.wagner9766 That one always makes me snicker a bit. If you ever to have some fun with a white nationalist who extols the exceptionalism of "European heritage" say to them "So that includes Spain and Portugal too right?" The deer in the headlights look they get as their brain tries to shift gears without a using the clutch is priceless.
steampunker7 exactly, I’m Portuguese but I got blonde hair and blue eyes, yet I’m still considered “Hispanic white” so I don’t count towards that 60% of non Hispanic whites that Nazis are obsessed with
It's strange to think three years ago accusing someone of being a fascist was ridiculous, an immediate way to get laughed out of the room and not taken seriously, something that got people branded as stupid. Three years was all it took for it to become a real and dire threat. That's how quickly it grows. You cannot afford to leave it unattended.
It's always been a threat, at least in the US. We had a nazi supporting party before and during I believe WW2. The veneer of moral high ground and respectability has always been paper thin.
@@SinHurr these days most things people fear and label as fascism isn't actually fascism. Take the protest that happened at the capital. So many scared to the point the protesters are in a kangaroo court when all they did was be let into a building and the only major violence that happened was either undercover FBI agents or a protestor getting shot.
we've had a home grown fascist problem since world war ii, but there was a resurgence in the 90s and again starting around 2012. I don't know who yall grew up around but no one around me ever called anything fascist as a joke or exaggeration, and I'm in a privileged majority white area. Maybe it's because I live so close to Washington DC and a lot of people here work for the federal government, but the people here understand that fascism is not a joke even if they don't take it as seriously as they should as a threat.
That piece about how whiteness is treated fundamentally different in the sense that 1/2 White + 1/2 Black = Black was very interesting. I haven't thought about that before!
Well I'm most of the world no-one would call Obama black, in most of Africa African Americans who are wayy less than 50% white are considered whites so it just depends on who you're comparing with
Az4212 knowledge thirsty But I still think this clarifies how the racists who are worried about the “white race” becoming extinct thinks and why it is so stupid and nonsensical. Since they only care for “purebred whites”, mixing races means reducing the number of whites in future generations.
@@asdfghyter yeah that's stupid in fact as a European who sees almost perfect blacks and 50% mixes i think that if those stupid racist were a little bit rational they'd be in favor of mixing because although dark skin color is more dominant white facial features are dominant (most African Americans look rather European without color with only 20%) so they could spread their whiteness everywhere But their logic doesn't go that far
@deal with it yeah I'm familiar with hybrid vigor, but that only applies when two genetically similar but different strains of something are crossbred, like the difference between cross breeding a norwegian forest cat and a manx and the difference between cross breeding a lion and a tiger, results vary heavily depending on genetic adjacency, and in most cases of african and european hybridization the net result is a solid negative as cited in the previously posted article, across a myriad of sources, including several peer reviewed studies on the subject. At the end of the day, it's not a good idea.
Glad I wasn't the only one to notice that, doesn't she say that in her Freya character at one point or was it related to the cat girl, whose name escapes me, but I will facepalm when i remember cause it will be so obvious.
It's also a pretty interesting statement retrospectively, after the talk Ian did about the similarities between the alt-right and abusive relationships.
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." - Lyndon B Johnson. This is fascism in a nutshell folks.
My mom's Mexican, my dad's an American White. I've been bullied for being Mexican, my brother's been bullied for being White. Every time we have to fill out anything asking our race we're both frustrated. I'm 100% White and 100% Hispanic. I'm not going to concede on either of those because I'm 100% mixed and 100% done with anyone who doesn't realize that race is a made up concept and that we're all just a bunch of weird creatures on a weird planet in an infuriatingly incomprehensible universe.
@@pinkmann8399 yup, same when I picture the average black man, average native American, average Asian, average Indian, ect ect, I see they're all apart of the same race, the human race
@@hherrie3tuoepiwDid you know the coyote, the wolf, and the domestic dog can all interbreed, but are considered different species? Fascinating, really
I had always wondered why "mixed race" = "black", when it would never be white. This was illuminating. Disturbing, for sure, but definitely worth learning about.
It's really easy to talk about the white purity standard, but as a mixed Asian person I also wanna add another idea which is that in a highly racialized society, the way that mixed people resist categorization alienates them. Being honest with ourselves, poc and white people tend to self segregate for a lot of complex reasons. But mixed people don't usually self segregate bc there aren't enough of us in any one place to allow that sort of thing- friend groups, clubs, etc don't tend to be all mixed people in the way that some tend to be almost all one race. Rather, we integrate into both communities and are at the same time the most obvious outsider to that community. Because our society revolves around race so much, it becomes something that is apparent at most times. I'm not black, but my mixed black friends tell me this works the same way- I'm Asian in white spaces and White in Asian spaces, because it is a way in which I can never fully fit into the racial lines of American society.
The last part kinds of reminds me of the French distinction between nazis, "collaborateurs" and "collaborationnistes" during the Occupation (the few years Nazis occupated France during WWII): Nazis were Nazis, collaborationnistes were the dudes that agreed with the nazis and helped them because of that, and collaborateurs weren't particularly sensible to their rethoric but gained money and influence by helping the Nazis.
@@farribastarfyre per Wikipedia; "After the liberation, France was briefly swept by a wave of executions of suspected collaborators. Women who were suspected of having romantic liaisons with Germans were publicly humiliated by having their heads shaved. Those who had engaged in the black market were also stigmatised as "war profiteers" (profiteurs de guerre). However, the Provisional Government of the French Republic (GPRF, 1944-46) quickly reestablished order and brought collaborators before the courts. Many of the convicted were later granted amnesty under the Fourth Republic (1946-1954), while some prominent civil servants, such as Maurice Papon, escaped prosecution altogether and succeeded in holding important positions even under Charles de Gaulle and the Fifth Republic (1958 and afterward)."
The idea of fascism being a system of made up rules that change depending on what is deemed necessary is even further solidified by the original definition of fascism, which was written by Mussolini himself, in which he did not define what fascism was and what it represented, but merely what it was not. Absolutely loved this video, there were so many points that, even as someone who has studied fascist and authoritarian regimes for years, made me reconsider the views and opinions that I've heard used around me. I knew they were. off in some way, but I can now recognize them as being based upon and rooted in white supremacist ideology.
The writing of Mussolini on the subject is quite fascinating in how it deals (not) with logic overall, like the fact that the people are "free" of their opinion... As long as it is compatible with the one of the fascist party o_O There ARE a few things which are defined as consubstantial to fascism though, like the use of strength, which is a qulity by itself since it "forges" the people and allows them to "fulfill their destiny" somehow... So the worship of strength and violence IS, I would say, an intrinsic characteristic of fascism...
@@Kyrielsh1 That remind me of a few pro-Nazi slogans I saw on a French forum. "Oui à la République, mais seulement si elle est Nationale Socialiste !" (Yes to the Republic, but only if it's National Socialist !).
@@Kyrielsh1 I'd say another major component is opposition to any other alternative to liberal democracy or capitalism. Socialism, social democracy, anarchism, all of these are treated as inferior, with fascism being seen as the next stage of society. That's why centrists think Mussolini and Hitler were leftists (completely ignoring Mussolini leaving the Italian Socialist Party and Hitler's Night of the Long Knives), because they were opposed to the status quo. The difference is that the far right is opposed to the status quo in the opposite direction.
People who call someone "fascist" don't mean Nazi, they mean racist, bigoted, xenophobic, controlling, authoritarian, misogynistic etc. But people with fascistic tendencies think "Nazi" because to them the fascist mindset is just normal.
Well, maybe you should stick to the Dictionary definition instead of making one up. My father liberated a death camp in Nazi Germany and you have diluted the word into meaningless emotion that no one takes seriously anymore.
The funny thing is that if you went back just 200 years ago and told a person from France, Prussia, England, and Serbia that they should all be comrades in arms because their “white culture” was basically identical... they would have looked at you like you just told them you were a Martian -.-
Eh, the idea of "White Western superiority" was in full swing by the 1800s. That being said, they certainly wouldn't see themselves as a unified white nation, contrary to the dreams of American white nationalists.
SlyBiffrons - yeah that’s what I meant. They viewed eachtother as vein superior to blacks or others. But would have called you stupid if you suggested they were all the same like white supremecists in the US do today
LEEboneisDaMan the French and the British would actually laugh to your face if you told them they’d Co-Rule, the imperial rivalry didn’t go away till WWII. And oh my god, the English and the Irish? Old school Englishmen would scoff if you suggested the Irish were on their tier.
It was not in full swing in the 1800s because European countries were still fighting each other in the 1800s. The nation-state of Germany didn't exist until the late 1800s
When you talked about Trump being an opportunist, whose intent regarding fascism is in question, it reminded me of Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." But it also reminded me that malice and stupidity are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." Very true and most puke "liberals"/fascists would be wise to understand this! Especially the aunt-teefa idiots!!!
It's funny that you should mention that. I saw your video a few weeks back and this one today. It did seem you both approached the same topic from different sides of the coin, reaching the same conclusion. Well done by both of you.
It’s comforting that this crap has and probably always end in failure and disgrace. The biggest concern is how many innocent people they’re going to hurt in the process
I don't think its that simple this time. In an age where we can wipe out modern human civilization in a matter of hours we cannot afford a repeat of the 20th century. This won't just be a case of the fascist losing. Everyone will lose.
It may be comforting to believe that fascism always ends in failure. But those past victories were payed for in sweat and blood by people who gave up the comfort and security of non-intervention to actively bring these dark forces down. Only believing in something never changed anything.
It's not "ending in failure and disgrace" with Jair Bolsonaro, Viktor Orban, Putin, Netanyahu, and Jordan Peterson all making the worship of hierarchies and tradition mainstream. Bolsonaro is locking up and persecuting Marxists. Bannon and Bolton are dying to have a leader like that here. Jordan Peterson wants marxists fired from their jobs. If we don't fight, freedom is fucked.
The "stealing from the left" thing is still relevant now. I hear a lot of these Nazis saying "BASED AND REDPILLED" referencing Lil B (a black man) and The Matrix (a film made by two trans women).
On top of that. Lil B has an entire album about supporting the LGBT community and has gone on record as to saying "This system of capitalism is disturbing... who benefits from it? " So like you have this black man in solidarity with LGBT folks and who is quite possibility an anti-capitalist. He stands for literally the exact opposite of what the 4chan fash do.
@@rckli because education is at an all time low and propoganda has been turned into practically a science that is extraordinarily effective. Anyone who aligns with that side would just scoff and call this fake news. Which is worth pointing out that that tactic of saying everything is fake news is a very common fascist tactic to ensure their propoganda is the only thing you are swallowing and nothing that could create doubt or dissent even makes it into your brain.
Kind of disappointed he didn't talk about the chemical weapons and separation of immigrants from their families and putting them in cages where they force abortions and assault immigrants, but I don't know if that knowledge was well known when he made this. Also just kind of looking at this after the attempted coup and the millions of people who have died due to Covid is really sobering. It's a shame that the now Neo Liberal establishment is continuing the forced deportations under Biden and is failing to socialize our healthcare despite the fact we're in a pandemic.
@@jbowman1018 If what you’re saying convinces me to keep voting for a party that affiliates with Gavin Newson & Andrew Cuomo, BOTH who are currently exposed (well deserved, not surprising, make it quick, get them out now I’m tired of waiting). This is my first time understanding politics so Is this a common trend of voting for that party? Gun control and more gun laws = more Gun deaths? I don’t understand this logic.
The whole thing about the fascists eventually turning on each other makes me think of the Daleks from Dr.Who (who the creators said were explicitly based on the Nazis). Basically, they hate and want to kill everyone who isn't a Dalek. It's been implied that if they ever actually succeded in killing all non-Daleks, they would have nothing left to live for and would either start killing each other or commit mass suicide.
Curiously enough they have killed each other from time to time. A few story lines have featured Dalek civil wars where variations or splinter factions fought over which was the "Truest Dalek." The Who writers had a very good handle on exactly where Nazi, and by extension Fascist, ideologies eventually lead.
And then there was an episode where a Dalek became part human, and saw the truth about Daleks. Wait, it wasn't just a Dalek. It was Dalek Sec, leader of the Cult of Skaro and smartest of the four remaining Daleks after the Time War. Long story. Dalek Sec suggested that the Daleks evolve with other races instead of destroy them, since their xenophobia was what caused their near-extinction. You know how the other Daleks reacted? Exterminate.
Great video. One example to illustrate your point about, how white is defiened by what it's not, is slavic genocide during ww2. Right now slavic people (Poles, Ukrainians, Russians etc.) are considered "white", certainly by fascists movements. But during ww2 they were sub-human according to fascists , and so genocide was justified, in their eyes.
Coming here a year later to say that Mussolini, before even being in power, said that if they gave him an army he would have left the next day to go exterminate slavs. He did not show a great hate of other races (until the racial laws), with the exception of slavs which he hated with all his heart.
You want your mind blown, Somalis and African Americans people are considered white by some university admissions staff, and East Africans were White to many travellers, That’s right! If you were a black slave here in the States or a Mogadishu expatriate, you are still effectively White! Have fun with your newfound White Privelege, internalized bigots! Goes to show how well these groups manipulate the terms for their own social gain.
@@DarkwellorBZ My mind is blown by how much you people will cling to a handful of irrelevant examples and twist them to explain how we're all manipulated by these minorities that live like kings and queens among us and are trying to submit us... -_-
I always compared the embracing of fascism to getting into abusive relationships, and when you said "Come back baby; it'll be different this time," my brain went "yes, exactly!!"
Because it's a cult. Look up the B.I.T.E. model for cults and you'll see a near perfect overlap with abusive relationship patterns. It's all about hijacking the same parts of the mind and they target the same types of vulnerable people for recruitment.
Exactly!!! One of my mother's friends is... Falling down that hole, so to speak, and she went there willingly, but Jesus it's awful seeing how much anxiety and fear that invokes in a person.
Listening to Ian's explanation of fascism and its justification when this was released: Wow. This sounds a lot like America. Three years of learning later: Yep. This is definitely America.
Lot of people don’t learn about the American Nazi Party, which once held a huge rally in Madison Square Garden. They disbanded during WWII, but its former members were very active in creating new white-power, Christian nationalism, and militia movements
@@justcallmeSheriffWhile calling attention to explicitly fascist movements in the United States is not without merit, I do think this obfuscates the nature of the country itself as being founded upon this palingenetic nationalism. The United States, whether or not the ruling government at any given time is explicitly “fascist” in the narrow or self-proclaimed sense, meets the criteria of putting the wellbeing of the nation at the forefront, defining a narrow section of the population as an ingroup to rule it, and most crucially, ascribes the right to rule through some vaguely defined divine destiny (one might even call it “manifest”). It’s no coincidence that the genocidal policy of systematically exterminating vast swaths of the American continent of its original inhabitants to make way for settlers belonging to the ingroup served as the explicit inspiration for the Nazi Generalplan Ost and policy of Lebensraum, with Hitler himself comparing Eastern Europe to Western North America and soldiers of the USSR to American Indians in propaganda. The rise of explicitly fascist groups in the already fascist United States is merely an example of the inevitable infighting described in the video.
Finally! Someone mentions the Italian and Irish ostracization! My grandparents are both, respectively, and they had to suffer under some of that (Ironically, from their parents being racist to the other).
Indeed, there was significant conflict even amongst different groups of Europeans during the larger migration waves in America. It took a few generations along with a lot of conflict and suffering for everyone to assimilate more or less into a common new ethnicity. On the flip side this has never even come close to happening with any other minority ethnic group in this country. The differences are simply too large to overcome it seems to me. People on the left like to make that point all the time but they clearly aren't thinking very deeply about what it actually means. It seems like the only conclusion that you people draw from that history is "white people be racist". I mean when this is coming from "woke" blacks I understand. I don't really expect too much from them. But how halfway intelligent people still swallow such brain dead takes hook, line and sinker is beyond my understanding. Those Jews must really have done a number on your critical thinking skills.
And I get it. The Nazi bits make you react emotionally. We have all been conditioned from a very young age on that front. But you seem like a bright person with reasonable enough critical thinking skills so let me just ask you this. Where's the lie? @@korben600
@@dbojangles1597 ...oh god, I am talking with an actual Nazi. This is why I hate the internet sometimes. Uh, several things: 1) If by "conditioned" you mean "warned", then yes, I was warned about Nazism, because Nazism is bad. If you don't believe that, there are over 17 million bodies buried in Europe to prove it. 2) The lie is claiming that immigrants don't assimilate into the US. There are literally dozens of minority groups that have successfully assimilated into this country. Almost all immigrants of any background assimilate. Assimilation isn't the problem. What's really at issue is the acceptance of a minority by the general US population, which is not contingent on immigrants working to assimilate, but on the present population not being racist/xenophobic. 3) The Nazis lost the war because they were idiots and racists, get over it.
I suppose it depends on how you define assimilation but what non white immigrant groups have ever even come close to fully assimilating into White American society? The closest we have really are east Asians and they still very much stick to themselves and maintain their own very different culture and identity. They just happen to get along pretty well with whites because there aren't many aspects of their culture that we find distasteful in fact it is quite similar to ours in many important ways. How do you "accept" a minority when it is encroaching on your on your territory both physically and socially. The more foreign people exist within your space the weaker our own culture and social institutions become. You act like nothing is affected by living among these people but that is clearly not the case. You just don't understand the concept and importance of community. Oh and the Nazi's lost the war because they were just completely overwhelmed by so many major powers. They did put up one hell of a fight not that I really care. It's not like I worship Hitler. He certainly made quite a few major fuck ups. Of course I don't demonize the man either. @@korben600
I like to think we're different, you and I. The last of a dying breed. Not like those hysterical people, calling everyone arsonists. I mean, a man can't even smoke a cigarette without being called an arsonist!
I don't think Spike is Jewish? Come to think of it I don't remember religion coming up much at ALL in Cowboy Bebop, aside from that fight in the church.
@@DeepDiveDevin It's not a confirmed thing, but his name being "Spiegal" and his curly jewfro has made his Jewish ancestry pretty much an accepted fact by many fans of the show.
Had to realize some of my own blind spots because of this video. "The rules are made up" and "it's real because we make it real" are very helpful. Thank you.
The bit about how whiteness being "maintained" was eyeopening. Like "ofc, if someon's mixed then they don't look fully white". But like... they also don't look fully black/asian/etc. So why do they get called one but not both?
I feel like you really underscored the fetishization of militarism - the Law, Our Soldiers, Uniforms, just literal War. Otherwise I'm so glad you made this.
It's best not to pick a side and watch every kind of content. If you watch just one kind of video you'll end up absorbing someone's opinion insted of forming your own
You jumped from the frying pan into the fire. All that this socialist scumbag, is doing is building a strawman and tearing it down. The skeptic community and sargon are just as intelectually bankrupt as this dude. I advise you to stay away from political youtubers, half of them are in debt up to their neck due to worthless degrees and the other half are college dropouts, neither of those you should take life advice from
"This gives some cause to welcome gay transphobes into the ranks, but should they seize enough power to strip what few protections trans people have gained recently, and the alliance is no longer useful, their gaze refocuses. And it's last hired, first fired for the homosexuals." re-watching this video in 2023...yeah, that hits pretty hard...
It’s scary how much foresight he has to know the shit that trans rights are going through now, five years in advance. The “gay transphobes” in question are now prominently the “LGB drop the T” people.
@@_WhiteMage And yet the Irish were often depicted as lazy, backwards, inherently violent, uncivilized, of "low moral character" (i.e. drunkards) and fit for only the most menial of labor both by the British of the 1800s and by the US. There's a reason "Irish need not apply" was a post script on wanted ads and signs. That's why we have the term "Paddy Wagon" became a reference to police vehicles used to gather up bar patrons. Citizens or not they were viewed with the same disdain, derision, and as "illegal immigrants" (i.e insert your brown skinned person of choice here) are today. That most Irish immigrants to the US were also Catholic didn't help matters either. He's not "peddling a lie." He's referencing a very real, very destructive, and still on going depending on who you ask, period in history where "white" people were indeed exploited, discriminated against, and persecuted by other "white" people. However, as the video points out, because the definition of "white" is whatever it needs to be to suit those with an ultra-nationalist agenda, it gradually expanded to include Irish, Italians, Germans, and whoever it needed to bolster "white" numbers. We were "accepted into the club" not because we were white. But because we were "white." So, speaking as the descent of Irish immigrants who's French Canadian great grandmother caused a stir because he married a *gasp!* Irishman, shut the hell up. You're the one peddling a lie. And if you don't believe me go to southern Ireland some time and tell someone the are the same as the English since they are both "white." I'm sure you'll find the ensuing discussion and resulting black eye most enlightening.
The point stands; the Irish were always considered white, and saying otherwise is a lie. Whether they've ever been discriminated against is a red herring, not a counterpoint.
So many people fail to understand the lobster thing or try to use it to undermine Peterson. Its not about living like lobters its an explanation of why we tend to have certain social tendencies, but not an excuse to keep up with thinks as they are. Lame
@@Nolovivenir739 I can see why you failed to understand his meaning. Peterson pulls onto the stage the inevitable dominance hierarchy of the lobster as bassed in serotonin reward processes from our impossibly ancient evolutionary past. Then entreats his audience to 'let the calming influence of serotonin wash over them'. He, of course, refrains from explicitly drawing the line between the two, expecting his followers to write whatever self-serving fan-fiction they desire; and to forever allow himself room to pivot should his intended conclusions become inconvenient.
The lobster thing is attempt to assert that hierarchies are "natural," and therefore...??? Nothing, it's called a naturalistic fallacy. It's why he never finishes the thought, because you can't _justify_ hierarchy by saying it's natural. Bacterial infections are natural. It's dumb as hell. No one fails to understand it, it's incomprehensible on its face. And idiots like you defend it because Petersen is your daddy, and no one is allowed to criticize daddy.
Guys you're all missing the point! The important point is to ban butter, restrict sales of lemon to non-lobsters, and always Vote Lobster! If you don't, the wrong lobster might get in!
Y'know, sometimes I go into episodes of wondering "what if the Fascists are right?" and I begin to doubt everything I believe in, But then I think of all the people I care about, Everyone I love, Everyone Who supports me, Almost all of them Fascists would hate for who they are. My Brother's dating a Latina, My Mom isn't a Housewife, Many of my friends are LGBT, Many of my friends are also Furries, Many of my friends are Neurodivergent (like me), A lot of my teachers have a career helping Special Needs people, My Cousin is Gay, So are two of my aunts, My Godbrother is Hispanic, My dad cooks, all that jazz. I think about that and then I realize, these people really are dangerous, they want to hurt not just my friends and family but everyone they don't see as "pure" or "strong" or "Normal". And that just gives me something worth fighting for. I find it ironic in a way, one of my main motives for fighting fascism is protecting my own, and that's what so many of them claim to be doing, But if you're fascist let me ask you this. What if these attributes applied to someone in your family, what if your Brother and/or sister came out as Gay or was Dating someone of another race? What if your girlfriend didn't want to be a housewfe? What if your parents helped people with special needs or anyone you deem as "weak"? What if your best friend told you they were trans? What if all of that was true? would you really give up on everyone you love and loves you back just because they didn't fulfill your needed requirements? would you really prefer the company of people who only see you as a race and who would throw on the ash heap as soon as you displayed any features like the ones I mentioned over those who see you as a person and Love you unconditionally?
I think there's truth on both sides of the far right and far left, the far right ethos taps into what may be called the visceral or primal or romantic side of the human psyche. The left taps more into the analytical rational side of the mind, I think both sides are nessesary even if the left has the more important or "larger half" I believe this culture war isn't going anywhere good unless both sides learn to be charitable and learn to see good in those we disagree with, I recommend Jordan Peterson's biblical series and CS Lewis's work.
Reporting on western AAA games only because American borders are so strict and because the dreaded "SJWs" make indie games with diverse casts...plus, fewer Nintendo exclusives, JRPGs , and erotic visual novels because fewer journalists would bother reporting on foreign games. I'm sure all the right-wingers with anime avatars wearing Trump hats would love that.
Ian actually made an excellent series about how Gamergate was about right-wing demagogues misinforming well-intentioned people who did genuinely care about gaming journalism to radicalize them.
"I didn't know what true fascism is until #GamerGate happened"- taken from comments to Sargon's petition to suspend "social justice" courses at "universities" (presumably also private ones?).
I get the joke, yet I still feel the urge to advertise. Shaun has a great video about this called Fate of the Frog Men where he asserts that the "Gamer" identity was forged as a white, young, male identity, which feels socially maligned, this precious little world where big videogame studios only cater to young, white, male preferences (as at the time they did) and where a female indie game developer or a feminist videogame critic can be portrayed as an aggressive outside force, trying to destroy "us"
When talking about how groups are included until not needed and then pushed out I'd like to say I experience that and I see it going far beyond that scope. I'm a transwoman and in the trans community this makes me a 'binary' trans person. The reason why this distinction is made is because people are frequently more accepting towards 'binary' trans people than 'non-binary'. There is a small subgroup of binary trans people who are NBphobic and are vocally attacking those people... Naturally despite this group being small they are often granted platform by those who are higher up in the pyramid. It's pretty dumb of them. They see the short term results of pushing down a subgroup of an already oppressed people and think that it is beneficial to them personally.
Rose Juliette YES!!!! gosh, thank you for speaking up about this. i’ve been subject to these binarists, if you will, just because i have “non-binary, they/them” in my bios on social media. they associate non-binary people with “transtrenders” or whatever shit they make up to cozy up with people who would easily turn on them (ie; transphobic cis people). i’ve said this before, but the attitudes of truscum/transmeds/binarists are always “fuck you, i have mine.”
@@jayhay111 I'm sorry you had to these bafoons. You are so right about the "I got mine" mentality. I've genuinely heard people say that they didn't want to include NBs because "they are taking up space on the waiting list"... I'm amazed that they cannot see how blatantly discriminatory that is. I'll always stick up for NB rights though. NBs have done tons for LGBT+ rights so it would be the least I could do to support their truths in return. ❤️❤️❤️
I'm friends with a recently out trans woman who has this mentality... She doesn't attack them, but she also does not believe non-binary trans identities are real. I try to change her mind, but being cis I really don't know how to effectively argue from my position. It feels like lecturing a trans person on what transness is. I just hope that when she becomes more of a part of the community, and actually meets non-binary people and sees the diversity they have (I think she mostly sees them as the stereotypical 14-year old "transtrender going through a phase") her opinion will change.
This. I hate that people joke about "we are just inventing genders now lolol!" That's literally how genders work, we invent them. If you like your free speech doesn't let you to be sensible, why the hell are you trying to stop me from saying my nonbinary gender?
@@lithauth5180 a looooot of them turn a blind eye to it or are facist sympathizers because it helps keep them in power. Just like what was explained at the end of the video
My dad and I tried to watch Schindler’s list when I was 12ish and he was like 64 or smtn and he couldn’t finish it because it terrified him. He said the “tomorrow belongs to me” song gave him nightmares.
@End white Lives! Nope, Irish, Italians and Slavs were thought as inferior people by "White" Europeans. All three groups were seen as "Savage". It is much more than just a religious divide.
9:29 Hitler wasn't elected, he was appointed as chancellor by Hindenburg. After Hindenburgs death Hitler also assumed the position of Reichspräsident and united them into the title of "Führer". He wasn't elected, he was appointed/ took over a position that he wasn't legally allowed to do. The NSDAP never got an absolute majority until they abolished all other parties.
well just to remember the Parliament agreed to the legislation proposed from Hitler to give him this power, the NSDAP together with the liberals the conservatives and the catholic party, only Social-Democrats voting against it. (Communists already were in Prison and not part of the parliament anymore) So it is true to some extent that he was elected, but your point is also not wrong.
@@notme-ew9sv I'm sorry, but amongst the myriad of sources you cited I kind of missed when and by whom he was elected. Please clear that up for me, will you ?
Yeah, but he also thinks Lenin was a statist and Stalin was a fascist... so, he clearly doesn't understand history and while I like his videos, this video really made his voice sound pompous due to how wrong he is about... well... just about every thing. Fascism has come in so many forms but capitalism is a core feature...
@Antifa means Anti FASCIST It's an important distinction. The entire position of head of state in Germany has been stripped of power afterwards when the new Republic was made, as a direct result of Hindenburg screwing over the nation with that decision. It's the people who don't learn from history who give air to fascists to repeat it. You can only learn from it if you ACTUALLY know it ... Without the position of Reichspräsident holding power that no single position should in a democracy, Hitler wouldn't have risen to power. The NSDAP had dwindling results in elections and the country was starting to move out of the depression - the single greatest reason people were swayed to the political extreme.
These videos have legitimately changed my perspective on the world. My biggest hope is that this series sparks enough of a conversation that this bullshit ideology can be countered properly and done away with. My worst fear is that I have become conscious of the burning world around me and nothing will change except I will be noticing it.
"My worst fear us that I have become conscious of the burning world around me and nothing will change except I will be noticing it." I got chills and nausea simultaneously. I just became politically-socially active last year, and I'm learning more and more about the battles the world is facing. Sometimes, I break down crying. The world grows darker every day. I don't want to accept that I can't do much to change it, so I go the opposite and do EVERYTHING I can to change it. That's the only time I feel calm. But the world IS burning around us, and will probably get worse. All the more reason to get active. If nothing changes except you noticing it, what you can change is how YOU feel when you notice it.
@@tavianblagoev6266 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jJ1Qm1Z_D7w.html this video talks about propaganda in the context of Nazi Germany and film. It's really just something I recommend to everyone but it's most applicable here. And just like this entire series, the author uses theory, empirical scepticism, and streamlined, cohesive delivery. Yes, it is propaganda, but it's the good kind of propagation. it propagates how the right propagates, and boy does it show the flaws in their process.
President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
@@AA-vr8ez It's complicated, but the abbreviated version would probably be that one gets the distinct impression that the person who created the video doesn't actually consider the system fair despite people insisting that it is. Certainly not in the version we have today.
@@AA-vr8ez To put it in simple terms, if you're rich, you'll stay rich and have tons of power over the system, thereby making it more difficult for others to get to where you are.
@@rabidrabids5348 except that happens in every other form of government. no one takes into consideration when making these videos human nature. humans are geared twards collecting as much stuff as they can. so in every form of government, with some mild differences, it happens. we are a greedy bunch. you really think antifa, or the more militant feminists or libertarians or right/left wing people wouldnt do the same? its just how we are. its why capitalism seems to work the best because for the most part, its performance based. if you are smart enough and work hard enough, you can get ahead. anyone can. The problem comes when no one manages the top people who eventually just manipulate things so thats not true anymore. you almost need an AI overlord to control humans, but then some asshole would reprogram it to give them an advantage. benevilant dictator works well enough, but that can go off the rails REALLY quick when the next person takes over. Communism fails spectacularly every time its tried, socialism just turns into facism. capitalism turns into socialism. we just have to keep on it i guess.
16:01- Why I don't recommend becoming an enemy collaborator: typically, they're only kept alive for their usefulness, which has a relatively short shelf life. When it expires, they tend to get thrown under the bus, and HARD.
They are also on the record because they work with the fascist. The Association of German National Jews was dissolved pretty quick, and they were arrested in 1935, which I recall was much earlier than the Final Solution. They know you by name. The ones who survived could hide better, which is the opposite.
"It holds the hierarchical belief that the president need not follow the same laws as the citizens" Oh my gosh, these videos just keep being relevant, don't they?
@@themaxterz0169 Have you ever _seen_ what happens when a woman, or even someone using a female character/skin, joins a game? People flip out and start simping all over them. Also, there's a sad overlap between misogyny, racism, and gamers. Just looks at Xbox Live kiddy insults. N-word, F-word, all of that shit.
I remember as a kid in Florida, I heard people who went to my church ponder if Black people were descendants of Cain (of Cane and Abel) because the Bible said Cain murdering Abel led to God cursing Cain's descendants with a visible mark (causing Cain to protest that this punishment was too severe because he would be killed on sight), and that would explain why Black people were treated so bad. Plus something about Black people being 'more violent' making sense if they descended from the first murderer. As a child I found this observation interesting, and didn't recognize the repulsiveness in justifying the status quo brought on by our and our ancestors own behavior by twisting 'gospel' to explain why this was the natural way. (For those unfamiliar with Bible stories, the implication here is that God cursed the first murderer by turning his skin black) Christianity is not a loving faith.
That sounds distinctly Jehovas witness. I'd have to look into it more but that sort of justification of the status quo by misrepresenting scripture is the sort of thing your Sunday school teacher has an obligation to police and debunk.
This cleared something for me. I had a discussion with someone in where I called the actor Oscar Isaac a minority actor, but the other guy called him a white man. And I couldn't understand how someone could see him as a white man. For me, it was his heritage that I was seeing, for the guy I was arguing with, it seemed to be whether or not Oscar could pass visually for a white guy. Which apparently he can (despite me initially thinking Oscar was Jewish, and in fact I've learnt that Oscar lost an early role because a director thought the same). So here's a Latino actor. Who is seen as Latino, White, and Jewish, from three different people.
"Jewish" is a religion. "White" is a color. "Latino" is race. They're literally three different categories (if we presume that they're even valid as categories to begin with). It seems entirely reasonable for ONE person to see someone as all three of those at the same time, if it were accurate.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 you were almost right, but... Latino LITERALLY IS NOT a race. it's a ETHNOCULTURE. Latin people can be of ANY race. You can be Jewish, White AND Latin at the same time indeed, because they are three different categories. But, "white" in this context is not a color, is the name of the race. So, say. You were born in Brazil (a Latin country), so you're Latin, you were raised in or entered the Judaism religion, so you're Jewish, and also, incidently, you are white. There you go. you have your culture/ethnicity, a religion and a race, simultaneously. Just like one can be, say, Anglosaxon, Black and Christian, like, Beyoncé.
The good thing about RU-vid is that you can always watch it later. No need to watch the video as soon as it's uploaded. (The timing will always be bad for someone. Consider that the audience is global.)
This may be one of the most eye-opening videos I have ever watched. Defining fascism is difficult and has only become more so because of how misused it is in modern political discourse. This video really portrayed how fascism works well and its comparison to how other hierarchal systems work was super engaging.
"Race is like gender and money. It's real, but only because we make it real." This is such a brilliant comparison to draw! I always find this point hard to articulate in a way that gets across, I feel like this one will do it quite well, but I guess I'll see.
Why is it that I can just look at a person and roughly guess where they trace their ancestry to? Race is not as specific as doing a genetic test to discover their particular haplogroup, but it's not a social construct in the same way that money is.
"There aren't a lot of single-issue bigots" *Looks sharply at Heinlien and his obsessive, singular loathing of the chinese and basically nothing else* "I didn't say none, I said there weren't a lot."
It's worth adding a few thoughts 1. Fascism is always aided and abbetted by opportunists. It needs opportunists to succeed because it's not an ideology for power brochers, it's an ideology for a national petit-bourgeoisie and a wannabe petit-bourgeoisie. The people who actually have power only care about entrenching their position (usually). 2. as fascism functions as an extension of ideologies whose role is the reproduction of capitalism (racism, supremacist nationalism, and patriarchy), it is impossible to say that fascism is truly "un-capitalist". Quite the opposite, actually, as it appears whenever capitalism trips and a movement arises to change the economic system, as the alternative to that movement (so the petit-bourgeoisie and its wannabes need not fear the loss of power or the potential to gain it). Fascism depends on the normative assertion of the relationship between property owner and worker and the colonial holdings that fuel it. Fascism only manages to not be truly "capitalist" at the level of ideology, because fascists do not know or care what they're doing. As you mentioned, there is no endgame. The object of fascism isn't just unattainable, it's incomprehensible. 3. Ideologically speaking, fascism has no material component. It does not care in any rationalistic way about economics or actual systems of power distribution. It is neither liberal nor Marxist nor anarchist nor feudalist. I think that's what you meant when you said it wasn't "capitalist". Fascism is reaction in untreated form. It is pure mysticism; not the only kind, but not of any other kind. 4. It's difficult to understand fascism without understanding reaction in general. Reactionaries fear and resist change to the social power structure, be it a minority group seeking protection and ultimate integration into the majority, a minority whose role is necessary proletarianization wishing for not-that, a genocided minority wanting safety and their land back please and thanks, or the underclass itself hoping to overturn entirely the relations of power that exist. Everyone who is not gung-ho about revolution harbours a little reactionary sentiment, but it's important to note that reaction also stands in opposition to the progress of capitalism. Capitalism has a habit of undermining its own ideological supports in order to make money. Lifestyle marketing sells, labour is more efficiently distributed when it's more fungible, so sell black culture and gay culture (and especially black gay culture) and let the women and the queers work in the same jobs as everyone else. Political liberalism is thus a position in tension between its reactionary elements that want to keep the fundamental order intact, its progressive ones that want to alter the order a bit for the furtherance and sustainability of capitalism, and its progressive ones that want to alter the order a lot but are willing to compromise on its total transformation to the end of getting some aims met now, and whose allegiance is necessary because otherwise they'd go over and bolster the revolutionaries. Conservatism, on the other hand, is defined by its reactionary tendencies (kinda in the name there), which is what makes it fertile ground for fascist intensification. But conservatism isn't pure reaction. It doesn't fear the whole idea of compromise with the enemy (on the contrary, it sees the maintenance of the order as all-important so it will do what it needs to do), and it does have progressive elements in that its backers want to claim and make use to its fullest whatever new means is available for making more money. This is in tension with its monopolistic elements, which tend towards stagnation and decay if you let them get their way. The fact that conservatism is defined by reaction puts it on a sliding scale with fascism. The difference is made in degrees of reactionary intensity and coherent material want (more of one, less of the other). 5. So what really distinguishes an opportunist from a fascist in a practical sense? Probably how far they're willing to go to keep up the charade, honestly. It won't matter if Trump was never a true believer if he seizes power and starts purging minorities in earnest, not even to historians. It's still sort of a line that has to be drawn on a scale. I think, more important is to recognize that I would like to not be on this scale.
When he was talking about Obama and how "pure white" stuff with lineage, I was honestly really surprised. Didn't think about it that way but makes perfect sense
@@vis7139 I see from your other comments that you are a lefty. I wonder, how come you know exactly what White is when talking about it in a negative or neutral context, but never when it concerns Whites in a positive light or our biological existence? I wonder why...
@@fallout1953 @FN Fallout I'm white. I'm a lefty, sure. And I'm happy to say that white people have done lots of good things. I'm not putting a moral character on being white or being non-white. Just interested in what you think "white" means... For what it's worth, there are many people from Europe who are seen as non-white in the UK. My mate is Azerbaijani - the Caucasus mountains (as in actually Caucasian). And he's seen as non-white in the UK. It's an arbitrary term, and it shouldn't carry moral value.
The white fascism isn't just about race. When fascist got their all-white ethnostate, it isn't obligate that they begin to erase irish, italian etc. There is a strong classism in fascism, too. They probably try to erase the homeless, the non-working people, the chronical sick, the ones that aren't fit for military (because fascism is hyper militaristic, too) or the low educated. You explained one aspect of fascism in detail, but you ignored all the other traits fascism in general has, that are also part of white fascism.
Yeah they tend to be pretty obsessed with "degeneracy" as an excuse for violent authoritarianism which is the one big piece lacking from this analysis. The idea of degeneracy is pretty poorly defined which allows them to use it against just about anybody they feel like, almost always to benefit those in power and target those at the bottom of the hierarchy.
Jesinchen there’s no end to the purge, they have an idea that “perfect” is achievable. and in some cases, it’s a massive underlying goal, achieve the perfect human.
"they try to erase... ...the low educated" I find this to be one of those great ironies of fascist and capitalist ideology. The very thing they both promote and sustain is the thing they condemn. Fascism does it directly through "right of access", and Capitalism essentially follows the same mold via pricing models and class war.
I agree, in fact fascism is just an ideology centred around narcissism and hate. I hate generalising, but from what I know, fascists only desire power, and they seem to use an out group to stop themselves from realising that it would mean they all are as corrupt as each other. The only person a fascist sees on top of the hierarchy is themselves or a person they can vicariously live their lives through (someone who is just like the "ideal" versions of themselves). And the only way they can be on top is to look down on other people. This is all observation, I don't want to act like I know more than I do
Also literally JB Peterson. If you dissect his actual words and sentences, he's never really saying anything. None of it makes any sense and a bunch of it is super contradictory, but because he makes himself sound like hes making a super logical argument, it's like months to a flame. Charisma is dangerous.
@@CoffeeNCardio If you genuinely think that Jordan Peterson has never said anything of substance than I think you should dig a little deeper. Or at least not willfully ignore things for the sake of a "side".
I have to say, what's described here, is eerily similar to what's happening in my country. In Malaysia, racial supremacy groups and the government in power employs fascism + constitutional and systemic violence, just never to the degree of Nazis. What Trump has been in America right now, is exactly what we've been going through for over half a century, and still living in it.
I have just noticed how white racists think about whiteness like a month ago while reading racist comments on RU-vid. You just described my whole perception. It blew my mind when I found it out. I finally understood why all racist arguments make sense to racist people, I've never actually understood them before. They think about their race as if it was not a race, but the lack of a race, the blank paper, and they think about other races as a desease, a plague that infests people and is transmited to all their descendants like a sexualy transmited desease.
This is completely wrong. It is the left that thinks of white people as a blank, cultureless “human” that can be molded into whatever fucking group they need us to be.
Bailey Wong I would like to appologize for radicalizing Debra by repeatedly stealing her lunch. Not sure I am the entire cause behind her slide into fascism, but I truly am sorry.
Great video. I'll point out that calling out this logic of forever narrowing down is the whole point of the famous "First they came for..." poem. In the video, the explanation of the tactic is just more organised, clear and elaborate.
The poem is also an example of the slippery slope fallacy. If you don't think it's a fallacy, that's fine but admit that it fits the description of 'slippery slope' or explain how it's NOT slippery slope.
@@burritosupremacist9103 whoa, whoa. Not every description or warning of a trend or pattern of behaviour is automatically a slippery slope fallacy. There's a fallacy only when it's impossible to indicate a trend or a reason why something might get worse. In other words, an argument is a slippery slope fallacy when the jump from "A happens" to "B happens" is unfounded. You don't have a slippery slope argument when you, say, tell a person living in an abusive household "if this goes on, it may get so much worse". It's not a slippery slope fallacy if you tell someone "remove snow from youd driveway. If this heavy snowfall continues, you may get snowed in completely and it will be too late". And so on. There's plenty of reasons why the Nazi tactic described in this way is not a slippery slope argument. For one thing, it's a repeating pattern. It's not a case of "Nazis targetted Communists. Now they'll target everyone else!", because Nazis pretty clearly targetted one group after another. It's not a leap of logic to see the pattern repeat after multiple examples that it, indeed, repeats. Secondly, there's intentionality. Nazis pretty clearly showed that the intention was to target groups one by one, there was no accident. Thirdly, there's precedent. "Divide and conquer" is a very old tactic. It's not an exagerration that groups whose goal is to eliminate or subjugate enemies tend to use apathy or existing hostilities to accomplish their goals. Fourthly, there's the fact that "they came for" doesn't refer to just any situation where certain groups are under fire. It clearly refers to a situation where Nazis came after specific groups for the clear purpose of eliminating them by using their isolated status and lack of outside sympathy towards them. That's not an assertion made in a contextless void. Everything, from Nazi propaganda to the careful choice and order of attacks made indicates deliberate thinking, not random occurrences. Fifthly, the poem points out indifference stemming from a "not my problem" attitude. It doesn't make a case for "defend Communists at all cost". It makes a case for "if other groups, starting with a group like Communists, repeatedly ignore other groups being targetted, the lack of solidarity makes anyone easy prey". That's a completely different sentiment. Sixthly, the poem does not describe a prediction, reasonable or not. It describes a tactic and how it wreaked havoc from the perspective of what ACTUALLY HAPPENED. If I say "this man got punched repeatedly in the street, nobody intervened, and he had to be sent to a hospital. Why didn't anyone react before it was too late", the answer "well, that's a slippery slope fallacy. The guy who punched him could have stopped AT ANY TIME" is crazy. That's not a hypothetical. That's something that actually happened. You can only talk about a slippery slope argument if there's no reason to expect something to happen. "It happened in the past in exactly the way I'm describing" is a pretty good, established precedent. I'll repeat - pointing out a problem, a pattern or a tactic can't be dismissed every time with an accusation of "slippery slope" fearmongering. If we used that argument everywhere, we might as well stop predicting what might happen from what is currently happening from the current situation. Unless you want to get deep into philosophy, a current trend or momentum is a pretty good indicator of what will happen next. If I say "this car is moving very, very fast towards a wall. It will crash into it!" is not a slippery slope argument. It's a valid prediction, and a VERY good reason to apply brakes. Similarly "Nazis tend to target groups one by one. That's what they do, and if you're complacent enough to ignore it when it happens to others, it may very well happen to you" is a valid prediction, and it's a very good reason to apply brakes, as well. Again, every single trend or worrying behaviour might be dismissed with a "hey, slippery slope. Maybe it will magically STOP happening in a while". It's only a fallacy if we can't make a convincing case of "this bad thing is likely to continue". Which, in the case of fascists/Nazis, we can very well do. And the poem doesn't even make a prediction, it clearly refers to what ALREADY HAPPENED. A slippery slope argument is by its very nature a prediction of the *future*.
But its not though because those things actually happened. It wasn't "First they WILL COME for...." it was "First they CAME for..." Because they did. It describes a pretty linear progression of historical facts. You can argue that those facts are somehow independent of each other, but to argue that mentioning those facts in the sequence they happened is fallacious is a huge stretch.
15:08 this is it. italians weren't considered white until very recently. WASPs (white anglo-saxon protestants) are the original white folk. they are the ones that determine who is and who isn't white in any given time /place.
I think the purist form of the Fascist ideology came from Wolfenstein: The New Order. A member of the resistance, Klaus, was a former SS soldier, and a proud one. But his son was born with a clubbed foot. His son was disabled ergo Untermensch ergo not human. Klaus, not wanting to see his son killed, fought back and was deemed a traitor, realising the gravity of the system he had partaken in.
This is why I am unsubscribed to a lot of ANTI-SJWs RU-vidrs...some of them were strangely becoming comfortable with ideas of white nationalism or at the very least enabling that. Or some refuse to speak out against it because they knew they had audience crossovers and didn't want to lose patreon on donations.
@@SoniaSephia Your perspective is very important to these discussions because you understand, better than most, the framing, motivations, and feelings. We tend to want to avoid delving into what we don't like. But the only way to devlop an effective counter-narrative is to look into their worldview, and to understand why it appeals.
Or they call everyone a Nazi or White Supremacist if they disagree with them and are white, thus diminishing the impact of what those words actually mean.
its a completely understandible reaction to blaming white people for everything and open racism twards them in the media. the left isnt doing itself any favors by doubling down on the rhetoric. i think both sides need to back off and breath a little. wouldnt a year without politics in the media and social media be a breath of fresh air.
Hearing the description of Fascism you give line up perfectly with the party line coming out of the Kremlin is really impactful. I know that 'Putinist Russia is fascist' isn't a particularly new or difficult take, but it's fascinating and horrifying how things flew from under-the-covers casual fascism to filling every aspect of government policy
@VIII Maus Lmao anti-sjw's have literally no rational arguments. They're all extremely mislead or complete morons, and if you think that "sjws" just expect people to blindly follow then you're either extremely stupid, bigoted, or mislead, and for that I feel sorry for you. But then I realize that you contribute to it and all my sympathy drains away.
This is probably one of, if not, the best video I've seen on this subject. There are a lot of pseudo-intellectual people (or crypto-fascists maybe) on the internet who claim to be oh so all-knowing and enlightened, to the point that if you point out their clearly fascist rhethoric, they immediatly scream "lmao you just call everything u dont like fascist xD" and procceed to throw around dictionary definitions as if that proves anything. They fail in understanding historical contexts, they fail in understanding linguistics, and they fail in understanding anything at all.
Azurite What’s your beef with white people? Having a sense of pride and a connection to ones ethno-cultural identity is completely natural, and its encouraged for everyone group of people except whites. We’re being demographically replaced, if current trends on immigration continue, we will be minorities by 2050. We’re already less than 7% of the worlds total population, why can’t we have homelands where were the supermajority, and our right to have a future isn’t threatened by foreigners? Japan, and Israel are allowed to have their own ethnic self determination, yet when whites want the exact same thing, immediately that’s “Fascism”. Why do you enlightened liberals hold Europeans to a higher standard of behavior?
Expect "fascist" has been used to describe everything the right does that is right of Stalin. You can't be surprised when, after overusing a term, that it loses all meaning, right?
@@El-RaShahzad Not Op but Sotuh African. Asians are just called Asians here and Coloured is a (mostly reclaimed? depends on region) term for mixed race people. Being a country where white people are the minority the distinctions between anyone with a skin tone darker than pantone 727 became more important.
That is a myth. Irish were always considered white. When US immigration was limited to "White people of good character", Irish were allowed. Irish identified themselves as white on the census and this was never considered an issue. This myth of the left is based on a political cartoon satirizing the behavior of irish immigrants, suggesting they acted so unseemly that they were as if of another race. The point being, nativist European Americans held a higher expectation of Irish immigrant behavior that they were not living up to as whites.
as an Arab who is quite light skinned I have always had people arguing over whether I was 'white' or not, I do not particularly care about race, but you're right about the redefining of race all the time, shows that its all just made up. Although I do acknowledge my priveledge for it in some situations, I wish this wasn't the case, it is improving and most people are not racist I hope.
@@danielemazzali9810 Ehhh, rewatched, don't think it's had as much boosted relevance as it did in the 2018 to 2020 gap. At least not yet anyway, we're barely into January. x) On the other hand Some More News' video on the police riots definitely gained new weight.
@@imptwins I did find out the some more news channel just yesterday and i sadly can't watch that video because it's age restricted and yt wants me to upload my identità card to prove i'm old enought. So annoying
@@danielemazzali9810 Ahh, yeah. That particular video can get... Pretty graphic. He did another police violence video in like late 2019 that might not be age locked? Good channel though, yeah.
I'm glad I managed to pick a lot of this up through observation. This channel is a fucking gem and it's so morbidly fascinating to understand where all their rhetoric comes from and why it exists
@17:24 that moment where you find Saint Augustine's description of evil with slightly different words. "Evil has no substance of its own. It is only the corruption or perversion of that which has substance."