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thecivilwars.com - filmed by Allister Ann on Sept 27th, 2011, Union Chapel, Islington, London UK.

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@katechamomile6486
@katechamomile6486 10 лет назад
Dear Civil Wars, I miss you. I love you.
@Hannah-sm3um
@Hannah-sm3um 5 лет назад
Kate Chamomile 😢😢😢😢
@Monteilmare
@Monteilmare 2 года назад
2022 and I still miss them ♥️
@irontoolgoddess
@irontoolgoddess 7 месяцев назад
2024, so sad.
@snowbirdling
@snowbirdling 12 лет назад
When musicians make a lot of eye contact while singing I always feel like I'm watching something very intimate and private. It's so charged.
@pennybombibi8030
@pennybombibi8030 10 месяцев назад
Something in their eyes and I don’t even have words for that
@jewelsegulahleahgreen7442
@jewelsegulahleahgreen7442 10 лет назад
Musical soul mates... Didn't know it was possible before I heard these two.
@LKYme
@LKYme 6 лет назад
Jewel Segulah Leah Green 💔
@brandibowman9838
@brandibowman9838 6 лет назад
Gillian Welch and David Rawlings are the same way. Musical soulmates for sure.
@sophiamilas6259
@sophiamilas6259 4 года назад
Civil Wars. R.I.P. 😔
@tinylilmonster28
@tinylilmonster28 3 года назад
I definitely agree they are musical soul mates❤️
@tinylilmonster28
@tinylilmonster28 2 года назад
I felt the same the first time I heard them.
@fareeha3129
@fareeha3129 9 лет назад
I just came back to watch them look at each other because oh i am in love with that !
@tobbe447
@tobbe447 8 лет назад
+Fareeha Mahmood yup, me too...there´s just so much love there...absolutely beautiful! =)
@tiatrione8482
@tiatrione8482 5 лет назад
In junior high/high school, I had a huge crush on this guy. He introduced me to The Civil Wars. I still think of him often, especially when I hear this song.
@ASuicideBlonde
@ASuicideBlonde 12 лет назад
The air around them's so intimate whenever they sing together that I feel like I shouldn't be watching.
@ataaah
@ataaah 11 лет назад
They sing together as if they are characters in a musical, telling a story with their bodies, not just the music. Very beautiful.
@OneAndOnlyEmEm
@OneAndOnlyEmEm 12 лет назад
i love how expressive she is when she sings
@maromishtey5928
@maromishtey5928 5 лет назад
Again here in 2019...There is so much intensity in their chemistry.... Like the way she looks at him show the full level of love she is so intense... And the way he looks back that's so adorable ... They look great together... Wish they were still together... miss their music 😢
@whatwouldgordonramsaydo
@whatwouldgordonramsaydo 3 месяца назад
the way she looks at him.... ill never get over it
@DixieChickd
@DixieChickd 11 лет назад
I want them back... watching this video makes me feel like crying because I remember going to see them and all the giddy-ness and just standing in awe at them. I would give anything to feel that again...
@NeverlandSystemKitten
@NeverlandSystemKitten 2 месяца назад
I miss this duo so much. They were so amazing together.
@JulieBirkeskov
@JulieBirkeskov 9 лет назад
There's really no denying that their chemistry is insane! :)
@lukekelly5622
@lukekelly5622 9 лет назад
Was*
@bono1083
@bono1083 6 лет назад
You can't have that sort of chemistry and not be in love with each other. They were deeply in love, knew it was wrong since they were both married....my God I miss them
@sreb5048
@sreb5048 8 лет назад
This is my favourite pass time these days. Watching their videos from way back...
@user-ct7ln4qp5p
@user-ct7ln4qp5p 4 месяца назад
Boy ! She really does have a beautiful voice!.
@denverdubois5835
@denverdubois5835 9 лет назад
It occurred to me tonight that this song, written quite early on, is actually their epitaph. And perhaps a prediction...these two will likely talk again, but it will be a long, long time. The cord's not entirely cut, but it's been buried very deep indeed. "there's a note, underneath your front door that I wrote twenty years ago yellow paper and a faded picture and a secret, in an envelope. there's no reasons, no excuses, there's no secondhand alibis, just some black ink on some blue lines and a shadow you won't recognize. in the meantime, I'll be waiting, twenty years and twenty more, I'll be praying for redemption, and your note underneath my door"
@PSNIDMinoBR
@PSNIDMinoBR 9 лет назад
***** U made me cry
@pridden76
@pridden76 9 лет назад
***** Beautifully written! I hope they will reunite when the right time comes.
@AndryFae21
@AndryFae21 8 лет назад
+pridden76 what happened to them? They were married?
@pridden76
@pridden76 8 лет назад
+AndryFae21 No, they are married to other people. Something happened between them which led to their breakup as a band. They have never said what really happened in 2012, but they don´t even speak anymore.
@sreb5048
@sreb5048 7 лет назад
idk but that gives me hope for my own fucking life...
@loodchuck
@loodchuck 9 лет назад
I've heard and seen a lot of music in my life! 300s if not more of show from R&B, punk, hair bands classical and opera. I just love music. I prefer to listen to people who do their own works , which is what drew me to Joy and John . This is some of the most beautiful work ever composed! Here's food for thought for all those who purpose romantic connection. In all likely hood they in the physical world! They remained true to there respected mates Joy had a baby . john had children of his own ,But in spiritual world John and Joy's soul connected in a way so few people do and dream off. Or else this music couldn't have touch so many including their selves. and that is what's undeniable.
@xoasesina3128
@xoasesina3128 4 года назад
This will always be in my top 5 fav songs of all time
@noneoftheabove1589
@noneoftheabove1589 Год назад
It’s already been 10 years ..I still somehow hope or wish that in ten years time Joy or John would find that “envelope underneath their door..”
@annesampson7538
@annesampson7538 Год назад
Well said. So do I.
@baharmonyy
@baharmonyy 10 месяцев назад
😭
@bootsie1212
@bootsie1212 4 года назад
Regardless of any rumor of these two having an affair, a physical one, these two for sure had to have an emotional one. You can’t be this good, be connected and have your audience feel it too without without having them feel it or feel something between them. If the phrase “making love” had a picture of what making music with someone you love and admire sounds like it, it would be a picture of these two.
@angelinaungs1906
@angelinaungs1906 Год назад
He is a classic narcissist and you can see her trying to please him. Toxic relationship sadly, that produced the most incredible music.
@julieb4765
@julieb4765 Год назад
@@angelinaungs1906 Can you explain how he was a narcissist?
@henrikljungstrand2036
@henrikljungstrand2036 Год назад
​@@angelinaungs1906 Funny, i don't get any narc vibes at all. 🤔 And i know what narcissism is, from painful personal experience of people with this disorder.
@NO-cz8rw
@NO-cz8rw Год назад
She just pulled that out of her ass. It’s usually always narcissists pointing fingers on social media anyway. They have no self awareness.
@ericdraven3427
@ericdraven3427 6 месяцев назад
Can you blame him, she is beautiful and has such a great voice
@SJ-ni4rp
@SJ-ni4rp 9 лет назад
I miss them. So bad. Their music felt like magic, and so was their chemistry..
@Grizzman99
@Grizzman99 2 года назад
Best group of all time. Love their music.
@NikRobbins
@NikRobbins 11 лет назад
Good God!! Their voices were made for one another...! So perfect together!
@grantstevens8099
@grantstevens8099 3 года назад
Listening to this song in 2020 and hoping that in twelve years, these two will fall in love again. I know they were both married to other people, but sometimes, you meet the person you're meant for when you're with someone else. Love like this is magical.
@davidrains3572
@davidrains3572 12 лет назад
Not in my entire musical lifetime have I seen something like this. It's just magic. Pure and simple.
@palmettocynic8482
@palmettocynic8482 8 месяцев назад
I always come back to this video to feel something.
@paulblake1061
@paulblake1061 6 лет назад
So special, that was not chemistry, it was pure God given. I respect both of them to honor their marriages. But, being selfish, I so wish they were together. Heavenly...thank you and I am so pleased they are both excelling independent of each other.
@dieterbergholz4217
@dieterbergholz4217 6 лет назад
I Love this song. I cant stop listen to there music. I hope they reunite.
@johnbebe297
@johnbebe297 6 лет назад
Thanks Civil wars for all the great and special music. I wish you well for the rest of your lives
@MellissaKatelynn
@MellissaKatelynn 10 лет назад
She loves him so much. It's extreamly beautiful how you can feel the love she feels for him through looking in her eyes. How she watches him. Its absolutely breath taking. I love you JOY and JOHN.
@jackneale1057
@jackneale1057 10 лет назад
It's a shame they have different significant others.
@Highlikeheaven89
@Highlikeheaven89 3 года назад
@@jackneale1057 It was a bit tragic when I found out they were just friends lol, but their platonic love and passion is still intense!
@sergeantmasson3669
@sergeantmasson3669 3 года назад
@@Highlikeheaven89 Yes it was which is why that they chose to not continue to work together. Joy divorced her husband in 2019 and she has two children. John is still happily married and has three children. BTW, Joy's husband was their manager and traveled with them most of the time.
@sergeantmasson3669
@sergeantmasson3669 3 года назад
@@marciathomason4815 Joy Williams tends to be sensual and a bit flirty when she performs music anyway.
@phyllisgrellman4741
@phyllisgrellman4741 2 года назад
1 agree. She absolutely adores him
@Bluzrooster
@Bluzrooster 8 лет назад
How beautifully you captured the twenty or so years I waited for my love who has came and is now gone... I only need this song to take me there again. Thank you from the bottom of my ❤
@KawaiMonster
@KawaiMonster 11 лет назад
I've come to only appreciate artists that have clever or witty or beautifully written words in their music, and often times I'm willing to negotiate a mediocre voice, melody or beat for that reason. I'm happy to say I didn't have to do any negotiating. This performance was impeccable. Everything was perfection, from their harmonies to their beautiful lyrics. And the both of them being strikingly attractive did not hurt that at all. What more could I ask for?
@clgops6448
@clgops6448 8 лет назад
You have added to the beauty of life and this will stand for eternity.
@michaelallen5505
@michaelallen5505 9 лет назад
Perfection. I am thankful that their music came to be, if only for a short time.
@fatima.aljanahi
@fatima.aljanahi 10 лет назад
This song gives me chills.♥ their chemistry is so strong and the way she looks at him is just ahh indescribable!
@94mandarina
@94mandarina 5 лет назад
I miss you so much in this 2019.
@JackDaniels-rr5ef
@JackDaniels-rr5ef 9 лет назад
This is a petition to The Civil Wars: Please, please, please! Make ONE more song together! We love your music and we miss hearing you guys play! Please, just one more song, I won't ask for anything ever again! Like this comment if anyone agrees!!
@calypsomcknight5445
@calypsomcknight5445 8 лет назад
They don't even speak anymore...so sad :(
@nousernamesince2019
@nousernamesince2019 4 года назад
How selfish
@patbowman9959
@patbowman9959 2 года назад
As much as their music conjured magic, they had promises to keep.
@brittneycapps4
@brittneycapps4 Год назад
This is one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard.
@Sam7Art7Freak
@Sam7Art7Freak 8 лет назад
This is like reliving a deepened heart break for me and very much interprets what its like to lose the one you love so immensely that no matter how deeply you berry the past it will remain living in your heart. I do hope they meet again in life....
@krihstylle01
@krihstylle01 8 лет назад
In 20 Years i want to remember how they look at each other
@trhip03
@trhip03 7 лет назад
There's a note underneath your front door That I wrote twenty years ago Yellow paper and a faded picture And a secret, in an envelope There's no reasons No excuses There's no secondhand alibis Just some black ink, on some blue lines And a shadow, you won't recognize Mmm Mmm And if it means I'll be waiting twenty years And twenty more I'll be praying for redemption And your note, underneath my door And your note underneath my door
@sktzmplg
@sktzmplg 2 года назад
How absolutely beautiful. This performance, this song, these two - perfection.
@iwillnevergetone5
@iwillnevergetone5 5 лет назад
its 2019. i want the unfiltered truth of why this ended. i was in love with this duo when they were around (maybe as much as they were with each other?)
@stardustgirl2904
@stardustgirl2904 4 года назад
That's why it ended, to many made up rumors!
@imsantitos
@imsantitos 4 года назад
From what I’ve read, they wanted different things for the band. JP wanted to slow down while Joy wanted to do more touring.
@iamsultana
@iamsultana 4 года назад
The problem is the majority won't believe until they are told what they want to hear. Of course, everyone is speculating that these two had an affair, at least an emotional one, but I hope you don't expect them to come forward with this sort of personal information? Especially when both parties have children with their significant others?
@IvanLendl87
@IvanLendl87 4 года назад
If Joy and John Paul weren't totally in love with each other then they're the greatest actors on earth. The way they interacted, looked at each other, sang what they sang, AND the way it ended - all pointed to two people who were in love. It was obvious though they tried to deny/deflect it. The eyes don't lie. (They're interaction reminded me a lot of Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac.) And JP has toured a lot since TCW broke up so that can't be it. They were totally in love but the problem was both were already married. When circumstances prevent two people from getting together it can actually create a lot of anger and animosity making it impossible to continue working together. It's really a shame b/c those two were musical magic.
@iamsultana
@iamsultana 4 года назад
@@IvanLendl87 Well, they are performers on stage... We don't question when two people in theatre or movies believably play lovers. It's easy to feel chemistry between Joy and John because they play very emotional, heartfelt music. I don't think it would be very unbelievable to think that there was absolutely nothing going on and they really just acted on stage to make their music more impactful. They do look like a cute couple and they made fantastic music together, there's no argument here. But there is absolutely no reason to believe that the chemistry and flirty behavior continued off the stage. On the other hand, its very, very odd that after winning Grammys, the pair decided to part ways. If this was just about work, maybe they would have collaborated at least for some time more. I don't know.
@stingfan16ify
@stingfan16ify 9 лет назад
The absolute favorite version of my favorite Civil Wars song. This is indeed a masterpiece of writing, harmonies, and emotion. AMAZING!!!
@shawnbeak6048
@shawnbeak6048 5 лет назад
Her voice is unreal. It stirs my soul, now THAT's natural talent.
@zaria9071
@zaria9071 11 лет назад
This is one of my favorites. sing along every time. Being on here..hearing their music now.....just makes my heart break, knowing that they are not together......... I hope they see past their differences soon, so everyone can be happy again......love you two....
@helenat2446
@helenat2446 Год назад
2023 and missing them more than ever after hearing them on Taylor Swift’s re-recording of Safe & Sound ❤️💔
@darla4042
@darla4042 Год назад
So this has special meaning bc my husband and I grew up together and had a brief romantic encounter, and then 20 years later, we reunited, and the rest is history. I hope we live to have 20 more.
@claudiamarial.5990
@claudiamarial.5990 8 лет назад
I love this music they meet me into the heart❤could listen forever ,its very beautiful,to bad i see civil wars never live
@zaria9071
@zaria9071 Год назад
2022 and it still breaks my heart that they broke up 😢 miss them
@macygerltsmusic4302
@macygerltsmusic4302 4 года назад
this is one of my favorite bands!!!!!!!!!
@mirandahumphrey1460
@mirandahumphrey1460 11 лет назад
I enjoy watching this more than the music videos. I love seeing you two singing together. you mesh perfectly and it is amazing how into the music you two get. Love it. You guys are amazing!
@Kikunosuke777
@Kikunosuke777 10 лет назад
took them for granted when I was introduced to their songs by a friend some time ago. :(
@ThatFellazZz
@ThatFellazZz 12 лет назад
Nothing more descriptive of what magic the human voice can be WITHOUT anything more than their voices & a guitar...No computers, no one telling them to fix anything or change anything...the perfection is naturally aided by soul. Drift off for a moment ...THIS is exactly what I picture nightly campfires to have been years in the past. Our souls yearn for this in many different cultures. The artists may find this to be corny as well as others...But perhaps its why so many respond to this.
@Cerandipati
@Cerandipati 10 лет назад
After John Paul's Grammy 2014 speech, I'm pretty sure they're done. So much tension and hate has been built up. This is a tragedy. This will be one of my favorite songs and one of my favourite videos of the pair.
@howlinhoward
@howlinhoward 10 лет назад
I feel that "rift" has been badly misinterpreted; he could have made that speech with Joy by his side and we wouldn't have thought twice about it. We of course can't know from the outside, so this is just my opinion. I do hope they reconnect... in 2 years, 5 years, 10 years, whatever it takes. They are not fools. They know what they have.
@temporaryphase
@temporaryphase 10 лет назад
Howard Parks if they DONT reconnect in some way in the next 5 to ten years ill be really shocked. But if fleetwood mac did it I dont see why someday they wouldnt.
@desowen7700
@desowen7700 7 лет назад
One Of My Favourite songs from Them Is From This Valley ...👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@ss-vd5qg
@ss-vd5qg 10 лет назад
oh the way she looks at him! :)
@sreb5048
@sreb5048 7 лет назад
idk how she continued after that. I'd be fucking dead.
@saty21isha
@saty21isha 7 лет назад
ikr.. ;\ They belong together. They should at least do more songs together.
@barelyprotestant5365
@barelyprotestant5365 6 лет назад
They're both married.
@Flammmeviolette
@Flammmeviolette 11 лет назад
Since I have discovered their voices, I just fell in love with their musics.. They match perfectly together!
@angelacrowley7974
@angelacrowley7974 6 лет назад
Hes in love with her voice. Not her. He leans into it while she leans into him. It's evident how she feels. They're soul mates, but not the forever kind. Sometimes we make beautiful music with people but still have to let them go. We aren't meant for everyone we'll love and will love us. They're music is bittersweet because that's exactly what they are. This could be their last reunion. Or maybe another will happen in 20 years. Or perhaps another lifetime. Their music, though, will forever be an ode to an unforgettable connection.
@iamsultana
@iamsultana 4 года назад
You may be onto something. Joy was always much more sensual in their performances, and while it might have been driven by the songs rather than John, it was still interesting to witness the contrast of her emotion versus John's somewhat cold shoulder. John was very hard to read in their performances.. It was like he was restraining himself from showing Joy affection. It really added layers to their vibe on the stage. Their music was bittersweet and their live performances were the epithomy of unrequited love.
@linzbridge4495
@linzbridge4495 11 лет назад
that guitar playing.... i could listen to that all day!!!
@k213389
@k213389 11 лет назад
this just proves to me that you don't have to be in love with someone for them to be your soulmate. Clearly these two voices were meant for each other, these people were meant to come together, there's something about them both vocally and personally that's really compatible, even if they aren't "together."
@LennyJay16
@LennyJay16 9 лет назад
Sometimes the reunion of magic such as this is inevitable, in spite of whatever discord exists on the personal front. I look forward to such inevitability. (:
@stingfan16ify
@stingfan16ify 8 лет назад
Thank You SOOOOO Much for putting this video back up! The performance (and you) are brilliant!!! :)
@sreb5048
@sreb5048 8 лет назад
I've never seen it before but I am glad it is back. I am sure it is Joy's side who put it up as it looks like her and her husband took control over the Civil Wars legacy but whoever did it..it's very appreciated. I just saw JP perform the other day. I so wish they were together still...never got to see them live.
@kerthgersen3163
@kerthgersen3163 7 лет назад
You can still hear Joy singing harmony on JPs' new album, you just have to provide it in your head. But that's really, really easy.
@fancifulfilly
@fancifulfilly 7 лет назад
I guess folks will keep on believing what they want to believe about these co-writers of such awesome and beautiful music. If it warms your little hearts to think that JPW and JW had some torrid affair, nothing is going to stop y'all. I happen to think Joy was being honest when she told an interviewer that their connection was not of a romantic nature, but it was just as deep. When two songwriters who work together so closely also perform together, they often feel a connection so strong it's a high like no other. They do have a connection to the music and each other while they're singing together, that's as intense as if they were engaged in a passionate affair and that is just as real. But, it seems, only another musician would understand that. If they had ever shared tender feelings, I don't think they would *still* have hard feelings on either side. Maybe for a while, if someone got really hurt, but not a years- long deep freeze. I believe it was irreconcilable professional differences. But if that is the case, there's always a chance that way down the road one of them will have a change of heart, say, in "another 10 or 12 years, maybe longer..."
@VanessaBlank.
@VanessaBlank. 9 лет назад
This Song is my soul! Wunderfull.... thanks from bavaria
@ken_cham
@ken_cham 12 лет назад
how can they not be in love with each other after making such lovely music like this? i don't get it.
@hickorean12
@hickorean12 12 лет назад
The way he looks at her...the way she looks at him, it's so beautiful.
@sashabsanti
@sashabsanti 9 лет назад
This makes me so sad that they couldn't work out whatever problems they had. Going to miss hearing new music from them :(
@kaitlynhand3526
@kaitlynhand3526 8 лет назад
This is amazing. They work so well together!
@brendaescamilla2762
@brendaescamilla2762 7 месяцев назад
2024 Hoping one day for a reunion tour + to seem them live. :)
@FelipeAkira42
@FelipeAkira42 12 лет назад
She is the most beautiful singer in the music industry right now
@grasscutter1919
@grasscutter1919 6 дней назад
What a great song. What a great performance.
@Xareal
@Xareal 12 лет назад
They make beautiful music together.
@jesnjcg11
@jesnjcg11 11 лет назад
omg i love them.... their voices are so powerful yet so gentle!!!! only band i would pay to see in concert!!!
@purodramaaaa
@purodramaaaa 2 года назад
Everyone me and my beautiful love will be 20 years happily Inlove!❤️ 07-05-02
@blondie2010able
@blondie2010able 11 лет назад
omg I JUST GOT THE CD ALBUM I LOVE IT THIS SONG HAS A HAUNTING MELODY AND I AM IN LOVE WITH THE CIVIL WARS... WONDERFUL FOLK MUSIC
@jerryrunstrom3915
@jerryrunstrom3915 5 лет назад
Soo miss these two creating as one......
@KandyAz
@KandyAz 12 лет назад
my favorite Civil Wars song...may be my favorite song ever!
@BuildingAMystery1
@BuildingAMystery1 11 лет назад
How can such a talented duo split up? I can't imagine not hearing new music from them
@Chicarica2oo6
@Chicarica2oo6 12 лет назад
I love this song. If you've not seen them live, I suggest you find a date they're coming to your city and GOOOO!!!
@bobhemphut4011
@bobhemphut4011 Год назад
God they are so good together. Soul soothing.
@ashleygarcia5317
@ashleygarcia5317 7 лет назад
New favorite Civil Wars song
@actisoufre
@actisoufre 11 лет назад
from France: your association was great, very poetic, great style, beautiful voices. I am an artist too and the life for artists is very difficult but even the love went away, you can continue and offer us some new minutes of happiness. The things you create together are more important than your own separate life. That why the artists suffer more than another people
@noybkay7479
@noybkay7479 11 лет назад
This is absolutely breathtaking...
@jjgg8599
@jjgg8599 11 лет назад
These 2 are so talented and Joy is so beautiful
@twwtjohns
@twwtjohns 6 лет назад
Completely mesmerizing and remarkable, a novel sound I didn't realize existed.
@jacobwillis5461
@jacobwillis5461 11 лет назад
OH my god. They are so amazing.
@actisoufre
@actisoufre 11 лет назад
magnifique, great job, full of emotion... from France for my next film, I will use this song for music
@SamanthaRossiMusic
@SamanthaRossiMusic 12 лет назад
effortless, simple and yet so perfect! i want to bask in the richness of their sound for hours on end
@ShekharDaemon
@ShekharDaemon 11 лет назад
Please please please please please please come to INDIA....I will die for your Music guys........I found you couple of days back and You have changed so much.....I have never seen angels but I surely have seen them singing...and they are you both...
@eileenobrien9153
@eileenobrien9153 9 лет назад
The guitar is so beautiful!! (the singing as well, of course)
@jairedmobley4145
@jairedmobley4145 Год назад
come back here at least once a year I miss them so much
@Pablosammy1
@Pablosammy1 5 лет назад
How could they not fall in love with each other?!
@andrewstorrie3707
@andrewstorrie3707 Месяц назад
Back here many years later
@feeeerry
@feeeerry 11 лет назад
they are so beautiful, talented and deep I wanna hug them forever
@MsJesustakethemeal
@MsJesustakethemeal 11 лет назад
I love the way they look at each other.
@ama.p3nn
@ama.p3nn 12 лет назад
i love watching them! joy always performs like shes trippin out or something! so hypnotic!
@camancho13
@camancho13 3 года назад
I just discovered these two...absolutely beautiful voices. And they're not together anymore??? Wow...please, you two need to get back together, making incredible, beautiful sounds coming from your mouths. I just read up on their sudden professional break-up. Okay, it is apparently clear that these two became real close - deep feelings for each other. How difficult this situation must've been...She's married to their manager and she and JP are making incredible, beautiful music together. It is human nature...there are going to be serious, loving feelings involved. The fact that they don't even speak now, proves that they came to that point where their love for each other, which they probably tried to suppress, ultimately was their demise. That sucks. This happens, love fucks everything up and now these two aren't together making music together. Joy should truly search for her feelings deep down and get a divorce. This is Johnny Cash and June Carter all over again. Hope they get back together one day...they're meant to be together.
@carolyngibson9769
@carolyngibson9769 3 года назад
Owl Jolson they did the right thing.... both of them are married to other people..
@mariacastillo5625
@mariacastillo5625 3 года назад
She's been divorced since 2019. She's written amazing music on her own.
@camancho13
@camancho13 3 года назад
@@mariacastillo5625 Well then, one can only speculate if their past had anything to do with it...
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