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2002-2005 Yamaha Vino 50 Restrictor Removal : Detailed How-To 

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How to remove the restriction in the variator of 2002-2005 Yamaha Vino 50 two-stroke scooters. If you want a detailed step by step guide that explains everything; this is the video for you. I explain what to do and also why.
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@standardpremiumfinance4341
@standardpremiumfinance4341 4 года назад
Great instructional video. I did this mod years ago without the benefit of this excellent video. Clear and to the point. I also removed the restrictor from the pipe that made a huge difference! I've got a 45 mph little monster. Question: Do you have recommend any mods for airbox/filter and or different (hotter) plug as a result of these two mods? Seems like with both mods I may need to adjust airflow and/or jetting. Thanks for the great video!!
@egmedicus
@egmedicus 17 дней назад
Excellent ❤
@audrey6277
@audrey6277 2 года назад
Awesome
@4wbd
@4wbd 3 года назад
First, thank you! Second, do you have a video on how to reassemble the kickstarter? Getting the spring back in place is really kicking my trash!
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sJ7jxWexjZY.html
@portorozan
@portorozan 2 года назад
Best video i've seen in a while. Straight to the point. Nice tutorial. You gor yourself a new subscriber😁
@CompletelyNormalPhenomenon
@CompletelyNormalPhenomenon 5 лет назад
People, doing this, you will lose acceleration in "first gear" but gain top speed (provided that the spacer lets your belt sit closer to the shaft). It can be quite dramatic, like 10 km/h. Go ahead and experiment and see what you prefer. BUT, before you experiment or do anything, READ THIS and do not throw this spacer away! I'm only talking about the small spacers here. The big one is an obvious restriction and should be removed without issue. When reassembling, the conical washer that is used with the nut (also make sure to install conical washer the right way), should NOT touch the splines of the shaft. The conical washer should sit against the "whatever you call it other part". If that conical washer even slightly touches the splines, it will eat the splines away when you torque it, especially with an impact gun (which most people use). Have fun disassembling and repairing your splines and other damaged parts after that (if at all possible). This is applicable to Yamaha BWS of all years and probably most other brands of scooter. When checking if the spacer is required in the assembly (and given the tight tolerance of the assembly, I'm sure it's required 95% of times), make sure to give your belt some slack so that you see the real final assembly position, or even better check without a belt. If you can see the splines, or if it looks like that washer might touch the splines, or if in doubt, you need to put that spacer back, or another spacer of the appropriate thickness to protect the splines. The spacer should be over the splines if you go for this mod. You can put the spacer either completely at the back or at the front. Now you may think, but I've already done this and removed the spacer completely and everything is fine. Think again! This is a conical washer. It will sit slightly differently against the splines everytime you torque it. The first 15 times might be fine, but the 16th time it might completely destroy your splines away. You will potentially be screwed and very sad. Removing the spacer will also slightly affect the kick start mechanism. It automatically becomes "looser" if you completely remove the spacer (the mechanism has to go farther to engage). I'm not aware if this can lead to issues, but it's definitely not impossible. To recap: If you can see the splines when you're about to put the conical washer, you have a problem! You need a spacer. Put it completely at the back or at the front so that the splines are protected from that conical washer. Edit: after careful analysis, I believe it's better to put the spacer completely at the back of the variator (if you do the mod). This keeps the belt in a more natural enlignment to facilitate reaching the highest speed possible. If you completely remove the spacer or put it in front, the belt is angled in a way that doesn't help pushing the torque drive to it's "highest gear" position. P.S. If looking for top speed, have a look at your contra spring. Ensure that it is completely seated and free to rotate in it's location in your clutch. If it isn't completely seated even by 1 mm, it could affect your top speed quite a bit. Grind it (both the face or outside diameter, as required) until it's completely seated. Also look at the compressed length of your contra spring versus your torque drive. In the absolute "highest gear" position, my clutch leaves exactly 3cm for a compressed contra spring. The blue and red contra springs I have here, when I compressed them, are both exactly 3cm. This means that the torque drive has to COMPLETELY crush the spring for you to reach top speed. For the blue one, that means 65 pounds of pressure (measured on a body scale). For the red one, that's approx 100 pounds. That's a whole lot of force required on your spring for you to reach absolute top speed. Hence why you shouldn't use the stiffest contra springs unless you absolutely have to. You're most welcome. Remember to share your knowledge! Further reading: www.pedparts.co.uk/blog/variator-fitting-crankshaft-pulley-spline-damage benelliquattronove.wordpress.com/2018/06/05/scooter-cvt-variator-tuning-tip/
@Chicago_Boogie
@Chicago_Boogie 3 месяца назад
Picking up this same model tomorrow and am glad I checked out your video... definitely doing both these easy upgrades
@iulianciocan5672
@iulianciocan5672 4 года назад
holy sh... poop :))) this actualy explains alot clearly ! its so simple .. no more scooter mecanics with alot of $$ dumped ... u can do it at home , its simple !
@baldvale5418
@baldvale5418 4 года назад
Brilliant vlog, Thank you very much.
@ssparko7776
@ssparko7776 Год назад
Thanks! Just inherited a 2002 and got it running. Hard to believe they put a restrictor in place that is so easy to remove. Already knew most of this except the clutch workings so that was very helpful. Runs fast in mid rpm but takeoff is weak. Thanks Brent
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot Год назад
If takeoff is weak, I'd probably leave the restrictor or try it both ways. Sometimes they take off slower with the restrictor out because the belt doesn't get to the best low speed ratio anymore. Stiffer clutch springs may be helpful for you. Thanks!
@virjen007
@virjen007 3 года назад
Probably one of the best detailed video on you tube. Many Thanks.
@msakhter11
@msakhter11 4 года назад
Amazing Video. You do an excellent job of giving the perfect amount of detail and background information to help a novice complete the job. One question. What is the name of the tool that you use to hold the variator in place at 7:05 into the video? Thank you for all your help!
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 4 года назад
Variator holding tool or variator locking tool. Somewhere like ScooterTuning should have them.
@flat6fever680
@flat6fever680 4 месяца назад
This was extremely detailed and educational. Do you have one for removing the airbag and carb on the Vino 50? Mine won't start this year. Also, does the restrictor information apply to the Zuma 50 as well? Thank you. Liked and subscribed.
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 4 месяца назад
I don't have other videos specifically about the Vino because I only had the engine. I don't think the Zuma should have the same ring. They have other restrictions, like the CDI on 4T models or the throttle on 2T models.
@flat6fever680
@flat6fever680 4 месяца назад
@@49ccscoot ok my Zuma is a 50cc 2T. Any way to get a little more mph on top? Like restrictive device removal? TY
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 4 месяца назад
@@flat6fever680 Depending on the year... www.zumasrus.com/zdox/zprod14.html
@ScooterTuningChannel
@ScooterTuningChannel 5 лет назад
Nice Video. Greetings from Scooter Community Germany 👍🏻
@anthonyoriordan5967
@anthonyoriordan5967 4 года назад
Excellent teaching, description and helpful tips 🙂👍
@RimjobHimself
@RimjobHimself 3 года назад
@49ccScoot thanks for actually reply to comments unlike other RU-vidrs. I also have a Derbi runner 50 and its just like the aprilia sr50. I ran into one day that it is slow at start when getting up to speed and the rpm dropped from 7000 to 6000. I changed the belt and removed the 6g rollers and put in 5g. Since the exhaust is the original i checked it for restrictors and used a blow torch on it until i had smoke and flames coming out from the exhaust on idle. So i burned the catalysator clean i think but there is a air inlet on the exhaust that.draws air from the airbox and in to the exhaust. Also there is two blocked tubes running out from it also. I tried burning everything. Can i cut of the blocked pipes and the.air.inlet to the exhaust, and also cut open the last shiny part that i think is the catalysator and weld it back togheter? Maybe that will give it more performance? Anyway after burning the exhaust and 5g rollers i made it back to steadily 7500 rpm all the time even uphill and on the flats BUT its not as fast uphill as it was before. This is my fiances bike and you know i always gets complaints about the lack of performance. And of course i need to fix this with the things i have and not spend any money. The scooter is lacking will to start in a uphill and it feels like it slips or like it won't grip and get going. My own scooter is a a different league and its like im on a motorcycle compared to the derbi. I am to open it up again, check reeds, check airbox, maybe rejet from i think 85 back to 75.main.jet and of course look at cvt and see if the belt is to wide in the front or to low in the back. Tried be very spesific.. Can you maybe give me some ideas? I know two stroke so using a wrench is easy for me. Also it has downhill when releasing the throttle and after few seconds give it wot again hesitate for a loooong time before kicking back..thats why i was thinking reeds. You have any ideas about that also? I was thinking about fitting a red torque spring i have laying here but im not sure what it does..thats why I have been spending 5 hours now looking on utube about springs. Still not sure. The clutch engages about at 5000rpm.and it has red clutch springs. Also wanted to mention that. No restritor on variator of course. Thank you!! Ps just subbed as well. :) U wanna see freedive visit me
@rickb3288
@rickb3288 3 года назад
Very good presentation skills. I learned a lot. Thanks for taking the time to create this video.
@jesusalvarado7337
@jesusalvarado7337 Год назад
I just got a 2006 Yamaha vino 50cc 4t does it also have a restrictor? I can only go 35 tops if that. If anyone could help I’d appreciate it.
@cncrim1
@cncrim1 Год назад
does 2003 Honda Metropolitan have restrictor? I google but no luck.
@davouchi1
@davouchi1 5 лет назад
great video mate. thanks for posting and you are a wealth of knowledge. i have a vino 125, would this be the same kinda process?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 5 лет назад
Quite similar setup, but I don't think they restricted the larger scoots. 50s are often restricted for legal issues.
@leonburnetteakadeaththekid2500
90gtvert my 2018 taotao just started leaking gas out of I have video on my channel please help
@maxtraveler8160
@maxtraveler8160 5 лет назад
Excellent very comprehensive and can be applied to other scooters Thanks
@ryancafferty4973
@ryancafferty4973 2 месяца назад
I need a stator for one of these, how come they’re so so hard to find?
@rootdirectory5623
@rootdirectory5623 5 лет назад
Hey there, first and foremost your my #1 scooter parts expert when it comes to 50cc's. Keep up the good work buddy. I have a gy6 50cc that I'm reassembling from scratch due to blowing the engine compartment due to lack of oil, thats my luck I guess. I'm keeping all working parts and swapping the bad parts. I've gotten lucky as not to replace too many parts but, I did manage to damage a main component. I believe it's the gearbox breather, a white plastic valve that sits 2 bolts from the left of the gearbox drain bolt. So my questions are, what is the correct name of the part and, where can I find it if possible? Thanks a lot
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 5 лет назад
Is it actually a valve or just a barb/nipple? Usually that's just an overflow.
@rootdirectory5623
@rootdirectory5623 5 лет назад
90GTVert got it, thanks a ton.
@omarfarouk4221
@omarfarouk4221 Год назад
I think now ik why my Honda dio af34 stops at 40 kmh
@chaytonruijsenaars3971
@chaytonruijsenaars3971 5 лет назад
i actually got one of these little scooters for like 10 bucks once, it was missing all the plastic ferrings and alot of the wiring was ruined including it had no spark. i looked up a service manual on line and found the blue and green wire need hooked to like the ground and the red wire and the brown wire are the kill switch and they need connected for it to run. once i fixed the spark i cut the muffler off hoping it would run better. turns out the carb is so small it needs that much back pressure to even run well at all. i got a much less restrictive muffler and took a torch tip cleaner and filed the jet out a little bigger and it runs solid now. does a solid 25 miles an hour. removing the restrictor will probably make it go 30 top speed. the motor revs up pretty solid so i think if it had more gear it would go faster. it revs only so high and then it starts four stroking
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 5 лет назад
There may be more in it with some fine tuning of the carb as well. Four-stroking makes me think that either the mix is off or there is some sort of rev limiter. I don't think it should have one, but you can always put it on the stand securely and see if it will rev higher without load. If it revs more than on the road, then it's not an RPM limiter causing your troubles in real world use.
@Bert439
@Bert439 5 лет назад
This looks so similar to a 2005 Zuma, I have the parts to replace the transmission with an NCY Kit. You sold me on getting an impact now. To Harbor Freight I go.
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 5 лет назад
Just be careful using it to tighten. Use a torque stick. With low power impact guns you may be OK, but anything with much power will strip threads on the crank eventually.
@Bert439
@Bert439 5 лет назад
@@49ccscoot Taking in your expertise, would a pin wrench immobilize the Clutch Bell and Variator? I am looking at a decent affordable Torque wrench to use to remove the lock nuts and to reinstall them.
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 5 лет назад
@@Bert439 Yeah. Holding the variator (via the flywheel) is shown. The clutch bell has plenty of spots for it too. Don't use a torque wrench to remove things. Just use it to tighten.
@boblinus9648
@boblinus9648 5 лет назад
I use a cordless drill with adjustable torque. A $6 bit set lets you use sockets with your drill. A Ryobi P271 Drill specifies 340 in. lb. of torque in the manual. (38.4 Nm) There are 24 settings on the drill. So you'll get about 1.6Nm per setting on the drill. Taking off the variator nut without an impact wrench is a pain. To help remove the variator nut there is a video on using a half inch thick or so piece of wood with bolts and a hole cut for the socket. Video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5AbwtGP1bjI.html It's not perfect, but seems to work ok for me. Make sure you get the service manual for your scooter and find out the torque specs for whatever you're dealing with. Drill socket adapter: amzn.to/2tV9BNX
@DIYManiacJohnP
@DIYManiacJohnP 11 месяцев назад
The small shim is needed to correct for belt thickness. Thicker shims are needed to compensate for thicker belts
@2ride_along
@2ride_along Год назад
Hello, have you tried to remove a baffle in the exhaust header? if there is one of course. Thanks
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot Год назад
I only had the engine itself. I bought it just to see the 5BM's special case design for myself. Usually if there is a restricition in a header, it's right at the end and easy to see.
@j.p.8276
@j.p.8276 3 года назад
Great job! Well presented.
@redward98
@redward98 5 лет назад
Thanks, very nice and descriptive video. Love, Edward
@nastynatesscooters9896
@nastynatesscooters9896 Год назад
Hey do you know the size of the vino/jog cvt cover bearing?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot Год назад
Prob the same size as the clone, but I'm not 100% on that. 49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/6145/minarelli-clone-bearings-seals-torque
@gabe2053
@gabe2053 7 месяцев назад
How much ft lbs does that torque stick have?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 7 месяцев назад
30
@paulhaywood5197
@paulhaywood5197 5 месяцев назад
Mint, no bull. Just straight forward, good information. Thanks.
@ragv2310
@ragv2310 8 месяцев назад
This is such a good video. So much great information provided. Thank you!
@MRTuning704
@MRTuning704 5 лет назад
What’s up !this happens to be my scooter motor but rear drum lol
@gap7150
@gap7150 4 года назад
fascinating...
@jamesconner3437
@jamesconner3437 3 года назад
This is maybe the only, and certainly the easiest, "derestriction" that you can make to the later Vino years, with the 4-stroke engines. On the 4 stroke you should get 4mph improvement without a noticeable detriment to acceleration, as long as you weigh under 180 or so. The heavier you are, the more the speed will be at the expense of acceleration. Truly, I think 50cc is a machine for riders under 160 lbs. . Can any owner of 4-stroke Vino 50s confirm my experience ?
@antuning5656
@antuning5656 6 месяцев назад
Hello, i love your videos and win 1 more sub, i´m Johne form Portugal, i have one yamaha neos 50cc engine stock and she dont pass of 70km/h, what can i do without install a 70cc kit to make it run a little more fast? Thanks
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 6 месяцев назад
If you can do it there, a tuned pipe will increase speed. With some CVT tuning, you should be quicker and faster.
@antuning5656
@antuning5656 6 месяцев назад
@@49ccscoot what do you mean tuned pipe, is exhaust performance?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 6 месяцев назад
@@antuning5656 Correct. A performance exhaust. Big bore kits and exhausts are the biggest gains for our small two-strokes.
@coyote4936
@coyote4936 10 месяцев назад
Why was there not a new gasket placed on the cvt cover? Thank you for such an informative video
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 10 месяцев назад
Use a new gasket if it's damaged. For me, this is not an engine that I was putting together to run at the time.
@coyote4936
@coyote4936 10 месяцев назад
@@49ccscoot cool thanks
@ryanb6658
@ryanb6658 Месяц назад
How many mph more will it get you?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot Месяц назад
It won't get you much stock in some cases. For me, being heavy, it slows down acceleration and doesn't change speed by more than a couple MPH. If you added a pipe and still had the restrictor though, the extra horsepower could make better use of more belt travel.
@ItsMe-dj8zd
@ItsMe-dj8zd 5 лет назад
Finally working on that Tao Tao engine swap 👍
@jamesconner3437
@jamesconner3437 3 года назад
What ??? What Tao Tao are you putting in that you would take out Yamaha's engine ????
@Weber1987
@Weber1987 3 года назад
@@jamesconner3437 maybe he is swapping and putting a yamaha in the Tao Tao cause no one would do the opposite
@michaelbearse4733
@michaelbearse4733 3 года назад
So this must be exactly why my wheels not moving. I'm going to have to open it back up.
@clalam5241
@clalam5241 2 года назад
I own a kymco like 50 4t will this work?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 2 года назад
Maybe. Some of the Kymco scoots actually use a drive boss that has a restrictor built in, so you can't just remove a spacer. They have to be replaced or machined.
@armdrop101
@armdrop101 Год назад
The china 50cc scooters have these? To restrict
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot Год назад
Some of them do.
@marcelodietrich8674
@marcelodietrich8674 11 месяцев назад
Awesome! Thank you! 🫵🏼👊🏼👍🏼
@HotelEdenMusic
@HotelEdenMusic Год назад
So clear and well explained, thank you!
@rickie6172
@rickie6172 Год назад
Can i put a 70 cc kit in my scooter, its 4 T.
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot Год назад
Sure, as long as there's a big bore kit made for it. Depends what it is, but most small scoots have larger bores available.
@sungazergaming9996
@sungazergaming9996 3 года назад
Ive seen that if you do this it wears down the belt quciker
@ZPDSurvival
@ZPDSurvival 2 года назад
Great Video, Thank You.
@jcrean3
@jcrean3 4 месяца назад
What do you run for 2T oil?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 4 месяца назад
I use AMSOil Dominator Racing 2T premixed at 32:1.
@RodJustRealtor
@RodJustRealtor 3 года назад
All that work for nothing... And I screwed up (asked had to remove) the kickstart system on my 2020 IceBear 50cc! There was literally NO washer behind the star key and fixed half at 8:26! Wah wah!
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
The Ice Bear is a four-stroke. They are often just restricted by lack of horsepower. Look at the bright side; if you are going to work on your own scooter, you'd have to learn how to check out the CVT eventually.
@johnny787
@johnny787 Год назад
You're a natural teacher! Fantastic video!! Subscribed. Is it possible the conical washer went in backwards?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot Год назад
It did go in backwards. Nice catch!
@danahannabrundies5398
@danahannabrundies5398 2 года назад
Wondering if you can help, I've got my 50 cc 2005 Vino running after sitting for 5 years, but will not throttle up to the max, even after carb is extremely clean, new plug, air filter etc. any ideas what it could be? TIA
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 2 года назад
Even with the carb "extremely clean", if it won't throttle up to max (assuming you mean you can't use full throttle) I would check the main jet to be certain it's clear. Not a bad idea to be sure it wasn't damaged in cleaning, like opened up to a larger orifice size. Any more details about what it does when you try to use full throttle may be helpful.
@damacknificent151
@damacknificent151 2 года назад
I know this is an old video but, can this work on a 2019 metropolitan? It currently hits 37 - 38 mph. What else can help it go fast? My kid weigh like 65lbs and I 205lbs still same top speed.
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 2 года назад
Check this out : 49ccscoot.proboards.com/post/320297/thread
@italos34
@italos34 2 года назад
Hello I have a yamaha cr90 target from the factory has 788 15,5 28 belt I have the same problem the belt sitting low on back plates, how we can do the belt to sit in upper position in back plates? Longer belt?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 2 года назад
You can check to see what you need. If you take the fixed half off of the front pulley, the belt can then sit right on the drive boss. You may have to rotate the pulleys a few times. If it then rides near the edge of the rear pulley, then you could get there by spacing the front pulley. If it still doesn't reach, the belt isn't long enough to do it.
@R3Elle
@R3Elle 3 года назад
Very informative video. Is this a similar set up to a 2013 Honda Metropolitan?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
TBH I don't have much experience with those. Here's some info that may help : 49ccscoot.proboards.com/post/320297/thread www3.telus.net/MyScoot/metropolitan.html
@kentbarger6974
@kentbarger6974 5 лет назад
It's probably got dowel pins in the case
@alejandrosantiago3329
@alejandrosantiago3329 3 года назад
Alejandro Santiago. 49cc
@gonzalodel8528
@gonzalodel8528 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, really interesting
@keeper0523
@keeper0523 5 лет назад
THANK YOU
@bperley1984
@bperley1984 3 года назад
I just took my clutches apart yesterday and notice that the small washer was behind the primary clutch, engine side. I just bout this from someone with 4k miles, and I can tell someone already did the mod, but left that shim behind the clutch?? What does that do? I took it out completely, put in a new belt, cleaned the clutches, and didn't notice any boost taking that shim out. Feels like I lost low end torque if anything. As for the big washer, it was not in there.
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
If it's behind the variator, it's just spacing the variator outward. Make sure removing it didn't cause any problems with tightening and the splines aren't showing past the kick pawl.
@bperley1984
@bperley1984 3 года назад
@@49ccscoot Yeah removing it ended up damaging the splines and I over tightened. So now I need a new crack shaft... so it's down until next spring. Hope no one makes the same mistake. If only I had just left it in there. I think i also blew a head gasket too, cause I can no longer start it, and only get maybe 95-100psi on compression. Just got it last week too for 300 bucks. Cleaned everything and thought everything felt good, but was still having hard time with keeping it going... But yesterday it shit the bed.
@michaelbearse4733
@michaelbearse4733 3 года назад
But I'll ask anyway. If the back wheels not turning then this could very well be the problem? And it makes sense.
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
If it just revs and the wheel never turns, it's more likely that the belt is broken or something more serious is wrong.
@applecapfocus1691
@applecapfocus1691 3 года назад
Can you do mine I am in New York
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
There has to be a scooter mechanic in NY. This shouldn't be a tough job for any scooter shop worth going to.
@Aj-om4dt
@Aj-om4dt 3 года назад
Awesome video dude I’ve subscribed to your channel but no notifications are showing?? I taped the bell icon not sure if it’s just RU-vids fault?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
Notifications seem to be working OK for at least some, because I have subs watching almost as soon as I upload. I have noticed my own subscriptions have been a little different with notifications lately though, so YT may be working on something. Not sure. Here's a help article about notifications : support.google.com/youtube/answer/7391308
@survivalishardstaystorng
@survivalishardstaystorng 2 года назад
The placement of the mark is different from the first time you drew it to when you're lining up the reason why you see that space is because that Mark started directly in the center and then you do it backwards and down around the more courage or part of the pulley now you have it more centered and now you have the gap this is an inaccurate test watch your video back see where you started to draw the line you started the draw the line where your pointer is and then you do it back and down now you have a line centered over that part it's getting to change the diameter in the shape is not going to match up with the shape it was originally drawn in that position you have it more on the flat area of the belt where it's coming off science
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 2 года назад
I've done this at least hundreds of times. It is a simple way to see how far the belt can travel outward in the rear pulley with different changes. Trust me, if you alter the spacing in the front pulley and change how the belt rides there; it will change how the belt rides in the rear pulley and therefor change how the clutch works and the drive ratio at takeoff.
@kentbarger6974
@kentbarger6974 5 лет назад
Use an impact driver with a Phillips head on it number 3
@tubedarren
@tubedarren 3 года назад
Hey mate is this the same for the 1991 Yamaha jog (cg50)?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
I don't know if that model has a restriction, but if it does the engines are very similar so the process would go about the same.
@2006backus
@2006backus 5 лет назад
Very, very comprehensive, Thank you so much!
@opichocal
@opichocal 5 лет назад
How much did the motor cost? I bought a crf50 motor off eBay years ago and it was junk. $400 down the drain
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 5 лет назад
I honestly can't remember. I bought it 2-3 years ago and it has been sitting on a shelf since. I think around $200.
@beta21ml
@beta21ml 3 года назад
Avoid removal of the cover enable to save time
@johnrobinson2880
@johnrobinson2880 5 лет назад
I had weird thing happen. I lost all my sub channels. Could i ask your advise on some things ? Yes i know the forums are full of what i seek. But i think you are the person i can ask. Simple stuff, just a confirmation of what i have come up with - for ideas ? A bounce off so to speak. Ok with that - pick your brain a bit.
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 5 лет назад
Go ahead.
@notmadnomad2674
@notmadnomad2674 2 года назад
Fantastic thanks man. Watched a ton of these but yours is the only one that works 🙂 I've a Yamaha BWS 100 and I'm fixing it tomorrow on your good advice!
@mondomontie7449
@mondomontie7449 7 месяцев назад
What results did u get
@robertschauer4281
@robertschauer4281 3 года назад
great video like the details I have a 2021 super 50cc scooter that will not go over 22mph and it doesn't have a restrictor washer on it just check a hr ago . so is it the rollers? cuz I'm at a loss
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
Could be rollers. I'd check RPM first. See if it is rev limited.
@bratvaoflemnos8403
@bratvaoflemnos8403 3 года назад
Will this work for gilera runner 50cc 2-stroke 2017 model?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
I have no experience with that scooter, but check this out : www.adrenalin-pedstop.co.uk/Tutorials/Tutorial5.aspx
@sabatoria9510
@sabatoria9510 Год назад
Hey, is there a chance of the belt slipping out because of this? Nice video.
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot Год назад
The stock belt shouldn't be long enough to come out of the pulleys when assembled.
@japanrider283
@japanrider283 5 лет назад
I'm trying to restore a scooter(yamaha jog aprio 1996 model) with the same exact engine here in Japan, genuine parts are quite expensive, used or unused.
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 5 лет назад
A member of my forum is working on a Jog in the US and having to source some of the parts from Japan and other parts of the world. Being older, they seem to think parts are just drying up.
@incognito8448
@incognito8448 4 года назад
and introduced much more belt wear
@Petethebuilder
@Petethebuilder 2 года назад
Loved the video 👍👍 so detailed. What else can I do to upgrade my 50cc engine?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 2 года назад
Lots of things. My first choice is to not have a 50 anymore by installing a big bore kit. Sport 70cc kits are a big improvement in power. You can put an exhaust on a 2T and get nice gains, but I still prefer the BBK first. If more power is desired after that, then get an exhaust for the 70cc setup.
@mickeyjohnson4183
@mickeyjohnson4183 2 года назад
I own a 2006 Yamaha Vino 50. Experiencing trouble. From cold start motor runs 45 mph easily. Once the motor warms drops down to about 15 and does not get better miss badly. I am thinking stator or coil. Recommendations?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 2 года назад
Sometimes the simple stuff works, so replace the spark plug and make sure the cap is snug. If that doesn't do it, gap the plug to roughly half the usual spec. Something like 0.012"-0.014". If that clears it up, something in the ignition system is weak.
@mickeyjohnson4183
@mickeyjohnson4183 2 года назад
@@49ccscoot thank you. I truly enjoy my little scooter. When I got it it had 501 mile. It now has almost 10,000 . Other than this issue I'm having now the only thing I've ever done has been changed the spark plug the tires and a proper maintenance oil changing every 500 to 750 MI
@bobbondarul7448
@bobbondarul7448 Год назад
@richardmonk8957
@richardmonk8957 4 года назад
Hi I have a tgb 202 classic would this work on that, great video well explained and clear 👍
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 4 года назад
I'm not familiar with exactly how or if that scooter is restricted, but this is a fairly common practice. Some even use a drive boss with one end cut to be a built in restrictor. In those cases, you have to replace the drive boss or have it machined down.
@TheRyadrian
@TheRyadrian 2 года назад
You lost me at torque stick. When you think youve seen it all lol!..
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 2 года назад
Regardless of what armchair experts think; in the real world, removing and installing variators thousands of times, it works fine. Yes, the textbook proper method is a torque wrench to spec with a holding tool to keep the crank still. A torque stick works well enough. You would probably be surprised to see how few mechanics use a torque wrench for these. I think today most use an electric drill/impact and guess at it. Too little and the nut may come off. Too much and the threads will strip immediately or with repeated use. This is from real world experience, not watching or hearing about it or opinion.
@TheRyadrian
@TheRyadrian 2 года назад
@@49ccscoot sorry man what I was suppose to say was I had no idea what a torque stick is. Very interested to use one now. I can imagine it would save time.
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 2 года назад
@@TheRyadrian My bad. So many know-it-alls in the comments that I took it that way. They are not precise like a torque wrench, but are effective. I don't recommend them on everything. I'd never torque a cylinder head that way and so on. Nice when used for more appropriate tasks.
@TheRyadrian
@TheRyadrian 2 года назад
@@49ccscoot Na no worries man, when i have time im really interested to look into how this thing works lol like a stick thingy for torque wrenching i cant wrap my head around it but dont spoil it for me! I shall do the research in this near future.
@coastalcleaningandmaintena2884
@coastalcleaningandmaintena2884 4 года назад
Nice detailed straight to the point . I have a 01 vertical minarelli will my trans be the same as this?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 4 года назад
I don't know if that will have restrictions, but it will be a very similar CVT.
@carlosdominguez5371
@carlosdominguez5371 3 года назад
Hey do you know were you can get a replacement crankcase gasket
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
What crankcase gasket? Usually 2Ts don't have a gasket between the case halves. They use a sealant there, like ThreeBond. If you mean the one for the CVT cover, then I would check Yamaha first. If you can't find a Yamaha gasket, a gasket for the 1E40QMB Chinese clone looks like it should fit.
@eamonnmckeown6770
@eamonnmckeown6770 3 года назад
do you have a shop open to the public? I'm getting tired of working on scooters. I've noticed you're local to me as you seem to be in Md.
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
Not anymore. I just work on my own stuff.
@eamonnmckeown6770
@eamonnmckeown6770 3 года назад
@@49ccscoot thanks for the reply.
@franknewcomb5299
@franknewcomb5299 5 лет назад
The last washer was placed with the bump the wrong way in.
@NeoCGS
@NeoCGS 5 лет назад
Oh SHIT!
@dc3763
@dc3763 5 лет назад
Wee, new vid :D Is this a short block minarelli ?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 5 лет назад
It's a short case. A lot like the Jog or the Chinese short case clones.
@edub715
@edub715 4 года назад
Has anyone ever had a starter gear that will not come off the spline/crank shaft? Mine is really stuck on and will not let go on a Yamaha Zuma 2002 50cc
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 4 года назад
Sometimes the splines on these cranks get buggered up a bit and it makes things hard to remove. Maybe a few taps with a mallet would break it loose. You can try stuff like heat or penetrating oil or a puller if it's really bad. Once it's off, look over the splines on the crank and starter clutch. Sometimes quick work with a small triangular file clears up issues there.
@edub715
@edub715 4 года назад
@@49ccscoot Thank you for such a detailed reply. You are right the splines were messed up at the very end of the shaft that would not allow it to slide off. I had to use a gear puller on the variator that finally popped it off.
@HuzJorDedi
@HuzJorDedi 3 года назад
There is no need to remove kickstarter to remove CVT cover.
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
You don't have to remove the kick starter for the CVT cover... unless it has the dust shield in place. The dust shield blocks some bolts that secure the cover and the dust shield won't come off with the lever in place.
@roninfinn3626
@roninfinn3626 3 года назад
What’s the name of the gold thing that holds the thing in place
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 3 года назад
Yamaha calls it a claw washer. I think the most common name I've heard others say is star washer.
@jerrymatthews8968
@jerrymatthews8968 3 года назад
Thanks- good video!
@Astriddd333
@Astriddd333 5 лет назад
5:22 so do I just order a belt size up? Mine runs something like 18 30 69 (obviously in the wrong order but you get what I'm saying) I also put an aftermarket air filter and staggered 5 6 and 7 gram rollers in the front varietal hitting 40 pretty quickly. I know a decent amount about mopeds since I've worked with them and on mine a lot but there's always more to learn. That's the way I like to think anyway. Someone please let me know! Thank you!
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 5 лет назад
You can try to check if your belt is capable of reaching out farther first. If so, try more CVT tuning. Usually you only stagger 2 different weights for balance reasons.
@Astriddd333
@Astriddd333 5 лет назад
90GTVert further forward towards the variator or towards the transmission? And I think it does but I don't know off the top of my head. Thank you
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 5 лет назад
@@Astriddd333 Riding toward the outside of the vari and inside of the rear pulley is what would be the speed gearing.
@effyoo6081
@effyoo6081 4 года назад
Why did you remove the kickstart arm? It stays with the cover when you pull off the bolts around the cvt cover. All of it stats one piece. You added two unnecessary steps and removing that kickstart arm is a bitch sometimes.
@alanatienza357
@alanatienza357 3 года назад
Because you can’t remove the plastic cover without removing the kick start lever. You can’t access the longest center screw of the metal cover without removing the plastic cover.
@effyoo6081
@effyoo6081 3 года назад
@@alanatienza357 yes you can. All you have to do is move the kickstart arm out of the way of the screw. Take it off 1st so the arm goes back into place and you can remove the rest. I've done this job on dozens if scooters. None required the kickstart to be disassembled.
@effyoo6081
@effyoo6081 3 года назад
@@alanatienza357 once the plastic cover is off, the kickstart arm slips right through the hole
@kamilkusior4670
@kamilkusior4670 3 года назад
the belt is too short
@leonburnetteakadeaththekid2500
hey my friend do you think my tao tao has that same restriction on it too
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 5 лет назад
Probably not. A lot of the TaoTaos are restricted only by 49cc 4T power. Mine had no restrictions. Just some EPA junk, like a sealed carb.
@gregsmith3410
@gregsmith3410 4 года назад
Gained almost 10 mph..about 38 now..with small shim still installed..you think I should remove that one as well..?
@49ccscoot
@49ccscoot 4 года назад
If you want the most from it, I'd try it both ways and see what happens. Your current speed is pretty much on par and that's a big gain so my guess is that it's not going to make much difference.
@gregsmith3410
@gregsmith3410 4 года назад
@@49ccscoot 👌👌
@gregsmith3410
@gregsmith3410 4 года назад
@@49ccscoot does the small spacer effect top end speed in any way ?
@jfarinha95
@jfarinha95 2 года назад
Nice tutorial !!!
@Andon0w
@Andon0w Год назад
Very helpful ❤
@MrDenis7p
@MrDenis7p 2 года назад
Thank You!
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