2004 Honda Accord Vs. 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 Offset Crash Test (50% Overlap) 

Definitely understand you're not in control over the film stock they used, and I appreciate you taking the time to comb through their archives and upload footage. I would like to know from someone at NHTSA why they used 16mm film for so long, though.

They used 16mm film into the mid 2000’s? Why? And why the matchup of a 2002 dodge and 2004 Honda?

Keep in mind that they're filming this at 1000 FPS. The amount of data generated by a high resolution, uncompressed video feed at 1000 fps is absolutely massive. Back then we had spinning hard drives. Even an array of 10,000 rpm drives in RAID could likely not keep up with that. They'd need a machine specially designed for this application and I guarantee it wouldn't be cheap. Film is a simple, effective solution. It probably didn't make much sense to switch to digital when this was filmed.

Joe gac, I suppose I’m too young to understand film very well

I definitely understand why digital video wasn't an option. I've just noticed that tests filmed by IIHS in the same time period are much higher quality. My question isn't so much film vs. DV but 16 mm film vs a higher quality film.

thats government efficency

Not even 1980's this is like 1950's technology.

hahaha

I know right

It did is job though 😒😒😒😒

Bud It didn't get to the airbag switch

@@codycannon1939 Theres not a switch. It has like an accellorometer that can tell when the car stops suddenly, like your phone knows when you flip it.

@@jz4853 The older Ram does have an airbag

7th gen accord (this one in the video) for a year or so in its production had an airbag recall. not sure if it was before or after this test, but still. the fact that the A pillar held up good with that impact is highly impressive.

king of the dad jokes everybody. Nothing important here, move along!

or if they just weren't driving a RAM

Good one

@@slapshotjack9806 hey he could not dodge it so he rammed it

Omg this reply section 🤣🤣🤣 According to the dummy's driving these cars, the truck rammed it because it couldnt dodge it. Dunno if combining all of them is funny or not lol.

Well said! Lol

Well, if you can't *dodge* it...

@@OnlyNotes Bah boom 👍

As was said in the movie "Babe the Pig," BaaaaaaaRammmYouuu!

Ram bam thank you ma'am

The interior cabin was crushed in the accord,watch at 4:54...dash is pushed in,windshield crushed,driver pushed half out the drivers window,pitiful !

01trsmar a windshield crushing happens in basically every car crash known to man

01trsmar and as long as the drive doesn’t get completely ejected and flies out of the car they wouldn’t be dead

@@01trsmar For the time, that was acceptable. Remember these cars were released in 2003, and probably designed after 1998. Very common back then. If you look at GM or Ford designs back then, a lot of A pillars popped up where the Honda one stays put.

@@01trsmar yeah no kidding

Except the fact those in the Ram might not be able to walk out of the car due to their injuries, whereas the Accord passengers might be okay.

the guy in the ram would smash his head into the steering wheel lol I would prefer the airbag thx (also imagine being in that ram and hitting a tree/truck/wall or getting t-boned damn)

That truck is definitely totaled due to a bent frame

Curious no bag deployment?

Try having a 3 inch circle of steel at the end of your steering column that would cave your chest in, no airbags and seatbelts that would snap in 40mph crash😂 fun fact, last year I got in a crash cause some douchebag in an impala cut in front of me by 1 or 2 feet and brake checked me when it was pouring rain and I caved in and tore up his entire rear end(hehe) and shattered his rear window and all I had damage wise was a sore neck and had to buy new a grille and head lamp assembly cause it cracked. Rams are tough as fuck especially the 1st gens, fuckers are solid steel and everything is very tight and solid

Thanks.

2001-2002 was the time frame of the A1 inflators. That's a 2004 Accord.

Kinda ironic that the thing that saves you in a crash could end up killing you.

@@midwestfarm757 I had a Takada I.E.D recall for my 2006 Subaru WRX, same recall for my wife's 2008 VW Golf R-32?

@@Nik.Coffman They are replacing all of them to be safe, but the A1 inflator is the one that has a 50/50 chance of blowing up. That's why there's a door to door campaign to find all 2001 2002 civics/Accords and get them repaired.

@@midwestfarm757 Oh I see. Thanks for the info man

I thought the same thing

It's scary to think about because 7 of my family members have this same generation of ram

Probably the accelerometer or the RCM didnt detect that it had a sudden stop sufficient enough to deploy the airbags or because Chrysler jeep dodge ram make cheaply made cars

It did deploy; you’re just blind.

@@robertbennett2796 .They are not cheaply made cars...truck is old and who knows what the previous owners did to it...Accord of that year are cheap,the transmissions fail from brand new and waterpump housings crack when they were new !

@@miniena7774 the rams airbags didnt deploy dumbass

🤣

Haha, Good one

Nope

@@victorestrada9060 For their day and when equipped with side curtain airbags, yes they were safe cars. Built years before small overlap tests.

Not safe, but junk

Victor estrada For the day they are safe, and they are far from junk. Some of the most reliable cars you can buy.

@Wolf Among Sheep Sorry but Ford isn't junk, Chevy is. Also, Chrysper is owned by Fiat just so you know.

I have damn near the same everything Accord (minor cosmetic differences) and after watching this video, I feel even safer and more confident driving such a vehicle! The Ram, however....sup with the airbag; where’s it when you need it? Kinda scary truth be told.

Ifs good for 2004 even though it’s like there 43 time testing it

@@mpaulk2023..Well you're near dead in a crash in the Accord,look how smashed the Accord is...plus your arm will be hanging out after that and probably need to be amputated ! Interior of the Accord is crushed !

01trsmar that’s really an overstatement every car that gets in a crash like this would be smashed it’s called a CRUMPLE ZONE. I honestly think the driver in the ram would be dead because the air bag didn’t deploy

01trsmar also just because an arm hangs out the window of a crash doesn’t mean it has to be amputated or even broken

30mph

Forces on the dummies in the truck were lower than the forces on the dummies in the Honda, but only slightly. Everybody would have walked away. Limits for serious injury are 1,000 HIC and 60 G's on the chest. The HICs were all below 400 and chest G's below 40, forces on the legs of all occupants were low as well. October 18, 2021 10:13 pm

@HexagramMan Nice asshole smartass reply on someone just giving their 2 cents. And people wonder why RU-vid sucks fucking ass these days.

Knee injuries suck

Umm.. I mean, the Accord held up well, but if you're traveling in one direction and you get hit with enough force to change to negative G's instantly, it's not going to be a good time. The smart cars were known as coffin boxes for a reason. They preserve your body after the immediate negative G.

@@rustbeltrobclassic2512 What do you think should have happened when a ~5000 pound truck traveling at high speeds crashes into a stationary ~3000 pound car that isn't secured? The scenario could have been reversed and the truck would have went flying backwards too, just not as much because of the weight difference.

@@averyalexander2303 That was my point..

@Squeek Tate I wouldn't disagree, makes life interesting sometimes not in the best ways though

Not exactly. Your car will look worse, but you will be better. That's what the crumple zones are for. It absorbs the impact. I'd rather be in that Civic than my 97 Grand Cherokee in a crash.

i drive a 01 civic 5speed and i feel safe in it. most of the cars ive owned are hondas. so far been driving for 13years with no accidents.

Those are great cars. Thumbs the hell up for 13+ years with no accidents! Stay good man.

Sold my civic on the same thought

2005 accord owner here. 201,800 miles today and still going strong.

Yummy concussions. You know the energy from the crash has to go somewhere, correct? The accord did its job of absorbing the energy from the impact and if there was a driver in the ram their body would bear the force of the impact

@@calvinhilsinger It didn’t get to airbag switch, the Ram just got bumper damage

I got a feeling I‘ll see your RAM on craigslist soon

Emilthehun cheap domestics to smash up the import

@@Lubbocksfinest I am not entirely sure how would that be a proper comparison being that safety regulations get changed year after year.

Probably because there are more older domestics on the road than old imports. Detroit Iron was made to last.

That Accord is the same from 2003 - 2007 and the Ram goes 2002 - 2009, They're perfectly even in my opinion. @John Davis "more older domestics than old imports. Detroit iron was made to last." If you're saying older imports weren't made to last you're waaaaay off.

@@Lubbocksfinest ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DERBxX9-hxM.html

Best comment on all of RU-vid

Yeah,becease its safe car:)

More like that's the vehicle that lasts longest in a drunk's hands. You can't just conjure another compact after you total it on your concrete porch. You can however just get more concrete after you break your concrete porch on your truck's frame again.

Screw those repairs I’m using that truck to go to Hawaii.

@@accountnotusedanymore9119 lmao

Yes. 250 hic is when concussions happen 1000 hic and more is when death can happen. The drive had a 350 and the passenger had a 130. The driver would probably have a concussion but both would have lived.

@@unluckyabsol ..Severely injured and never the same !

01trsmar Ram driver dead because the airbags didn’t deploy

@@01trsmar the accord weighs about 2000 pounds less than the ram(estimated) and was going 60 miles an hour while the accord was at a stop. I would have much preferred to be in the accord In this crash. The rams airbags deployed and the drivers head slammed into the steering wheel. While the accord driver may have sustained a concussion, it could have gone much worse. If this was In an older car would probably kill the driver.

They wouldn't survive if the accord was moving not sitting still

Yeah, different outcome. From what I see it would just smash under the truck and rip off the A pillar along with the occupants heads.

If it was actually moving, it would be a way different story

@@gabesmath105 true, but I was talking about the current circumstances in the current video

You can't fix that car Spicoli!!

People on ‘ludes should not drive.

Cuz you weren't going 60

It doesn’t it looks like the 2000 or 1999

Possibly

There wouldn't be a truck after that😂I think most trains are millions and millions of pounds vs the 6000 a dodge weighs... Would be fun to watch tho 😜

m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-noor55yGWHc.html m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LYN_0HxguyQ.html So much for that idea, hahaha 😂

More like from 1973

How fast? What was the other car you hit?

@@gabesmath105 like 60mph and i crashed my car from the front with a rear part of a big truck, i broke my chest bones my right arm and I got a sprain on my right foot, 3 months in bed total loss of my car the best I’m here!

The car was parked. Different story if it were to be moving.

scottthewaterwarrior This generation accord was very well built. The generation after seemed like a downgrade.

@@Pube83 what? The 8th gen accord was the best accord

If the accord was actually moving in this video, it would be a different story. Would be nothing to praise.

@@gabesmath105 A head on with two vehicles both traveling 65 MPH isn't going to end will for just about any vehicle.

@@scottthewaterwarrior except volvo/saab/bmw

Dude, what’s most important in these crashes is how well the cabin holds up and accord cabin held up pretty well

@@jogmas12 Did you not see just how much the accord's dash and steering column moved inwards? That driver would have nothing left below the knees and what would have been left of the legs would have been surgically removed. Might be that I have a different standard but I consider the cabin to include the firewall and everything rearward. I don't care if the centre console stays put if my ankles are jammed up into my hips. Not saying it didn't hold up well just not anywhere near as well as what I would accept.

@@Enjoymentboy the dummy was not crushed, there was room to spare. No jaws of life required!!

@@jogmas12 All I can tell you is that I am 6'5" and if I had been in that accord I would be leaving 5'2".

@@Enjoymentboy well, see your just basing your argument on personal opinion. You need to look at the data on this crash test. That’s why they have all those wires attached to the cars and dummies. You can’t go on casual observation.

2002 was the first year for that design.

@@CarPro1993 Just did a little research. News to me. I guess Dodge did the same with their 1500s that GM did. Released the halfton new bodystyle before the 2500 and 3500 models. I'm only familiar with the HD pickups. Ya learn something every day