2012 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 vs. 2012 Ford F-250 Super Duty, 2012 Ram 2500 - CAR and DRIVER 

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@@cz2563 Yeah it did. Can’t believe it’s been 11 years since the 6.7 PS came out… has turned out to be a very reliable engine indeed. Who woulda thought?!?

I'm looking at replacing my truck for a F250. What year is yours and how much care did you gotta put in it to hit those miles?

Ford makes a hell of a Diesel...but their 5.4s were simply weak. I owned 2 Fords. 1 with a 351w...Awesome bulletproof and the 5.4 was a problematic child with coil pack and spark plug issues.

baconbob if you get a f250 op for either the 7.3 powerstroke or the 6.7

Earl Keen your absolutely right

Earl Keen my 97 GMC sierra has 315,000 miles and still runs hard!

JablesOutdoors thats a retarded thing to say.. duramx all the way

Elm Ford: Strongest Chassis Chevy: Strongest transmission Dodge: Strongest engine

Greyson Wayne well if the only thing ford has going for it is the chassis, why is it best selling?? And i dont like fords

Elm No, that’s his opinion. You also have yours. When words like that fall out of your ass, it says more about you than the person you’re trying to insult.

Allison is electronic garbage

honda has the ridgeline. Nissan has the frontier and Titan

Eric Carriere nissan is getting the cummins diesel soon. Going to be tough to beat id say.

I got a F450 King Ranch DRW and it's a bad motor scooter. Wouldn't trade it for anything. FORD BABY!!!

I was thinking the same thing.

idk

The Chevy is only 330LBS Lighter than the Ford not a 1,000, the video gave us the numbers all we had to do was the math. And even though Chevy and GMC are the same thing, theres no such thing as a Denali for Chevy. The Denali only exists in the GMC brand.

The LTZ was the top trim in 2012. DENALI BELONGS TO GMC!

Yeah, they needed to put a GMC up there. General Motors runs their company different, they have different name brands for different products that they make. For example if you want pure luxury you get a Caddy, if you want a Luxury work truck / SUV you get GMC, If you want a nice but simple of any of the 3, be it a car, truck, Suv, then you get a Chevy. But for like Ford you can get just whatever package you want and it still has a ford logo on it. It's just General Motors compartmentalizes their packages into different name brands.

Billy Casey durcrap

duraslow

350K and still going. I can't complain...

Update I’m bout to buy a 2012 162k miles for 25k but I’ don’t know had the ford and didn’t like 6.0

Huh someone who isn't like dodge ford Chevy suck goof bad horrible week stupid ugly slow stiff big small etc lol

Good

Jaja damnit get your chevy then...

That seems in line with the golden rule for big diesel pickups: -If you want a truck that rides like a car and don’t plan to use it as a serious work vehicle, get a Chevy. -If you want a truck that’s a little more capable that does both real work and recreation, and don’t mind a slightly tougher ride, get a Ford. -If you want a truck that can carry two pallets of bricks in the bed and don’t mind a rough ride when it’s empty, get a Dodge.

Yeah no kidding. No way he would have lost after being that far ahead.

I know right.

Zack Zander i think somebody is mad. the chevy has taller gears. less takeoff speed higher top end. happens all the time

No because my friends 2013 f-250 platinum raced my friends 2013 chevy silverado 2500hd with campers that were both 10,000lbs and the super duty won no problem so super duty hands down.

we all witnessed our own expirience i guess, my duramax has beat every powerstroke its ever lined up with

+Afro Man If you can't remove a plastic cover you got no business turning a wrench.

Steve weerly Your kidding right

yeah they are

+Jude Greco I own an F250 xlt 4x4, but components in the engine cost too much to fix in so little time of owning the truck. Like the spark plugs break off... $2,500 fix. The knocking noise because at 60,000 miles or so the phasers start knocking. Another $2,500 plus job... I'm going with Chevy on my next purchase, and I will be warning my friends about the problems. Ford seems to deny any issues, but paid out millions in suit. They only want to pay me $1,200 for a $2,500 service job to remove the heads to get to spark plugs. If it would have went to a dealer it would have costed $4,000 plus. Ford get your shit together you lost one customer...

+Scales Jutice they dont need you

I wish they did...

High Country didn't come out till 2014, or 2015 for the HDs.

+Adam LeBlanc And that's the kind of data that never lies. As a mechanic I pay attention to that stuff as well. Another reason Ill never own a minivan and chrysler ones in particular. lol Those transmissions are a joke.

+Austin Ferguson buthurt ford fanboy

The humvees GM made fucking suck and are dogs. 7 tons outrun them and are twice the vehicle.

Joshua Randall​ Haha that's a first, your special...

No I just know from experience, having served for 4 years lol

Joshua Randall​ If the military decides to reissue the Hummer it will have a Duramax, the most agile of the three HD trucks of course...

Joshua Randall Sonds like 7-tons of B.S. to me!

Give him a ford he will never walk a day give him a Chevy he walks for the rest of his life

Hunter Cline So hilarious 🤦‍♂️

Your a lucky man, I'm looking for a truck like that.

+bill thompson That is a ridiculous amount of money. For that Ill keep all my 90's chev vans truck and suburbans. I can buy a lot of gas and diesel for 60k

Duramax and Alison lasts the longest, the cummins is good but once you get Banks kits on them, they all make around the same hp and torque, the Alison lasts the longest of all the transmissions.

No doubt the cummins is a great engine however I feel like ram trucks are not well put together and without the cummins they wouldn't have anything

GM doesn't warranty their frames cause they very tough and strong and durable.

+George GMC Sierra Denali They don't warranty their frames because GM KNOWS that's the weakest part of their trucks,frames are suppose to flex,GM's don't,they just break and that's it.They are being SUED over this issue too,further proving GM FAILS at standing behind their JUNK.FORD WINS AGAIN...40 YEARS STRAIGHT!.

+George GMC Sierra Denali This comparison sucks,the Ford weighs well over 1,000 pounds more(dry weight)over the Dodge and nearly 2,000 pounds more then the light duty GM trucks.These types of trucks are not engineered for speed,its about being able to handle dead-weight well and to be able to pull well.Ford WINS AGAIN!.

4 gauge Fuck Ford aka Found On Roadside Dead

+George GMC Sierra Denali G-M-C...G-arbage, M-ade,in China(parts are imported from China on these G-generically-M-made-by-C-Chrysler trucks)Ford imports parts from Germany(Siemens automotive)for there trucks(90 percent of Ford trucks are American made) Ford also WARRANTIES THEIR FRAMES(also made in America) The BEST NEVER REST!!. Oh,I almost forgot...Chevorlet is code for SHOVE-OR-LAY...Read in between the lines BEFORE YOU BUY.

Nope that v8 is junk inline six for power all day long. Longer stroke is the deciding factor !

frankbradshaw1770 It didn't seem to power past the junk v8 here ;)

watch?v=5CuvLwS8VXw watch this then!

You don't know anything bud. Ifs shit

+Big Buck Hunters Most sales doesn't mean much when it's just a bargain truck. It's like saying walmart TP is best because they have the best sales.

im sorry power and most sales maybe but dependability? if something has to be said ford hasnt been able to find its base engine since the 7.3l in about a decade and a half, ford has gone thru 4 different engines because each has been a slight problem while cummins has only had 2 engines and chevy 1 since 2001(could argue 2 if you want to say the 2000 diesel)

Zack Attack Actually it depends on the package you get. On the Ford for example it had a King Ranch package that one would pay more to have a little more luxury. Funny how you also say Ford and Dodge focus more on the interior, that is after all where you will be spending all your time in the vehicles, on top of that, when someone spends over 50k on a truck, I would hope its nice inside.

Zack Attack Chevy is so far behind them they can’t focus on the little shit.

Hell yea

+BlUBBA MUBBA I own an F250 xlt 4x4, but components in the engine cost too much to fix in so little time of owning the truck. Like the spark plugs break off... $2,500 fix. The knocking noise because at 60,000 miles or so the phasers start knocking. Another $2,500 plus job... I'm going with Chevy on my next purchase, and I will be warning my friends about the problems. Ford seems to deny any issues, but paid out millions in suit. They only want to pay me $1,200 for a $2,500 service job to remove the heads to get to spark plugs. If it would have went to a dealer it would have costed $4,000 plus. Ford get your shit together you lost one customer...

+Scales Jutice You think posting this over and over on multiple videos is going to mean anything?

+Austin Ferguson So are you

+Devon Waldrop All the way to the poorhouse! But what a beautiful truck.

FOOOOOORDDDDDD

That's why they have always been second in sales lol. From companies to private purchases they have been second. That my friend is far from the king of the hill.

The2001cobra look at other industry Acer sells the most computer but they are pieces of crap. Apple makes the best computer but do not sell the most.

Clark Petrick Apple is far from the best computer. And your analogy in comparing a windows based PC to a Apple product is like comparing a Honda ridgeline too a F250 two completely different things built for two different purposes. Now you buy a medium duty truck in which the big three variants are direct competitors trades along with residential consumers buy Fords and they do so for a reason (reliability) even though 9 times outta 10 the Ford costs more which go figure.

As for comparing mac vs windows it's not hard especially considering gm does quite few things differently than ford. 1 a fully independent front suspension ford uses a solid front axle the weight capacity of these axles are almost identical withing 50 pounds 9350 for ford 9300 for gm. 2nd gm has a auto locking rear differential ford has a manual locking rear diff. Once you need to bad your stuck or you have already slipped. If you want even the engines ford is using superchargers that are constantly having issues on the Ecco boost line. Now they are added a 2.7 Ecco boost and dropping the 6.2L. Last time I checked I wanted to power to do things with a truck that's why I have a truck. So no I don't think it's that hard to compare the two. If you really want to go windows to windows. Then gm is asus the best built computers period. Acer is ford yes they sell the most but go to them with an issue and they tell you to pound sand.

Clark Petrick First off Ford has far better customer satisfaction than GM. Lawsuits lead to recalls and recalls are evidence of poor satisfaction! Recalls are implemented because customers sue the company ( which lead to a class action) then the supreme court gets involved to protect customers from poor problem resolutions like GM and Toyota have. GM is recalling an endless amount right now by the time its over with itll be 10+mil in one shot. Secondly Ford uses turbochargers on the ecoboost motors not superchargers. This simply shows how ahead Ford is of GM in the engine department. BMW, Volvo and Ford along with others are ahead of the game as this is the way the US market is going smaller turboed engines. Hell GM has to rely on Daewoo for its turbo motors. Ford isn't having constant issues with the ecoboosts they have them in everything from a 1.0L i3 in the fiesta to the 3.5L in the expedition. You want engine problems look no further than yours truly the 5.3L or for that matter any vortec motor. Thirdly, it really is hard to compare the two because that little 2.7L will more than likely make 320 hp and 370 tq in which all the tq will come in under 2500 rpm. While the next 3.5L eco will now make 380hp and 460 tq with the same low diesel tq curve. Ford will also still use the 5.0l with revised hp and an all new NA 3.5L v-6 with all the goodies. Gm has what a 4.3 with 285 hp and 305 tq at 3900 rpm a 5.3l with 355 hp and 383 tq at 4100 rpm and a 6.2l with 420hp and 460 tq at 4100 rpm. Yes your right Fords little turbo powered motors are an unfair comparison in GM's high RPM tq building v-8's. That 3.5L eco will pull better than the Ford 6.2L or GM 6.2l for 1 simple fact all 460 tq is available at 2500 rpm not 4100 rpm like the NA 6.2Ls. Hell would I like a twin turbo 6.2L hell yeah it would make 800tq at 2500 rpm but it wouldn't be fuel efficient. Ford instead just dropped 700lbs off the new all aluminum f150 those little motors are going to get 22+ city and nearly 30 highway now all with diesel tq with cheaper gas pricing. Fourthly, Ill take a solid axle on a HD series truck any day. If I wanted a car like ride Id buy the 7 lug f150. A solid axle is far more reliable and cost affective on a service vehicle than independent suspension. Front axle weight max on a 3500 chevy is 5200lbs while the Ford 350 is 5940lbs that 740lbs difference is huge for front mount applications. You ever hear of fords TSC with e-lockers its the same thing as auto engaging slip. Also, Ford still puts mechanical hub locks upfront GM well electronics go out and your shit outta luck. On the Ford something fails you can always get out and lock them. Finally, GM is what Ford was back in mid 2000's they are that far behind. They are just starting to bring in a transit connect competitor. They have no answer for the new transit or fords 5cyl powerstroke. GM is still using archaic pushrod motors and just starting to adopt the OHC design where Ford went overhead back in 95. Ford has more DI and VV and turbo motors in production than gm is developing. GM has these recalls that are tarnishing there image just as the publics forgotten about the bail out money. GM is in a very bad spot right now and the light is just getting smaller in the tunnel.

I take that back, I really don't know the best truck anymore. For looks I would take Dodge, but for performance I would debate between Chevy and Ford. I don't like GM, so I will most likely side with ford.

Taren Williams Yeah ford is known for that lol, but they do make good trucks though.

I can't imagine why anyone would drive a Dodge. Don't you get tired of filling it up? Dodges all get horrible gas mileage. Switching from the piece-of-shit-gas-sucking-lemon Dodge I had to a Chevy was the best thing that I ever did.

Wade French Cummins isn't bad my friend, I have respect for all three trucks because they are all really good at different things.

EpicNEd Amen to the cummins out lasting them ALLLLL sure its the puniest in this test. They needed a H O version from the 3500 series. I dont guess it available on 2500 I am not sure. I do know this I have a 2010 F350 in the driveway with 90k and just had a new motor put in by Ford at 83k. Free of course thanks to the powertrain warranty. I change the oil every 3-5k depending on the amount of freeway driving. as far as reliability goes....cummins 1st duramax 2nd (we have an 03 with 250k on it and has had only a few repairs) and the powerstroke dead asss last!

Isuzu power Jack, all the way back to Japan.

+Jake Ryan Hell yea!

+Austin Ferguson hell yea lets go

+Austin Ferguson bout to get me a 6.0

jonathan ingerson True

Austin Ferguson well if course it would it's got a bigger motor. If your truck went against a Chevy durmax it would eat your truck like a snack

+Raymond Sweeney I own an F250 xlt 4x4, but components in the engine cost too much to fix in so little time of owning the truck. Like the spark plugs break off... $2,500 fix. The knocking noise because at 60,000 miles or so the phasers start knocking. Another $2,500 plus job... I'm going with Chevy on my next purchase, and I will be warning my friends about the problems. Ford seems to deny any issues, but paid out millions in suit. They only want to pay me $1,200 for a $2,500 service job to remove the heads to get to spark plugs. If it would have went to a dealer it would have costed $4,000 plus. Ford get your shit together you lost one customer...

+Efren Martinez The reality here is that Ford fans are incredibly immature and illogical. You could be at the races all year with dodge winning every race and they would still say Ford was better. They are as bad as gun controlling liberals with their illogical bent. In this case the Chevy truck just flat won out as a work vehicle and they didn't even get into the hideous bed flex that Fords have. I saw one test where ford actually damaged itself from bed flex. I grew up with Fords as well. My family always drove Ford stuff because it was cheap. No other reason. Cheap to buy, cheap to fix, and for the most part got the job done. True we did do a lot of fixing but that's the territory with older vehicles.

Yeah I guess everyone has their opinions and looks on things my friend. I respect the other named brand of trucks, It doesn't mean I won't drive a Chevrolet or a dodge, I'll take a corvette over a mustang Any day. Yes ford might have a reputation of being cheaper since it was the first one to mass produce but it doesn't mean ford is cheap . It's just the way one sees things, you know. You can talk down all you want on ford or dodge for it being not reliable and "cheap" the ? Is did you take care of it did you maintain it? Ex) Its just like an ak 47 vs. an ar 15 they are both good rifles, many people will pick up the ak right of the bat because they heard that those weapons can withstand alot, and is true but to a certain point, ar 15s in the other hand get a bad look at and people think they are cheaper and jam alot, so again the question is did you maintain it? Yet I don't see how our government still uses this rifle for combat,lol. But back to the topic, Man I can't remember the Last time a 1500 selling more. Over a f150 or it being America's #1 selling truck for the past 30 years or so. I don't know man numbers show it. Just look at the ford f150 raptor it's first release date was 2010 the first of the three companies to offer an off road rtg package. Chevrolet just came up with a mimic of the raptor called the reaper. Lol I have to say it sucked! And I'll tell you cause I drove one. Ford is downsizing their engines in their light duty trucks, just wait and dodge an chevy are going to start doing the same thing.

Efren Martinez I see your point but those of us that are mechanics define cheap both ways based on what we see in our shops a lot and base what we drive on our shop experiences also. Its more than just cost of course. It is also what is hard or easy to work on when you have to work on it.

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+Efren Martinez I own an F250 xlt 4x4, but components in the engine cost too much to fix in so little time of owning the truck. Like the spark plugs break off... $2,500 fix. The knocking noise because at 60,000 miles or so the phasers start knocking. Another $2,500 plus job... I'm going with Chevy on my next purchase, and I will be warning my friends about the problems. Ford seems to deny any issues, but paid out millions in suit. They only want to pay me $1,200 for a $2,500 service job to remove the heads to get to spark plugs. If it would have went to a dealer it would have costed $4,000 plus. Ford get your shit together you lost one customer...

Are you kidding? We had 2 2500s and they were terds bought a 2013 f250 it out pulls and performs both the 2500s and its higher quality

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Not trying to bash on the ford but who wants a quiet diesel? and Who wants a loud annoying diesel? Chevy and Dodge have made a nice unique sound both different sounds but sounds nice every Power stroke that i heard on the road i had to put my windows up and put some music on so i can drive in peace.

I'm sorry for all the loud annoying sounds that all us Powerstroke diesel drivers make. They are a little loud on the outside but pretty quiet on the inside.

Johnny Barrett What so you have to have your windows up to have a decent ride?

+Zach Deaton You mean topped out because its gearing was so low. :)

Ha not hardly

Zach Deaton Just saying, not everything is a conspiracy. :)

Na Josh

***** You are? I'd have thought something else. Oh well. lol

+Jesse Hart good luck with that.