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2013-2017 Honda Accord 2.4L Cold Start Rattle And Cam Chain Tensioner Repair.

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2013-2017 Honda Accord L4 All, 2015-2017 Honda CR-V All, Cam Chain Tensioner repair!! Earth Dreams engine, Honda Bulletin: TSB 19-019
Honda TSB 19-019
2013-2014 is listed in the TSB 14-030
Make: Honda
Number: 19-019
Date: 2/21/2019
Title: Knocking or Clicking From Engine During Cold Startup
Models:
2014-2017 Accord EX
2014-2017 Accord EX-L
2014-2015 Accord Hybrid
2017 Accord Hybrid
2014-2015 Accord Hybrid EX-L
2017 Accord Hybrid EX-L
2014-2015 Accord Hybrid Touring
2017 Accord Hybrid Touring
2014-2017 Accord LX
2014-2017 Accord LX-S
2014 Accord Plug-In
2014-2017 Accord Sport
2017 Accord Sport Special Edition
2014-2017 Accord Touring
Summary:
There is a knocking or clicking from the engine during cold startup. The check valve in the cam chain tensioner is worn, allowing oil pressure to leak internally and the cam chain to lose tension after engine is turned off. Replace the cam chain auto-tensioner.

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@keithiedogshit66 Год назад

Update 7/2/2023: It has been 2 months and I drive my car daily. I start it at the least 10-15 times in a day give or take. It starts fresh every time and still no grind! No extra adjustment like other videos have stated and it is clearly not necessary.

@rafaelparedes2353 Месяц назад

I have heard of this adjustment is there anyway you can point me to the video stating this adjustment, i have replaced my tensioner and rattle cam back. Please and thank you!

@ocean694 Месяц назад

Excellent video ! Thanks !! There are quite a number of 2013-17 CRVs and Accords in the parking lot of my office building. It seems that all of them have this noise during startup after work..... I guess this problem is quite common, and I am surprised that Honda didn't initiate a general recall.

@keithiedogshit66 6 месяцев назад

Update for all .. still going strong! No grinds or hard starts!

@fridder. 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the updates

@apollomedia7210 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the updates man.

@NHPhamousPolo 4 месяца назад

Wow nice, how to I know if my grind is due to bad cam tensioner or bad actuator?

@apollomedia7210 4 месяца назад

@@NHPhamousPolo for 9th gen accord, it is known to be tensioner. For 8th gen it is actuator. It is just known and common.

@faustovillanueva3527 Месяц назад

Great video thank you

@keithiedogshit66 Месяц назад

Thank you for watching and hope it helped.

@azpcox Год назад

Getting the grind myself at startup. I’ve been reading/watching and will probably extend my tensioner by one click before I put it in. Looking forward to seeing how long your new one lasts before it grinds again.

@keithiedogshit66 Год назад

I have seen those videos also where they tell you to add a tooth, the crazy part is Honda TSB does not state to do it and if the locking mechanism is in working condition and not sheared off, it shouldn't cause the same issue. I am going to be honest and say that I personally would not for the simple fact of having experience with K20 and K24 engines, extending one tooth on the tensioner can put more strain on your chain that will in time wear out the chain guides a lot quicker to the point you will have to change them and other timing components. This is a far more taxing job than just pulling off a cover. A lot of times depending on the positioning of the engine you have to pull the motor to do so. This will require a bunch of labor time or a heavy pocket unless you can do it yourself. If you decide to extend it a tooth keep me posted. I will do the same.

@jeffreyellin9903 Год назад

Any update?

@keithiedogshit66 Год назад

@@jeffreyellin9903 I have had absolutely no issues and it is running flawlessly. just like when I first purchased my car new.

@trueblood9416 7 месяцев назад

Do you have to change the timing chain or you just need to change the tensioner?

@keithiedogshit66 7 месяцев назад

No, you just need to change the tensioner unless you see or hear damage. The chain will make the tensioner click as usual. The tensioner will have enough tension to keep the chain tight. If you hear noise on your top end or it continues to make the grind, then the gear may need to be changed as well.

@herminiobonilla2107 3 месяца назад

Grind is on a super cold start once in the morning I never hear it again

@keithiedogshit66 3 месяца назад

That is how it starts. If you listen on the passenger side and you hear a ticking while the engine is running behind the tire thisnis the sign that the tooth is sheared off and your tensioner needs to be replaced. It will be pretty loud. The tensioner is supposed to click but not in a constant faction and really loud. It will sound like a chain hitting a cover. Instead of the click locking the chain in place.

@lazyrider6918 Месяц назад

@@keithiedogshit66 I don't hear any noise other than occasional cold start up. If I don't hear the noise you are describing, do I need to replace now or can it wait until I hear noise consistently after start up??

@carlwinslow4175 2 месяца назад

Got 175K on my 14 sports and it is time for me too. What mileage does the timing chain need to be replaced do you know?

@keithiedogshit66 2 месяца назад

Honda recommendeds water pump, timing belt or chain and tensioner is normally about 7 years or 60-100K miles. Or as needed if there is no noise or signs of issues.

@carlwinslow4175 2 месяца назад

@@keithiedogshit66 I Googled it and we may not need to change it as it is a metal Timing chain on our Accords so long as the car is maintained with regular oil changes.

@keithiedogshit66 2 месяца назад

@@carlwinslow4175normally you should not have to change it unless it is causing issues. Honda always lists a maintenance minder for all their makes and models. We obviously don't follow them all the time. Mechanics know better than a money making gimmick. Use your judgement. It follows the rule of thumb... if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Ig you get a cold start grind and hear the ticking near your passenger side front tire then it is time.

@tevinmars1801 4 месяца назад

Where you at brodie, I need done now mine is at 148k miles I’m tired of hearing that bullshit when I start my baby up

@davidkuzmanov3488 2 месяца назад

Great video. Can you tell me , what kind bigger battery you use and brand . Or part number. Thanks

@keithiedogshit66 2 месяца назад

Thank you. 24F battery is the upgrade. It is used in the 9th gen accord coupe V6. You will need the battery box and the tie down. Factory Honda box and tie down is perfect and fits as it should. You don't have to change it but it will fit better with it. To be honest Everstart has more power than the Diehard. I honestly would also stay away from Optima.

@imran4750 6 месяцев назад

Hey man what sizes are all the bolts, will a torque wrench and ratchet wrench do the job fine?

@keithiedogshit66 6 месяцев назад

They are 6x14 and 6x18 should all be 10mm bolt head size. You can use a rachet or a torque wrench. A rachet will do just fine. Don't over tighten the bolts.

@robertalicea5585 11 месяцев назад

Will that fix the cold start noise on a 12 crv or is the vtc actuator

@keithiedogshit66 11 месяцев назад

On the 12 more common was the VTC actuator. Tensioner are cheaper and a start but everything I have seen the actuator was the issue. Look up Honda service bulletin 09-010 for 07-12 CRV All.

@Dirtyimprezawrx 4 месяца назад

Do you drain the engine oil first or replace the tensioner without having to drain the motor?

@keithiedogshit66 4 месяца назад

You do not have to drain the oil. It would not be a bad idea though once complete, just to make sure there is no shavings or the broken tab from the tensioner is in your oil pan.

@aaroncalderon5513 Год назад

Hey I had this issue and never fixed it. Now I hear a knocking. What do you think is the best thing I should do

@keithiedogshit66 Год назад

Did you resolve the issue? I would recommend having a diagnostic done to confirm the issue. Knocking in the bottom end or top end?

@aaroncalderon5513 Год назад

@@keithiedogshit66 it was 2 things actually. The chain tensioner & the pulley tensioner 😅

@NHPhamousPolo 11 месяцев назад

@@aaroncalderon5513did repair make the knocking stop?

@erwinwayne3129 7 месяцев назад

Yo I have this same thing happening to mine, how much is the repair cost?

@aaroncalderon5513 7 месяцев назад

@@erwinwayne3129 hey I did it myself at it was cheap.

@8000b 7 месяцев назад

it says in the TSB to turn the crank 90 degrees clockwise after u put the pin in the old tensioner. is this necessary seems like u and another skipped that step im confused.

@keithiedogshit66 6 месяцев назад

The counter clockwise and clockwise motion is only to depress the tensioner to take tension off and insert the pin. If the tensioner tooth is sheered off the counter clockwise motion will line up the pin holes while compressing the tensioner. The clockwise motion allows the chain to hang freely with tension above on the cam gears while you unbolt the tensioner. Be careful not to drop the bolts in your cover.

@McDzy 11 месяцев назад

what does it do if you dont get this issue fix?

@keithiedogshit66 10 месяцев назад

Over time it can cause damage to your cam gears and the plastic guides as well as throw off your timing.

@nickm50 8 месяцев назад

I just replaced mine on my Acura TSX and this morning I got the grinding noise again. I followed all the instructions so idk what is wrong now

@spring-start 8 месяцев назад

You'll always get a grind the first start after replacing the TCT. It's best to replace the TCT and the VTC actuator locking pin spring for long term results on these Earth Dream engines with the 5A2 VTC Actuator.

@nickm50 8 месяцев назад

@@spring-start I’ll try the vtc actuator. I’m aware that the first start will have it again but it did it the following morning cold start, REALLY loudly. That’s what had me concerned

@spring-start 8 месяцев назад

@@nickm50 Sounds good. The R44 R5A 5A2 kit is 35 with the access bit.

@VladimirVShin День назад

Hi @nickm50, what year of your TSX? I have TSX 2018 and just got an engine rattle noise and I wonder if it's tensioner or VTC actuator that needs to be replaced. Thank you.

@nickm50 День назад

@@VladimirVShin 2011

@temoari Год назад

Hello mate will that loosen the timing chain??

@keithiedogshit66 Год назад

At the time you remove the damaged tensioner, the chain will get loose but it will stay on the cam gears and the oil pump gear. This will not cause it to jump timing. Once you replace the tensioner and pull the pin it will click back in place and put the proper amount of tension back on the chain.

@temoari Год назад

@@keithiedogshit66 thxs for the information. Much appreciated mate cheers

@paulleblanc3301 6 месяцев назад

@keithiedogshit do you know of the 2013 accord 2.4l lx has the filter on or do I have to buy the tensioner with the new filter TIA

@keithiedogshit66 6 месяцев назад

The screen filter is separate. If yours is clean and free of debris, just wipe it down or clean with some brake cleaner and reuse it. You will be good to go.

@paulleblanc3301 6 месяцев назад

@@keithiedogshit66 than you

@keithiedogshit66 6 месяцев назад

It should have the filter on the tensioner.

@paulleblanc3301 6 месяцев назад

@keithiedogshit66 it didn't but the one I bought had the filter replaced it doing going

@keithiedogshit66 6 месяцев назад

@@paulleblanc3301good deal. I glad it is all working.

@9thgensi227 5 месяцев назад

It’s the ecu over advancing timing when cold

@WathchinWithTheBoys 4 месяца назад

The stock battery is a joke! I couldn't believe they put what looks like a motorcycle battery in these.

@josephphillips865 Месяц назад

We are lucky with these Accords. Easy upgrade. Looks at the Civic's though, no room to upgrade.

@valdo2431 11 месяцев назад

I replaced mine and still have grind.

@keithiedogshit66 11 месяцев назад

If you still have the grind I would check for codes and the VTC actuator. At times the cam chain guides wear and the chain tends to lift off the gear slightly. I would recommend that you pull your valve cover off if you are a DIYer and check slack on your timing chain and see if your guides are worn or broken. Also I honestly would check the tensioner and make sure that on start up you didn't sheer the teeth again causing the same problem. I would start there first before pulling the cover off. Did it grind when you first started your car after the fix? Or gradually came back over time?

@McDzy 10 месяцев назад

what year is yours? valdo

@spring-start 10 месяцев назад

Try replacing the vtc actuator spring

@Kile345 Год назад

I changed the tensioner on my accord 2008 2.4 lt and my car didn’t start

@keithiedogshit66 Год назад

My video is for the 2013-2017, but if you changed the tensioner, the 2008 has to be in top dead center from what I am aware of. I would not attempt to start the vehicle again until you fix it. You will nees to take the valve cover off and rotate your crank to line up the timing marks. Make sure the timing Mark's on the crankshaft pulley also line up below. There will be markings on the pulley to line up with the arrow on the block. Then replace the tensioner and start the car once you put all the covers back on. There is a thread on the accord forum that advises the bulletin also. www.driveaccord.net/threads/2008-honda-accord-k24-timing-tensioner-replacement-for-cold-start-rattle.566392/

@Kile345 Год назад

@@keithiedogshit66 thanks

@white9th193 Год назад

Did you fix your car mate ?

@Kile345 Год назад

@@white9th193 yes sir ! I took the valve and timing chain covers off , and then I line up the all the timing marks I put the covers and everything back and my car is working like brand new car again 😅