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2013 Isaac Asimov Memorial Debate: The Existence of Nothing 

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The concept of nothing is as old as zero itself. How do we grapple with the concept of nothing? From the best laboratory vacuums on Earth to the vacuum of space to what lies beyond, the idea of nothing continues to intrigue professionals and the public alike.
Join moderator and Hayden Planetarium Director Neil deGrasse Tyson as he leads a spirited discussion with a group of physicists, philosophers and journalists about the existence of nothing. The event, which was streamed live to the web, took place at the American Museum of Natural History on March 20, 2013.
PANELISTS:
J. Richard Gott, professor of astrophysical sciences, Princeton University, and author of Sizing Up the Universe: The Cosmos in Perspective
Jim Holt, science journalist and author of Why Does the World Exist? An Existential Detective Story
Lawrence Krauss, professor of physics, Arizona State University and author of A Universe from Nothing: Why There is Something Rather Than Nothing
Charles Seife, professor of journalism, New York University, and author of Zero: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea
Eve Silverstein, professor of physics, Stanford University, and co-editor of Strings, Branes and Gravity
The late Dr. Isaac Asimov, one of the most prolific and influential authors of our time, was a dear friend and supporter of the American Museum of Natural History. In his memory, the Hayden Planetarium is honored to host the annual Isaac Asimov Memorial Debate - generously endowed by relatives, friends, and admirers of Isaac Asimov and his work - bringing the finest minds in the world to the Museum each year to debate pressing questions on the frontier of scientific discovery. Proceeds from ticket sales of the Isaac Asimov Memorial Debates benefit the scientific and educational programs of the Hayden Planetarium.
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@superpanda9810
@superpanda9810 7 лет назад
just spent 2 hours watching a group of physicists argue about the definition of Nothing. 10/10 would watch again.
@TshaajThomas
@TshaajThomas 2 года назад
All are experts for nothing. WTF.
@Dranok1
@Dranok1 2 года назад
I know a little about a great many things, a great deal about very few things, everything about nothing, and nothing about everything else.
@simesaid
@simesaid 2 года назад
@@Dranok1 I know a little about a great many things; and a lot about a very few things; but I know absolutely nothing about nothing... ...for, by definition, there _is nothing to know._
@simesaid
@simesaid 2 года назад
@@TshaajThomas I think you meant: What The Nothing?
@ogstevothestoryteller
@ogstevothestoryteller 2 года назад
@@Dranok1 mm m ok &800).. hours izgfuzfsuxigipig M. M. Mm. M
@mr.personality7762
@mr.personality7762 8 лет назад
I watched all of this for nothing.
@marcosbenjaminsastre2668
@marcosbenjaminsastre2668 8 лет назад
Glad you got the answer :)
@-_Nuke_-
@-_Nuke_- 7 лет назад
xD
@Devilofdoom
@Devilofdoom 7 лет назад
Nothing has the property of being nothing. So nothing is something. 0 is 1. Therefore every binary code must exist.
@Ron-fw6bm
@Ron-fw6bm 7 лет назад
I know people that go around prefacing a lot of things with the words..."Not for nothing". I should force them to watch this ten times.
@stefantherainbowphoenix
@stefantherainbowphoenix 6 лет назад
Devilofdoom In a binary code 0 is equivalent to off/no/false and 1 is equivalent to on/yes/true so it's false that 0 is 1.
@odinsmeadhorn196
@odinsmeadhorn196 4 года назад
The discussion of 'nothing,' is really a discussion of how impossible it is to escape an idea once birthed.
@shannononeill4828
@shannononeill4828 Год назад
7h7u77
@Fallen-Saint
@Fallen-Saint 5 месяцев назад
Well.. They do say stupidity is contagious
@VeN0m88
@VeN0m88 7 лет назад
I read alot of comments knocking how obnoxious Tyson was in this video, But in his defense he always does his best to keep everyone in the loop who may not pick up on something or whom needs a guide. Yes for more advanced minds it can ne annoying but educating amateurs about science does alot more for science. Tyson is always teaching that's makes him unique and sympathetic towards all listeners for the better of science moving foward.
@hugofrederico7054
@hugofrederico7054 11 месяцев назад
I think his a great host tbh at least he knows deply about what is debating about versus 90% of podcasts hosts nowadays...
@BlueOceanBelow
@BlueOceanBelow 10 лет назад
Thank you for posting these. I was wondering though if the 2001-2010 debates were taped as well, and if they will ever be available to view?
@julianrivas3831
@julianrivas3831 2 года назад
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@julianrivas3831
@julianrivas3831 2 года назад
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@卞甄甲
@卞甄甲 3 года назад
You are able to describe "nothing" and here is my description: Nothing is the only thing whose only property is that it does not have another property. With this description, it should not be hard to determine if something is nothing. As to how the universe came into being, and whether it came from nothing, that is a different question.
@Folsomdsf2
@Folsomdsf2 2 года назад
This is a great way to describe it. The thing is, once you are able to attribute a property to it, it never WAS nothing, so it's easy to discount anything you find as 'not nothing' and be correct. Very good way to describe it.
@Bing35P
@Bing35P 7 лет назад
could we say that there's nothing in our mind and yet we get to have thoughts out of nothing?
@Yossarian.
@Yossarian. 2 года назад
It is said, that infinity is not just an unreachable quantity, It is also an entity that is by its very nature unattainable, no matter what happens or how long it takes. *Thus, it should not occur in the real physical universe, nor in any hypothetical multiverse.* Personally, I think that an objective state of nothing relative to our objective experience of a something, is as impossible as infinity. Thus, *it should not occur inside or even outside of this, our physical universe, nor any hypothetical multiverse*
@PeazChess
@PeazChess 2 месяца назад
Actually infinity does exist and can be reached. Infinity is a term to describe ridiculously large/small quantities. If you scale up the bases it can be achieved.
@Yossarian.
@Yossarian. 2 месяца назад
@@PeazChess Hilberts Grand Hotel would beg to differ.
@darkpoetry7771
@darkpoetry7771 8 лет назад
possibly the one event that I find myself applauding in the privacy of my own home.
@edga69
@edga69 3 года назад
43:17 "It's not heavy, they're my universes." lol that deserved a bigger laugh. (He's not heavy, he's my brother.) A few interesting points to think about, but not a satisfying talk. The philosophical question is the interesting one. Krauss should have expanded on why it is necessarily a physical question.
@TheLivingfreekshow
@TheLivingfreekshow 8 лет назад
This channel should have WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than 64k subscribers. LEARN SOMETHING, PEOPLE!!!!!
@EliezerPennywhistler
@EliezerPennywhistler 8 лет назад
+TheLivingfreekshow No one is as good as you, son.
@rogerbissoon5609
@rogerbissoon5609 8 лет назад
It's unfortunate the cats get more views
@lewiszim
@lewiszim 8 лет назад
I learned about nothing
@shamwow70
@shamwow70 8 лет назад
lol
@cheblack677
@cheblack677 5 лет назад
I learned nothing
@marvelux
@marvelux 10 лет назад
My own personal experience of nothing was under the effect of general aenesthetics. Everything just went boom! to nothing in an instant and suddenly any concousness of time, space or whatever just ceased to be, until I woke up and then everythng came back into existence. To be aware of that gap in the perception of self was both reasuring and scary at the same time. Of course this is an account from the point of view of the observer. Where was my conciousness gone? To me it raised personal questions as if this concept of nothingness is what our destiny, then this moment of somethingness is quite more relevant. Sorry, I know this is far from being a scientific view of what nothing is. Just an account from a normal human being that slept.
@pariosd3
@pariosd3 Год назад
I understand. It is so easy to believe that we come from nothing and that we go into nothing if you think that when we sleep for most of our sleep we are not self aware at all. It is actually comforting to think that.
@johnkendal5562
@johnkendal5562 Год назад
now all you need to define is that Biblical chapter in Genesis !
@vincentkellner7232
@vincentkellner7232 Год назад
Ii7i8iiiii88😮😮9o9óo99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999😊⁹ ook ook i 1:53:59 nu 6h
@Tar-Von
@Tar-Von Год назад
An unpopular view, but it almost seems as if consciousness itself, as we define it, may be an operative function of cellular activity. Or at the very least neurological activity that's codependent, theoretically, on the body's anatomic structural integrity. --- Just a whimsical thought.
@Tar-Von
@Tar-Von Год назад
@hitogokochi Actually Hito, there is something _physical_ about literally everything you've said. -- I think what you were probably trying to hilight was the _interpretation_ of those senses. I never insinuated that consciousness was physical, I was saying how the experience could very well be a byproduct of multi-cellular activity working as one(body). -- Also, there is no unified theory on what consciousness even is. It's as unique as our genetics themselves(ancestral experience). -- And lo and behold, anything that has some merit of consciousness; ie life, is always accompanied by complex cellular activity. After years of pondering this -- including sharing a stance similar to yours at one point, this is probably not coincidental. The cellular relationship that makes up our anatomy.
@CapitalJ2
@CapitalJ2 11 лет назад
"It's a show about nothing" "nothing?" "nothing" "well it must be about something" "no, it's about nothing" Seinfeld, lol. I watched this whole thing and was interested in all of their opinions on what nothing is but if you just skip around, you hear the word "nothing" every time you skip almost, it's ridiculous how much time they spent arguing what nothing is, but I understand why
@kwetsbarevrijheid2720
@kwetsbarevrijheid2720 6 лет назад
@@CapitalJ2 He should have said "yes, it is about nothing" as nothing is the subject, the 'something' "
@rishinandan1197
@rishinandan1197 5 лет назад
Seinfeld is love
@alexanderkarl4025
@alexanderkarl4025 5 лет назад
Yeah I understand way too it's because they're a bunch of professional bullshitters hosted by the grandmaster bullshitter of all time douche bag and charlatan Tyson
@beavis4play
@beavis4play 4 года назад
​@@alexanderkarl4025 - man, what is your problem ? and what, in your mind, makes tyson a "douche bag" and "charlatan" ?
@Silanthi_Valamban
@Silanthi_Valamban 4 года назад
Like Salsa..
@picklesnorf101
@picklesnorf101 9 лет назад
Eve was literally the most brilliant person on the stage. Her description of the problem was incredible.
@WakeUpThisMorning_
@WakeUpThisMorning_ 9 лет назад
Agreed.
@beammeupscotty3074
@beammeupscotty3074 9 лет назад
I agree with you, The problem is they go so fast on their explanations and interpretations that they're extremely confusing to most people, Get it? Welcome to the circus publishing blend of religion, metaphysics, philosophy, and science,, all trying to make scientific sense out of nothing which is something. This is Infinite propoganda, and/or infinite confusion, and infinite money from all this mass confusion!!!!! ......+picklesnorf101
@beammeupscotty3074
@beammeupscotty3074 9 лет назад
She said that geometries like a simple energy line, or a sting basically become non geometric and non dimensional at a small enough size, so it's relationship to our reality and a zero geometric reality is entirely different that our finite perception of reality . Energy still exists there but in a different form because this form is non geometric and super syymetrically infinite, and this super syymetrically infinite system must always exist if any finite to infinite equation is to succeed rationally and explain the infinite.... That was your Mr. Spock quote for today
@HawkFest1
@HawkFest1 9 лет назад
CRAZY INSANE VIDEOS What's odd in this whole chit-chat about nothingness, is that they try to put the Universe at our level of comprehension, while also trying to be scientifically rational: it just can't happen without confusing contradictions. Simple: if we should consider very very small stuff as "nothing" so that we understand whatever, than why try to rationalize some constitutive nature of such nothingness? The fact of trying to insinuate nothingness while it's actually not true, that's what's utterly confusing, it doesn't help at all in understanding whatever they babble between each others. I prefer to try grasping the very small (or huge) or uncertain nature of things instead of this. BTW, that journalist is again trying to reinterpret the Bible scriptures so that it fits current science. It's ridiculous (now "nothing" = "chaos".. But what is chaos? Some level of misunderstanding? lol). If one wants to look at science seriously, he should get rid of the Bible while doing so. If believing in God only involves filling some intellectual/scientific gaps and nothing else, then such weak God would mean nothing, if not to be against human evolution since he would only thrive upon our ignorance and intellectual weaknesses.
@beammeupscotty3074
@beammeupscotty3074 9 лет назад
its is on the level of anyone's comprehension if the proper words are chosen to understand it in a physical sense without geometry. It is a piece of cake to understand it!!! Give me $500 and I'll send you my masterpiece paper on it, far better than richard gott and his time travel stunt, or krauss and his half baked explanations, or eve and her intellectual (I'm a genius and your not) showmanship, or Holt on his endless religious denials. NO GODS REQUIRED!!!! What a comedy of confusing errors life is for the fallen elites and their borg counterparts. Q from star trek must be eternally laughing his arse off.
@robopoet
@robopoet 9 лет назад
The question children ask relentlessly is 'Why?" Not "How?" I think that says a lot.
@HawkFest1
@HawkFest1 9 лет назад
Shaun Graham I lost you there, what does it says, could you pls expose your thought? There are also children asking "how" FYI. When a child deconstructs things, strokes petals before tearing them off, etc., he's not asking "why" but "how".
@robopoet
@robopoet 9 лет назад
HawkFest RoG Children are new to the experience of being alive and full of questions about existence. They are more apt to wonder 'why' things are than 'how' do things work. Evolution is extremely interesting but not as interesting as 'Why are we here?'.
@HawkFest1
@HawkFest1 9 лет назад
Shaun Graham that's a wishful thinking. The "why's" happen much later than the "how's". As having abstract ideas and thinking also comes later, that's another fact. In fact most of the time "why's" can be translated into "how's", advertisers don't show the reality don't forget this.. I won't repeat my example, read it again if you don't remember : what would you think of this? When you talk to a child about religion, you tell him/her about the How's (and magic) behind, not about the why's nor abstract philosophies : he/she will be interested by the how's. The only "why" is around 1-3 year old : is it bad or good? e.g. does it make him/her cry or smile? That's all, all the rest is about the how.
@thesimulacra
@thesimulacra 9 лет назад
+Shaun Graham I have a bit of an issue with that. The "Why?" that young children ask isn't much different than "How?", "How?" is just a little more sophisticated. That is, it's not a matter of intelligence but a matter of knowledge. They see something that happened, and ask why that happened. They're told not to do something and ask why not. It's a very important question to ask, in my opinion. I've said many times that children are generally among the smartest people (and by correlation that stupid is a learned behavior) because they ask "Why?", and sitting within that little word is the recognition of not knowing, and recognizing that you don't know something is the first step toward leaning. I think it's a bit further to go from the "Why?" that children ask to "Why are we here?" than to "How?".
@shadowdawg04
@shadowdawg04 8 лет назад
+Matt W It is the natural progression of humans, as children, to move from 'why' to 'how'. Why is the question that must be ask first - before comprehension - of principles and integrated systems, etc. - 'why' is the natural state of the young mind prior to knowledge. How can not be asked, except as a parrot, by someone unfamiliar with mathematical and scientific processes, even rudimentary ones. It is only as people 'mature' that they are interested in such things as being, as you put it "...a little more sophisticated." The problem of the modern scientific mind in a nutshell. Thanks for playing.
@tayyabahaider3872
@tayyabahaider3872 2 года назад
Thank you all for such an amazing talk and sharing with us..I am a student of physics and do study philosophy.I was stumbled at this question nothingness is sth so big and out of thought if you think and you keep God out of this question ..it was so amazing
@Kaydin66
@Kaydin66 11 месяцев назад
1:00:06 there was no better explanation of nothing than just the way he said 'nothing'. he summed it up with the tone of his voice.
@Thingfishy
@Thingfishy 4 года назад
Nothing lasts forever.
@mrpearson1230
@mrpearson1230 3 месяца назад
Underrated comment
@Hal2718
@Hal2718 10 лет назад
My question is if nothingness also means no laws, what is there to prevent something coming from nothing?
@TomaszWota
@TomaszWota 9 лет назад
That's a clever point.
@PikUpYourPantsPatrol
@PikUpYourPantsPatrol 5 лет назад
It's not a clever point, you're essentially saying "Well what is stopping this balloon from floating? Nothing is holding it down" What's stopping the balloon from floating is the balloons own non-existence.
@SirDaddyGru
@SirDaddyGru 2 года назад
Michael A. Stroupe at 57:20 Neil actually puts his hand over Krauses mouth to shut him up. So, If you actually watch this whole thing, is it me or does Krause and Tyson seem to be in competition for Eve Silversteins attention? This is a great discussion...one of my favorites.
@brigham2250
@brigham2250 8 лет назад
I watched the religious version of this debate. They announced 5 different theists. The first guy gave his opening remark. He said, "Why are we here? God." Everyone agreed and the talk was over. It was magical. Total time, about 1.5 minutes.
@ovidiudans
@ovidiudans 8 лет назад
+brigham2250 I wanna see that shit:)))
@ovidiudans
@ovidiudans 8 лет назад
+ovidiu dans I will pay for it:)))
@HardKore5250
@HardKore5250 8 лет назад
Lol
@EliezerPennywhistler
@EliezerPennywhistler 8 лет назад
+brigham2250 PISH TOSH.
@HardKore5250
@HardKore5250 8 лет назад
Lol
@beckyweaver5981
@beckyweaver5981 4 года назад
Neil’s amazing. His enthusiasm and love for others shines like a beacon. Love that man.
@truthsoldier5757
@truthsoldier5757 4 года назад
He's an actor, he's not even a scientist.
@toni4729
@toni4729 2 года назад
He spent more time interupting than contributing.
@iv9449
@iv9449 2 года назад
He's the host who's supposed to simplify everything. I think that came with the job - oversimplification
@majorboot
@majorboot 10 лет назад
I came into this world with nothing...and I still have most of it left
@joshuaaugustine1721
@joshuaaugustine1721 3 года назад
Problem with "nothing" is that it's impossible to visualize. Even when trying to visualize nothing, you embed it in something to visualize it.
@schmetterling4477
@schmetterling4477 3 года назад
And there is the solution to the riddle. Not every word makes sense. "Nothing" is one of those that do not, at least not if used as a negation to the totality of existence.
@davesuiter
@davesuiter 8 лет назад
All that amassed knowledge and some of them don't have enough sense to hold the mic at an optimum distance.
@caiotefu9856
@caiotefu9856 8 лет назад
Yup... SUPER ANNOYING!
@owieczkacs
@owieczkacs 8 лет назад
Not only that, most of the people dont have the ability to think if croud can hear them well. I would also want to add another thing to this topic, most of the time we have no interaction with the microphone and most of them have different specifications, some work perfectly when they are close some work perfectly when they are little further. Imho we should not complain about that and just enjoy the ride gathering all that awsome knowledge they give us.
@michaeltreu4152
@michaeltreu4152 8 лет назад
So is this what you say when you are watching people smarter than you? Don't be mad bro.
@MrVaypour
@MrVaypour 7 лет назад
lol
@pureenergy5051
@pureenergy5051 6 лет назад
G That is why we should all run from this utube.
@C1rcu1tBr34k3r
@C1rcu1tBr34k3r 10 лет назад
Hilarious at 39:57 Professor Gott _"is there a big black thing back here?"_ and Neil deGrasse Tyson standing behind him flexing..lol
@deepakk2699
@deepakk2699 2 года назад
I think this discussion is the one of the best ever in any science channels
@kcpenner
@kcpenner 10 лет назад
Reminds me of one of my favorite riddles: What is greater than God, more evil than the devil, the rich need it, the poor have it, and if you eat it you will die? If you ask me for the answer, I will tell you nothing!
@maxcrit3481
@maxcrit3481 6 лет назад
Good one. If that doesn't describe it nothing will.
@abhishekbharadwaj1870
@abhishekbharadwaj1870 5 лет назад
@The Ardent Chef The answer is "nothing". He gave the answer in the question.
@basketofdependables4244
@basketofdependables4244 5 лет назад
tyson is a low IQ moron, he couldn't even answer your riddle! @ 54:55 thru 59:18 neil degrasse tyson asks her to explain 'so and so', which she does, then tyson says but what about the "so and so, tell us about that". seemingly baffled at how he didn't understand what she just said, she says "i just _did_ ". buahaha, tyson is so dense. astrophysicist he is not, classic example of Affirmative Action fail.
@CaptWesStarwind
@CaptWesStarwind 5 лет назад
Ketchup. It's Ketchup, isn't it?
@Art_Travel_and_Hobbys
@Art_Travel_and_Hobbys 4 года назад
😁👍🏿
@Belleville197
@Belleville197 6 лет назад
@1:21:04 "Back up and say something else." That was beautiful.
@72PSI
@72PSI 5 лет назад
I would have liked it if Charles Seife got the chance to speak without being interrupted. Was still an awesome discussion though : )
@SagarWadhwa1
@SagarWadhwa1 10 лет назад
For me, nothingness equates to a form of Heisenberg's Uncertainty principle. You can either know the exact location of a particle or the exact velocity of it. As you approach one, the other becomes more and more uncertain. Similarly, as you approach nothingness, it doesn't remain nothingness, it becomes something! And then you aren't really discussing nothing!
@sjuvanet
@sjuvanet 5 лет назад
Sagar Wadhwa is this a stolen idea/definition or did u come up with it years and years ago? because if not stolen, that's a great way to put it.
@martinsolomon5500
@martinsolomon5500 2 года назад
A particle is something and how can a “you” which is something approach nothingness ? You’re a genius
@mavrosyvannah
@mavrosyvannah 3 года назад
I probably commented on this before, offered my solution, got nothing.
@mrdoghouse6862
@mrdoghouse6862 8 лет назад
In my opinion this was a perfect panel. Everyone seemed to mesh so well, not in terms of agreement but in terms of stimulating fantastic debate and theory.
@jessicacerullo3155
@jessicacerullo3155 10 лет назад
The lack of attention on Eastern philosophy, which has plenty to say on Nothingness, is quite irritating. What Seife mentioned about nothingness and infinity being quite similar actually has some merit. Kurt Vonnegut once said, "Everything is nothing with a twist" and Western philosophers such as Alan Watts have elaborated on this notion (using his knowledge of both science and Eastern philosophy). In Eastern philosophy, there is this notion that there can't be something without nothingness because a Something is only known and differentiated by Nothingness. There is a symbiotic relationship between something and nothing that cannot be conceived if one or the other did not "exist". Science and philosophy are very complementary fields and it's this one-track minded fascination that one or the other must be the correct description of reality really limits philosophers and scientists alike. This discussion would have been a lot more fruitful if there wasn't constant bickering over whether philosophy or science is better. Unfortunately,this panel seemed more about ego than a love for knowledge. Both fields intellectually observe the same set of questions in different ways. Different does not mean wrong.
@capoeirastronaut
@capoeirastronaut 5 лет назад
There was brief mention of the idea the sum of energies in the universe is zero. I'd say: The universe is just really complicated nothing..
@anyariv
@anyariv 5 лет назад
Wow, you said exactly what I was thinking about them omitting Eastern philosophy which dates earlier than their philosophers. "The DAO that can be expressed is not the eternal DAO. The name that can be named is not the eternal name. “Non-existence” I call the beginning of Heaven and Earth. “Existence” I call the mother of individual beings. Therefore does the direction towards non-existence lead to the sight of the miraculous essence, the direction towards existence to the sight of spatial limitations. Both are one in origin and different only in name. In its unity it is called the secret. The secret’s still deeper secret is the gateway through which all miracles emerge." And for some reason I also thought of the wisdom of Kurt Vonnegut while watching this.
@DonaldCarltonPhotography
@DonaldCarltonPhotography 5 лет назад
So glad to see Watts and eastern philosophy mentioned here. Watts’s lecture on nothingness makes more sense to me than any of these guys. The best explanation here was that nothing and infinity are two sides of the same coin, an analogy that Watts himself probably would have used.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 3 года назад
Nonwestern Nothingness is based on Noncommutative Phase logic as Eddie Oshins realized. He was a quantum physicists working at Stanford Linear Accelerator Center and he also taught Wing Chun Neigong (internal martial arts).
@donnievance1942
@donnievance1942 2 года назад
@@anyariv Where did you get your rendering of the Tao Te Ching? Is it your own or some on else's? It is a very interesting take.
@Yorkoholic
@Yorkoholic 9 лет назад
"In the void is only virtue. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." -Miyamoto Musashi-
@garyperkovac1002
@garyperkovac1002 2 года назад
Thanks Neil. Eva (especially) and then J. Richard and Charles were superb! Especially Eva who, it seems, talked exclusively about what she was asked about in an intriguing vernacular. I got a peek into her world! Jim and Lawrence were less interesting as they seem to color their intellectual arguments by arguing. Geez.
@clifftanton8385
@clifftanton8385 5 месяцев назад
Possibly the greatest scientist alive open minded pragmatic
@mrsyettigoosecreature194
@mrsyettigoosecreature194 2 года назад
To me nothing is an incredibly unstable force that holds together everything that is about to be created
@zachariahtuttle3543
@zachariahtuttle3543 2 года назад
thats something not nothing
@mrsyettigoosecreature194
@mrsyettigoosecreature194 2 года назад
@@zachariahtuttle3543 true but I can’t see that nothing could ever be truly nothing
@spectrumofwonder9055
@spectrumofwonder9055 7 лет назад
There should be a reality television show featuring scientists disputing over what are the most immediate and important problems for humanity to solve and how to go about solving them. The winning candidate would be granted a huge sum of money for conducting research in his/her fields of interest(all the money could be crowd-funded). It would also be nice to have the Freudians and Jungians as the show's commentators.
@spar7acvs
@spar7acvs 10 лет назад
How can Jim Holt, with a straight face, deny to Lawrence Krauss that using the word "Why" implies intentionality, when it absolutely does? "How" is a much better question to ask of something that may not have had a reason to exist. It's ironic that Holt makes a jab at Krauss earlier in the program that scientists should keep philosophers around to show them how to use words properly. Perhaps Holt feels threatened by the superior relevance of "How in there something rather than nothing?" instead of "Why?" because the title of his book utilizes the latter.
@mn-ru4li
@mn-ru4li 2 года назад
I agree. I believe Holt shouldn't ask WHY he should nail me, but HOW he should nail me. Followed by WHEN.
@sieracki001
@sieracki001 10 лет назад
The existence of nothing is a contradiction, nothing is non-existence. I think maybe a better way to say this is does the idea of 'nothing' make sense in a physical universe. This might have allowed the discussion to be a bit more fruitful. At the end I must say I did not feel that there was any real progress towards answering the question.
@gregorr6457
@gregorr6457 10 лет назад
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@AuroraXDJ
@AuroraXDJ 10 лет назад
I agree with you. Nothing is not consistent therm that could be explored and discussed with eventual material outcome and conclusion,
@reflexion213
@reflexion213 9 лет назад
Agreed, the discussion went off-topic several times, but as Gott asserted (paraphrasing), "Nothing does not exist, so there's 'nothing' to talk about." In all fairness, there's really no way to have an argument for nothingness without discussing what is. It cannot be measured but only assumed by "gaps" in the physical world.
@LilyoProductions
@LilyoProductions 9 лет назад
Funny thing about this is that if you think about it "nothing" exists by not existing. When you ask why is there something rather than nothing, you're agreeing that something exists, and nothing doesn't exist, but by it's own definition nothingness is non-existent, so for nothing "to be" it would have to not be.
@ReachFalloutVegas
@ReachFalloutVegas 4 месяца назад
​@@LilyoProductionsfinally. I finally found someone saying what Ive been saying.
@capoeirastronaut
@capoeirastronaut 5 лет назад
How has Kraus written a book about nothing without knowing zero arrived with the Babylonians from India (along with 'Arabic' numerals), founded in Buddhist ideas of emptiness? Buddhists hold that existence is eternal also - not just some remote tribe, but one of the worlds major religions!
@grumblydoore8551
@grumblydoore8551 19 дней назад
God I love these debates with Neil and Larry
@CaptWesStarwind
@CaptWesStarwind 5 лет назад
“Nothing. Such a useful word, isn’t it? It can mean anything and everything.” - Mary Poppins
@upryz_4202
@upryz_4202 3 года назад
thermo
@yeahnaaa292
@yeahnaaa292 3 года назад
Mary Poppins. Popped it right in'er.
@udmh1
@udmh1 10 лет назад
Love these discussions. My wish is that that audio could be adjusted to the different speakers, especially for Neil, his volume is way too high. No disrespect to him or what he has to say, brilliant man. For 2014 I hope the audio is tested before recording that way we can hear what everyone has to say.
@mathiasmoser4102
@mathiasmoser4102 10 лет назад
agreed, they need a more experienced live audio mixer, and a better trained cameraman as well while we are at it.... :))
@Weicker5
@Weicker5 3 года назад
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@Weicker5
@Weicker5 3 года назад
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@Weicker5
@Weicker5 3 года назад
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@Weicker5
@Weicker5 3 года назад
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@marifer5414
@marifer5414 4 года назад
Heidi's poem (4:07): Nothing speaks volumes Imprisoned dreams jailed for ever Forgiveness weeps No tears are released Silence begs for ease Anger has no hope Indifference rejoices While Nothing holds court with the jesters of Time Nothing waits, and waits.
@Strangerinasland
@Strangerinasland 10 лет назад
WHY WOULD there be NOTHING rather than something?
@zerototalenergy150
@zerototalenergy150 10 лет назад
reality,we see through our senses... ie.. w see reality as PER our senses.as to what reality is, remains a mystery. . existence of anything ,is phenomenal... inherent existence ,is a fiction. nothing exists INHERENTLY.. all is interlinked and interconnected,nothing can or do exist apart and alone.. (Buddha and also Einstein)
@circularlogic874
@circularlogic874 10 лет назад
This is an interesting comment & I try to expain exactly this to people & I'm suprised at those who can't grasp it. It's nothing more than an expansion of the "tree falling in the woods". The sound is produced by our senses.So with that I ask, if life wasn't arround to observe the universe, would it exsist?
@tigger1roo
@tigger1roo 10 лет назад
A good way to consider the question. Maybe there is no difference, infinity and zero have many common properties. According to Lawrence you need 'nothing' to get the 'something' really it seems to be the classic chicken and egg question, which came first. And remember we don't actually know which way 'time' goes!!
@victorhiggins7802
@victorhiggins7802 10 лет назад
CircularLogic The sound is not produced by our senses but by vibrations of the atmosphere given off by the tree falling. The noise we here is a subjective experience but the sound waves would exist were we there or not, in short the tree doe make a sound when it falls even if no one hears it
@shawkisdump6391
@shawkisdump6391 10 лет назад
Victor Higgins "Sound" is humans short way of saying " My ear drums are vibrating". The falling tree may vibrate the air when it falls,but those vibrations will only be called a sound if those vibrations vibrate a human ear drum.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 8 лет назад
51:00 English is not the correct language to speak when talking about physics. No human language (English, Spanish, Greek, Aramaic) are precise enough for these topics. You can describe physics with language, so long as you understand that the description is not precise. Only mathematics can describe physics precisely, and even then, we aren't really sure exactly HOW precise we are being. No one could precisely describe an orbit until the Calculus was invented. I think that there is another, as yet to be invented mathematics which will help us more precisely describe the world, especially quantum effects.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 8 лет назад
TheGodEmperorofMankind I didn't say language was useless. I said it is not precise. When teaching math. you don't need to be that precise.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 8 лет назад
TheGodEmperorofMankind Okay, I think you misunderstand. I am saying that these things they describe sound crazy to us laymen because we can't precisely understand what they are describing. People become confused when they hear these things because they think that what is being described is exactly what is happening. I am saying it isn't true. They laymen (like you and me) need to understand what the physicists describe in English isn't EXACTLY what is taking place. I provided a time stamp with my comment to provide the context for which my comment is meant. Go and watch at about 51:00. Just click the time stamp, it will take you right there.
@andrewprice8089
@andrewprice8089 8 лет назад
It is also important to note that many of these ideas still only exist as math. We have mathematical models and predictions, but observation of things, like inflation fields, are impossible with our current limitations.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 8 лет назад
Andrew Price But those limitations are being expanded every day. We can do things today that blow the minds of people from just 5 years ago. Imagine what someone from 50 years ago (1966) would think. What will we be doing 50 years from now?
@Kerrsartisticgifts
@Kerrsartisticgifts 8 лет назад
but wuns I get to the end of my twelve flingers and ateteen toes my math skills varnish witch leafs me ownlie my inglish wif witch too solvent the great miniseries of the Univers.
@elysium619
@elysium619 5 лет назад
Neil's constant interruptions and attempts at being cutesy and funny are madly annoying. Rather than being elucidating, he repeatedly arrested the progression of the discussion and the talking points that participants were trying to expand upon. Lawrence is only a little less guilty of this but his manifest smugness is very off-putting. They both are mega vainglorious and simply love to hear themselves talk. Still, it managed to be a very interesting discussion but could have been much more so with a host who was more interested in facilitating rather than entertaining.
@mandeelee8416
@mandeelee8416 5 лет назад
gregory s I was going to say something very similar but I think you’ve summed it up quite well. The only thing I’d add, is how interesting it was that Lawrence called Neil out for interrupting in his very first chance to talk! Then he expresses the expectation of being interrupted later in the discussion. Some foreshadowing of sorts?
@eddiecola292
@eddiecola292 4 года назад
who is still watching 2019
@beebarfthebard
@beebarfthebard 4 года назад
2020 after the plague during the riots
@ЭлементМагии
@ЭлементМагии 5 лет назад
This is gold, I'm so pissed i haven't found it sooner
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 3 года назад
If you have not seen it, this one is a real treat with Neil, Krauss, Brian Greene, Bill Nye, Richard Dawkins and others. /watch?v=9mLMxWhGSbs {:o:o:} Edit: actually, I think that's a copy or a mirror. Here is part 1 and 2 of the original: /watch?v=_J4QPz52Sfo /watch?v=40YIIaF1qiw
@janetsi-minglee9434
@janetsi-minglee9434 7 лет назад
Such an intriguing philosophical topic! Is there a transcript for this panel discussion?
@barryisaacs7136
@barryisaacs7136 2 года назад
You-said-it, Janet!😛😊😎😬
@-_Nuke_-
@-_Nuke_- 7 лет назад
Lawrence's idea of nothing is more like the idea of everything. So in his representation of the birth of the universe is more like a universe out of everything than a universe out of nothing.
@DavidHHermanson
@DavidHHermanson 5 лет назад
When Krauss says "nothing," he means nothing, not an “all” that is somehow equivalent to nothing. I suspect that you're describing what DeGrasse allowed you to hear. His approach to "moderating" was both heavy-handed and clearly favoured the journalists and "science writers" on the panels over the three actual physicists. If I were Krauss, Gott or Silverstein, I'd start refusing DeGrasse's calls after manipulative non-sense like this.
@Poke-Cult
@Poke-Cult 6 месяцев назад
I watch every minute of this and got nothing, thank you for the great discussion.
@playsblueswolf
@playsblueswolf 10 лет назад
Because we invent the universe based on perceptions, language, mathematics, and technology we invent therefore reflecting our limitations.
@Art_Travel_and_Hobbys
@Art_Travel_and_Hobbys 4 года назад
Exactly... But most Academics are too dense in there ego driven narcissism to even realize it. lol
@DankBucketYT
@DankBucketYT 4 года назад
@@Art_Travel_and_Hobbys not really lol ur so special. so deep LOOOL
@Art_Travel_and_Hobbys
@Art_Travel_and_Hobbys 4 года назад
@@DankBucketYT Ha! 😁
@zaratustraw00f
@zaratustraw00f 4 года назад
tal cual. la capacidad de conocer esta limitada por los instrumentos con los que se percibe. continúan digitalizando la realidad que es continua, solo porque el instrumento para percibirla lo es ( la mente ) wtf? es como pixelar un circulo o una esfera....
@kosiilondu
@kosiilondu 4 года назад
@Jonathan Wheeler science is way underfunded on an non-institutional level. What do you expect? If the big tech companies where into pure science, they'd all have their individual LHC.
@onionknight2239
@onionknight2239 6 месяцев назад
This was one of the best Isaac Asimov debates 👍
@2gointruth
@2gointruth 10 лет назад
For truth nothing is impossible!
@debrajohnson1
@debrajohnson1 9 лет назад
How can Krauss claim that Something can come from NOTHING when Nothing cannot be PROVEN given that if it were proven in a lab, that is not nothing already ? English allows ambiguity and thats why there are many definitions of Nothing, Zero, infinity etc.
@robosergTV
@robosergTV 9 лет назад
because you and many others misunderstand him. He means, that there is NO nothing, nothing simply doesnt exist. What he says is that what people _think_ of nothing is actually something.
@debrajohnson1
@debrajohnson1 9 лет назад
So we all agree that Krauss should have explained clearer? Did he failed in communication?
@LittleTed1000
@LittleTed1000 9 лет назад
Debby Johnson Theoretical physics doesn't take place in a lab. It's mathematics.
@LittleTed1000
@LittleTed1000 9 лет назад
***** Up your arse? Is that where's it's hidden? Deep deep inside you? The same place you just pulled that nonsense from?
@LittleTed1000
@LittleTed1000 9 лет назад
***** Can you demonstrate in some way that we have 'evolved into knowledge' we already had? I have a suspicion that you're not a fan of the burden of proof - but we'll see.
@adnanalamoudi
@adnanalamoudi 2 года назад
The host is too interrupting… Pls try to help us listen more in the future.
@abdullahzafar8420
@abdullahzafar8420 3 года назад
Neil is too impatient to be a host. It gets irritating when he breaks the flow
@AntiGroup
@AntiGroup Год назад
Sooooo true!!
@SamSpadeLives
@SamSpadeLives Год назад
He is so passionate about his area of expertise and is keen to get his points out. That's why I love this guy
@AntiGroup
@AntiGroup Год назад
@@SamSpadeLives extreme passion can become an obstruction in the reception
@danahougen7374
@danahougen7374 4 года назад
The Love in Neil's eyes when talking about his parents is beautiful.
@carloss8026
@carloss8026 4 года назад
Do you think we would ever get to meet him? I really want to eat spanish tapas with him
@i_leader_raze9835
@i_leader_raze9835 4 года назад
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@i_leader_raze9835
@i_leader_raze9835 4 года назад
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@i_leader_raze9835
@i_leader_raze9835 4 года назад
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@i_leader_raze9835
@i_leader_raze9835 4 года назад
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@biovmr
@biovmr 3 месяца назад
Nothing from nothing leaves nothing. You got to have some thing, if you want to be with me. - Billy Preston (1974)
@DiamondGirl333
@DiamondGirl333 4 года назад
Live from Crazytown USA 2020! I sleep with youtube autoplay on. Every time I wake up there is a different Tyson -Degrassi vid. I am getting educated in Astrophysics by default! lol :)
@anialiandr
@anialiandr 8 лет назад
FRIENDS, Indian mathematicians had zero (nothing) for thousands of years - why are they there deleting half of humanity in this talk and thus delegitimising the capital of humans by virtue that they were not from Greece. I bet the Greeks borrowed from the Indian people and Egypt which too borrowed form India hence their surge in Greek science/ culture
@LankSheldrake
@LankSheldrake 5 месяцев назад
why are the Sound Quality is very Low ? To make the ads sound nice & Loud ?
@datamoil
@datamoil 2 года назад
Such a pleasure watching this bunch of nerds, cracking absolutely genius geek jokes, that even now, 8 years later, I had no hesitation donating to whatever was their cause!
@Emberchariot
@Emberchariot Год назад
I do love that both men and women are part of the panel, I loved that you could tell who was nervous and who wasn't and all these beautiful humans are exceptionally clever people. I will forever Love Neil degrease Tyson, such a lovely topic as I do have problems myself with the thought of there being nothing, its inconceivable, but my brain is created from something, so I suppose it is hard for a being to believe there could be nothing, if we our programming isn't designed to do that and yet here we all are debating it.
@clifftanton8385
@clifftanton8385 5 месяцев назад
Their has to be something how else does this universe exist theoretically their has to be a way the universe came to be
@BenPortermike
@BenPortermike 8 лет назад
Depends on how you define Nothing. Zero is nothing but it is something. Is nothing between the gaps? Nope that's space. Is space nothing? Sure. I learned its not nothing enough. So what is further than space time (our known universe). Nothing is just escaping our expanding universe. It is a concept. Someday we will define a nothing that we need to make sense of the universe just like when we defined zero. Since we are in 4D, TXYZ, we cant go back in T due to thermodynamics, I can define reverse T travel as going to nothing. Also gong to T too far forward also delivers, nothing. Escaping the universe. Ripping through the universe is just that. And you need the tools of outside the universe to do this.
@seanscully4347
@seanscully4347 2 года назад
Nothing = Everything. There is no beginning, infinity is always there. One cannot say `When did infinity begin`? There`s always something before something, and always something after anything. Everything = nothing. Infinity and all it contains is forever!
@luna39900
@luna39900 8 месяцев назад
DID THE lADY EVER SPEAK?
@arkhitekt7733
@arkhitekt7733 8 лет назад
Tyson and Krauss destroyed this debate. I am so tired of hearing Neil's stupid chuckle. He interrupts 90% of the time to make himself laugh. Nothing wrong with comedy, but after watching a handful of these debates, I can safely say I left just slightly more informed than when I walked in.
@mrdoghouse6862
@mrdoghouse6862 8 лет назад
Then don't watch.
@arkhitekt7733
@arkhitekt7733 8 лет назад
You do understand that, in order to form an opinion one way or another, a person must first subject themselves.
@arkhitekt7733
@arkhitekt7733 8 лет назад
No - you idiot.
@aswinbio1
@aswinbio1 8 лет назад
I was laughing all the time Niel used to chuckle! enjoyed your comment! LOL xd
@bebe8842
@bebe8842 6 лет назад
my thought, too. those moments when he just interrupted and chuckled instead of discussing the topic or let those people debate around the topic.... so annoying.
@SirDaddyGru
@SirDaddyGru 2 года назад
Gott got me. I would love to have him as a professor...I could learn so much from him: He speaks my language.
@chrisphan4566
@chrisphan4566 8 лет назад
She looks like somebody with extraordinary intelligence
@Quark.Lepton
@Quark.Lepton 2 года назад
I love the big goofy nut-ball, Dr. Tyson. I think he’s the only scientist around putting so much warmth and humor into such profound awe-inspiring views of the Cosmos!
@bobdole9708
@bobdole9708 4 года назад
If nothing is infinite, then something must be, which becomes everything eventually.
@RayRay-zt7bj
@RayRay-zt7bj 4 года назад
If the universe always existed then how do we reach this present from an infinite past?
@TheLastOutlaw289
@TheLastOutlaw289 4 года назад
You cant.... why would you want to? You wanna witness creation LMAO
@RayRay-zt7bj
@RayRay-zt7bj 4 года назад
@@TheLastOutlaw289 I never did say that I would want to. What blows my mind the most is the ancient Greeks. If there was no "Zero" then what would they call 1 minus 1?
@themightycelestial
@themightycelestial 4 года назад
I first realized that I had an interest in nothing by watching Jerry Seinfeld's TV show. Since then, my interest in nothing has become a passion for nothing.Which is why I love discussions like this. Because at the end of it, the conclusions that everyone has come to really leads to nothing. Which for me is cool, because even tho I am not and will never be anywhere near as inelligent as the people in this discussion group, I do try to live my life as close to nothing as much as I can (or more specifically, as close to to nothing as I can percieve it). As a matter of fact, as oon as I finish typing these words, I plan to live the rest of today by doing nothing. To my wife's continued chargrin, of course.
@Dnboyy
@Dnboyy 4 года назад
consciousness = nothing
@swedeinla
@swedeinla 8 лет назад
After watching the debate about the universe being a simulation (maybe), this makes more sense all of a sudden. The Big Bang is, when they started the computer program (simulation), and a nano second later everything just existed.
@SolutionsNotPrayers
@SolutionsNotPrayers 2 года назад
Ever wonder if miracles were actually Cheat Codes?
@fadelalhashedi3583
@fadelalhashedi3583 3 года назад
(42) Allāh takes the souls at the time of their death, and those that do not die [He takes] during their sleep. Then He keeps those for which He has decreed death and releases the others for a specified term. Indeed in that are signs for a people who give thought.
@mrpearson1230
@mrpearson1230 3 года назад
1:32:32 Lawrence makes his best statement of the night 🌙 🤝🏽👌🏽
@TheCleverCarbuncle
@TheCleverCarbuncle 8 лет назад
This was hilarious. And just the simply act of them talking about it makes it something. Bahahahaha! It was fun to hear of all of the possibilities of existence or non-existence.
@Adonais39
@Adonais39 9 лет назад
You can not speak of what is not. The point being, as soon as you speak of nothing you give it substance. However, you only give it substance as a concept. Nothing is simply the absence of something, but nothing itself is something because we have conceptualized it as such. You are struggling to find the right answer when you are asking the wrong question. As far as the problem of something coming from nothing. I believe everything is cyclical. Some things appear to be linear depending on your perspective, but in reality there is no beginning or end. The life cycle of the universe is as infinite as the circumference of a circle. The point at which the universe seems to be nothing is merely the point as which the universe appears to be as close to our concept of nothing as we can imagine. It seems to me that we are just struggling to perceive different states of the same thing. The matter is always there, the antimatter is always there, everything is always there. You`re dealing with something that`s infinitely small, infinitely large, infinitely old, and infinitely young all at the same time. The human brain is wired to make sense of everything, but this is a problem that will never make sense in any traditional sense of the world. I think the symbol for infinity is the closest we can get to a physical representation of the universe. The intersection is a massive black hole. The seed of the big bang. Gravity makes the universe expand outward just as it makes it contract inward. It`s simply a fluctuation of pressure. As for what exists outside of this universe, it could be something, but I think as far as we should be concerned it`s nothing. If the universe encompasses everything we know, anything outside of it is the literal definition of nothing until we can prove otherwise.
@VerumOccultum
@VerumOccultum 9 лет назад
Nice. These are some of the thoughts I thought too, especially from the beginning.
@Gnomefro
@Gnomefro 9 лет назад
John Galliah Concepts have no substance though. IMO, it's easy to speak of what is not. The expression "The absence of all properties" is a good way to do so as it makes it clear that any kind of manifestation of anything will be a violation of the concept - which would rule out everything Lawrence talks about as candidates for nothing. I completely agree with what you say about a cyclical nature though. As far as I can tell, it's a logical contradiction to claim otherwise under any worldview to say that something fundamentally "began"(from nothing) and as actual infinite pasts wouldn't explain anything in the first place, we're pretty much left with a finite nature that cycles through a finite set of states(as a consequence of its finite nature there must be a finite set of states - or at least a finite set of states that approximates nature if nature is inherently analogue(but still finite)). _"As for what exists outside of this universe, it could be something, but I think as far as we should be concerned it`s nothing."_ Well, they would be indistinguishable, but I think you're in danger of misusing the word "universe" there as the vocabulary around multiverses, omniverses, metaverses etc is hopelessly confused. I prefer the "Universe=the sum of everything that exists" definition and describe any limitations on knowledge in epistemic terms rather than in terms of ontology. I feel I have good reasons to not care about things I can never know, even in theory, and I'm happy to adopt the default position of nonexistence for all existential claims, which pretty much solves the issue of parts of nature that might be fundamentally inaccessible to us and doesn't do damage to our interest in figuring out as much as possible about the things we can access.
@beammeupscotty3074
@beammeupscotty3074 9 лет назад
John Galliah Hey Guy, You made sense in your statement up to the point of where you say it boils down to nothing at all. Science says that it must always boil down to absolute zero kelvin coldness along with its eternal effects. Absolute zero cannot dissaper entirely. In other words, absolute zero's effects never dissapear into magic goo, supernatural spagetti monsters agents, or any other silly BS nonsense.......
@1R0QU012
@1R0QU012 9 лет назад
John Galliah "excellent" internet philosophy I guess
@beammeupscotty3074
@beammeupscotty3074 9 лет назад
nothingness in its proper definition is nothing at all to make anything with. Theists and metaphysicians (Theists in disguise) Play endless mind games with that word. The was the monkey BS report for today. Amen
@weiberfeind
@weiberfeind 9 лет назад
Krauss can't let his hatred for religion go for even one second. I had to stop it when he started his rant. I used to like him(Physics of Star Trek) but now i despise the man.
@THELANKANCOMRADE
@THELANKANCOMRADE 9 лет назад
Why he is probably mad at how much humanity has been pushed back because of religion.
@matlord8799
@matlord8799 9 лет назад
Cry more little bitch :)
@ALLinALLgood
@ALLinALLgood 9 лет назад
+THE AMERICAN PATRIOT ... A few things to combine. Macrobiotic Yin & Yang Philosophy and its dietary recommendations. Religions that include reincarnation. Science with its Hubble UDF observations of 176 Billion other galaxies. The up-coming 2018 James Webb Infrared Space Telescope expected to find over One Trillion galaxies. Oh yeah, most top Astronomy Scientist's now speculating many other earth-like (hell) planets within such a vast infinite material universe. Finally, Jesus In India ~ The 18 Missing Years.
@weiberfeind
@weiberfeind 9 лет назад
ALLinALLgood it just gets old. He doesn't believe in a God. OK.so does he get a cash prize for repeatably saying it? If he hates religion so much he's more than welcome to move to North Korea where religion is banned.
@ALLinALLgood
@ALLinALLgood 8 лет назад
Lots of things within this infinite material universe exist that have yet to be proven. For example, before man ever discovered atoms and germ microbes they did in fact still exist. All the many various planets and other galaxies also existed long before man had ever discovered them. Your "if it can't be proven it does not exist" logic is highly flawed. Now if you are specifically referring to how it is that humans cannot prove whether a God exists or not, I would also say that you do not live within the spiritual realm at this very moment in time. Of coarse God eludes you. However, if you could decalcify your pineal gland/God Gland you would better be able to vibrationally sense God and the Spiritual World. Hexafluorosilicic-acid/sodium fluoride is purposefully being put into our drinking water and other store bought beverages and food stuffs in order to calcify our pineal gland from receiving infinite universe frequencies/The Holy Spirit. Even Stanley Kubrick tried to warn us of this way back in 1964. RU-vid: Dr Strangelove - Fluoridation 2
@iamnickyj
@iamnickyj 5 лет назад
1:22:02 😂 Haha, I love Neil.
@kevinratay8285
@kevinratay8285 3 года назад
Anything you can say and think (is). Nothing is everything we can't explain. I'm sure one of them said something close to that.
@jonathanbolger6173
@jonathanbolger6173 6 лет назад
Lawrence Krauss is so obnoxious some times.
@-_Nuke_-
@-_Nuke_- 5 лет назад
You would be too if you know that you are right and nobody can understand you. Krauss is right, there is no reason to the existence of this universe there is only a cause of its existence. That cause is the big bang, which in itself doesn't have a meaning but it does have a cause. That cause we don't yet know, some string theorists suggest that higher dimensional membranes collided and created the big bang etc etc... but we don't know that yet but ok, the big bang could had a cause but definitely not a reason. So, to have someone that INSISTS that not only there is a cause to this universe existence but also an intrinsic reason and meaning to it is so absurd that I see why Krauss reacts like that because we WANT so much this universe to have a reason and a meaning, and we get so upset to imagine that its not, that we create religions to make ourselves feel more comfortable in our own lies. If I was Krauss I would have reacted the same way.
@Watchingthesim
@Watchingthesim 3 года назад
No prize for why him & Jim are sitting so far apart
@jonathanbolger6173
@jonathanbolger6173 3 года назад
@@-_Nuke_- It's not only this interview I've noticed it, like most of these pop scientists are megalomaniacs. Look, I am the most non-religious, and pro science person you can think of. But we really have no clue what's going on at the far reaches of this universe, we theorise because of light colour that the universe is cooling, we extrapolate and find the big bang. Do not act like this a forgone conclusion, it's just not. I read an article the other day that reckons it's a 50/ 50 chance we could be living in a simulation and some scientists think this is a genuine possibility. All this to say, there are no certainties when it comes to the beginning of life in the universe, stop acting like it's such a cast iron CAUSE. And maybe have a little humility.
@SKarthikeyan75
@SKarthikeyan75 8 лет назад
Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Can you let someone else speak??? So full of himself.
@worda2290
@worda2290 8 лет назад
Your so spot on!
@Petrov3434
@Petrov3434 8 лет назад
+Karthikeyan Subramanian So unfair...of you to even think that way
@CapitalJ2
@CapitalJ2 8 лет назад
+Karthikeyan Subramanian He's doing his job as a moderator. He tries to explain what each panelist says in simple terms to help people understand. I can see why I can be annoying when he interrupts sometimes if you already understand, but for the people who don't, I think he does an excellent job of explaining it in layman's terms.
@mrdoghouse6862
@mrdoghouse6862 8 лет назад
Do you think he's just there to suck his thumbs? And for the most part he interrupts to either explain a topic or get the debate back on track, for the AUDIENCE. I fail to see how that makes him full of himself, if anything it's the exact opposite.
@jvcyt298
@jvcyt298 10 месяцев назад
How can nothing exist when nothing is an absence of something, like cold is an absence of heat or energy, nothing, I would assume is an absence of matter and energy, perhaps even an absence of space/time.
@umuhungu201
@umuhungu201 10 месяцев назад
no cold is heat of low temperature heat exist everywhere like heat at -53c . nothing is absence of a thing and there is no way that's possible. cause heat can't be created or destroyed there is heat everywhere even in the beginning there was heat and heat can not be found. it manifested by paticles . without matter there there would be no heat and that's not possible
@ElCholoDeJolo
@ElCholoDeJolo 8 лет назад
Neil does need to shut up at times.
@worda2290
@worda2290 8 лет назад
Yepp!
@CapitalJ2
@CapitalJ2 8 лет назад
+Yees008008 He's doing his job as a moderator. He tries to explain what each panelist says in simple terms to help people understand. I can see why I can be annoying when he interrupts sometimes if you already understand, but for the people who don't, I think he does an excellent job of explaining it in layman's terms
@lostcause1281
@lostcause1281 6 лет назад
Nothingness is something to be personally experinced silently; not calculated, answered or anything.
@drakekay6577
@drakekay6577 5 лет назад
28:49 Space is the consequence of gravity. We do not know if space exists without a gravitational region overlapping it(space).
@jasonwyles4762
@jasonwyles4762 2 года назад
If you can describe it...it has value, now it's this thing called something
@jrwhite3950
@jrwhite3950 2 года назад
I'm at work while I'm listening to this.... patiently waiting for someone to inquire about what I'm listening to so I can correctly state, nothing!
@toni4729
@toni4729 2 года назад
Did anyone ask?
@AztroNut66
@AztroNut66 Год назад
1:33:27 Rich describes the speed of expansion of each individual universe as being responsible for the event horizons between them. Most inflation models describe an expanding negative gravity "material" (for which Rho remains constant) from which these individual universes emerge. And the rapid expansion and creation of this negative gravity material between the individual universes occurs faster than the individual universes expand, which results in those universes being separated faster than the speed of light (event horizons). I understand that Rich's model is describing a timeline of events and not the specific geometry. However, if the universes are expanding WITHIN this repulsive gravity material (field), then the outside of Rich's model wouldn't be an example of "nothing".
@segura2112
@segura2112 7 лет назад
I really enjoy these debates, but the thing I wonder about is why Dr.Tyson doesn't have a mic like everyone else?
@TeachersAreStudents
@TeachersAreStudents 8 лет назад
Learning is an absolute constant
@lethalwolf7455
@lethalwolf7455 Год назад
Nothing is the non area non reality not existing outside of ours or any given universe, but nothing can be found everywhere within our universe as well, it exists everywhere measured smaller than the Plank length. Any measurement, even within matter, smaller than the Plank length will contain nothing.
@RoyBuchanan309
@RoyBuchanan309 8 лет назад
Observation of nothing creates space. Consciousness. You cannot define nothing existing without something making the observation of such absense. An absolute duality.... It is necessary for something to exist. You cannot effectively describe absolute nothing, for there is no "it" to describe. Think of how when you imagine something, you always have space. Perspective is of the mind and consciousness, as is dimension and geometry. It just IS for it cannot not be.
@drakekay6577
@drakekay6577 5 лет назад
The problem I have with his piece of glass, is that the emergences are parallel, side by side. Instead of nested within each other, as we see in the universe.
@jffost5843
@jffost5843 5 лет назад
Meaning "nothing" exists as "something."
@elliottswanson9307
@elliottswanson9307 7 месяцев назад
Interesting program. Nothing would have been preferable to the intro poem, lol!
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