2014 Kia Forte shake, rattle and stall- Diagnosing stalling issue 

Thanks Chris. I wasn’t sure if I wanted to or not but I figure if it saves someone else time and money then the video is worth making. Thanks for watching.

Same here. Just did mine today. Had same symptoms. Wow

I have started using it more and more for low pressure checking. The mechanical gauges don’t seem to have enough resolution below 20psi. Thanks for watching Cody.

Becky Briones that is awesome!!!! Not awesome that they missed the issue but awesome that you were able to get it fixed. Thanks for the comment and hope you have a trouble free car now. 👍🏼

I’m going to try this because Kia can’t seem to find out why my 2014 Kia Forte is stalling just shutting off while driving ty

The dealership solution is either sell a boatload of parts, or deny that a problem exists and send you packing. I bet that they never even duplicated the problem; too many gravy jobs waiting.

I tried the simple route with just a pressure gauge first but the scope gives so much more detail. Thanks for stopping by Keith.

@@ThePracticalMechanic my 2018 Kia Forte LX is constantly stalling. I’m out of options.. I’ve had the car 7 month and it’s been at the dealer a total of 3 months all together, it’s there now. The dealer can not find the issue and I’m out of options. They replaced the fuel pump/fuel pressor sensor and that didn’t solve the problem

Thanks for stopping by Billy. You have a safe and blessed week as well.

Same thing is happening to me.

sorry for the delay. What was your results? Plugged filter? We are now stocking the kia/hyundai oil filters and recommending 3,000 mile intervals. We are seeing too many oiling issues.

@@ThePracticalMechanic I ended up changing the MAP sensor and the crankshaft sensor since both their codes showed up in the scanner and the car is perfect now

@@ThePracticalMechanic Oil pressure was 8-9 PSI at hot idle. After install a NAPA gold filter it was 20 PSI. No more stalling.

Let me know if that takes care of your issue.

@ThePracticalMechanic It is looking good so far. I need to drive it around a little more, but I tried to low idle stall it and it wouldn't stall. I put "Engine Restore" in a week or so ago, and I think that loosened some gunk into my oil filter. Lesson learned on that.

Thanks Burt!! Someday you just never know what your going run up against. Have a great weekend.

I just provided the information. Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching.

What was the update

Since this video I have been expanding the amount of OEM filter I keep in stock. I don't want to be the cause of future issues. Hope the oil change helps you out.

I asked your husband as well but I was wondering if you were able to change the oil and if the car is running any better?

Hopefully the oil change will fix it. Any oil filter at this point will be better than the dirty on you have but if you have a local Kia/Hyundai dealer try and get a factory oil filter installed. An alternative would be the “Full” brand oil filter that you should be able to get from a Napa/Carquest/Advanced auto store but they may have order it in. The good filter is still only $5-8 depending on purchase location. You may also want to consider switching to 3000 mile intervals once you know for sure no permanent damage has occurred. Good luck!!

How did it turn out?

It worked like a charm! Got the big filter from Napa, got one for my 2012 Kia too. I've never had it ping like that, but it's a standard so I generally have it revving higher at slow speeds. I think it works harder too, smaller engine. How did you figure it out? I would never have equated the timing advance to a drop in oil pressure, and I'm an engineer. You sir, are brilliant!

Been trying to hunt down the cause of this issue on my kia. Looks like it worked. Thanks a ton

Frank It took me a little while to duplicate the knocking indoors but if you can get it to act up while driving it might be worth at least slapping on a new cheap oil filter and see if the noise changes. A $4.00 oil filter is a cheap test. If you have a quality low pressure gauge you might see low oil pressure like I did. I could not pick it up on my 0-100psi analog gauge so I had to use the digital setup. The customer has not had any issues since and we just worked on their other vehicle last week so I’m they would have mentioned it. I think they got lucky and brought it in to the shop early enough to avoid major damage. One of my lube techs brought a napa filter over to me yesterday and let me know they changed manufacturers. They were using wix/affinia and now they are Mann/Hummel the filter is heavier and looks more like a factory filter. I hope this change in brands means better quality and a closer match to factory specs and operation.

@@ThePracticalMechanic your the man ! Thanks for the update. Car has a napa filter on from last year. Just got a kia filter with catch valve . Hopefully will see an improvement. Thanks again!

Can confirm, my forte started ticking around 50k, still does at 130000km. Still no engine problems, though.

Those engine do not have adjustable valves. They have solid lifters

There are so many things that could cause poor fuel mileage. It might be time for a second set of eyes to give it a shot. Without seeing the cars data while driving under different load conditions and testing individual components your just going to be guessing.

You used premium gas only? How is the car now? Any issues?

My forte doing this recently, did you figure out a fix for yours?

What did you come up with? Hopefully some easy stuff like a tune up and oil change.

It ended up being the customers father took the car for Christmas and had a remote start put on. They ran a wire through the firewall and into the first coil pack. There is two wires a blue and a red. they damaged the 2 wires and they were intermittently arcing. I also changed all four plugs and coil packs .. car runs great. his factory radio was not working the dealer told him it was burnt out. Replaced the fuse.. still working great today.

@@larsbambi1575 we see lots of issues with remote starts and radio install causing battery drains but luckily not poor running.

PJfrostbite after seeing many Napa filters have this issue I would stay away from those. Mann and Full should be decent filters and both can be purchased through most Napa stores in the altrom line. If you can get them that way just swing by the dealership and pick up a couple, they are inexpensive.

Thank You! My other halfs forte is doing the same thing. Probably just swap out the oil filter then and see if it stops. Mann and full

See @ 6 min mark, wrong oil filter installed

Same here oh my god its infuriating

It is possible that it has the same issue. It might be worth it to have the oil changed even if you don’t purchase the car just to find out. If the noise is still there it may have more issues. The $40 oil change may save you thousands of repairs expenses.

@@ThePracticalMechanic thank you for your feedback. The owner mentioned that it had done that for the last 6 months and I saw that he had a recent oil change so I am NOT buying that car. Do you know what Kia model years do not have this engine problem?

I’m not really sure since I only have a few customers with Kia vehicles. I’ve seen this problem on other newer vehicles as well but with less of an affect. I think a similar model would still be fine if the owner has maintenance records showing regular oil changes. 3000-5000 mile intervals is normal although I prefer using a factory oil filter and 3000 mile oil change intervals for extra protection on newer vehicles.

I recently bought a 2014 Kia forte with 101,523 miles on it I was at a stop light and the car turned off on me which I don't understand it's basically a new car with a good engine it seems to be

You may have an engine that is worn out. The oil filters plug up with small metal shavings and hard oil deposits. Driving for long periods with a restricted oil filter causes accelerated wear and more particles. Changing the oil filter cannot restore the worn components back to new condition. It might be time for internal engine work or a new engine.

We use the BG EPR flush I believe is part number 109 and then we use the BG MOA in the new oil part number 115.

The flickering and voltage issue won’t be related but if you haven’t changed you oil recently you may want to change the filter and top up the oil. Less than $10 to find out if that’s your problem.

Just swapped filters today.... did not notice any major change.

I have a 2014 forte, am having engine issues and oil consumption. No codes are showing but there’s definitely something wrong. I got regular oil changes because I have a warranty and the warranty is invalid, if you don’t. Multiple times I came in and there was no oil, yet I was 1000-2000 before an oil change was due. There’s a few lawsuits about this, so I am trying to find others.

@@lauranelson9994 do you have the EX? GDI?

@@ThePracticalMechanic it ended up being i bought two faulty alternators in a row, also a bad ignition coil.

Maybe you put on a filter that's too small? See @6min mark

@@rancidpunxcrypto1547 no the new filter is the same as the original one

Your last oil change was done at a Kia Dealership?

@@rancidpunxcrypto1547 no

Wherever you got your last oil change done prob also put the wrong one on. I'd go to a Kia Dealership, get an oil change done, they'll put the right size one on, it's prob bigger than the one you got on now.

Wrong oil filter, see @ 6 min mark

Did you fix your kia. What was the fix?

It’s possible that yours has direct injection. Look for a GDI badge on the car somewhere or on the engine cover or on the emission label under the hood.

Thanks, I thought all KIAs 2015 are GDI engine..but I guess not

What did you come up with? Did an oil change fix it or is it too late?

@@ThePracticalMechanic It solved the problem just like you did on your video.

@@timbuktug3321 great news.

@@ThePracticalMechanic yes sir

Absolutely Pauly D. Even at $50 per oil change they would have saved money.