2014 Toyota Rav4 long crank time 

Thanks Billy. You do the same. 👍🏻

It’s the first one I’ve seen also. My guess is the fuel quality but you never know. Maybe these injectors are sensitive to fuel quality issues.

Thanks for stopping by. I really wanted to film it and as I was filming the diag the first time it just wasn’t working out (shop noise, interruptions, ect) so I had to hit the reset button and try again after hours.

The oil had just of hint of fuel to it. The mail company is supposed to have their maintenance tech change the oil.

The owner confirmed that they have their own fuel tank at headquarters that they use to fill the vehicles every morning. We told them to start running an additive or a different brand of fuel in this vehicle.

You are correct. Rob visited before our journey to the Vision training event last year. Thanks for coming by and checking out my channel.

Finally someone that gets it. When I go to help other shops with problems like this they look at me like I'm crazy because "fuel injected vehicles do not vapor lock" or that s what they think anyways. Chrysler has had this problem ever since they made the move to returnless fuel system in the late 90's. Honda had this issue in Colorado and surrounding state with winter blend fuel and hot days. Honda requires an updated regulator that bumps the pressure by 10 psi and a new ECM. I wonder if the fuel boiling and cavitation in the rail will cause additional damage over time. I suppose most owners will be so frustrated by the hard start condition they will repair the vehicle before other damage occurs. Thanks again. Have a great weekend.

You guys are dead on a notch above the rest 👊🏻👊🏻

Glad it was helpful!

I learned that from the office.

@@ThePracticalMechanic ill have to rewatch that episonde. i dont remember NOTHING from what you told me when you got home last night LOL

Many of my hoses came from a cheap amazon fuel test kit. I also made a few of my 5/16 and 3/8” quick coupler nipples. I need to order more foster couplers. I’m out of couplers that seal 100%.

It could be an injector issue. I have been seeing more and more issue lately and not just toyota. A fuel pressure test may confirm the issue. Another item that has been causing issue this summer is EVAP purge solenoids. This solenoid allow the excess fumes from the fuel tank to be burned by the engine. If the valves sticks open the fumes can enter the engine when the engine is off. This concentration of fuel fumes makes the engine harder to start and a rich condition will result for a few minutes after startup.

Lol. Scotty hasn’t met a rural mail route company on a tight budget.

That is what this rav4 was doing. Cold starts were fine but hot starts had a longer crank time and the engine would run rough. Injectors fixed this one but you may need to perform some testing.

Did you add any performance parts? Cold air intakes and k&n air filters don’t help these vehicles. Did you change tires? Tires have a big impact on MPG. If nothing has changed verify that all tires are at the correct pressure. Now that you have owned it for a bit have you been adding gear or junk into the car? Extra weight can flush the MPG down the drain. Did you drive more conservative when you got it or perhaps drove it hard when you got it? In my highlander I drive it like I stole it and still get decent mpg but could probably do better if I eased up a bit.

Btw… i posted this with my husbands account name. Im the wifey… tracy🙋‍♀️

We have the same issue with our 2012 sienna, we replaced spark plugs, still having the same issue. I was going to check the fuel pressure next. I’m hoping we see an issue there. Since the injectors are expensive to replace in the sienna, I was going to try getting them cleaned by running the cleaner straight to the fuel rail. If you find a fix please post. Thanks and Goodluck.

The cold starts we’re about 3 seconds of cranking. Hot starts were anywhere from 10-20 seconds of cranking.

@@ThePracticalMechanic Thank you so much. I have a similar issue but with an older Toyota(return system) that all began after getting Gas from Citgo. Cold starts are great, hot starts are bad. If I snap the throttle at idle big hesitation a few pops of black smoke (rich mixture)in the exhaust before the engine revs up. I assumed that the fuel pump is ok because my cold starts were good and is new miles wise . That is why I asked my question. Car does sit mostly but is started regularly. Fuel pump, injectors, pressure regulator all replaced 12 years ago (2000 miles)

J P on a return system you might want to check the vacuum hose on the regulator also. If there is fuel present then the regulator is faulty. The evap purge solenoid could also stick open and allow excess fuel vapor into the engine. This would be worse after you fill up the tank at the fuel station.

It was harder to start warm iirc

@@ThePracticalMechanic mine takes long to start about 45mins after switched off. No good mechanic in my area, mechanic says take to auto electrician, electricians say take it to mechaniccant win. Going to replace pump soon. Thanks for reply. Any advice will be appreciated 👍

@@mohammadshabir643 next time it doesn’t want to start try pressing the accelerator down about half way while cranking. If it starts easier then you may have excessive fuel in the engine from leaking fuel injectors