Really not sure about this ram duct. The stock design is very good, well sealed and draws air from the high pressure area at the nose via the snorkle already. It's out of the way enough to avoid debris (rocks, salt, bugs, rain etc) wearas the ram duct would definitely suck in more junk to the filter. Not a huge deal if you have a filter you can change or clean but with this duct you'd literally have to take the bumper off to change the filter (stock airbox anyway). They say the airflow increases at the square of the vehicle speed yet the graph on the site shows a consistent flow inc from low gears low rpm all the way up. So not sure those numbers accurately reflect what's happening when the car is moving. If the ecu compensates with lower wastegates duty to target a specific boost your mass airflow will stay the same, possibly colder intake temp and manifold air temps, improved compressor efficiency. My temp at the maf is always around ambient anyway. Also I have a slightly larger turbo, I'm seeing around 270 g/s (35+ lb min) at redline wheras their test car (basically stock) is only seeing 27-28 lb min. So I'm already flowing way more are with no temp increase or restrictions that I can see. Curious if anyone has some good data can't find any solid dyno numbers or 1/4 mile improvements to really prove a difference. Nicely made piece and looks cool for sure. Not convinced yet the price is worth the performance or potential issues with a dirty filter and the hastle of the bumper removal.
I saw good results just changing out the stock grill to a carbon mesh one, and instead of hella horns I got the jdm subaru ones. Also added a perrin radiator shroud and it definitely lowered the temps a bit .
Thanks! Oh wow, I was just looking at those the other day 😂. The only thing stopping me is the potential fitment issues with aftermarket exhausts. I’m all about the weird parts!
The red accents from snorkle and horns pop my dude I like it! I'm very interested in your review of this part cause I just add to the Ghost! Great video once again sir!
Looks nice Ron, but I'm not totally sold on the whole "ram air" that makes several bends to a filter, then several more bends to the turbo, etc. I guess in theory it works, to a degree, but I would think low pressure cool air is more ideal. How much "high" pressure air is really making its way to the filter? Maybe ram air on a turbo is lost on me....
That is a nice addition man and also good luck with your retune 🤛. I had the Velossa tech on my Fiesta ST when I had it. Very nice pieces and adds a bit of flair and functionality at the same time. Keep it up man.
Looks great. Only “issue” I see is easily removing the intake duct if you ever need to take it off for whatever reason. But I guess you pull just remove the entire intake box if you needed to.
These are made to order too* eta isn't too bad, I think I'll order one. Thanks for doing this vid. keep on grindin' and stay up brotha ✌. Great content too*
@@ronfromportland do you happen to know of a company that makes the snorkel that connects to the AEM intake box that's also compatible with the GrimmSpeed charge pipe on a 15+ sti?
My only issue is if you get a big splash of water on a rainy day from a puddle infront of u from another car infront of u it will suck all that water right in now. Happened to my friend with his Focus RS who had a very similar snorkeler, engine was toast, so in order to prevent all that suction if it were to occur is to drill some vent breather holes somewhere on the factory inlet or this so it won't suck in a wave of water.
Looks doped bro. Interesting to find out actual performance result. I have the JDM Zerosports wind scoop. Im gonna be posting the DIY video too soon in my channel.
Big concern here would be sucking up water. During heavy rain, puddles and such I would be concerned. I made something similar but a homebrew version. Great install and video.
Was browsing subi vids and did not expect to run into a product like this. Very cool, thanks for sharing! Thanks for answering common questions. How about in regard to blocking air flow to the radiator? Will this fit with aftermarket parts like and after market snorkel or even a front mount intercooler? Thanks!
Thanks! There is plenty of clearance around the radiator so there shouldn’t be any issues with blockage. Are you referring to the intake duct? I haven’t seen very many aftermarket intake ducts. I know the Cobb Redline Intake has a duct but even that is identical to the OEM shape. Yes, it will work with a front mount 👍.
For anyone watching there is absolutely no need for a a tune after installing this this short air ram, neither will you see much of a power gain with it, its main purpose is to create a smoother/faster path for the air to get to your intake, this modification is pre MAF and is not metered air entering the system, until it passes through your intake into you MAF sensor !!!!
A tune isn’t necessarily required but it’s probably ideal to get one to reap the maximum benefits of the snorkel. I’m planning on getting a retune in the future just to see what the changes are. Hope this helps!
I agree. It might only help cooling in hot climate. I am pretty sure Subaru engineers thought about this and decided it’s not really needed. But it won’t hurt definitely
I doubt more power that can be felt above what he already has installed. What this does (potentially) change is intake air temps. But when compressed in the turbo, all bets are off. A N/A engine is a different story. Smooth, fast flow and superior intercooler cooling is more important than a few degrees of intake air temperature
@@ronfromportland interesting may buy it. Just curious how it would change the flow to the Big SF but I mean it’s measured to 1 inch so I don’t think it would change much just the location of the air being pulled in. Also makes sense because now it’s not pulling heat off the motor.
Curious on the looks. Looks like a 3d printed piece. I have the compressive tuning aground and thinking about using this or the compressive tuning shroud and cannot decide
Can’t go wrong with either of them. I like that the Velossa Tech is so visible from the front, especially with a badgeless grille. The compressive tuning is harder to see but still provides a little functionality.
@@ezimm81 the snorkel is definitely the more superior one in my opinion. The shroud is great but it lacks data, at least during the time I had it. Although I never got to test it for myself (had planned on getting a retune but green speed update happened), Velossa Tech has data of the benefits they claim.
@@ronfromportland any info if this will work with the redline intake? Was thinking about picking that up in the near future and only running cobbs sf intake
@@ezimm81 I think it requires modification to work with the redline intake so I’m going to say no to be on the safe side. It’s only meant for the OEM intake duct as far as I know.
Bro you and i live in Oregon and we all know how ofter it rains but you’re not worried about water getting in the Intake?? Or is it that good that it wont?
This was one of the questions I specifically addressed with the founder of Velossa Tech. Velossa Tech tested their products during Florida rainstorms with no issues of hydrolock on nearly 40 platforms. Driving through a deep puddle is a different story though.
Unless you are 100+hp over stock, there is no advantage to upgrading the intake on these cars. Mrp performance has the data that shows this. I'm sure other places do too
@@ryankeller3159 the filter can be accessed by removing the cover to the intake box. Only downside is that it’s a bit of a hassle to remove the duct since the clips are hidden. But you almost never have to remove the duct.
Is it possible with the stock you can take the color portion off and snake it under the cross member and reattach it? It looks like that might be possible. That would leave only taking the bumper off.
Not sure if the clearance would be big enough for the top portion of the snorkel since it’s curved. Removing the cross member is probably the easiest solution.
I know you made this video a while ago but I just got this unit for my STI. Do you know if the Cobb Access Port will provide an “off the shelf tuning option” for the intake?
From my Facebook group, one member mentioned that we’ll need to get a DAMD grill. Trim plastic around the radiator and drill two holes to make it fit. Not a huge amount of modifications but it will fit…. I’m willing to find out.
Interesting 🧐 ram air 💨 intake and looks well made. 👍 Air flow and air temperature graphs 📈 on website were intriguing 🤨 as well. Intuitively more cool air is best. As it is bolted to the car, with bolts that are only accessible with the front bumper removed and the snorkel seals tight against the OEM intake there is no way to access the pins that hold the front of the OEM intake place. Long story short this snorkel can’t work with an OEM filter box only after market big cold air intakes where you can access the cone filter downstream of the OEM intake. Maybe generation 2 will have a top access panel with gasket. Look forward to seeing the WHP and torque gains. My guess 5 to 7 WHP with maybe 🤔 an additional 7 to 10ft•lbs torque. I will stick with what I have, Compressive Tuning Smartflow Shroud and maybe add something to the ram air tray to direct air flow better. I am also installing the Cobb Redline Carbon Fiber Intake so the snorkel wouldn’t seal properly.
I addressed this a little bit at the end but basically, according to the Velossa Tech founder, a tune isn’t really required. In order to see the full benefits of the snorkel, a tune is recommended.
It's required. Vellosy tech or anyone else doesn't care if you damage your car due to slapping random parts onto it. But you should. (ThE bOx SaiD +10 hOrsEpowEr) mentality is pretty dumb.
My bad, looks like I missed this comment. It should fit a fmic. Found this on their site: cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0030/6400/4665/products/20220110205105_IMG_3419_1_1024x.jpg?v=1642296093
Pretty interested in getting one but I’m scared it won’t fit with my carbon grill since the mesh sits further back and lwrclssgarage front brace. Would you happen to know?
Oh dude, I thought about this exact same thing since I was interested in their front brace. I highly doubt there’s enough room with the brace installed since it looks like it would sit right where the snorkel opening is. Hard to say if it’ll touch your grille or not either. There’s about a 2” gap from my grille to the snorkel but I know those carbon fiber grilles sit far back.
@@ronfromportland Yeah, exactly my thoughts. Would be a killer looking combo with the front brace and snorkel but it’s too expensive of a gamble for me right now.
Just asked a friend of mine who got the redline carbon intake. He said it sits up higher and is overall bigger than the stock one. I highly doubt it’ll work without additional modification.