Im a LandRover tech and i will say this happens all the time. The Y pipe under the intake cracks and customers keep driving and by the time you get a overheat light you have already caused major damage. Most of the time a new engine is cheaper for the customer. They’re going to need a lot more than head gaskets. Make sure you check the cam that drives the HPFP’s on oil pan. That cam will seize when the car overheats. You put head gaskets and timing chains on the motor. Motor will run for a short while than that cam will break and you’ll have to pull the motor back out to replace it 😢.
I have a 21’ Range Rover and every time I park in my garage I can smell coolant but the coolant level is full and there is no evidence of coolant leaking anywhere. Should I be concerned?
@@jdookie2908 I have 2011 Jag XJ SC. If you can smell coolant its leaking; it may be very slow but it is. The coolant could drip onto hot engine components and vaporize long before it can drip. Check that water pump first.
Owner already got his money's worth; 160K on a JLR engine is basically full use. I have a 2011 Jag XJ SC with 110K miles, last summer my 19 yr old was driving it and the rear (plastic) crossover pipe finally gave up and he saw the low coolant warning and steam from under the hood. I told him 2 years before the quickest way to kill an engine is to keep driving if you see low coolant warning or steam from under hood. The kid listened; he pulled over immediately and called me. It cost me $2500 to fix, but that's a lot cheaper than a new engine and I just did my errands in it today; idles so smooth you can hardly tell its running.
When you wrote $2500 for the repair, I thought the engine was being changed. What on earth did it cost $2500 to repair a broken pipe ? Did you completely change the entire cooling system in the Jaguar service ?
@@neolerades2987 You not familiar with modern Euro engines?? Plastic everywhere, and you have to remove half the accessories to get to the part that cracked. The parts were only $800 (yes a few other pipes not just the cracked one); everything else was labor. 😂
Best auto channel on RU-vid. Exceptional technicians and leadership. Nothing like it. Probably one of if not the best in the United States. Really impressed by the quality of work. Would love to work there
Run hot until it stops is instant long block. Do not pass go, do not send one of your kids to college. The skipped beat on cranking could easily be a dropped valve seat or burnt ringland from the overheat.
Do you know him personally? Why do people make bold statements like that. You’ll change your mind after you read their yelp reviews. It aint good. Never seen so many bad reviews
The dealers rip you off. From that point forward you can go back or not. You can get a cheap mechanic or a great mechanic. He gives you the best results at a certain price. But like this gentleman commented he is also a great person. Suck it up and get a rig that goes 250,000 everytime. That means you're getting a decade at a time, without the getting screwed part.
As a tech with nearly 40 years experience I still find it incredible how often and how far customers will continue to drive with a problem. I'd use a scope and amps clamp as a quick and non intrusive compression test/comparison. Keep up the good work
@@DavesAutoCenterCenterville- Dave and Staff thank you for your videos, can I call my next Shop, The 4 C’s - whether it’s cars or boats or computers it’s a wonderful analysis tool. kind Regards from Australia.
Not talking down one bit. He is talking to him as a fellow professional. Notice how before he asks him he refers to him as an excellent mechanic. Nothing negative here
Dave's Wisdom is incredible. Great to hear an honest person giving a game plan of how to tackle certain things that apply not only to mechanical work but life as well...
While I'm not fortunate enough to have Dave's shop within my driving distance (2500 mi. is a bit too far for regular service) I do have a competent guy locally who I trust. He's always been honest with me, he upholds his warranties, and he gives me the good, bad, and ugly of the situation before we make any decisions about what to service. When you find someone you can trust, take care of them and keep them in your phone book.
JLR tech here. The math is pretty straightforward. A used low-mileage 3.0 SC engine is going to run you $7,500. The existing engine will need absolutely everything-plan on salvaging very little. If you think you can do a top to bottom overhaul and sort absolutely everything for under $7,500 then go that route. I seriously doubt you can. Remanufactured engines are awful. It's a $20,000 vehicle with that mileage. Find a 2016 and later 3.0SC engine with under 40,000 miles and drop it in and be done with it. Avoid the 2014-2015 engines as they have lots of issues from the factory.
At 130k miles with our 2014 RRS 3.0, and it’s had no issues but the usual supercharger coupler at 100k miles. But I run waterless coolant, so no cooling system failures with near zero pressure in the cooling system. And this 2015 with those many miles is closer to a $10k vehicle, not $20k.
@@JetFire9 Find me a 2015 Range Rover in good shape for $10,000 on Autotrader or at any legitimate dealer with that mileage and I'll go buy it tomorrow.
I have heard that. I asked my trusty mechanic about the Range Rover. I think they are an attractive car. He said they had a couple out back with 100,000 miles they would sell me for $2,000. He said they are not very good after a 100,000 miles. Unfortunate, since they are expensive and attractive.
He said the same thing when I asked about a beautiful Jaguar. He told me if I buy it, I will have to sleep in it, because my wife would hate how much money I would spend on it, and she would throw me out.
Just started following channel after seeing you on Dave sparks channel. You’re a great man Dave. Big fan of your work watching from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
Just came across your You Tube site....and WOW it is really GOOD. I like your approach to dealing with people The industry needs more people like you and your employees!!!
These JLR 3.0 v6 and 5.0 v8 engines are one and done when overheated, it will warp both block and heads to a point you can’t even machine them straight even after cutting down to minimum spec. You’ll see online there’s a ton of theses engines for sale, reman, rebuild, used low miles and they want $5k-$15k. It’s a high demand engine because they go thru them like tic tacks!
Weird. I've been driving a 5.0L NA for 20k miles since overheating badly enough to warp the heads and lose compression. Pulled the heads, new gaskets, timing set, valve seals, coolant hoses and pipes, head bolts, and just about every other wear-part along the way. Did about 200 miles of freeway driving today. Love it. Guess I am really lucky. Sounds like Dave is willing to repair similar issues.
I would try to convey to them that you don't want them to HAVE to come back to the shop, rather, you would want them to WANT to come back to the shop after seeing the quality of work you provide. Side note, as a Landy owner (D4) once they start overheating STOP IMMIEDIATLY!!! These engines are temperamental as it is and they are thirsty as all get out. In fact if you're looking to get into repair or becoming a tech I recommend buying a Land/Range Rover as they MAKE you maintain your vehicle or you pay a hefty price.
How about we all hold hands around the range Rover with the driver in the seat and sing "Tomorrow, tomorrow, there's always tomorrow, it's only a day away".
Haa Hahaa so TRUE My Dads saying It takes 5,000 nuts to hold a car together And it takes just one “LOOSE NUT” to spread it over the “HIGHWAY” That’s the one BEHIND THE STEERING WHEEL
You guys are awesome. I doubt there is too many shops like this one if any. I would attempt to fix it myself because we don’t have mechanics like you where I live. I have learned to fix things because I can’t afford to be screwed over.
As a heavy equipment mechanic for a construction company. My boss asked me to help his brother inlaw with his jeep. Someone had told him it needed a new injector. Sure that’s easy. He had the new injector. I put it in number 5 position as that was the cylinder with the miss. No change. Hummmm bad information as usual. No worries I told him let’s check this out. And see if the spark plug was working. Swap it with another no charge. Ok what is happening. With it at idle I opened the oil fill cap held a rag over it and watched it flutter in the breeze from the compression internally. I did a compression test and yes 5th cylinder was only 45 pounds. I told him it time to pull the head and find out the extent of the actual damage. The gasket was nonexistent between cylinders 4 and 5 no compression was getting into the coolant system. Oddly cylinder 4 had good compression. It was a automotive repair shop locally that told him it was an injector to begin with when he took his jeep there for an oil change
Over 90% of modern day people(customers) drive the engine while it's overheating or with low oil pressure until the car stops. If there is more classes to teach people about temp and pressure gauges like I had when I was learning as a military pilot to stop the engine when the gauges say RED, we as mechanics will have far less of these severe engine failures in our life. GEN Z is a big fail, this started in 1990's, 2024 it's far worse. RE, Gave the vid a like🤣
What do you expect kids today to do if there is something not right with their gauges? Pull over and have it towed and ruin their day? They don’t care about anything but themselves, so they will just run it until it dies and play victim.
Most people today aren’t taught these things anymore. People at my work think I’m crazy when I tell them I do my own oil changes and most tell me they wouldn’t even know where to start.
Dave and everyone there. You are doing great work. This youtube is almost better. The tips for cars are INVALUABLE. A blown motor is just about the most expensive repair. Except an off center medium impact that doesn't total it. My wife's highlander 2019 60k was running a bit hotter than usual. Not bad but noticeable. No smell. My wife was a former farmer and has seen a few blown motors. It was just a bit low on coolant. Topped it off and the temp went back down. Some vehicles tolerate a bit low, this one does not. If she didn't notice, i'm not the daily driver of it. It would have suffered maybe a similar fate. Subaru's hate low too. Over time it dries out at the top seam of the radiator and then forms crystals, i believe those circulate and then find it into the headgasket. Back in the day i think those gaskets were bad, mixed materials and low coolant. Ate through them faster than normal. Keep coolant up, change it every few years. Hoses too. Oh and that lake guy and the recommendation to add fuel additive. Has clearly given both our vehicles 1 to 2 MPG. What's up with that. 3 tanks through each vehicle and that's the paper calculated MPG change. Not computer told. that's always wrong. I think fuel used to have additive in it. Now it doesn't. I bet super barely has any. Lucas fuel additive is my choice. I trust their products. Prolong has saved a few vehicles back in the day too. Overheated boat motor too. Impeller was blown up from sucking in sand and pebbles. That stuff is cool but probably corrosive to mixed metals, I'm not sure. chlorinated paraffin's is the trick to their sauce. Not zinc.
Before I even heard Dave say he was a Christian, I could tell. The man does his best ALL the time, treats others with respect, tries to inform his customers, and does all this with humility. From a fellow brother in Christ, bravo sir. Thank you for doing what you do.
Dude, people can have integrity without god. Furthermore, anyone who tells you they are a “good Christian” is almost always a giant piece of shit. It literally means nothing.
@DBRising I assume you are a humanist then? Believing that all people are “basically good” by default? I would disagree. Everyone is evil by default, it takes an act of God (specifically being saved so you are inhabited by the Holy Spirit) to be capable of doing any good. I, by myself, am not capable of doing good. Apart from Christ, every act is selfish, even if outwardly it appears good.
Haa Hahaa true that mate I’m a 56 model “myself” as in age lol…I’m guessing we’re roughly about the same lol Many years ago “I’m no mechanic” but I’m mechanically minded…when ever I took my vehicle into a work shop I’d stand next to my mechanic whilst he’d work on my vehicle “watching vigilantly” which “back in those days” never bothered them In my own analysis of USE as Mechanics which we called back then…I definitely seen USE as SURGEONS Now to watch your awesome show has lit a fire under my “rear end” & has put a smile on my dial…knowing back then…I was definitely on the right path Seeing USE as SURGEONS…which to this day…I’m with you “110%” Keep up the good work “Dave” your a LEGEND mate…which your Sons/Grd/Grt Grt grandchildren will live on & aspire too…they’ll hv2 erect a status of you outside the front of your building Cheers Dave😜👍🏼💕
Oh wow A rover product that's complete terror for the customer's pocketbook? Say it ain't so! I still don't see how these are the number one selling car in the US.
The problem here is your dealing with a Range Rover owner. You already know they’re not that bright because they bought the car to begin with. The worst rated car you can buy I don’t understand why people buy them. I won’t even work on them at all you guys are brave lol I wouldn’t want to warranty something that didn’t even work good when it was new
That noise you imitated so well 😄, sounds like compression down on one cylinder. Just watched some more of the video, def got at least a blown head gasket !
From an old school mechanic. I would say thermostat housing/pipe failed first and it’s “🎼Good night Irene”🎼. Blew head gaskets and sever piston rings tension failure/pistons grabbing cylinder wall etc. Customer Owens the problem. Thanks for sharing all your experience though your work. Following from Sydney Australia.
Most people don't know their vehicle is overheating. I have explained this to a thousand husbands, calling their wife idiots. When u are driving and lose coolant rapidly,hose , water pump ect. The temp sensor has no contact with the coolant. Until block temperature is hot enough to set sensor of ,it's to late usually. Not really anyone's fault. Poop happens!
Completely agree. Maybe if you're driving slow in stop and go traffic you can smell or see coolant if you split a hose or one of those multitude of cheap plastic connections that all cars have decided to take a dump. Had a 4 cyl dodge K car back in the day. Driving 70 on interstate one day, had small coolant hose behind the engine split open. All the coolant was gone in seconds. I never saw any of the hot coolant or smelled it because of the speed I was going. Never noticed anything wrong until the motor locked up.
They did great to achieve that mileage on a Land Rover. It is now economically totaled so time to pay the bill for diagnosis, sell it for parts, and get a replacement vehicle.
Good work, really nice shop they've got going. Clean work ethics, proper reasoning, really nice! And the size of the shop, phew...In Germany that would be in a remotely sensible location either 25.000-50.000 in rent a month or a 5-10 million property. Crazy
