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2016 Buff Bagwell talks WWF/WCW and More 

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First I would like to say thank you to Rob Feinstein and RF Video for allowing me to post this Video of Buff Bagwell thank you so much appreciate it. This interview was done in 2016 Buff Bagwell talks about WWF/WCW/Scorpio/Jim Ross/End of WCW/Jarrett/Luger plus more. Credit Goes to Rob Feinstein and RF Video please don't repost this video. All Credit goes to rf Video

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@DarioDAversa
@DarioDAversa 5 лет назад
Here's the real problem: Vince McMahon didn't create Buff.
@bobbynorris.2878
@bobbynorris.2878 4 года назад
Gene Bone FACTS HE WAS A FLUNKY..
@JustAnotherMatt420
@JustAnotherMatt420 4 года назад
The real problem is he didnt want to fuck Vince. Just ask about Jim Helwig, Vince and a bearskin rug!
@eddiem1558
@eddiem1558 4 года назад
Buff is a shitty gimmick anyway better than The Genius though.
@LooseCan88
@LooseCan88 4 года назад
you may be right
@fjccommish
@fjccommish 4 года назад
Buff wasn't Vince's stuff.
@gannondeshong6937
@gannondeshong6937 7 лет назад
I wish WCW was still around. Man the late 90s was the best for wrestling. I was and still am all about WCW
@MrDivalover1
@MrDivalover1 6 лет назад
@gannon deshong love late 90's too! got ton old ecw wcw ppv tapes from 90's also play my old ecw wcw videogames for my ps2. also bought rise and fall wcw dvd also very best wcw Monday nitro 3 disc set fye summer 2011. buff is on very best of wcw Monday nitro 3 disc dvd set.
@CrusaderofLight1
@CrusaderofLight1 6 лет назад
Same here WCW was the best.
@clayp7284
@clayp7284 5 лет назад
LOVVVVVVED Nitro
@itoney517
@itoney517 5 лет назад
It was good until guys like nash and Russo got their hands on the book.
@Jlastinger88
@Jlastinger88 5 лет назад
80s were better
@sand9919
@sand9919 6 лет назад
Buff was and is still better than half the roster in the WWE now. Vince just refuses to put over most WCW guys
@doug.navarone2037
@doug.navarone2037 5 лет назад
Lol no. Vince nueters the talents creative juices. Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Randy Orton, all way better than Buff. I can go on and on
@jediabsolute7897
@jediabsolute7897 5 лет назад
Seriously? Buff Bagwell was mediocre in the ring at best.
@Stubbla
@Stubbla 5 лет назад
YES, IT WAS MORE THAN OBVIOUS
@priimovalentiino1640
@priimovalentiino1640 5 лет назад
Cmon bro.. That's a stretch... A lot of fun to watch.. A good worker...cuts great promos...but this is a fucking reach lol
@Jlastinger88
@Jlastinger88 5 лет назад
😂 Buff was garbage. Also his hat is stupid and he's annoying af for talking in 3rd person. The end.
@1223steffen
@1223steffen 4 года назад
Jim lost my respect
@samskyrider88
@samskyrider88 2 года назад
U realize he was just the messenger for vince mcmahon right? He has his job duties he has to do or he gets fired
@zk4au
@zk4au 2 года назад
at that time Buff was his own worst enemy. The other guys knew when to put up or shut up and Buff just couldn’t get it together then started a fight with helms. I would have fired him to.
@graciesweetin2742
@graciesweetin2742 5 лет назад
I have met Buff Bagwell and got to wear his hat
@James-th7wb
@James-th7wb 4 года назад
Buff daddy
@LaughingxClouds
@LaughingxClouds 4 года назад
Mark
@wokzilla
@wokzilla 3 года назад
thats how you get rona
@ARedMotorcycle
@ARedMotorcycle 2 года назад
@wokzilla I remember your name. You're the guy who uploaded the "Taco Bell Sells Crack" video. Very random to see you here. I miss that video. It's a shame it's not still up. That was funny as hell.
@Carlsbad1980
@Carlsbad1980 6 лет назад
Buff was too WCW
@NintendoPsycho
@NintendoPsycho 4 года назад
Actual pro wrestling.
@144church
@144church 7 лет назад
DDP seemed a little out of place in WWE to me but I thought Buff would've fit right in. I also wish WWE would've given Mike Awesome an opportunity I thought he had real potential and his in ring work was awesome.
@WCWFanForever
@WCWFanForever 7 лет назад
For Me Mike Awesome was Awesome LOL I really liked his 1st run in WCW The Career Killer. I hated when he became the 70's guys that gimmick was ok but it should have been for someone else not him then when he joined Team Canada I thought ok now their doing something right with him but WWE got WCW then it went down hill for him after that.
@144church
@144church 7 лет назад
I'll never forget some of those matches Mike had in ECW. He had strength, athleticism, balance and that was the first time I had ever seen a guy that big doing springboard plancha's.
@WCWFanForever
@WCWFanForever 7 лет назад
I know what you mean for me ECW is not in my Top 3 but I respect and will give them respect for what they have done for Wrestling for me the main reason why I watched ECW was for guys like RVD/Dreamer/Awesome/Storm/Raven/Saturn and a few others so to see Raven/Storm/Awesome/Saturn come to WCW was amazing. I feel out of all the 4 Lance Storm did the best then would be Raven the Saturn and finally Mike Awesome.
@144church
@144church 7 лет назад
If I could be serious for a minute......lol Lance was really good I watched ECW for all those guys you mentioned plus other's like the Dudley's, Sabu, Taz, Jerry Lynn, Kid Kash they had a really good roster. ECW is also the first place I saw Benoit, Malenko, Guerrero.
@WCWFanForever
@WCWFanForever 7 лет назад
I know what you mean I forgot about Lynn I was a fan of his too the Dudley's wear awesome I still feel they did really good in WWE Rhino was another along with Steven Corino Sabu wasn't bad either I met him but he wasn't that friendly that day LOL. I met Sabu/Rhino/Tommy Dreamer/Axel/Balls/Steve Corino/Tazz this was like if I remember right a month or 2 after he made his Debut in WWE he did an autograph signing I still have the picture of meeting him I got a signed picture plus he signed his WWE shirt at the time I did sell the shirt and picture years later tho LOL but at least I still have the picture of me and Tazz I should post it on Facebook one day.I will also never forget the last time Nitro was at the Nassau Coliseum as me and my friend wear walking in the hall way to go to are seats right in front of us was Midajah and Mike Awesome each talking to an Agent I remember screaming Mike he looked and waved plus I got to touch Midajah which for me at the Time was like Heaven because I was in love with her I also met Sandman/Raven and a few others.
@georgescroggins6818
@georgescroggins6818 6 лет назад
WWE screwed WCW. Period.
@Lgp606
@Lgp606 5 лет назад
WWE screwed WCW talent when they came in. WCW screwed WCW the business.
@hiphopguru81
@hiphopguru81 5 лет назад
George Scroggins Wcw was bought for the very fact they were in shambles and lame
@Z-54294
@Z-54294 4 года назад
@@hiphopguru81 Don't want to get into a big fight but you need to do more research because its been proven that it was doing very well at the end.WWE is on life support with the ratings they been getting WCW never even hit that low like WWE. If your listening to morons like Dave Meltzers then stop because hes been proven to be a fraud. So many people have put him in his place about WCW and everything else that hes been wrong about. One more thing Vince owns WWE WCW was owned by a company that hated wrestling and felt people who watched it are morons. Those losers are gone that's why AEW is on there which gets horrible ratings it self.In a nut shell you buy WCW your fucking done wrestling is dead ok its dead.
@hiphopguru81
@hiphopguru81 4 года назад
Zenk things doing well dont get sold.
@Z-54294
@Z-54294 4 года назад
@@hiphopguru81 Yea Ok I just told you they didnt' want wrestling try again do some research they wear gettings 3 WWE is getting less then 1.
@StarCityAudits
@StarCityAudits 7 лет назад
"..and they HAD A FUCKING ANSWER for that too!" LOL !
@freebachelor5060
@freebachelor5060 3 месяца назад
This whole shoot had me dying in laughter from beginning to end
@scottnapier943
@scottnapier943 4 года назад
The mid to late 90s was such an awesome time to be a Wrestling fan. The Monday night Wars will never be bettered. Buff was great in WCW, looked amazing, great name, gimmick, a decent worker with a good finisher. It's a damn shame he broke his neck, took away all his momentum. Vince totally messed up The Invasion angle, it could have been the greatest angle of all time, Damn shame!
@brokewayne4528
@brokewayne4528 Год назад
It literally could've been him vs. Angle
@ghostvalley6786
@ghostvalley6786 7 лет назад
Jim Ross try to act like he's all innocent and a victim it's like please man up and tell the world what you did.
@thechefmike
@thechefmike 6 лет назад
JR I mean honestly he does shit for money, his start in the WWF was like being fired 2 times and come back, fired several times and come back all his career, why? He wanted the money, sure he loves the business but he knows the only place tat would pay him the most was WWE thats why he keeps going back. If I were treated the way JR was treated I wouldnt give a fuck about that money, he was good enough to get huge amounts in Japan for decades if he wanted doing english play by play
@therealogre765
@therealogre765 6 лет назад
He's a pathetic man. Karma got him for his lies. His own boss made him his bitch and not to mention his face. Buff you are a legend and deserve to be in the WWE Hall of Fame as a member of nWo.
@sonicthekid249
@sonicthekid249 5 лет назад
@@thechefmike clearly he does anything for money. I mean he kissed vinces ass
@terrytummons8898
@terrytummons8898 4 года назад
Palsy face deserves every thing he has been given lol
@frizzyred1292
@frizzyred1292 4 года назад
@@thechefmike He is all about the money, J.R. If you ever listen to his podcasts its something he always brings up at times. Cant really blame him but he is all about the dollar.
@WhatAboutall
@WhatAboutall 6 лет назад
Buff Bagwell goes off at 12:50 and rightfully so, JR is lying at the very least about not burying Buff because he did it on the Legends of Wrestling round-table on WWE 24/7. JR may be well liked, but doesn't mean he wasn't a piece of shit to someone.
@bigogarland7325
@bigogarland7325 6 лет назад
JR also said it on Raw.
@madamefeast4824
@madamefeast4824 4 года назад
He said it. I was a fan at the time.
@hotelalphawhiskeykilogrunt7925
@hotelalphawhiskeykilogrunt7925 4 года назад
He’d whip buffs ass Jim is tougher than a 2$ Waffle House steak buffs mommy called like a bitch she is crying that buff got beat up in training and Jim fired his ass told him go to the indies and rassle for peanuts
@madamefeast4824
@madamefeast4824 4 года назад
@@hotelalphawhiskeykilogrunt7925 lol. Buff is a bitch. And a baby. Jim indeed said what he claims. But... Who cares? Haha. Everyone believes it happened because of the huge deal buff made out of it
@pauldonnelly3179
@pauldonnelly3179 3 года назад
@@hotelalphawhiskeykilogrunt7925 Buff would kill JR's fat ass in a fight LOL
@snoopdog3771
@snoopdog3771 5 лет назад
I feel bad for Bagwell he seems so nice and down to earth for WWE to not give him a chance. Bagwell was so much better than Tyler Breeze and Fandango.
@amccar27
@amccar27 5 лет назад
But he was A HORRIBLE WRESTLER! HE WAS NEVER A MAIN EVENTER! MORE LIKE A FIRST OR SECOND MATCH AT BEST! HE SUCKED! THE ONLY WAY HE WAS CLOSE TO A MAIN EVENTER WAS IF HE WAS ESCORTING SCOTT STEINER!!! HE SUCKED!!!!!
@TheWelshAmerican
@TheWelshAmerican 4 года назад
@@amccar27 not all about in ring work. He would be top star with the guys around now. 90s roster very true mid card talent with potential to grow too had so much charisma and personality and had a crowd reaction too. Buff was a misused talent.
@blimy01maynard30
@blimy01maynard30 4 года назад
@@amccar27 he was not a horrible wrestler. maybe he wasn't going to be main eventing wrestlemania, but so what? plenty of wrestlers haven't main evented and have been around for ever. until recently kofi kingston has been in the WWE for 15 years. heath slater hasn't main evented a house show and he is still around. YOUR COMMENT SUCKS!!!!
@slayermill8621
@slayermill8621 4 года назад
Without legit competition breathing down his neck Vince doesn't know what to do anymore. Everything about the WWE is awful from top to bottom minus the talent. He has legit talent, he just doesn't know what to do with it.
@NintendoPsycho
@NintendoPsycho 4 года назад
@@amccar27 Still better than wwe's roster...
@pellel8283
@pellel8283 4 года назад
With his voice tone, he sounds like Steve-o...A JACKED Steve-o
@davidruble7699
@davidruble7699 4 года назад
Buffs story hasn’t changed s but in all these years and that’s one big reason I do believe this happened just the way he tells it
@Mashmarriner69
@Mashmarriner69 3 года назад
And that's the reason I don't believe him. 🤣.
@anon2414
@anon2414 11 месяцев назад
Changing up a lie is overrated...he does sound genuine
@haraldrauppraupp1761
@haraldrauppraupp1761 6 месяцев назад
Theres Buff side, Theres Jim Ross side... And in the middle is the Truth
@jimmyplenderleith9471
@jimmyplenderleith9471 16 дней назад
The fact that Buff's story hasnt changed before and after his issues with drugs lends some real credence to his story.
@skudzer1985
@skudzer1985 5 лет назад
I always liked Buff. He had a great physique and face. It's a shame it didn't work out.
@MoneyOverFame
@MoneyOverFame 5 лет назад
Yea very likeable guy. Had the look and everything
@makubegysman6160
@makubegysman6160 4 года назад
I dont
@horsecockexpress7612
@horsecockexpress7612 Год назад
@@makubegysman6160 i loved to hate this guy. Matches were completely boring as well as his entire persona. No wrestling talent either
@murraysaucedo897
@murraysaucedo897 6 месяцев назад
He wasn’t a good worker though.
@NameLess-ks4fi
@NameLess-ks4fi 4 года назад
For real though, Buff seems like a good fucking dude.
@ADG.Est.1988
@ADG.Est.1988 4 года назад
Im reading some comments and i must. Chime in. There are dozens of wrestlers who were shit in the ring that made great money. Buff was decent In the ring. Had a good finisher with a.great name. After the American males the buff bagwell gimmick worked. And he was over. He didn't get didn't a push so we could see how high his ceiling was. Buff would addded star power to the invasion angle. Instead we had guys from wwf that had been there for years waffling between the brands. It was lame
@melbias5046
@melbias5046 4 года назад
Do any of these guys have a game plan once their career is over? A lot have had big problems after wrestling
@TheProphegy
@TheProphegy 2 года назад
$5000 a month rent, DAMN. That’s 20 years ago too.
@ssuzaif7651
@ssuzaif7651 5 лет назад
Poor Marcus Alexander Bagwell is the only well known WCW mid carder to not have given fair and enough opportunity in WWF/WWE. They Screwed Him Up.
@djmonstrosity6971
@djmonstrosity6971 7 лет назад
Some guys were still contracted to WCW well into 2003. Goldberg, Stevie Ray, Vampiro and Shawn Stasiak (who took a buyout instead of getting paid to do nothing ) being four of them. Flair was another one who had a guaranteed contract until 2003 but he took a buyout and feuded with Vince instead. Goldberg made $6 million sitting on his ass for two years the lucky sob.
@allencollins1617
@allencollins1617 5 лет назад
Yeah.
@themeanestofgenes2409
@themeanestofgenes2409 5 лет назад
@Vic Crown I think Flair would of been 52 when he came back in 2001.
@SRPC21
@SRPC21 5 лет назад
Shawn Stasiak was in the wwe during the invasion angle. You made a mistake there
@allencollins1617
@allencollins1617 5 лет назад
And Ric Flair Came In The Night After The Invasion Angle. What If Ric Flair Was There During The Invasion. Ric Flair & DDP As WCW Top Stars. That's Like Mick Foley & Pat Patterson Or Gerald Brisco As WWE Top Stars During The Invasion If WCW Won The Monday Night Wars. And If WCW Had All Their Top Stars, All Maybe Except Roddy Piper & Bret Hart Or Even Randy Savage. Picture Mick Foley & Pat Patterson Taking On Guys In Matches Like Hulk Hogan, Sting, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Goldberg, Lex Luger & Sid Vicious. If Ric Flair & DDP Had To Take On In Matches, Steve Austin, The Rock, The Undertaker, Kane, HHH & The Big Show. A One-sided & Lop-sided Angle.
@russellbarlow1796
@russellbarlow1796 2 года назад
Well to work he would of made significantly less money so he just chose to sit it out wise decision
@joseaguilera6355
@joseaguilera6355 7 лет назад
so buff was making $360 thousand in wcw dang that's phenomenal money
@MrDivalover1
@MrDivalover1 6 лет назад
@jose Aguilera he was in wcw when wcw was beating then wwf in tv ratings pro wrestling had it last boom. buff was household name as don tony said 2015 podcast buff had great career in wcw. does independent bookings atm saw him wrestle samoa joe when joe was in tna turner hall bingo hall 250 people w.73th street Cleveland all pro promotion Cleveland, ohio in 2005. he sign autograph for me ton of people nice guy. also wrestle ethan paige aiw 2016 in church Cleveland, ohio two yrs ago still good shape.
@youtubeadmin1588
@youtubeadmin1588 4 года назад
Jose Aguilera pretty sure he said $750k per year.
@tysoncarpenter8628
@tysoncarpenter8628 4 года назад
I thought he said 750000 ?? Lol
@420jamamaw
@420jamamaw 4 года назад
Yeah he said 750k. He had wcw paying him almost a million a year.
@Dippchit1
@Dippchit1 4 года назад
Too much money for someone who couldnt wrestle
@RubberClits
@RubberClits 4 года назад
I agree with Buff Bagwell. And I feel like he would've been awesome as even an Intercontinental Champion after the invasion angle was over.
@ghostfac3182
@ghostfac3182 6 лет назад
Vince would never put wcw over
@JoeyMartz
@JoeyMartz 6 лет назад
Gannon DeShong - booker t? What nonsense are you spewing.
@MrDivalover1
@MrDivalover1 6 лет назад
@joeph Martinez yeah booker t, rey jr, torrie Wilson and stacy keibler had decent careers in wwf/E stacy as manager valet for wwf tag champs Dudley boyz test and stenier, also world tag champs hurricane and rosey. also chuck palumbo had decent career in wwe with billy gunn as billy and chuck two time wwe tag champion member fbi. billy kidman had decent career tag team champion cruiserweight champion beating Jamie noble 02 survivor series. he is producer also was trainer down in nxt.
@peteandrepete528
@peteandrepete528 4 года назад
It's too bad but they did try to put him out of business.According to some they almost succeeded.Vince should have took WCW and ECW and combined them together and make another wrestling promotion like NXT . I think it would have done well.May even still be around.
@generalkayoss7347
@generalkayoss7347 4 года назад
It cost Vince a lot of money in the end. He could have made another fortune off the invasion angle had he wanted it to work. But nooooo, he had to bury DDP in that stupid stalker angle and fire Buff. He could have bought out the AOL/Time Warner contracts of the big name guys like Goldberg, Sting, Steiner, Luger etc and put on the fantasy matches we had all wanted to see for the previous decade. He would have made back the cost of those contracts plus a ton more! 20 years later and I still feel cheated!!!
@thechefmike
@thechefmike 6 лет назад
its sad that he couldve just sat at home, with ALL THE MONEY for the remainder of his contract but instead wanted to work and did when called and took a cut AND got fired I wouldve taken the money like Sting, he did ery well never going there till the very end, he was right every WCW guy was going to get fucked for the simple fact they happened to collect a paycheck and do a job like everyone else, its fucked
@priimovalentiino1640
@priimovalentiino1640 5 лет назад
He had a few months on his wcw contract remaining.. And wanted to prove his worth
@furnitureconsortium
@furnitureconsortium 4 года назад
There was only two months left on his deal (about $60,000 as he stated) and he forfeited that money to sign with Vince. As Buff mentioned, he had no leverage and he couldn't get a buyout from Turner as there was so little time left on his deal. Booker and DDP did the same thing except they took early buyouts from Turner to free themselves to sign with WWE as they both still had a lot of time left on their Turner deals. Some of the guys just sat back and collected all of their money and let the Turner contract run out before looking elsewhere for work.
@MrBlack252
@MrBlack252 4 года назад
They tricked him so he didn't get that money. they tried doing it to Luger and Steiner but they knew because they worked for Vince before
@GamezOfWar
@GamezOfWar 4 года назад
Vrutnnkk my
@slayermill8621
@slayermill8621 4 года назад
According to Sting there was another reason for him not signing with WWE. I remember seeing an interview with Sting where he said he watched the episode when the invasion angle first kicked off. Wrestlers from WCW and WWE got in the ring and fought it out. Left in the ring at the end was just The Rock and Booker T. Sting said he could see The Rock say "Who are you?" to Booker T which Sting found incredibly disrespectful. Sting said The Rock legitimately had no idea who an icon like Booker T was. That was something that bothered Sting and made him want nothing to do with the WWE. Like you wrote, he knew Vince was going to bone all the WCW guys which he promptly did.
@TobeyStarburst
@TobeyStarburst 6 лет назад
Buff was a huge star in WCW could have been huge in WWF.
@michaelmacdonald880
@michaelmacdonald880 5 лет назад
@liukangstoupee sorry but no one except john cena in wwe has drawn a dine since attitude era....#facts
@Iconhulk
@Iconhulk 5 лет назад
WWE was STILL JEALOUS OF WCW/nWo
@Idkwhattoput-p2s
@Idkwhattoput-p2s 5 лет назад
@@michaelmacdonald880 Not even close to being true. But okay.
@NintendoPsycho
@NintendoPsycho 4 года назад
@liukangstoupee Speaking of not drawing dimes...
@alwilson3204
@alwilson3204 2 года назад
Truth is, Bagwell was more of a midcarder
@grantgibson8189
@grantgibson8189 5 лет назад
always thought buff was an average wrestler with tons of charisma and decent promo guy. but drew a crowd reaction, still better than Konnan and "the cat" who both suck in my opinion
@slayermill8621
@slayermill8621 4 года назад
The Cat was a legit martial artist but lackluster as a wrestler with an even worse gimmick. The only time I think anyone ever liked Konnan was when he was with the Wolfpac, and only because he was a member of the Wolfpac. I saw a recent Konnan interview and boy does that guy have an incredibly inflated view of himself and his run in WCW. He basically claims to be the king of the luchadors and the WCW was a racist organization. The guy is a complete tool box.
@mattgreen2559
@mattgreen2559 4 года назад
@@slayermill8621 I agree that most people could care less for Konnan. He does have a big opinion of himself but he has some right to be. Just for all he did in Mexico. He was big shit there. He was like the Mexican Hogan, but nobody here in the states cared. His gimmick never really got over. If he didn't run with the WolfPack he would never have been over.
@MrBigbenny23
@MrBigbenny23 5 лет назад
the wcw wrestlers got screwed,period.
@slayermill8621
@slayermill8621 4 года назад
Vince took pleasure in burying every one of them because of the Monday night wars. Vince is incredibly petty and vindictive.
@slayermill8621
@slayermill8621 4 года назад
@Tim Yeah a whoppin two guys out of an entire roster of wrestlers. Vince really took a liking to those WCW guys.
@TMK8908
@TMK8908 3 года назад
@@slayermill8621 bull. Then explain why Hunter went over against a legend like Sting at WM 31
@shitsonbitchnova4917
@shitsonbitchnova4917 5 лет назад
I can tell Buff was going to be loyal to the WWE or WWF ar the time. They screwed Buff.
@el84oro
@el84oro 5 лет назад
wcw spoiled a lot of talent. you got guys making a shit ton of money for half ass work. when they got to wwe where they wasn't splashing that kind of money and being more demanding they were already used to the spoilt lifestyle at wcw. same thing happened with hall. wcw was throwing cash to wrestlers for terrible finishes and too many unnecessary backstage segments
@madamefeast4824
@madamefeast4824 3 года назад
Lol, old comment but I love your name and photo. I love seeing fans who also swim in the piss waters of Lake Cresva. Order 66!
@PNN_ParodyNewsNetwork
@PNN_ParodyNewsNetwork 2 года назад
Sickening
@PNN_ParodyNewsNetwork
@PNN_ParodyNewsNetwork 2 года назад
Order 66
@garyk6079
@garyk6079 7 лет назад
He's a nice southern cat...... best of luck in his future endeavors
@clayp7284
@clayp7284 5 лет назад
Bagwell vs Benoit would've been a great WWF feud
@johnreeveswilliamson7228
@johnreeveswilliamson7228 3 года назад
Benoit would have destroyed Bagwell.
@macho3866
@macho3866 5 лет назад
I think Vince missed out on this one
@kewinmorales6834
@kewinmorales6834 4 года назад
Did he ever! He SUPER missed out......
@macho3866
@macho3866 4 года назад
@Jay Reisnek to me he was great with Steiner and I think if there were at least have brought him back when they brought back the NWO would have been something special I could tell your wrestling fan what do you think about that
@NintendoPsycho
@NintendoPsycho 4 года назад
@Jay Reisnek you suck jay
@NintendoPsycho
@NintendoPsycho 4 года назад
@Jay Reisnek Your man wishes you were a real man.
@beavis8167
@beavis8167 4 года назад
WCW FOR LIFE. Vince crushed a lot of people that came from WCW cuz he hated it. But what Vince forgets is 90% of the wrestlers came from WCW before he bought them out.
@MrBeezyb88
@MrBeezyb88 7 лет назад
Much love to Buff
@wrestlingrocks1988
@wrestlingrocks1988 7 лет назад
Buff is awesome
@wilhelmfriedrichi3865
@wilhelmfriedrichi3865 6 лет назад
wrestlingrocks1988 buff sucks
@MrBlack252
@MrBlack252 4 года назад
1. Buff should've jumped ship when he was courted by Vince 6 months prior. 2. Saying you saved Vince 80 grand is like telling the dude you borrowed money from, "you know what bro, just go ahead and send me 5 instead of 10 that way I save you 5 bucks" when you owe him 20 already. 3. It's 100 percent true that his mom called.
@bigbrycm6
@bigbrycm6 4 года назад
Mr. Black agreed. There were red flags WCW was going south before then
@johnhagner8113
@johnhagner8113 2 года назад
Can you explain your thought process in 2. Vince had to make good on the contracts he bought when we bought WCW so bagel signing on and not holding him to that would be saving him 80K.
@traviskarnes6825
@traviskarnes6825 Год назад
@@bigbrycm6 Yeah I've always found the last two years of WCW to be one of the most interesting periods in modern wrestling was quite a time indeed.
@youtubeadmin1588
@youtubeadmin1588 4 года назад
“$175,000, can you do a little better Vince?” “Alright $225,000-$250,000 counting insentives, cool” “Vince you don’t have to pay me last two months of my old deal, which is 60-80,000” 250,000 - 80,000 = $170,000 Great job Buff.
@rik8556
@rik8556 4 года назад
I seriously thought these people earned millions.
@youtubeadmin1588
@youtubeadmin1588 4 года назад
Rikster 85 plenty of guys did. WWF offering buff $175,000 is basically a minimum wage contract in 2001.
@fredspofford
@fredspofford 4 года назад
He was trying to be a good dude and buy brownie points by not causing a headache but WWE still screwed him.
@deansley174
@deansley174 4 года назад
🤣🤣🤣
@KB-hh8rt
@KB-hh8rt 4 года назад
@@fredspofford Yeah Buff should have looked out for himself better and took the money.
@TheJames-Edward
@TheJames-Edward 7 лет назад
I would love to have seen Buff wrestle some of the WWE guys back when it was WWF during the Invasion.
@SRPC21
@SRPC21 5 лет назад
I think they would’ve just buried him though (like they did with DDP)
@daleslover2771
@daleslover2771 6 лет назад
That's some pretty slimeball s*** Drive-on buff, hell of an Entertainer and hell of a wrestler
@matthewalkman3735
@matthewalkman3735 3 года назад
WCW has such good production too. WwF seemed more official but WCW seemed more “fun”. A mix of backyard feel with professionalism
@jace8129
@jace8129 7 лет назад
lol Buff is still wearing the same hat since 98'
@stuartjambo8541
@stuartjambo8541 7 лет назад
didn't somebody fuck that one up or shit in it or something in WWE, JBL springs to mind possibly.
@coreyshelp7241
@coreyshelp7241 5 лет назад
Thats a cool hat...coolest hat ever maybe...
@C.I.A.Retired
@C.I.A.Retired 4 года назад
@83rdox didnt have a real gimmick? Your not to bright huh?
@420jamamaw
@420jamamaw 4 года назад
Those hats are expensive
@rsb512
@rsb512 5 лет назад
Why didn't TNA ever sign Buff Bagwell? He was over with the fans in WCW, had great mic skills, could wrestle and looked great. And when WWE fired him he was still pretty young probably not even 30 yet. The demise of Buff Bagwells pro wrestling career is one of the most puzzling I've ever seen. It's so sad. And it's sad to see him still so bitter especially at good ole JR. But I can't blame him. WWE royally screwed up on not making this guy a star and their company making only a quarter million dollars a year down from the three-quarters of a million dollars a year he was making in WCW. WWE also screwed up Scott Steiner's run in the early 2000s when he should have been champion and the top heel.
@traviskarnes6825
@traviskarnes6825 4 года назад
I've always thought the same he could have really good run in TNA especially in the very early years when they were looking and needing star power.
@Z-54294
@Z-54294 4 года назад
Such a shame what happen to Buff this is why WWE is in the crapper screw them. You don't buy your competition and think your going to continue to make money because ever since then it went in the decline yet people still try to argue they still make money no they dont.No fans 0.1 rating Xfl going out of business again I hope Disney really buys them.
@jasonvoorhees6416
@jasonvoorhees6416 5 лет назад
He still could of worked tna or Japan. Wwe sucks anyway it’s embarrassing to even watch
@mrgreenland21
@mrgreenland21 7 лет назад
Buff took the mask off and shot hard on Ross! Lmao Good for you brother
@themidtenairbear9426
@themidtenairbear9426 5 лет назад
The invasion sucked Buff would have been a good heel
@DocYAYAYA
@DocYAYAYA 3 года назад
WCW had so many personalities back in the 90s... the roster was stacked
@aliamjon2550
@aliamjon2550 2 года назад
And they were paid well
@IBroLLyISePhIrOtH
@IBroLLyISePhIrOtH 5 лет назад
First I would like to say thank you to Rob Feinstein and RF Video for allowing me to post this Video of Buff Bagwell thank you so much appreciate it. This shoot was done in 2016 Buff Bagwell talks about WWF/WCW/Scorpio/Jim Ross/End of WCW/Jarrett/Luger plus more.
@danadabrowski1936
@danadabrowski1936 5 лет назад
WWF buried Bagwell intentionally even though he was being a team player what bull shit .
@Romer318
@Romer318 5 лет назад
Lol at the marks crying over Buff. Dude was average at best and people act like he was the end all, be all. Go rewatch that Booker T match, it wasn't terrible but he obviously had no fucking clue what to do. Following Austin and Angle around like a lost puppy.
@KingofNewark
@KingofNewark 4 года назад
Why didn't Buff go to TNA? He made a few appearances but never really had a run there.
@Z-54294
@Z-54294 4 года назад
Good question very stupid on TNAs part they could have used a lot of the WCW stars they missed the boat on that very dumb on them.
@mikes.4136
@mikes.4136 Год назад
I never understood the whole, Bagwell’s mother controversy. It doesn’t make sense that she would call the WWE on behalf of her son - I mean come on. I always found Bagwell to be an entertaining performer and he seemed like he would be a good fit for the WWE. It does seem like he had a lot of enemies in WWE management.
@giovannirivers242
@giovannirivers242 6 лет назад
I was there in the stadium on April 9th 1994 in St maarten. That's where I'm from. You guys had a match with the nasty boys
@Jayce_Alexander
@Jayce_Alexander 4 года назад
Say about Buff what you will, he may not have been a Bret Hart or a Shawn Michaels on a technical level, but he was entertaining as hell, and over with the WCW audience. His time with Scott Steiner, both as partners and rivals, resulted in some of the best and most memorable moments of WCW's history, and if WWE had not spent the past 19 years burying WCW these segments would have been just as iconic as DX's antics today. It seems the only facet of WCW that WWE has not tried to bury is the NWO, but only because that was simply too big to bury, so Vince decided to try and profit from it, and revive it several times. The fact that Vince bought WCW only to run it further into the ground shows you what a spiteful psychopath the man is.
@possiblyinsane6995
@possiblyinsane6995 2 года назад
he needed somebody, he was nothing on his own
@antoni.guzman
@antoni.guzman 4 года назад
I saw that Legends round table that he’s talking about and he’s right JR did buried him, they all did to basically anyone who didn’t kiss Vince’s ass and wasn’t their creation
@MattySadler
@MattySadler 7 лет назад
I want to hear this God guy's side of the story
@arkansasgreg
@arkansasgreg 5 лет назад
$175K a year and I have to sell everything....lmbo!!!!
@TheBoggieknight
@TheBoggieknight 5 лет назад
Just goes to show how messed up WCW was and overpaid everyone
@KB-hh8rt
@KB-hh8rt 4 года назад
@@TheBoggieknight Lmao it's the same thing WWE has been doing to keep talent from gointg to AEW.
@YOYOBadmojoJOJO
@YOYOBadmojoJOJO 4 года назад
The Time Warner/aol executives where the real Disaster for WCW... they aren't everyday, level headed, blue collar people. They despise the culture of wrestling and all the fans that are part of it and think its a national disgrace, fit only for the low class and the ignorant. The only reason they sold WCW only to Vince was with the condition that the company was to be totally liquidized, which Vince had NO problem doing. There was even a falling out with Shane over this because he thought he was going to be given the permission to run it and thought WCW being out of the picture was going to be bad overall for WWE...which he was right....
@ivanvalentin3898
@ivanvalentin3898 2 года назад
Shane is a genius and more down to than any wealthy person I've seen.
@canibisrelaxation7666
@canibisrelaxation7666 6 лет назад
Buff the stuff... one of wcws best in my opinion... next to booker t.. life long wwe. Or Wwf fan .. but they missed out not keeping buff imagine the history he coulda made
@maxdecphoenix
@maxdecphoenix 5 лет назад
That must be a fucking insane contract WWE has if they can shitcan you after a week and not have to pay you anything. I mean god damn. Vince buys WCW with Buff having two months left. Buff accepts a new contract for way less, then says 'you don't even have to pay the last two months (buy-out) and then they shit can him a few days later? How the hell? I mean, you make the guy take a pay cut, then you get a crazy bonus by not actually having to pay for his buy-out screwing the guy out of 60~80k, fire him a few days later. That's just insane to me.
@fuscinula
@fuscinula 7 лет назад
His voice somewhat reminds me of Jamie Dundee's.
@SRPC21
@SRPC21 3 года назад
He was a bit unlucky; the roster was jam packed so the WWE didn’t need him and he didn’t really have anywhere else to go. The timing of the wcw buyout didn’t work out for him either
@gannondeshong6937
@gannondeshong6937 7 лет назад
I know why WCW went under. Secretly Vince worked for AOL lol
@SmithCommaBenjamin
@SmithCommaBenjamin 6 лет назад
Truth probably is, he was fired because he was on drugs, steroids, and was a "WCW guy"
@noetoledo8501
@noetoledo8501 4 года назад
Gee I guess John Cena, HHH, only eat fruity pebbles and pass their drug test.
@NintendoPsycho
@NintendoPsycho 4 года назад
Another mark who knows shit all.
@Jabranalibabry
@Jabranalibabry 4 года назад
Buff was insanely entertaining. Thank you for everything, you always had the stuff!
@stevewhitney7037
@stevewhitney7037 4 года назад
Buff should have been world champion. The. Whole mom thing is bullshit
@NYCHeckler
@NYCHeckler 7 лет назад
Hear They fired a Buff Bagwell because he refers to himself as A Buff Bagwell
@cappy2282
@cappy2282 4 года назад
Lol that's funny tho. I mean, it sucks he's being dead serious...but it's cool and I would pay to watch him wrestle
@DemonDriver31
@DemonDriver31 3 года назад
The rock calls himself in 3rd person.
@buddyholly5716
@buddyholly5716 7 лет назад
lmfao this shoot interview is so much different from the one he did in 2001 here hes angry and bitter asf,i dont blame him though
@Sammo212
@Sammo212 4 года назад
I like JR but he acts as though he was ALWAYS the innocent, well meaning person in every single issue that's talked about...in the wrestling industry that seems impossible.
@zackraynor5156
@zackraynor5156 2 года назад
Does Buff Bagwell know he ruined his own career by wearing those hats.
@cherrydonner5298
@cherrydonner5298 5 лет назад
I love Buff Bagwell he belittled Jim
@jonathanturbide2232
@jonathanturbide2232 7 лет назад
I stopped watching right at the beginning when he said WWE made no promises to him. Buff was OK but he was a one trick pony, not megastar material. Particularly not at that time when WWF had a stacked roster.
@MrDivalover1
@MrDivalover1 6 лет назад
@jonathan turbide maybe not main event material. he could have been good solid midcarder in wwe as he was in wcw. since he was midcarder former 5 time wcw tag team champion in wcw with scropio, patriot, riggs, francise shane douglas total package lex luger in wcw. as don tony said in 2015 podcast buff had great career in wcw.
@fredspofford
@fredspofford 4 года назад
He had the It factor for sure though. He shows more charisma in this interview alone then all of WWE has shown in the last decade.
@ryanarnold8285
@ryanarnold8285 Год назад
💯 Real Problem Is Buff Bagwell Is A Delusional Narcissist Cuz Honestly He Was Not A Big Wrestling Star Like He Keeps Trying 2 Convince Himself And Lots Of Others He Needs To Accept That He Was Just A Bright Light On Top Of Mid Card
@PavyMac
@PavyMac 4 года назад
Great Interview, I’ve always been indifferent to Buff as a person but always thought he had great ring skills but after this interview I definitely respect him more as a person. Some of his choices (like em or not) make a lot of sense now and honestly no one can judge how someone makes a living as long as they aren’t hurting anyone. In my humble opinion he sounds truthful in most of what he’s saying.
@guyinacoffeeshop2239
@guyinacoffeeshop2239 4 года назад
Wow Bagwell was making 750k a year with all expenses paid? And in 1995 Bret Hart was the 450k WWF champion and paid for his own travel expenses! All the WWF guys paid their own expenses. Wow Hall and Nash really did change the business. Bret was making 450k as the champion and Hall aka Razor got an offer from Bischoff for 1.2 mil and had a clause in his contract that if WCW hired anyone for more than 1.2 (Nash) then Hall would get paid the same as him Dang no wonder Vince won and Yes Turner lost. Those wce guys were getting paid!!!
@WCWFanForever
@WCWFanForever 4 года назад
That has nothing to do with why they got sold because WWE has paid people way more on top of that Ted Turner has/had a lot of money.
@guyinacoffeeshop2239
@guyinacoffeeshop2239 4 года назад
@@WCWFanForever Back in 95 , Vince was known for not paying his wrestlers very much . And no health insurance and they had to pay their own travel expenses. and if you were a mid or low card WWF guy you were basically getting paid nothing. In WCW the mid-to-low card guys got paid very well
@WCWFanForever
@WCWFanForever 4 года назад
@@guyinacoffeeshop2239 That was 1995 and some Wrestlers wear making money like Undertaker no Wrestling company pays for insurance in 1996-present they get paid way too much in WWE. WCW being sold is why Wrestling is in the shape it's because it was making money at the end of 2000-2001. Hogan was gone along with others so a lot of money was saved and for anyone to think its better to have one company they don't know what they're talking about that's like saying only one car dealership or one fast food place no.
@guyinacoffeeshop2239
@guyinacoffeeshop2239 4 года назад
@@WCWFanForever what do you think about AEW
@SlapChop1000
@SlapChop1000 3 года назад
*WCW 1990's changed wrestling forever and was also the last of the good days before it all died*
@foreverunsaved6661
@foreverunsaved6661 7 месяцев назад
I remember when i heard Buff got canned from WWE. My first thought was that he wouldn't have any trouble finding work as a wrestler elsewhere- but he did. As far as Jim Ross goes, there was something really disturbing about him. When doing commentary on Dr. Death Steve Williams, his commentary, was boardering on manlove. Years later, JRs commentary on Stone Cold Steve Austin was boarderlining on the same kind of manlove. What makes this disturbing is that Austins real name is Steve Williams. Makes you wonder about JR
@dgb921
@dgb921 6 лет назад
Yea the mid carders made way to much money
@MrNwmnmtt
@MrNwmnmtt Год назад
This guy arrogance is astonishing if he felt this way while during this interview I can't imagine how arrogant he was in wwe. Funny thing is his career flatlined After wwe I mean he didn't put any work in afterwards no TNA, New Japan wrestling, all Japan wrestling, CMLL, AAA or Ring of honor. If he was as great as he said he was then you would have seen him all over the world but nope its JIM Ross's fault. If you truly were at the prime of your life then you should have put the work in the other wrestling company to get WWE attention look what AJ Styles did but nope it's Jim's fault oh please wcw ruined your life paying you $750,000 and making you believe that you were one of the big stars. If you truly were one the big stars of wcw maybe that's why they went out of business. My buff move on forgive jim
@keyboardwarrior9060
@keyboardwarrior9060 5 лет назад
I've never liked Jim Ross. I can read people real well and it's stuff like this that proves it lol
@hiphopguru81
@hiphopguru81 5 лет назад
KeyboardWarrior 90 ummmm.....no
@whatspadethinks
@whatspadethinks 4 года назад
Really? Well, we have something in common; I can read people real well too and you're a fucking ignorant asshole. See how that works to judge people you've never met before K.W.? 🖕🏻
@bigroaststyrone8135
@bigroaststyrone8135 4 года назад
What I’m seeing here is you Calling someone an ignorant asshole because he doesn’t like someone you like
@terrytummons8898
@terrytummons8898 4 года назад
Me too
@slayermill8621
@slayermill8621 4 года назад
Wrestling promotor's sort of have to be scum bags. There's a reason the Jim Cornette's, Vince McMahon's, and Paul Heyman's, of the world thrive in the wrestling business. They're dealing with a bunch of wrestlers who are often times narcissistic, neurotic, glory seekers, substance abusers, or all of the above. You have to be a certain kind of person to deal with those personalities regularly. Basically you have to be a sociopath which all the aforementioned people are.
@delljr2769
@delljr2769 Год назад
If this is 2016 Buff is 46 here, he could had easily wrestled up to 2010-2012 and had good matches with Cena.
@matthewjon3772
@matthewjon3772 5 лет назад
Jindrak and O'Hare were the tag champs at the time, not lugar and bagwell.
@DefLeppardVanHalen
@DefLeppardVanHalen 5 лет назад
Actually, it was Chuck Palumbo and Sean O'Haire.
@simonbrown3378
@simonbrown3378 2 года назад
They waterdown DDP to with the stupid undertaker story. And turned him heel. That is so spiteful from WWE. The only people they treated decent from WCW was Booker and Rey & Goldberg when he joined. And below they Shane Helms & Billy Gunn partner from Smackdown
@atouchofyaz4876
@atouchofyaz4876 3 года назад
poor buff lol the guy had 0 self awareness.. I cried laughing when he was like"I was that nice to ask them how they want me to leave the building after they fired me"...sir...they did not give 2 shits how tf you left lol no employer does. Especially an employer who thinks you have a bad attitude and are too big for your britches...personally I think his mom did call. I don't think that's why he got fired, I think that contributed to the fact that they already were souring on him. It's kinda sad that he seems to have 0 personal accountability for how he contributed to the consistent narrative a lot of other guys have about him being a pain in the ass to work with. Even that ? he posed to Johnny Ace and that convo he had with Jim Ross when he would call every few months cuz "they told me to call them back" shows he had absolutely no self awareness. It seems like he really wanted to be there and its a shame the negative experiences he had with the WWE and their staff took such a toll on his life. They should've at least been honest with him about why they didn't want him there so he could have some closure but he wasn't one of their guys so I'm sure they didn't feel like they owed him that
@anthonydelgrosso4818
@anthonydelgrosso4818 2 года назад
This story's hilarious I burst out laughing
@ZenOfMKVLI
@ZenOfMKVLI 6 месяцев назад
I know Buff had/has his issues, but i think he was on the right side of this conflict with WWE. He seems to be genuinely telling it as it happened. I hope he has enjoyed watching Vince's Karma returning.
@odd_job1
@odd_job1 Год назад
I had to go back and watch the match there was nothing wrong with it, a part from one botched spot but it was okay, the crowd wasn't into it because it was WCW themed with two WCW guys
@blkmamba31
@blkmamba31 2 года назад
I like Marcus, but it is so hard to tell when he is lying or telling the truth because he lies so damn much. He literally said that military members would touch his picture before going out on the field for combat. 😆😆 What kind of grown man touches a picture of a wrestler, a mid-carder at that, for inspiration to go fight a war?
@Lgp606
@Lgp606 5 лет назад
It’s so shitty a guy like Buff couldn’t catch a break in WWE. It’s really sad to see how much that effected his life.
@CuzStoneColdSaidSo11
@CuzStoneColdSaidSo11 2 года назад
As much as I believe Buff was his own worst enemy I do think his release by WWE has haunted him to this day
@jayRbee
@jayRbee Год назад
Kinda feel the same about Gilberti (Disco Inferno)... he may have been the joke ''jobber'' for WCW but he held titles, he could wrestle, entertain, and I just knew there was no way they'd put him in front of a WWF crowd... I saw Gilberti wrestling on TNA a few years later (2003'sh) in a tag match vs ICP and lost... pathetic way to go out. Dude gave his life to the industry and still kinda does.
@Alldayaj67
@Alldayaj67 Год назад
@@jayRbee Disco Inferno could wrestle! Vince purposely buried WCW wrestlers! He wanted to watch it burn after buying it! He never had any intention on doing anything for them
@joem2196
@joem2196 2 года назад
Vince Russo definitely sunk the WCW. I remember saying WHY is this guy here ? And watching it sink deeper week after week... sad
@TheJames-Edward
@TheJames-Edward 7 лет назад
I watched the match and it looked fine, but the fans were pro WWF fans, and didn't want to accept WCW guys wrestling no matter how the match went.
@MrDivalover1
@MrDivalover1 6 лет назад
@james steevens rey jr, booker t, chuck palumbo, billy kidman all were wcw guys were accepted by wwf fans/ rey jr had booker t had great career in wwf/E. also chuck palumbo billy kidman, had decent careers in wwe. same with torrie Wilson stacy keibler who were huge in wwf/E in attitude and ruthless aggression eras.
@worstthereeverwillbe1223
@worstthereeverwillbe1223 4 года назад
James Steevens yeah it wasn’t particularly good but the crowd played into that. But it wasn’t the worse match ever like everyone says it was
@mateo7650
@mateo7650 3 года назад
@@worstthereeverwillbe1223 agree. It was nothing special but it wasn’t particularly bad
@traviskarnes6825
@traviskarnes6825 3 года назад
So pretty much Buff buried himself when he turned down Vince's offer six months prior to the fall of WCW eh?
@thereal9118
@thereal9118 6 лет назад
So....during this meeting w/ Vince, Ace, Ross...why didn't he ask the reason for getting released
@sc30002001
@sc30002001 5 лет назад
Because he was under the impression that he would be brought back he waited two weeks after the 3 months and J.R. said we'll call you if we need you.
@brianboyd1437
@brianboyd1437 4 года назад
Not excusing the crappy match, but anyone who thinks wwe employees didn't try and sabotage wc w guys are delusional. Wwe agents don't just forget to go over main event matches lol. Come on
@danielwilliams5139
@danielwilliams5139 2 года назад
Thank you for uploading and sharing, one of my favorite wrestlers
@Grassyknolldallas
@Grassyknolldallas 2 года назад
The thing that hurt wrestling the most in the last 25 years has been WCW folding up. I had hopes for AEW but Tony Khan obviously doesn’t know what he’s doing. He has almost as much talent as WCW had and he has no clue how to get them over and people to care.
@chrisreynolds789
@chrisreynolds789 7 лет назад
man wwe could have done a lot with buff
@robertgambino3940
@robertgambino3940 4 года назад
you'll still kid
@makubegysman6160
@makubegysman6160 4 года назад
Like what
@Mashmarriner69
@Mashmarriner69 3 года назад
I love listening to Buff "Bullshit" Bagwell. 🤣
@Steveman27
@Steveman27 3 года назад
Does anyone else remember when he was Marcus Bagwell in WCW with the red white and blue pants? He always struggled to win and often lost much like his tag team partner Scotty Riggs, the Armstrong tag team, Alex Wright, Hardwork Bobby Walker, the Public Enemy tag team, Johnny B. Badd, and Hacksaw Jim Duggan? They were always incapacitated by a "face pull" sort of move where they eyes seem to be temporarily damaged, every time they did an elbow/collar tie up in the middle of the match against the heel, where the heel would then work them over.
@SepiaChild
@SepiaChild 4 года назад
WWE sucks
@djmonstrosity6971
@djmonstrosity6971 7 лет назад
He's right about Booker. WWE needed and wanted more Black athletes and Booker was the best around and fitted what they wanted to a tee. He was always going to have a shot up there.
@SRPC21
@SRPC21 5 лет назад
I think he had a much more humble attitude than Buff though. He was always going to be successful
@maxdecphoenix
@maxdecphoenix 5 лет назад
@@SRPC21 dude, Vince took back guys who had held him up before. Vince took back guys who took their ball and walked out on him. Vince took back guys who buried him/WWE in shoots. Vince took back guys who got in fights with staff. Vince took back writers from Brooklyn. Vince took back staff who were supposedly drunk on duty. Vince took back wrestlers who he'd fucked over and who had publically blamed him for KILLING HIS FUCKING BROTHER. But not Buff Bagwell? He got no second chance? What? When you look at the spectrum of people who left the company under insanely acrimonious conditions, who then returned weeks, months, occasionally a year or so later, versus what Bagwell is accused to have done it's hard to view it as anything except just common blackballing. His "attitude" couldn't have been so bad it justified a 15-year (now 20) blackballing from the company. Beginning to think Buff was fired for rejecting a pass by Pat Patterson.
@SRPC21
@SRPC21 5 лет назад
@@maxdecphoenix It was a really bad time to be a wrestler though; The WWE was the only company and it had a jam packed roster of the very best of wcw, ecw and their own talent. Buff was given his marching orders and he was never needed to come back because there were more than enough stars (Lance Storm was jobbing for god's sake!) Had it been a different period and had Buff been someone who had worked for Vince for some time I'm sure he would have been given another chance.
@maxdecphoenix
@maxdecphoenix 5 лет назад
@@SRPC21 Sorry no, the roster was not 'jam packed'. WWE only acquired 12 wrestlers from the WCW buyout. That's it. Twelve. From that whole roster. And only 3 of those were 'established names' with a decent singles run: DDP, Booker, Bagwell. Of the remaining 9, the most popular/senior was Hugh Morris. All the other guys got released, shitcanned (like Jeff Jarret), or didn't accept buy-outs. This was not 'the very best', in fact the WWE barely got any of the wrestlers who made WCW WCW. And wouldn't for another 3 years.
@maxdecphoenix
@maxdecphoenix 5 лет назад
@@SRPC21 you're also not being consistent in your argument. Your intial claim was essentially that buff got shitcanned because he was difficult to work with, after my comment you've now switched to 'he may not have been difficult, but it was just a loaded bench.'
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