2016 Carolina Crown - "Relentless" 

Justin Choe PREACH!

Elizabeth Berber up until it is I’d agree. 2012-2016 was perfection

After 2007 crown became a powerhouse.

Joseph Deluna beast is my second least favorite crown show right in front of beneath the surface. outside of a few brass moments that are godly I just think it's a really underwhelming show.

Joseph Deluna eh, I liked it more at the end of the season for sure, but outside of a few moments that I thought were beyond stunning the show just didn't click with me. didn't really enjoy the ballad or the closer at all this season. still a godly hornline just the show wasn't my favorite

They are great and they definitely have the best horn line, but their visuals and percussion could always use work

Khristian Ogao They deserved 2nd to be honest

Percussion definitely did not hold us back. It was just how we were judged by the panel on finals night. Hell we were down .15 to BD in visual, had we beat them in that caption we could have placed higher too.

Somethings are just out of our control. It happens, I'm happy with being Crowns first 3rd place corps ;) and getting the Brazale and Ott back to Carolina! Averaged over the 3 nights we placed 4th in percussion. Definitely the best Crown line we have had in a while and in many instances (though unseen to the public) they beat out some of the top lines like Coats, Vanguard, BD etc. Talk about tough competition!

Samuel Moore Yep I marched in 14, and 16 with Crown and 13 with Scouts. I played Soprano for both! It was so much fun battling it out this season with the Coats and the Devils. Great thing was that we all beat eachother at least once during the season to make it interesting.

Samuel Moore Certainly!! I loved being apart of both corps!! It was tough I was both happy and sad about that. I had friends from High school and students from the high school I teach at marching BAC and then my Brothers at scouts who had been there when I was a rookie who werent able to make finals for their age out.

I saw this live at the Nashville competition, and we went to watch them rehearse at a local school that morning... when they all turned around and did that opening hit, it was SO LOUD. Also: chills. Good golly they were a fantastic corps that year.

Look at the front ensemble judge. It's almost as if they made it impossible for him to hear on purpose.

Brennan Herring Which one is the front ensemble judge?

Lanaya Assassin hat percussion must have really let them down. Like, SERIOUSLY let them down if they got 3rd.

Blastisimo

Marcus Allen There’s no blasting there. That’s all just fantastic technique and fundamentals right there. They sound too good and blended to actually be blasting

@@jmbermea that flew so fast above your head I could feel the air from it

Mr. Krabs bruhhhh

good teaching, I bet.

yeah really lol. they're getting screwed a lot. at least they got one :(

Mr. Blast *year

Aaron Laughlin 1993 and 2013

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MrAndersonneo88 lmao just like Star, that’s probably why they’re playing this lmao

Charles to honest...it should have been a tie.

@@jjh2456 Yes it should have

Bluecoats: Hey look at this cool show we have Blue Devils: Mind if i come in

Edward Lee I think bluecoats deserved it for the pure insanity and boldness of their show but crowns brass is the best, no question

Edward Lee if bluecoats didn’t redefine dci this year I would agree. The ripples from that show have dramatically changed dci in just two years

Aaron Laughlin by going with the Bluecoats over this DCI did some damage to drum corps. Now everything is just too much and props have taken precedence over drill and musicality. DCI tried to walk that back in 2019 but I don’t know man.

Ryland Cook captions are averaged over 3 nights.

Corbin Buckley true but even in the finals they were the top corps in each caption they won.

Agreed... but it is that drum line that stops them year and year out. BD will always be at least a point above crown

Matt O’Donoghue well not lately.

Jose Hill the drumline is still not cracking into the top 3 and hasn’t since 2009 I believe. Don’t get me wrong great fun to watch as a line each year, just can’t catch Devils and Vanguard

DrummerJay322 The majority of Crown's brass and visual staff are Star of Indiana alumni...

Wahl95 I like to think that Star of Indiana would be a lot like Crown if they were still around today

TRUE

Star's show was unrelentingly angry, and without purpose or narrative clarity.

blueregiment I don’t think Crown would even exist if Star of Indiana didn’t fold

At the time, no. Thankfully hindsight is 20/20. Looking back, it was the better show and it honestly isn’t close.

IMO they're the cavaliers of this decade.

Joseph Fry Nah Bluecaots still deserved to win

I agree with both of the above comments

The true silver medalists

Better than the Blue Devils, but the Bluecoats were the rightful winner

Um SCV 2018 would like a word with you.

Jose Hill Nah Crown’s mellos were much louder

Carl Von Sirls no they wouldn’t. That percussion would get drowned out by the enormously loud hornline. Their percussion must be big enough to support that and for percussion the trade off is you will be messy.

@@jjh2456 Not really scv drumline are mad good and loud

Bysuke but against Crown’s hornline though?

@@jjh2456 yeah they would hold up

lilrookie no I realize that. I’m saying that SCV’s percussion is good for SCV. Just like Crown’s hornline is good for Crown.

Many people will agree with you now as opposed to then.

People love new and shiny until they realize the effect it actually had on everything as a whole...

thundercat720 Boston Crusaders would like a word with you.

mvcbc that is an extremely popular opinion

Listen to their opener from 2011.

Kuwayway Logic it was always the percussion

The reason they didn't get first

Justin Gorfinkel everyone makes mistakes lmfao. The end of my show this year I forgot to do the final horn down at MPA and I was so embarrassed

example: That guy in bluecoats in 2017 that moved like 8 counts early with a judge in front of him

nice

1049berkeley actually 2019 was good.

hammer was from 2017

agreed

Kalyn Alexander We were literally in the very BACK of the form... 😊

true, just saying I loved the layer yall brought!

Landon Garrison you need to put a rubberband or hair girl thing connecting the 1st and 3rd slides

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly - Ennio Morricone

It's insane how good all of these actually are. There's just so little argument to change that list. Crown openers 09-19 are the phantom balleds of the 00's. Untouchable

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This is way better in my opinion

@Micah Lall-Trail Not in every single regard but the opener for sure is way better and a lot of people would even say it's the best opener of all time. Stars opener is good but it's still kind of dry and anticlimatic crowns opener goes all out and is just so unapologetically powerful. Maybe it's just because broadcasting quality is better or maybe I'm just really "young" but crowns show sounds way better

@Micah Lall-Trail Oh yeah I'm only like a year younger than you I could write a counter argument to argue crowns opener being better but honestly I don't have the time. I've gotten into older shows more recently partially cause my neighbor marched snare with scv in the late 90s which peaked my interest. Just like I am with regular music I like both new and old for what they have to offer, so yeah that's the tea and I won't stop you from enjoying stars show

@Micah Lall-Trail I agree with some of what you said there especially regarding the mallet percussion and drill (My band did this kind of "crouching" dance work for our drum feature and I'm not a huge fan of it). And the thing you said about leaving you in suspense was true as well as I felt more interested in stars show as apposed to crown which opener left me completely satisfied after listening to it. But the rest of crowns show and stars are completely in different and I would say each opener suits the way the rest of the show went. You kind of mentioned it before but the thing I like about crowns opener was how slow the crescendo was and how extreme the dynamic changes were going from an extreme piano at the beginning to an extreme forte at the end and I would also argue that the transition into the hit was smoother (A high school marching band I watched at state also used this same effect and I know that when they "surprise" you with how loud they can get it absolutely blows your mind." Also crowns brass is no question better, as both the low and high brass fill have immaculate tone quality, balance and are generally have a louder, fuller sound. You could blame this impact on synthesizers but if you listen to any lot video you can hear how powerful the brass is just on its own. Oh and one more thing, like you said how stars key is pitched higher sounding more bright and tense, I can also the lower more minor sounding chords in crowns opener help it sound very "dark and sinister" which also better fits the rest of their show overall