2017 Lexus IS300h Review - Better Than The Germans? - Car Keys 

Correct. I drive a 5 series. 50k miles on it and already getting axle problems.

Samson Okoro I agree but reviewers will never admit that. They are Quick to say what the Germans are better at but they are never quick to say what Lexus does better than the Germans

Porsche is up there too

Porsche ?? NEVER ! my RX450h is now 10 year sold with much over 200000 on it and its such a reliable workhorse @@nurbsenvi

My Lexus is coming up to 20 years old no problems whatsoever could never say that about a German car.

You’re so racist

Totally bro👍🏽🤣😂

@@val7957 He is just telling the truth, you are a racist

@@val7957 what

Absolutely

could'nt of said it better my self, 100% agree!

Merc is owned by Daimler Chrysler, which makes it more American than German

BMW always had a harsher ride and steering. It's the price you pay for good handling. I had a 5 series and i just couldn't keep it as it was too noisy and uncomfortable for me. Switched to a Saab 9-5 and that was in a different league in terms of comfort. It was boaty but hush and refined.

Also driven BMWs and now own an IS and i can pretty much confirm this. IS has a good balance of comfort and sport whereas the BMWs are mostly just harsh

The lexus is just better on uk roads where there are potholes , speed bumps and sinkholes everywhere. The uk roads are absolutely atrocious.

they really are, my whole family own one haha

The CVT in a Lexus/Toyota hybrid is not a standard CVT its an eCVT - completely planetary. No belts...though the feel may be similar

To all intents and purposes it still drives like a CVT.

you're paying for better design and driving dynamics with german cars.

@@RationalCreed it also has a standard 1st gear to reduce wear, doesn't it?

CVT is not completely terrible but it does whine when you open the car up.

Not in my experience.

@@tectorama they are a great gearbox Ecvt, they are really not a cvt at all lads, and they do whine when you open them up, I’m a Lexus is300h owner.

Well they are terrible driving experience wise, although they boost fuel economy and reliability

Any major repairs so far?

martyna adamusik i have the F sport with 120k miles and no problems at all. 3 years of owning this car it still drives perfect.

Do you still have it?

I got my lexus is 250 for the past 6 years now the car is 110000 miles and nearly 16 years old and noone belive is that old they all think is 2015 plate not 55 reg haha because paint looks still like new its unbelivabke no signs of rust and never had any problems with it just changing oil but it drink oil i have to top up every 2 months because its petrol engine v6 likes to drink oil .amazing cars .in america they mostly buy lexus not german junks

@@Fidiasz83 what? You have to top up oil every two months? That sounds like something is not right. My 2008 IS250 doesn't need any top ups at all. Just once a year oil change.

Yep I own a money pit Audi A4 b7

US galloon or UK galloon? How much is that 52mpg as litre/100?

UK Gallon... It's about 4.5 litres to a gallon

@@tectorama so it's about 5.43 L/ 100km Thanks for the info (it has been quite difficult to find how much is the real fuel consunption with is300h. I have Volvo V70 D3 (diesel) automat (2011) and the real consumption is 6,5-8 L/100km at winter now and using webasto almost daily. I've been wondering to get eather is300h or prius 2016, guess with one I'd like to have? 😂 Here in Finland yesterday bensin and diesel were at the same price (before diesel was cheaper) and the price is about 2,20€/litre now and I think they're expecting it can even rise to 3€/litre. Awful! And still I pay taxes every year for thos volvo over 700€ and for prius and is300h it'd be 100€ or less. With my about 25 000 km per year I think with this fuel prices now (and with calculating the tax and insurances) lexus is300h would save me about 1400€/year (minus how much the car's value will lost in the time) and prius would be propably over 2000€ (I countes the average consumpion to be 4,5 litres/100km in prius and is300h 5,5 litres and in volvo 6,7). The prius would be the economical choise even after counting the value loss. The is300h would be my choise from feeling (once tried the 2014 f-sport model, but I'd propably go for Comfort or Excecutive models because of little bit smaller wheels - better fuel economy). I really loved that car (even quieter than my volvo, very nice to drive, enough power in sector 80-120km/h (the most useful in finnish traffic - why do people always look for the acceleration from 0-100km/h and not the acceleration on speeds where you have to pass someone...) One more thing I like toyota's (and lexus's) hybrids is that the warm up so quickly). Couple of months ago I tried my father's auris hsd (2011) and was suprised how quick the interior warmed up in -15 degrees of Celcius without pre-warming. So after all I think I should stay with my volvo (even though I'd like to have is300h), because actually there is not much economical difference (lexus's price will get lower quicker than my volvo's at the moment, because if is300h as a new in Finland is from 45k€ to plus 60k€ and the cheapest used is about 19k€ (2013/ mileage 230 000km), my volvo's price is somewhere 8000€ (350 000 km now)

@@mikavesalainen3078. No more Russian oil for your country now or gas, so everything will get more expensive..

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Yeah the cvt is so smooth

Yeah it feels sluggish from standstill but if you floor it in speed, it's surprisingly fast.

German manufacturers do not care about the second hand market. They only care about the brand new market. Hence why their cars are not as reliable when they get older. Most people in that segment change their car every 3 to 5 years.

Because british people think that german car reliability is the standard for every other car brands. BMWs, Audi's, all of them are built so they don't last a long time. The newer models are the same. The germans just don't care about reliability like the japanese.

Actually it's 8.0 seconds

Liam O'Flaherty it has actually 181 hp for this hp is not slow its normal. System power is 223 hp

8.4 seconds is lame for over 200 Bhp. My 520d is faster and much heavier and less BHP

@@josefkocag3135 correct. 👍🏾

@@S01-k9z correct that’s why I’d have to get a 3 litre Lexus.

They are building them there for the US market. It means they can build them there with lower taxes.

Funny you should say that... I've got a Lexus precisely because of the badge and what it represents... And I'm very proud of it. To me a German car = old, uneducated driver stuck in the past or young person influenced by his elders who don't understand that the time of German car superiority is long gone... The eastern Europeans seem to like them a lot... But that's mainly because they can get them cheap from Germany after some German "forget's" (which is exclusively a German car owner disability btw) to INDICATE a turn crashing into a local goat herd after having few to many beers and wienerschnitzel during Octorberfest. It's just cheap to repair because there's so many of them...

In Asia,Lexus is just as Luxurious & looked up as a Mercedes Benz.

how so? i hear lexus are boring to drive type of cars.

Doesn't matter when its in range acceleration can smoke 3.0l diesels

More like a complete deal breaker.

It's people like you who expect a hybrid to have out of the world acceleration speeds.

Travis Thai, the competition does it in 6 seconds, that's an enormous difference.

The point is, you're trying to make a more green car not a race car. If you wanted a better acceleration get the Petrol versions

One could think that the Japanese understood a long time ago how bad diesels are for air quality and our health 🤔

2300 in uk. but u can get hybrid battery warranty for 15 years

Car Keys UK Lexus, by a mile.

Car Keys UK Lexus looks cheap and plasticy. Audi by a km.

Definitely the Lexus.

You do realise that there's more than just Germans to compare to right? When will people realise that the German cars are not what they used to be... Wise up already. Unless you just love repairing your cars... than carry on I guess.

Car Keys UK lexus no doubt. Sure both mercedes and bmw look fancy but they feel more sport oriented. Lexus imo have great build quality (even my old 2002 is200 felt luxurious compared to the cars from that time and didnt feel cheap either) and they are stupidly comfortable. Going to buy a IS as soon as i get a stable job again

Just like the shape of ya eyebrows bud.

They look fine? Although in this review, the car has a meh colour... also its the old version, the updated one especially in Fsport has a much nicer and darker trim to it

Yeah it is

Reliability

You can own them beyond the warranty period without worrying about an engine or gearbox failure costing you up to 20K $ or £ !!! That's pretty unique

Outstanding reliability, superior quality, hybrid drive & CVT gearbox, it's not german.

Devan Patel nope, last manual IS were made 2012 (is250)

You wouldn't want to anyways, the petrol-only IS is rather unpopular because its not that much faster than the hybrid and the fuel consumption is abysmal

Hi Sakk, Ryan liked the cvt in the Lexus so it would definitely be worth testing out.

arrow007 interms of technology and speed no, in terms of reliability and every ease of use yes.

@@ahmadmohamad6384 Don't you think reliability comes from advanced technology...!?

@@ahmadmohamad6384 wdym by technology? My IS has PLENTY of it

the same as between stupid-ish and smart-ish.

I'm pretty sure brands like Mercedes use more of real skins than Lexus does and Lexus are far more economical.

Oh I've experienced it, the BMW, Merc & Jaguar interiors have no right to call it leather.

NZsarge1 tbh I was the same but you start to adjust to the style and start to like the natural arming position of it. You should try it ;)

Travis Thai I'll pass thanks.

The CVT hate is unwarranted, lexus built it right. Also this older version didn't look all that great, the newest facelift is miles ahead. Also, the interior looks far better in person and it grows on you really quickly, i didn't think I'd like it until i actually got the car

@@seemslegit6203 I stand by my comment

By your logic, every car is a BMW pretender

In our opinion, yeah!

Your not great to look at either!

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