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2018 Pleasure-way Plateau FL Review | A Front & Rear Lounge Luxury Class B Camper Van 

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@philipmcclure6273
@philipmcclure6273 6 лет назад
Just purchased a 2006 PW Plateau due to your recommendations and my research. I am delighted at how solid it is, and how quiet it is on the road. These are built to last!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
Philip a 2006 Plateau is practically new in PW years, lol. well done and congratulations on your new van! where did you pick it up?
@philipmcclure6273
@philipmcclure6273 6 лет назад
At an RV dealer near Tacoma. I first saw it on RVTrader (highly recommended for RV searches) as a private sale -- one owner, impeccable maintenance record, and 17,600 miles. I got no response, but then saw that they'd consigned it to the dealer -- Johnson RV in Fife, WA. I pounced on it immediately. Believe it or not, it still has a new car smell, and the Mercedes diesel drives like a dream.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
Philip. 17,600 miles on a Mercedes diesel isn't really even broken in yet. honestly,. you may have had just one oil change at 17,600!
@petestjeanohio686
@petestjeanohio686 3 года назад
We were looking at these and watching this helped make up our minds. Just made a deal on one today, sign all the paperwork and pick it up on Friday. Very Excited!!! I have watched many of you videos and found them to be very helpful and insightful. Thank you!
@tuquepf
@tuquepf 6 лет назад
Can't wait to drive the Pleasureway FL. 70 years old, 5'1, & planning on fulltiming. I've had many RVs/MHs & this will be perfect. Thank you for the tour.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
linda - you're going to love the FL! I absolutely love it. it is such a great layout. the fit and finish are top notch. it is built to the highest quality available.
@willtravelusa8230
@willtravelusa8230 6 лет назад
Hi Neil Just purchased a 2014 pursuit on the F350 chassis , we determine that the diesel fuel when living in the Midwest was going to be a problem. The warranty is void with Mercedes if you use D20 Corn based diesel fuel and many of the states in the Midwest only have that type of diesel fuel. So we purchased a ford F350 chassis and so far so good. The RV chassis is so strong no side to side motion and very steady on the road. We believe we received 12 miles to a gallon ( highway), I will know more in the weeks to come. After 3 days of cleaning and detailing we are very impressed at the quality of this RV. The Pleasure-way RV's really are head's above the others. Thanks Neil after watching your video's , we agreed pleasure way was the one. Looking forward to seeing you on the road.....
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
the pursuit is a great van - congratulations! plus it's a PW so you know that it is built well. See you on the Road but please continue to watch my videos!
@willtravelusa8230
@willtravelusa8230 6 лет назад
Neil Thank you for the kind words and great support. looking forward to see you on the road in the future...... Keep the great information available on the new B and B+ RV units...
@sandyhightower9166
@sandyhightower9166 5 лет назад
Thanks so much for your fabulous reviews! We have a 2015 Sprinter passenger van that we self converted but want to go to a Pleasure Way in about 5 years. The layouts are so amazing and exactly what we need.
@jenniferharris7633
@jenniferharris7633 6 лет назад
As we watch you review PW's week to week, one can't help but think that you are secretly shopping for an upgrade to your Ascent. Reminds me of my mom, and how she would take her Lexus in for service, look at the new year models while there, and drive out with a new one. : D
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
oh jeez please no! i just traded in my (almost) brand new 2014 Roadtrek CS Adventurous for this 2017 Ascent! Honestly, while I absolutely love the Plateau FL I can't quit the short length of the Ascent. The length was the primary reason for me upgrading. I find that not having that extra 3 feet allows me to use the Ascent as my daily driver. I mean right now I'm parked on the shoreline in a normal parking space that the Plateau would not be able to fit in. That's why I don't think I could go back to the 23 foot length van. But man I do love me some FL!
@jenniferharris7633
@jenniferharris7633 6 лет назад
Well.....who says you can't have BOTH?
@MikeD-px9eh
@MikeD-px9eh 6 лет назад
Great to see your review on FL. My goal in the not to near future is to be able to incorporate working remotely part time while seeing the county and the work space behind the driver seat in the FL model would be ideal. I'm a recent subscriber to your channel and find your reviews on class B units very objective and useful. Please consider a future video on how best to set up a mobile work environment for internet connectivity, office storage ideas, and any other ideas you would have on working from a class B. Thanks Much Mike
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
you got it mike. great idea. I've logged it.
@Jdlucas44
@Jdlucas44 6 лет назад
Thanks Neil, the 2018 Pleasure-way Plateau FL is a spectacular class B and on the top of my list.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
if you're a premium buyer and don't mind the few feet of extra length then this is the van for you John. it really is almost a perfect balance between design and function. very well executed in my book.
@TimPaddy
@TimPaddy 5 лет назад
I'm new to your channel, and bingeing... This is by far my favorite review you've done on camper vans. Still searching for reviews on Midwest models. It also seems you never, or rarely, do videos on models with 4x captains chairs up front. Thanks for making all these videos!
@brianwhitaker6040
@brianwhitaker6040 6 лет назад
Thanks Neil for another honest review.Once again great value for the price.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
brian thank you for watching!
@beverleywilliams4093
@beverleywilliams4093 6 лет назад
Thanks for another great video. You have been instrumental in our decision making and I am happy to say we found a 2018 Plateau FL and signed the paperwork yesterday! We take delivery August 31. Now I just need some great tips on organizing and trying to get enough food into that fridge!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
congratulations Beverley! so excited for you! I LOVE LOVE LOVE the FL. it is my favorite floor plan right now! if you found my videos useful and would like to receive a $250 rebate from PW (plus I get one too) then please head over to this link and enter my PAC number: 837., They'll mail a check out to both of us! www.pleasureway.com/reward
@beverleywilliams4093
@beverleywilliams4093 6 лет назад
Ultramobility, done! Thanks so much, Neil. That $250 can go toward all the things we need to get to prep for the road. Thanks again and happy travels!
@gidmalu
@gidmalu 6 лет назад
*sigh* We have no need for all the luxury fittings, not to mention the extra length or price. Must admit, though, that front lounge is beyond tempting. Thanks for the marvelous review.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
yeah have to agree with you on the length and price. i prefer the shorter length camper vans but others like the extra space that the longer ones offer. the price is higher but honestly it's tens of thousands less than an Airstream Interstate and I'd take this van hands down over an Interstate. I'll be reviewing on shortly to give my full thoughts.
@ericp7393
@ericp7393 6 лет назад
I purchased a 2017 FL new after sitting in all the class B models for it's functionality. My wife & I are opposites, I'm early to bed and early to rise. I enjoy sitting up front & watching the local news where ever we are. She sits up front & reads at night. At 22'-9" I find it uses 1.5 parking space but finding adequate space is not difficult because I park away from others as much as possible to avoid the door bangers. I'm not pleased with the MCD shades as two have failed so I'm seeking a quality replacement. The velcro would not be a problem if people locked the shade in position before attaching it.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
it sounds like the FL is the ideal layout for you both! i love that front lounge. it is the most beautiful and practical on the market. Other coach builders give you a "front lounge" but often times it is a tiny living space that seems more like an after-thought "oh let's just put in a il-conceived contraption that pulls out from the counter and turns into a table. voila a lounge!" This lounge stands on its own as a proper lounge, office, living space. i hope you enjoy your fl. I'm jealous!
@mwsteffen
@mwsteffen 6 лет назад
I agree the layout is just amazing. Just wish it was under 21'. Nice presentation Neil.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
many thanks mark!
@chuck56176
@chuck56176 4 года назад
Great, helpful review! This will be my next Van! Thank you so much!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Год назад
you’re welcome
@MyChannel-vm6dw
@MyChannel-vm6dw 6 лет назад
Neil you hit another one out of the park this is by far the best video I've seen on this particular camper van. And I've been looking at a ton of them and nothing comes close to your details. I absolutely love that you have included how many people it seats how much it costs and how many it sleeps keep up the great work. If you could throw me a quick suggestion for something that has six legal seatbelts and sleeps for as your suggestion that's what I'm in the market for something to do day running between trips at Disney Land and home take my family of four and a couple of friends.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
hey there. seating six is available: Roadtrek rs adventurous, etrek and Winnebago era 70x as well as coachmen galleria 24q and aktiv 2.0 with the sofa bed in the rear. as far as i know only the aktiv 2.0 with sofa bed in the rear can sleep 4 (2 small kids in the front). the others can sleep 3. the loft edition of the aktiv will be able to sleep 6.
@angoor101
@angoor101 6 лет назад
I like your Acsent, but this one is the one I’ll buy, may be in about 7 years when I retire. By then, I’ll be watching your review of a 2025 model. Thanks for your videos. I’ve watched just about all your posts and believe you’re the best and honest reviewer that manufacturers hate and appreciate at the same time. A win for them and us, the consumer. I would like for you to, may be not in detail, but show the exterior of the van in review, before going in. For most novice future buyers like me, it is helpful. 🤙
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
thank you very much for this Goldwing Pilot. I do love my job and you're right the CEO's of these companies love me and hate me at the same time.
@Evanswiley
@Evanswiley 6 лет назад
Great video review! I love the Pleasure Way plateau Fl, it's the best layout of all the class-b rv's I have seen. Pleasure Ways attention to detail is the best on the market.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
many thanks. i find this particular layout and the execution to be the best in the market too. they didn't have to do a bunch of stuff that they did like the curved cabinets and the curved floor or the Corian work surface. it just all is so Pleasureway. i do wish however that they would get rid of that hideous plastic sink in the bathroom. i mean honestly it just doesn't match the rest of the van. you see it and are like "what happened here?"
@henryrosa8366
@henryrosa8366 6 лет назад
After recently selling my Winnebago, I’ve been looking to step up to a pleasure way. This was a great review, I just wish that it was a bit shorter and that it had the large rear windows like yours.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
you're right to think about length. most people don't. I've owned both the longer and shorter sprinter and prefer the shorter because of the ability to park it anywhere. i too love my large picture window in the back. everyone that rides in the back comments on how incredible it is for taking in the views. they could put the same window in on the Plateau but opted to give you the awning style windows instead. i wish they would make a version of the plateau with the large single window in the back like my ascent. great idea.
@ericp7393
@ericp7393 6 лет назад
you would appreciate the ventilation and find that most peoples eye level is above the vents.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
i agree. on hot days those extra windows really do help with cross ventilation.
@ldrake3155
@ldrake3155 6 лет назад
For the longest time, I loved and wanted the Ascent, but this year I fell for the Plateau FL. It is definitely a beauty. Love the extra space it has in the front and in the galley area. The TS and TD just don't have that counter space. Now if they would just have the Plateau as an XL - it'll be almost perfect. Only thing have to sacrifice is on the length (a small sacrifice mainly in city street parking, I'm thinking). Thanks for the review!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
thank you L Drake for sharing your thoughts and watching my channel!
@terryharrigan6324
@terryharrigan6324 5 лет назад
I went with the 2020 Lexor FL. Should see it in 5 to 6 months.
@rccomo1144
@rccomo1144 6 лет назад
I am very happy with my propane refrigerator I have two campers they both have Protane they both work fine also I have to agree with you on the length I don't know if I could handle the extra length
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
yeah me too! propane refrigerators get a terrible rap. there are advantages to both compressor type and absorption types. i really don't understand the divided camps. compressor refrigerator supports don't like hearing that energy management is an issue with them but that's a hard fact. I've owned both and candidly prefer my propane because i NEVER have to worry about my battery charge levels. You can read all over forums and groups on Facebook about battery levels depleting when the compressor refrigerator is left running and there are a couple overcast days. i never have to worry about that!
@gosman949
@gosman949 6 лет назад
Neil, one fix for the shades are the shades being introduced on the Winnebagos. They are rattle free and of a complete different design and incorporate dual pane windows. I'm not sure if MCD makes these. We are proud of the company MCD as they reside right here in the Dallas area. Another issue I have with the Sprinter chassis and PW, is their lack of a diesel generator option. Our local PW and Leisure Travel dealer orders all units with the diesel generator if it is offered. The feeling is that the diesel generator is more efficient and will not leave you stranded looking for LP. I'm not as adverse with the propane system since lithium batteries are used with solar, I just don't know how long you are able to boondock with solar and lithium and propane use. But as you say in your videos, you should maximize your energy sources. I just feel that a diesel generator is one of these resources.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
it's a great point Jay. they do offer the gas generator on the Lexor so not sure why they don't offer the diesel on the sprinter. it could be something to do with Mercedes and staying a MasterUpfitter. Mercedes is very picky about anything being modified with their engines. Still it would be really great to have a diesel version wouldn't it. I just started my propane genny this morning for its routine monthly maintenance and was pleasantly surprised that the noise level was not as loud as I always think. I like having a genny and 3 energy sources myself but I concedes that a diesel genny would allow you to run the AGS (automatic generator start) for much longer.
@anthonycbrown1952
@anthonycbrown1952 6 лет назад
Not sure a diesel generator will fit in a Class B van. Only seen them in the Sprinter cut-away chassis. Lithium power solutions seem to be the way to go. The right tool for the job I say. The beauty of the Class B is the flexibility it provides. Maybe Neil can do a quasi-bookdocking adventure and tell us how long he can last with the on-board resources.
@ericp7393
@ericp7393 6 лет назад
As a current FL owner I have found that the black water tank is the limiting factor for true boondocking. I have only filled the propane tank one time in 16 months. On a recent six day boondock the solar panels kept the batteries charged and I did not need the gen.
@gosman949
@gosman949 6 лет назад
Good to know valued customer! However, when you live in Texas and want to boondock in the summer with air conditioner on, a diesel gen set would be necessary!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
yes! that sounds like a great episode - a real life boondocking episode where i chronicle my energy usage. logged!
@patriciahinkley9125
@patriciahinkley9125 6 лет назад
Another great review Neil. Thank you my friend .
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
Thank you Patricia very much for being a subscriber!
@lynndowers3421
@lynndowers3421 4 года назад
You are my favorite for this venue and my "go to" for knowing what is the best RV. Looking for a RV and love this one but 24' is a little long for me, another suggestion for something 19-21? Single Traveler but sometimes take a friend along. Thanks for the information:)
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Год назад
you’re welcome!
@robertpuffinburger8155
@robertpuffinburger8155 5 лет назад
Do you ever think pleasure way will ever put toilet paper holder and medicine cabinet in the bathroom in the assent
@jenniferharris7633
@jenniferharris7633 6 лет назад
Neil, would you please do a comparison of sizes of the Class Bs and what the short WB can do vs the long WB? We would use ours not to camp at state or nat'l parks, but rather to visit small town and large city USA w/o staying in hotels. How important is that shorter WB when using the van primarily in urban areas?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
i get a lot of questions about this Jennifer so I think i'm going to devote an entire episode for it. i'll likely do it for a Saturday Q&A. great idea!
@ericp7393
@ericp7393 6 лет назад
I have had a short RoadTrek 170 & now the FL. Our previous travels were as you plan and the shorter model is the way to go for just travel.
@jackcondrey8264
@jackcondrey8264 6 лет назад
In a nut shell, a shorter wheel base gives you a smaller turning radius. Therefore, a shorter wheel base is more nimble, comparatively.
@brendaharris6290
@brendaharris6290 4 года назад
Would like to find out where I could test drive an all weather rv sleeps 6+ class B sprinter with a real bathroom. Live in New York, but on a budget! Like the beds that drop down from the roof in the rear. The back can convert to a sitting area. Four can sit up front. With a removable table. I saw a van that had taken a side where the bed and sitting area would normally be and was turned into a full shower, sink and toilet. Would not mind a flip up sink. Would also want area in the bathroom for a stacking washing machine & dryer. Perhaps when the shower isn't being used can raise up a set from the basement of the sprinter or just have the washer dryer accessible on the basement level of the van. It may use alot of water, but could be a washer that would not use that much water. Anyway, please advise what is available in market. Plan to live in it for approximately 3 mos. in the winter, close to my job. Please advise, needed asap! Thank you for your help!
@susanwes
@susanwes 6 лет назад
I love this one so much...and the front lounge is way bigger in person than it looks online - those cabinets above and below are really substantial. Even though we would have more room in an XL, and plan to live in ours...we are probably going to end up with this one. If it's too small, we can always trade up--not like it will lose a lot of value or be hard to sell! There really just is nothing else out there that compares to this front lounge!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
have to admit that front lounge is versatile. I do also like the rear lounge because when the bed is down someone else can be back there chillin'. You really need a second lounge with a murphy bed configuration.
@susanwes
@susanwes 6 лет назад
Agreed. I think the murphy bed in the other LTV (maybe the Unity) seems to work a little better.
@inane5020
@inane5020 6 лет назад
I wish PW could come up with sleeps 4 on FL. Like a bed hidden up the roof then turns to a bunk bed whatever. I don't mind sacrificing the "hanging wardrobe" space since it's just logical to stay minimalism if one considers RV living anyway. Enjoys your detailed observations on every RVs you review. Of all I always go back on this one. My favorite. Probably another generation of the Jetsons will come into fruition, change and challenge the RV market soon. Revise revise revise please. 😎
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
thanks for sharing inane! the 2019 models give you the option of an inflatable bed for sleeping a third person across the front cab seats.
@gregmoore8098
@gregmoore8098 6 лет назад
Hi Neil, Your right about the concerns of a 23 foot model. This is especially a problem for areas where you parallel park. For example took my rig to Monterey Bay Aquarium and had to park a quarter mile away because of the parking length. Just remember you are already limited with these rigs in parking garages because of the height So it is definitely something that one needs to consider. The other concern is having a need for a exterior window in the bathroom. From a privacy issue they are a pain. They also make the bathroom more warm or more cold depending on the weather. Some Airstream trailers I have seen even have them right behind the toilet. What were they thinking? Anyway thanks again for your wonderful video.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
hey greg, thank you for watching and for sharing your thoughts! having owned a 23 foot Sprinter and now the 19 foot one I can attest that the shorter one is the way to go at least for me. I'd never go back to the longer wheelbase... well i shouldn't say never. i do love me some FL magic.
@iangorner
@iangorner 6 лет назад
Looks like a home run for Pleasureway.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
it's a great van - not without its faults but well balanced in fit, finish, quality, design and technology. hard to find a good balance in today's day and age of camper vans.
@GrandpaNana
@GrandpaNana 6 лет назад
Very helpful! I was having trouble deciding between the FL and TS. Of course I need to see them personally but now I know what to look for. (And I am really pre-sold).
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
fl gives you that wonderful front lounge but at the expense of a smaller galley and bathroom.
@toptobottom247
@toptobottom247 6 лет назад
I know that you're biased to your brand and I don't hold that against you. I like what you do. My issues with this build are no multiplex wiring and a single control center, no 3 way Dometic fridge (should be an industry standard), love the front lounge design, hate the traditional (Roadtrek) like cabinetry. Also once again I dislike the raggedy looking roll down screen (tried it don't like it). Prefer the slider. This IS a quality coach. I would recommend this for people to tour. I personally wouldn't buy it. Shout out to Pleasure Way for going with lithium batteries as standard. Great review. Thanks for sharing.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
hey there. i think there may be some confusion. the FL DOES have multiplex wiring. All PW coaches do and it DOES have a single control center and it DOES have a an automatic 3-way refrigerator. Am I confused as to what you're saying?
@ran6110
@ran6110 6 лет назад
There is a control panel by the entry AND one in the back by above the TV screen. Also, each control center mirrors the settings of the other in real-time. You can actually change something on one and someone standing at the other can see change as they happen. The cabinets are the standard 'flat-faced' but the deluxe rounded and high gloss options are available. If you watch the official Plateau FL video you'll see the high-end cabinets and shown the 2 control panels. The CEO also discusses the multiplex wiring. Here's a link... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Yn_TTfjqPdc.html
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
yep thanks for sharing that ranTrek.
@josephbianchimano5672
@josephbianchimano5672 6 лет назад
neil , this is the ultimate camper van , great video you have opened my eyes to quality this is why im sold on pleasure way vans , however my price range is 100,000 , so my pick would be the ts or fl
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
take a look at the lexor ts or fl built on the ram promaster chassis. that's likely in your price range.
@josephbianchimano5672
@josephbianchimano5672 6 лет назад
neil what would your choice be on a lexor TS or FL ? i also liked the front lounge on the FL but i think they are priced higher than the TS ?
@RERick
@RERick 6 лет назад
Great review as always! This whole time I thought you had a cameraman. What camera setup you have that follows you while you’re moving?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
hey rick, thank you very much. i record in 5.7k 360 using a special camera. i then edit using a special 360 editor and reframe using special software in post. a lot of work but well worth it i think in the long run.
@BookYourImagination
@BookYourImagination 6 лет назад
Ultramobility That's impressive. I also thought you had a camerman. Great editing!
@johnhaymer5056
@johnhaymer5056 6 лет назад
Very nice review and good price for what you get . Thank you .
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
thank you john.
@mstastka
@mstastka 6 лет назад
This is by far my favorite and am going to start looking for them. Are the tank capacities the same as your Assent? This would be on a dual wheel 350 chassis wouldn't it? Thank Neil, Great review
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
hey mike fresh is 24g to my 20g, grey is 35g to my 15g and black is 10g to my 12g. yes it is a dually on the back.
@mstastka
@mstastka 6 лет назад
Ultramobility: what do you think a realistic price would be for the FL?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
hmmm that's a hard one. they are scarce so that tends to keep the discounts low but... they also sometimes end up on lots a bit because the price is high. i'd say it's likely around what i got for my Ascent. if you could get maybe a 12% to 15% discount i think that would be really good. so on this van that would be maybe $16k to $20k discount? i'd say more like $16k.
@mstastka
@mstastka 6 лет назад
Ultramobility : thanks for your thoughts on that. So around $130k or so. I know you are paying for quality but it’s sad to think you could buy a pretty decent class A or C for that with so much more. What we are all paying for is size here!! And the fact that you can park them in an HOA community
@jackcondrey8264
@jackcondrey8264 6 лет назад
Class B's are like the "sports cars" of the RV industry. As we all know, a fancy sports car often costs much more then a regular car. Class B's are more expensive to build on a cost per foot basis as well because they require more special fitting due to angles and curves of the van (unlike a box of a class A or C RV which is much easier to build). I own a 2018 Lexor, and like Mr. Balthaser, I use it as a daily driver. Can't do that with a Class A or C. I agree with you though, they are very expensive comparatively. It took me quite a while to get comfortable with that. So as Mr. Balthaser so aptly said in previous videos, one must consider their use case and buy accordingly. I can use my B van more frequently than an A or C, and it's just for me and my wife. It's not really a family RV.
@celinegandolfo2314
@celinegandolfo2314 6 лет назад
I love Pleasureway. Do you ever ask them why they don't do a 4 season..
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
yes dean says they are not comfortable with the van having all the components on the top and making it top heavy. he's concerned about safety.
@user-cj7dv2kc6d
@user-cj7dv2kc6d 6 лет назад
Don't need tanks and hoses in the top.. just at the bottom of the cabin. Or else heated tanks and lines. Would definitely be nice for people who full time and would actually like to use all the features without having to fly south for the winter. but ya they apparently have no plans for 4 season units for whatever reason. Safety is a bogus answer imo.
@solodad
@solodad 6 лет назад
And now for the best classB van: The winner is (Open the enveloppe): PLEASURE WAY PLATEAU FL a Canadian product. Tks neil
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
yep, most of the class b's sold in North America are designed and built in good old Canada! I wish some other coach builder would build something that gives the FL a run for its money. It really is a very special coach.
@betterbusinesssc
@betterbusinesssc 6 лет назад
I enjoy your reviews. Would like a little more engine and tank size talk, but like I said great channel
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
thanks Jeremy. noted!
@vickielane7387
@vickielane7387 6 лет назад
Hi Neil, another informative video! The info about the window was very interesting. Are the van windows essentially leak proof and what do other builders do? Love you nutral reviews :)
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
Hi there Vickie! Yeah these windows at least on the Mercedes chassis are recommended by them from a company called CR Lawrence and they are very good automotive as far as I know they don’t. The ones on the travato I’m not sure about. I know that CR Lawrence makes windows for Travato but I don’t know many manufacturers that use them. I don’t like he’s cheap/acrylic windows that are now putting in some of the pro master chassis
@vickielane7387
@vickielane7387 6 лет назад
Ultramobility thanks the response Neil. I'm afraid acrylic will eventually get cloudy looking...
@jmaul5031
@jmaul5031 3 года назад
Does Pleasure Way make an all season van? I cannot find if the pipes are inside and if the tanks are heated.
@irenehumphries1910
@irenehumphries1910 6 лет назад
Thank you for the review. Can you smell much off gassing of the interior in this Van?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
not really Irene. there was a new car smell for a bit but it wasn't bad really. good question.
@irenehumphries1910
@irenehumphries1910 6 лет назад
Ultramobility thank you.
@homebuiltcamperdave5226
@homebuiltcamperdave5226 6 лет назад
Great review. My mouth waters every time I go inside one of those FL Mercedes vans they make. It’s wonderful! Only complaints I had about it. That front desk area the corian too needs to extend just a bit further toward the seat. I put my computer on it like I would be working and it was too far away to be comfortable. And my only other complaint is the limitations of the size of the propane tank with respect to generator use. That’s where the lexor fo has a major advantage as the generator runs off the fuel tank. Who knows which one I’ll end up with once my home made camper finally wears out. Lexor definitely has a price advantage. But I often wonder how reliable the dodge pro master is compared to the Mercedes.
@jenniferharris7633
@jenniferharris7633 6 лет назад
But that Promaster is so....well, you know. Bless its homely little heart.....
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
lol. you make me laugh. :-)
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
it is great that on the lexor the generator runs off the main fuel tank. you're right there.
@Judy-cm6kp
@Judy-cm6kp 6 лет назад
It certainly is beautiful
@bellahuang2481
@bellahuang2481 6 лет назад
this front lounge is best !
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
it's just so beautiful itsn't it bella? i mean it doesn't feel like an RV. it really stands on its own as a lounge - not an afterthought.
@bellahuang2481
@bellahuang2481 6 лет назад
this is a real office
@user-cj7dv2kc6d
@user-cj7dv2kc6d 6 лет назад
Looks like that front workstation table doesn't extend out far enough for the drivers seat. Or seat doesn't go to the rear far enough. What did you think? Wonder if 2019 model will be an improvement with that.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
hi martin - I didn't have a problem sitting at the work station. I found I wasn't having to reach but maybe that's just me.
@owenmcomber2982
@owenmcomber2982 6 лет назад
Would like to see you review the Coach House Arriva and share your thoughts on it’s design. I like the rear dry bath.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
i will definitely do that owen! thanks for the suggestion.
@mpgolfzen
@mpgolfzen 6 лет назад
Thanks Neil great review - I still love the Midwest Automotive Design with the four captain chairs in the front lounge - they are also offering the Xantrex FREEDOM e-GEN lithium-ion power system (replaces generator) I think aside from Advanced RV, Midwest is so amazing inside - feels like a private jet - I love Pleasure way, but no 4x4, nor could you sit four people in the front lounge.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
that is true, no 4 people in the front lounge but you can in the rear lounge. i'll have to review the passage for you!
@mpgolfzen
@mpgolfzen 6 лет назад
that would be great to get your opinion on Midwest Passage! Thanks!
@Wingeezer
@Wingeezer 6 лет назад
Neil, By coincidence, we just signed up for one today! Won't get it until Sept. unfortunately but hope to get a couple of short shake down trips in befor teh snow flies and we head south with it. Traded in our diesel truck and 31ft Airstream as I found they were getting a bit tomuch for me as we get up in years - plus we wanted to camp in spots where the Airstream cannot fit. I did strongly consider the RT Adventurous and also 210P. Amazing warrantees, like the underhood gennie idea, and the factory is about an hour from my hme. But PW's designs, decor and quality reputation sealed the deal for us - bouth the model with the fancy optional radiused "White Chocolate" cabinetry. It is 2019 and they come with a few new features - Lagun articulating table, bose sound bar, resonator on the Onan exhaust and a few other features. Roll on September - can't wait! Brian ...... Burlington Ont.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
oh wow! congratulations! I am soooo jealous. I love the ft and the white radius cabinetry is so beautiful. plus you're getting all the 2019 goodies and upgrades. well done! if you don't mind, if my channel helped you at all please let PW know by filling out this form. both you and I will get a $250 rebate! pleasureway.com/reward/ My PAC number is 837
@Wingeezer
@Wingeezer 6 лет назад
Your videos certainly did have an influence on me, and I will be happy to fill out the form! I watch several other folks who do B reviews and learn something from all, but find yours to be the most informative and valuable Many thanks for what you do. We started out with a VW Westphalia, and after three travel trailers looks as though we are coming full circle - well, sort of !
@Wingeezer
@Wingeezer 6 лет назад
Done!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
thank you!
@Wingeezer
@Wingeezer 6 лет назад
Hi Neil, Not sure if you automatically get advised, but we picked up our 2019 Plateau FL last Thursday and I submitted the reward form to PW today. Best regards .... Brian M, Burlington Ont. Can.
@___Angelica
@___Angelica 6 лет назад
would you mind saying where you were? was that rv place in the bay area? good video, thank you for sharing.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
hi angelica. I was at HappyDaze RV in Sacramento!
@owenmcomber2982
@owenmcomber2982 6 лет назад
Great, looking forward to it.
@ShutteringEvents
@ShutteringEvents 6 лет назад
Thanks Neil....
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
thank you for watching mark!
@anthonycbrown1952
@anthonycbrown1952 6 лет назад
You are firing on all cylinders with these Class B reviews. Your assessment regarding Pleasureway is spot-on. Did you make the trek to Livermore or Sacramento to get you van repaired? How was the drive? The only place I feel Pleasureway can make needed improvements is in their bathrooms. I hope they have an opportunity to rethink what the company wants in terms of a serviceable bathroom. For a Class B van, I think companies should strive to do what is available in a airplane - Compact, Easy to Clean, Modern. No plastic sinks, no exposed screws, no exposed drain pipes, no cheap faucets. Smaller scale but serviceable. YT Video - US Airways Express Embraer E-175 toilet.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
what a fantastic comment about class b bathrooms! i agree totally. there's not reason why they can't make them more serviceable, clean and finished looking. even PW has a challenge here except with their flagship XLTS. that bathroom is fantastic. no exposed pipes, no plastic sinks, wonderful materials and execution. so they've shown they can do it. will review that video on the bathroom on the Ebraer - thanks for sharing!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
anthony, i made the trek to Sacramento and it was a bust. they begrudgingly agreed to see me even though i didn't buy my van from them. i had to book 2 months in advance. when i got there they said they couldn't do the most important repairs as they'd need to keep the van for a week. i said "this is my second car!". They said sorry. so it was a bust. The drive was great. I always love just driving my Ascent. it's a load of fun. while i was at the dealership i managed to do video reviews for 5 pleasureways, lol! This video was one of them.
@kellyc2425
@kellyc2425 6 лет назад
The wet bath is a deal killer. Please review the Plateau XLTD and XLTS.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
hey there Kelly. i did recently do a review of the XLTS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZAa8PMNskT0.html
@susanwes
@susanwes 6 лет назад
Hmmm...on those Velcro tabs...couldn’t they just reverse them? Put the soft side on the wall/window frame, and the harsh side on the blind. Then you don’t bump up against them or even have to touch them to place the shades.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
luckily Susan on the 2019 models they have removed them and replaced them with magnets.
@jkickinutube
@jkickinutube 4 года назад
You said this van was 24 feet? I dont believe that it is that long? Thanks and Cheers! Jon
@petestjeanohio686
@petestjeanohio686 3 года назад
The FL is 23.9 ft. We are buying the 2022 this week.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Год назад
Yes it is!
@madusan1
@madusan1 6 лет назад
How do they get away with putting velcro for a high end van? I agree with you on theis one... would be nice to hava magnetic strip?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
great news: 2019 models have replaced the dreaded velco with magnets like I suggested!
@madusan1
@madusan1 6 лет назад
Love it but as you do I dont care for the hanging closet that basically eliminates the back driver side seat. They could have made the cabinet half width and that might have given back the need space to sit... The half step in the front I'm not a fan of as I see it as a trip hazard... might not happen all the time but even once would not be fun
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
yep good insights jon.
@alaskandww
@alaskandww 6 лет назад
Is there any other comparable B or B+ with the same level of premium quality of Pleasureway that is suitable for 3 adults?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
check out the class c's by Phoenix Cruiser. Their quality seems to be pretty high. Leisure Travel Vans is okay quality. They used to be higher but seem to be cutting corners recently.
@alaskandww
@alaskandww 6 лет назад
Thanks, I am wondering if things are changing since Earl retired from Phoenix.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
oh did he? I didn't know! thanks for sharing that.
@ShutteringEvents
@ShutteringEvents 6 лет назад
Wondering, what dealership in the SF area you saw the FL at? I am from that area.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
hi, mark. i was at HappyDaze RV in West Sacramento!
@MsKG-nl5ot
@MsKG-nl5ot 5 лет назад
This is really nice, but i rather give up the back lounge seats and instead get a dry bath. Otherwise nice layout
@josephbianchimano5672
@josephbianchimano5672 6 лет назад
hi neil , do they sell pleasure way vans in the usa ? or only canada ? Thanks
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
in the us. use this locator: use this link pleasureway.com/locator/
@ramonaburns605
@ramonaburns605 6 лет назад
Have u done a video on vans under $70 thousand such as Carado axion, Banff etc?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
not yet - would be a short list!
@billyjohnson2871
@billyjohnson2871 6 лет назад
I love pleasure way, the refrigerator and microwave at eye level. airstream can't even do that on a 175,000 RV. This january I will by a pleasure way with gods help. a 2014-2016
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
i'm praying for you billy!
@atle3497
@atle3497 2 года назад
You try to give the video more brightness it will be great if you do
@ran6110
@ran6110 6 лет назад
Another good presentation Neil, well done! This is my favorite Pleasure-Way layout for their non-XL models. Their Lexor FL model just doesn't compare to this. For me, the layout just flows well and with the galley in between breaks the unit up into two well-defined spaces. I agree with others that Pleasure-Way really needs to bump up the Lithium to 400Ah or optionally more. But unlike Leasure Vans, Pleasure-Way has at least seen the future is Lithium! I don't like the refrigerator, but we've drug that through the mud enough and I really think that sooner or later they will start feeling customer pressure to at least add, if not switch to compressor refrigerators. I do wish the hanging closet could be removed since it makes the hassock underneath it just wasted space. Maybe they could have an option to remove the hassock and put in drawer space under the closet.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
lol yes the refrigerator debate is quite muddy indeed. tell me why do you think you need 400ah or batteries?
@ran6110
@ran6110 6 лет назад
Something about having 4800 Watts available instead of 2400 is comforting I guess.
@manlybryant2610
@manlybryant2610 6 лет назад
LOL so glad you made this video, love the tour, but why did you have to complain about how yours is different the whole time... note to self, don't nag in the next video ;)
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
point taken. a lot of my viewers have been familiar with my ascent and so pointing out differences I thought might be helpful. most newer videos don't have me nagging really at all about my ascent! thanks for the comment!
@manlybryant2610
@manlybryant2610 6 лет назад
Haha, hey I got nothing but love and respect for ya man. I'm just being a critical keyboard warrior this morning lol. I'll have to take a look at your other videos, give you some likes and subscribe.
@larryrunning7164
@larryrunning7164 5 лет назад
Why has no one come up with a pull out couch for sleeping that can fold up with bedding ?instead of a electric couch that you have to make up every day.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 лет назад
you mean like a hide-away bed? I don't think there's enough space for something like that.
@bentleytran1442
@bentleytran1442 6 лет назад
The thing I don't understand why don't they add more sit belts ? Family of 5 or 6 they shit out of luck
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
I think it's a matter of getting government approval.
@VanOlove
@VanOlove 6 лет назад
Oh Neil, stop torturing me about that gorgeous Front Lounge. We vacillated before ultimately buying our 2018 Pleasureway Lexor. Although we try to park so that we can open our back doors to enjoy the view or breeze, sometimes, the best view (or privacy) is right out that big side door. With the FL, you can sit and enjoy it all from the front while eating or reading etc. Not to mention that some people wish to leave their bed made up all the time, and this FL conveniently allows for that too.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
lol - congratulations on your van! I do love me some fl love! if you found my channel helpful in your search and would like a $250 rebate check from Pleasureway just go to pleasureway.com/reward/ and enter my PAC# 837. You and I will both get a $250 check from them!
@AtlasRandGaming
@AtlasRandGaming 6 лет назад
$30k upgrade to lithium and more solar and this would be perfect
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
hey there. well it is lithium but 200ah. it would great if they made more lithium optional and more solar too.
@stacyhackney6100
@stacyhackney6100 6 лет назад
Nice
@Evermore2017
@Evermore2017 6 лет назад
I have no idea why the shower is the smallest space. Nobody wants to shower like this. Stick it in the back. And have the shower panele fold down, put an airbed on it that inflates in 20 seconds.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
that's an interesting suggestion OPUS thanks for sharing.
@Evermore2017
@Evermore2017 6 лет назад
Ultramobility Thank you. A regular bathtub is almost the size of a full bed. Do a murphy bed thing or just air bed the panel. I never want to shower in a restricted space. That is my me time and I want to wake up, stretch, shower with my spouse, etc. I would even do those handicap style jacuzzi tub full length - talking about a party in your van, then, pull down the shower wall orhave the panel somewhere (ceiling then lowered??) and blow up the airbed. Shower and bed can use the same space. Also...most world travelers are working from home and I would give up some storage and have an all in one washer and dryer and instead of entertainment which can be streamed to computing devices and aitpods....drop the entertainment in lieu of an office area. I also have a floorplan with a smart treadmill and treadmill desk in the can. Which is why I think I am unfortunately going to have to DIY. Wish you guys woukd sell shells and components so we can customize ourselves. Anyway...thanks for the comoliment and I like the videos. Gives me the ideas needed!
@Evermore2017
@Evermore2017 6 лет назад
I do love this van!!!!!!!!!
@Ameute
@Ameute 3 года назад
I was wondering how you stand in there to shower. If the toilet doesn't come out, there's no room between it and the sink.
@daseteam
@daseteam 6 лет назад
Thanks as always. If you run the cursor you get the interior and price. If these interest you. www.buerstner.com/de (you can change the language by tipping on de)
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
oh wow these are beautiful and look at those prices! i'm going to look up some RU-vid reviews and check them out. thanks for sharing!
@johnwinnerd8511
@johnwinnerd8511 5 лет назад
This reason people like these vans, you can turn them around in parking lot .
@JRMoritz
@JRMoritz 6 лет назад
PW stats 22’9” for the length. Still a bit longer than your Accent
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
yep 3 feet longer than my ascent which is 19 feet 6 inches.
@onejourney
@onejourney 6 лет назад
🎬 1 📽 🎞 🗣 🎙 🌎🌍🌏 ★★★★★ 🧐 Outstanding, thank you so much for sharing. ❤❤❤❤❤ 👁👁🚐 RV One Journey 🚐 🗺 No way can the two of us fit in that little BOXED in SPACE...Not bad workspace, however, I like lounging and working on my computer so my feet do not swell from hanging down for hours. I love the 24 Ft is perfect just park far away, Mr. UltraMobility. Also, you know I love the four Captain Chairs. 👁👁 look how large that 🚽 toilet is wow that would have to come out! Ultramobility, tell me about emergency escape procedures. Nice counter top...Oh, my...😋😋 This unit will last many years! I like your RV unit setup! Enjoyed this review Ultramobility...take care always a pleasure...until the next walk through it really helps Caveat Emptor. [Latin, Let the buyer beware.]
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
hey there One Journey. thanks for the comment and sharing your likes and wishes as well. these vans all have labels for the side and rear doors for emergency escape. the only potential problem with all these vans is the rear screen which can obstruct the handle to open the rear doors from the inside. great question.
@MarkWatsonSMTX
@MarkWatsonSMTX 6 лет назад
You need to take a look at Recon Campervan's Envy (www.reconcampers.com/envy). It looks like a well thought out van.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
want to do a review of these badly.
@gerrynightingale9045
@gerrynightingale9045 4 года назад
*Toilet/Shower is TOO SMALL in relation to all that extra coach length!* *Won't 'fit' in a standard parking-space without the 'ass-end hanging out'* *NO 'Volt-Start' and NO '48-volt Lithium' power-pack for $150-thousand IS BULLSHIT!* *Nevermind all the 'Gorgeous-th counter-top space-th' or a 'closet big enough for your 'Ballgown & Slippers-th'...this is nothing more than a 'small Class A' and NOT A 'VAN'* ( *Roadtrek beats the crap outta' that 'Ego Trip'...the '190' offers MORE for $100K and far more Hp and a 9,000lb. tow* )
@GOJ739
@GOJ739 6 лет назад
too bad it's not that family friendly.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
with the new inflatable bed for the front seats it can sleep 3 now.
@nochance1049
@nochance1049 6 лет назад
Your improper usage of English is very distracting. How many times must you mention what you own?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 6 лет назад
I don’t understand this comment.
@josephhenrylong3491
@josephhenrylong3491 6 лет назад
Nor do I.
@ucdungnguyen7831
@ucdungnguyen7831 3 года назад
You try to give the video more brightness it will be great if you do
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