2018 Toyota Land Cruiser: The Last Great Off-Roader? - Carfection 

Exactly. Why do we need to see his ugly face... If it's a review about a vehicle focus on thw vehicle

truestar1995 with you car in one piece.

truestar1995. I couldn't have said it better myself.

truestar1995 instead of buy a RR I would prefer lease

This is an old African saying and I believe it.

No, that is being said in Australia, it was: if you want to go to the outback, take a land rover, if you want to comeback, take a land cruiser.

Yes it is. But, on the European and UK market, this is the only LC we get, the LC V8 (or Amazon) is no longer available because of emission regulations. So them calling it a Land Cruiser without differentiating the model is not wrong.

That's not the reason for us in Europe not getting the real LC. The real LC also comes with diesel and V6 in other markets. In fact, the V8 models of the real LC aren't even the best seller around the world. It's just Toyota Europe brainwashed us to think the real LC has to be a V8 or called something stupid like Amazon! And now it is brainwashing us with this car. Soon again Europeans and British would automatically think this Prado as the real LC and be laughed by the rest of the world just like how Americans sometimes are laughed at by Europeans... One thing I don't understand is that why professional automotive journalists in Europe don't point this out!

If they sell the V8 LC in europe, no one will buy the RR . That's the reason

Dendy Putra Riswanda The Prado sold way more than the V8 here in Norway due to import taxes increasing with emissions and with fuel being rather expensive all over Europe.

In Latin America, or at least in Colombia we know it as the Prado too, we have the V8 too, I think the real name is Land cruiser 200 (the V8)

It's a LandCruiser reliability. Can't trust Land Rover, they will breakdown leave you in some remote place stranded. Done that!

250,000 for a Land Cruiser is absolutely nothing...ive seen LCs with a couple i million miles on the (reseted) clock and guess what...they still work like on day one...

b d same thing here in europe bro

Andrew Moorhouse what do you think of the Nissan Patrol?? Does it have the same reliability??

yes it does, we have 2 2000 pathfinders, mine is around 250k miles and my dad pathfinder is around 310k miles, still going strong, patrols are really good too, nissan and toyota are the best in my opinion.

Rafa el oh, the irony. cant speak of any modern mitsus cuz theyre irrelevant. (points and laughs)

Rafa el keep dreaming buddy. If it so good why isn't it still around ? Oh right 🤣

Obviously the Ford explorer is the best off-road vehicle in the world lol. Jk.

And a jeep will pull you put when your stuck

Jeeps are stacked a mile high at the rubbish tips in Australia. They make great artificial reefs and landfill.

It did get stuck in the sand once I recall from another guys video in another of these cars at the event, but otherwise yeah

It’s not as refined since it’s based on the Hilux You’re not very isolated and you have to deal with the Hilux’s stiff suspension Also you don’t get crawl control or A-trac with a center and rear locker in the fortuner, just standard 4wd and a rear locker

Agree The LC 200 is the best production offroader in the market right now

True, but some prefer the Prado due to it's narrower body. It's easier to fit between trees, boulders and so on.

In Australia we only upgrade to the 200 for towing. The suspension is also slightly beefier to handle long stretches of corrugations but the prado does almost everything for alot less money and its way less annoying around town. The 70 is a beast. But its super uncomfortable lol

+Disinf3ctant gudonchamate!

Sanul Wedaratne This new Prado is more close than ever to the LC200. It's like a small LC200 now, but still I would prefer a bigger engine, or at least a V6 Turbo or Twin turbos to make me envy to buy the Prado !

Jim Hat Lord that's really bothering me now... 😭😭😭

This guy.

Jim Hat drew stern. He swap his choker for another watch

Watch is more convenient and it's also a clothing item.

I didn’t even notice until I read this comment

I heard (true)Land Cruiser is not available and Prado is sold with the name Land Cruiser in UK. They say UK roads are too narrow for the full size LC, but I tell you what, Japan has even narrower roads but there are both LC and Prado.

Range Rovers are literally British i dont see how the roads are too narrow for the big land cruiser

ansaree97 Land Cruiser is a family name for the Toyota’s SUV and 4x4 vehicles. They are divided in series, this started with the 25 series, the first 4x4 from Toyota, then appeared the 40 series like the FJ40 the most popular. After that we have the 70 series also called hardtop which are the most crude and off road capable. Then the 100 series like this Prado and then the 200 series which simply named Land Cruiser or LC wagon. There’s a Lexus version of the Prado called Lx 470 and also a lexus version of the land cruiser wagon called LX 570. So the land cruiser name appear even on pick up trucks like the 79 series. The name was also part used in the FJ Cruiser because it was a kind of tribute to the FJ40 Land Cruiser. Is a complete family of awesome cars.

Your explanation is correct, but doesn't stand. First of all, not all Toyota's 4X4 are based on LC name. Only two 4X4s in Toyota's range use LC name, ie. Prado and the real LC. Secondly, just like Range Rover is a line of models under Land Rover's new naming strategy. But, there's only one Range Rover can be called Range Rover without any additional words behind. I mean you can't simply call a Evoque a Range Rover, can you. Evoque is called Evoque. If you've been pretentious, the maximum you can call it is Range Rover Evoque, but definitely not Range Rover! Therefore, unless it's the real LC (eg. 200 and 70), nobody should simply call a Prado a LC. But, they may call it a Prado or a LC Prado.

lovice Well about the name probably it depends on the market you are. Here the land cruiser batch is present in the Prados, the big Land Cruiser 200, the 70’s series (passengers and pick up) and on the old FJ series. All them are land cruisers, but agree with you regarding the 200 series is like the father of all. The original Land Cruiser. Regards!!!

That's the power of brainwashing...

Probably because the Prado name hasn´t been used by Toyota in Europe. The smaller Land Cruisers (better known as Land Cruiser Prado´s in Africa, Asia, Australia etc.) has always been called Land Cruiser in Europe. Even when the last "real" Land Cruiser, the 200, was officially sold in Europe. Btw., the Land Cruiser 200 was sold as the Land Cruiser V8, at least here in Scandinavia. It was only available with V8 engines here, and the name also told it apart from its smaller siblings. Toyota, amongst some other car manufacturers, uses different names on the same models, depending on which market they are sold.

The full-size Landcruiser isn't available in the UK, they only get the Prado.

Exactly!

I just love the folks saying this isn't a proper Land cruiser. Dude, you just prove you know nothing about these cars...

oclvcarbon123 only because you probably don't have any other choice

They are pretty different mechanically and in personality. The Fortuner is I think more sportier as is basically a Hilux with spirals suspension instead the leafs springs. The interior is different but the structure and trims are the same. The Prado is more... let’s say refined and is like a entry level to the big 200 series Land Cruiser.

justa crlon It's sold as the Land Cruiser in Uk since they no longer sell the LC200 there. I imagine the 200 is too wide for British roads.

It is. The UK doesn't get the full-size Land Cruiser.

This is Carfection, not Gayfection. Not that there's anything wrong with that :p I suspect he wants to keep one watch set to UK time while the other to Namibia time.

onoitsaWRX This is a Toyota Fortuner also called SW4. Is a Hilux based suv as the 4Runner used to be. Very off-road capable also.

Bong Lim don’t forget about the Mitsubishi Montero/Pajero/ Shogun.

Pajero is a piece of junk. My workplace used to have Prado's which were faultless for 550,000kms, but they then cheaped out and replaced them with Pajero's which have less interior space, drive worse, less comfortable and less reliable.

Hem57i Hum, hard to figure it out. I really like both the Prado and Pajero. On my appreciation they are very similar in space, but the third row in the pajero are better resolved so I think when not using it this have more space. In the Prado the third row is not always available. I think the seating position is more comfortable in the Pajero but both models are very similar. About the ride the Pajero have a better ride in road due it’s independent suspension. The Prado tent to float a little in the turns. If riding a gravel road the Prado is more comfortable due its body on frame. They are similar but with pros and cons as normal. Now in reliability I think they are even close. Other Mitsubishi products are not always at the level of Toyota, but the Pajero is an exception. They are fully produced in Japan and are really good. I have one and is very solid. I drive it in road and in some serious off-road situations too and zero problems as the 4x4 system is better than the Prados and have way more articulation. Me and a friend of mine use to work in construction projects and sometimes need to use very poor roads and climb very sloped roads and always my pajero works way better that his Prado. And don’t get me wrong, I like both, probably if the pajero is discontinued I will go with the Prado easily. But I like to be objetive and there’s hard to believe someone think the Pajero is that bad you say. Now there’s something important, mine is a Gas V6 engine, not a diesel. The diesel ones are a little slow on my opinion. Cheers!

I'm 6"3. The Pajero seams to have no leg space. Every time I get in the passenger seat I instinctively try to put the seat back but it never moves because it's already all the way back. In the drivers seat my leg seams to be always resting hard up against the door while I have my foot on the accelerator. The right side of my knee tends to get a little sore if I drive for long periods. I live in Right Hand Drive land. The Prado does float. First time I drove it I thought I was driving a boat down the road. After a couple of hundred thousand kilometres in 1 year, the suspension seams to feel less floaty. Not sure If I just got used to it or if the suspension just naturally got 'worn out' and less floaty after lots of use. We drive on rough dirt roads a lot. I noticed on one particular road I would do 40km/h in the Pajero and the entire cars was vibrating, it was uncomfortable and felt like something was going to break. A week later I was driving the same road in the Prado at 60km/h and it felt like I was driving on a cloud. We do very little serious offroading, but we travel long distances on gravel roads so maybe that's why I prefer the Prado. Highway driving is better in the Pajero, but I wouldn't say it's bad in the Prado. The Pajero steers like an old Pickup. Lock to lock is almost 3 rotations. The Prado is 2.5 or whatever most new cars are. First time I drove the Pajero through a roundabout at high speed in the middle of the night I almost drove over the roundabout. I turned quarter rotation while looking to the right like I always did in the Prado, then as I looked forward I see we were heading towards the roundabout rather than around it. A quick jerk to the left fixed it. The extra steering wheel rotation is noticeable in car parks as well. Pajero Dashboard and speedometer is not great to read. Especially at night. The font and colours are not easy to quickly read. Prado dashboard looks fine. The little trip computer in the centre of the dashboard in the Pajero is nice to have. Mitsubishi touch screen works well and has Apple car play. Toyotas system is useless, touchscreen barely works and no apple car play. Pajero looks better by far. Prados are far from a good looking thing. We only have diesels. Both are slow and gutless, but the Pajero seams really loud in a bad way. If it was a V8 I would say that's a plus, but I don't want to hear a 4 cylinder diesel. I guess it depends on what your needs are. There are over 200 people at my work who drive the cars. All the Prado keys disappear off the wall before the Pajero's do. I have even seen people walk out to the carpark with Pajero keys in their hand, see a Prado pull into the carpark they then ask the people getting out of the Prado for their keys and ask them to take the Pajero keys back inside and hang them up. My 2 cents worth anyway.

Hem57i Good! I agree on almost all of your observations. At the end probably is a matter of preferences. Both cars have a different approach and diferentes solutions for the customer.The Pajero don’t fit everybody expectations but for the ones it do is perfect. Both have pros and cons, but my point form the beginning is the pajeros are not bad at all, only different maybe. Thanks for the good chat!

Build. The LC has tougher components, heavier metal and is engineered with a 25 year life span on its parts. The sequoia is built to be a people carrier. It isn't as robust as an LC

I believe this was a Toyota Europe press event to promote the revised car.

You can definitely do tours like this in Namibia, through the desert.

It's called being original! No one said it's wrong wearing two watches ⌚️. That shows that he's not a sheep 🐑, but a dude who knows what he wants or like. If that helps boost is confidence I support him.

Mighty Mustache one is his traditional watch and the other is an Apple Watch for his fitness metrics, and also for a quick and easy way to read his messages and even take phone calls on the go without needing or using his phone etc. I don’t find him wearing both strange at all. Could easily be traditional wristwatch on one wrist and a Fitbit band on the other. Fitbit dabbles as a timepiece as well.

Makoto Shishio the 100 series is over 20 years old now.....200 series replaced it a while ago

guy proulx my friend has an 92 lc that never leaves the shop or his house now I'm not saying other people have the same experience but he has nothing but problems from front axle to electrical engine runs good.

guy proulx I work in a Toyota dealership trust me the have their problems otherwise tech wouldn't make any money. All makes have issues just go down to a dealership Toyota would be out of business is they lasted for ever.

guy proulx like I said I work in a Toyota dealership I am a tech. Don't get upset there is no money in making a car that last for ever.

guy proulx I wish that was true it would make my life and all my buddies in quick service dealing with recalls all lot easier

guy proulx I actually worked for ford and it's the same thing recalls but I make more money in Toyota for flag time more repairs and loyal fans like you keep my wallet fat

M-A L This is a Lexus GX460 in the U.S and Canada

Sport Mode You're right! Always mix up GX/LX. Toyota 4Runner is a good off roader at least if one can live without the refinement (and without the $$$ bill).

You can buy one. The Lexus GX is the luxury version of this land cruiser.

electrikoptik but I don’t want the luxury version 😞 it’s ugly

hmmm.. that seems to work.