2019 BMW R1250GS vs. R1200GS | New vs. Old - In-Depth Review 

How much ?

@@arjunpv_ 23k € - except top and side cases, handle bar risers, bigger windscreen, rear mudguard, side stand expansion and other small stuff like phone holder or handguard extension!

@@lino100x100 👊😁

@Mauro Fernandes i own both in family, and I don't see to much difference in power, the 1200 is a beast too. On my 2018 I refused to install the tft screen, because I believe it's more reliable the analogical one. (I also prefer the analogue gauges)

Thank you very much!

Thank you so much. The S1000XR is such a great motocycle! It's a superbike in a sport-touring upright riding position shape. I'd chose the GS only for it's off-road capabilities over the XR. But if riding only on street - the S1000XR is the best. Cristian

Thanks Christian, I aim to move about other parts of the world, where spoked wheels and some off-road ability will be safety and peace of mind. Have you seen the Cento 9 teaser on the BMW Motorrad page here? Looks like the 2020 version of the XR, same front of the soon appearing RR. Might have to widen the garage!

you werent wrong...

My 2014 feels faster than my new 2018! Maybe because the changed the weight of the crank!

That's certainly an intriguing country, often associated to tzigane who are a minority there. I have a bad image of that country but I'd like to go there some day to see for myself.

Thanks, Chris. If not going off-road, I'd trade my GS for an XR. We're waiting for you in Romania - there are some nice places to see. Cristian

Hello. You should come here. It's not that bad. Of course, it's not Norway either... :)) Cristian

keratubes hey lads. I actually lived in Oradea Romania for 2 years ( I married a Hungarian/Romanian). I’m from Australia. I can tell you personally that the food, the people, the country is just amazing, I love it. And I can’t wait to come back there.

DriveMag Riders hey Cristian. That’s interesting. I love my XR, it’s a great machine. I don’t do a lot of off-road riding, but I know Transylvania’ has some great mountain areas that are just great for camping/hiking. I do like this new 1250 with the increased power/torque. It will also give me the option of off-road riding and a little bit more comfort on the road. I’m planning on doing 6 months on Scandinavia and East/West Europe. I think the XR might be a little too small? Maybe !!

Well, the dogs were from a sheepfold :)

This is a correct response.

We didn't have a 2018 for a comparison but maybe we'll do it again with that bike. And there's one more thing. Why would you sell your recently bought 10.000 km 2018 motorcycle to get this new one? Thanks for your feedback, it's highly appreciated. Cristian

The gearbox on the 2017/2018, even though smoother than the one on the old bike in this video, is still really clunky, especially when shifting from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd.

@@DriveMagRiders ...come to Florida and you are more than welcome to use my '18 GS Rallye.....ha ha! Nothing like South Florida Keys ride!

I accept what you're saying Cristian a but maybe you could have mentioned this as you have tested the 2017/2018 GS Rallye in the past so have the experience. Anyway. I still enjoy your videos and will continue to be entertained by you both 👍

Thanks.

Can you share some costs you had? Did you have any problems with reliability of bike?

I agree 100%

Its the most horrible fucking "music" aswell.

then it becomes old again, and a new model will come out. no matter how you do it, it´s always gonna be a mistake getting a newer bike.

Nigel Collinson You can rest assured that you have made the right choice for your GS 2018 and I understand them, but the engine of the GS 1250 is clearly more flexible, more torque, but also more fun and easy to drive on the road and on the road. Off road ! it is not just marketing but a real improvement! I sympathize with your frustration! 😉✌🏽

@@gwadaflat No frustration? I took the new 1250 out and couldn't really notice any real difference. After all, its an adventure touring bike. It has more than enough power as it is. EU5 regulations only.

Nigel, the most important thing is that you're happy with your chioce! :) the 2018 is great. Better than my 2014. Cristian

Nigel Collinson Yes I agree with your opinion but in my opinion, it lacked a bit of torque and power, what can be felt when for example a passenger behind + luggage, this new engine brings! You know, everyone has a different type of riding and use! And I teased you a little, nothing serious and even less wicked! All GS are a good choice, mm the R80gs! Me I ride with my old, brave and faithful R1200GS of 2008 new schemas and which is today still in a near new state in its new matt military green color with the complete exhaust line Akrapovic Racing with the double exhaust silencer , and I'm happy, even if I admit that the R1250 engine takes another step in the GS, which does not mean that 2017, 2018 is bad! Let's say that it evolves each time a little and thankfully! 😜👍🏽✌🏽

DriveMag Riders I never said that his choice was bad, I teased a little! cool Man! Now, would he have made the mm choice if he had the 2018 R1200GS and the R1250GS before the eyes? that's a question, we'll never have the answer! Yes the GS 2018 is and remains an excellent vintage in the history of the GS! 😜✌🏽

Thanks, Bruce!

Thanks.

Multumim, Tiberiuss

I doubt it.

You and me both! The "Old" bike is plenty good enough for me!

@@luuk341 ..... Actually I found a used (1000mi) loaded 2019 1250GS.....at a Honda dealer, of all places. Sometimes you get lucky.

It's sort of a choice between the 1250GS/GSA and a KTM1290 SA-R. The SA-R is substantially lighter than the 2019 GS/GSA IMO.

Plus, buy a "year one" engine.

exactly.

I have a slightly different question - if you were considering buying a new GS today, would you buy a 1250 at full price, or a new 2018 1200 for $3k less?

Juan Posada New r1250gs. That would be my choice. Besides the shiftcam thing there are not big differences, but that new engine technology adds up a lot of fun and refinement. But that would be just my personal choice: the 2018 r1200gs is a phenomenal bike too. Cristian

Go for it. I will save thousands on a used 1200.

Artur Jaworski better than my 65k km four years old one.. probably. Cristian

@@DriveMagRiders Mine is 2016, 45k, I do not see point to upgrade, but it very subjective. The engine is new, I would wait at least a year and not play with the tester. Good luck with your decisions, love your films.

A 4 year old ford focus has probably lost 75% of it's value may as well just give it away than trade it in.

We'll just try another review.

I’II try next time not to hurt your feelings....

he was using the wrong technique....jus-say'in

@Mike X Haha that depends on how many children you (are planning to) have :)

@Mike X Better than never :) God bless them all...

Never a good idea to buy first generations! Wait at least 2 years wait til the recalls and some other problems or defects come out of public, wait til they correct them and them get it! Sweet rides! I have a vstrom 1000 very reliable and noble machine right now i’m counting months to get a gs1200!!

Hello. First of all thanks for watching. I think that having the original seat on the high set-up would work for your height. The risk is having not enough legroom - if that happens, you should go for the high seat. The thing with the windshields is that some aftermarket choices will give you wind buffeting - that's worse than the wind. Frankly, I don't have an answer to all your questions but my colleague, who's about 1,82 or something feels good on the GS in the standard set-up. As for those 135 hp compared to 160 - we'll do a comparison review soon. Still, I think the GS will match the KTM due to the great spread of torque.

DriveMag Riders Thank you! I really have to try one and see. Looking forward to that review!

​@@rodrigoafonso1995 Hi Rodrigo, which way did you go with the bikes, GS?, did it suit your height, and was the screen, wind buffeting an issue?