2019 Indian Chieftain Dark Horse 116! | Indian Demo Day 

Yep! Lol, it'll be a while before getting famous.

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Glad you enjoyed it. ❤️

LOL! I was enjoying myself too much. 👌😎

Agreed! 👌😎

Heh 😎😎

Why thank you ❤❤❤

Glad to be back!

Awesome! Glad you are enjoying it!! Put some miles on that beauty!

You know how we do ; ). And yes, that is gonna be a real hoot!

I have that exact bike. 2018 with black saddle bags and front high way bars. I love mine but I eventually will get the white smoke Springfield Dark Horse when I get a few bills payed off.

Giddy is good! Haha

That'd be a cool set up. Rumors are rumors. Sometimes they are true 😎

Yeah, the suspension is pretty good. You can't go wrong with either HD or Indian nowadays, though. There's some take and give with both.

Agreed!

I own uh Metallic color from Harley(Olive Gold).This Indian color makes me wanna jump!

Fo sho!

I hate you did as well! It was a real treat. Maybe next time 👌😎

A tad too much as always lol.

kencolle1 I loved it too. Rode the 111 and 116 today at the dealer demo. They seem lighter than the Harley’s. Plus it didn’t shake me to death

Oooooouuuu, I smell Indian purchases soooon. 😎

@@shoei07 they do seem lighter then you would hink..I was totally comfortable riding ,and that 116 I rode. Such a nice motorcycle.

@@BrandonBicasso Haha! Not yet ..couple years down the road. But I definitely see why people love the baggers,something I never wouldve considered before.

Preciate the love! 💪 I gotta get to ATL and ride with you and your crew soon.

My wallet is on call. These test rides are stirring up my thoughts as always, lol.

Lmao 😂😂😂😂 it's definitely a beast 👌😎

This is the issue that I am having. I really like the Chieftain Dark horse, especially with the stage 3 kit. I am looking at getting my first bagger and going all out as well. I just do not want Polaris to give up on Indian like they did Victory. The really have a good product. If I spend top dollar to buy the bike then go all out accessorizing it, I would like to think that the company will be around.

Indian is using the shocks you would find on the bigger ultra bikes. Longer travel, less sporty longer shocks.

Polaris was losing money with Victory and sales were consistently declining after their 2012 peak. Indian, meanwhile, broke into double-digit market share in three years...something Victory was never able to do in 19 years or even at its sales peak. I liked the Victory bikes...but at the same time, if you have a brand that's taking off and you can't build enough of them and a brand that sales are dropping, you're losing money and redesigns/updates need to happen...which one do you put the resources into? Indian isn't going anywhere. Sales are steadily increasing by double-digit percentages while Harley sales are falling by just as much. That's doesn't mean Harley is going anywhere, either. I have a feeling they will both be with us for a long time...as long as they both stay fresh. I have lots of Harley riding friends and I tell them that Indian was the best thing to happen to Harley. They updated engines, improved suspensions and improved the infotainment..all things that, simply, Indian was/is doing better. Oh, and I'll be keeping my fingers crossed you don't lunch that stage 4 M8...apparently, they like to come apart.

I don't think that will be an issue with Indian. They dropped Victory to capitalize on the Indian brand because of it's history and how iconic the brand is. It obviously turned out to be the right choice if you look at market share. I don't think there is a more iconic brand name that would cause the same kind of move going forward.

John M I’d love to have your confidence. Their market share went up initially, similar to when victory came out, but as soon as sales dipped, they shitcanned the whole brand. I’m not confident that they wouldn’t do the same with Indian if they were to see a similar sales dip after the initial boon

Yeah they are!

Whew.. I'm definitely gonna need more space. Just too many bikes to list on what I'd own from Triumph, Ducati, Indian, HD, etc. So many bikes. lol.

Yes, it is! 👌

Bang Bang!

Ayeee! Congrats on your future purchase! 👌😎

It had a stage 1 exhaust on it if I remember correctly. Also, not to mention the 116 Big bore kit and air filter upgrade.

Depending on price, probably the Chieftain simply because of the fairing and the touch screen ride command. Both look great, but that added feature is a plus. If I didn't want the fairing and did hangers, I'd go Springfield. The 111 felt faster than the 116 I'm guessing because of the Springfield set up. So, I'd imagine the 116 would be crazy. Lol.

@@BrandonBicasso does it come with a removable windshield I wonder? Likely accessory add on. I'm thinking Springfield with 116 would be pretty close in price to the chieftain limited 111 so that's a bonus right there.

@@threehemis5566 Yeah, before the '19s came out Indian was dropping removable accessories. I'd assume there is a removable or quick release windshield in there somewhere.

Thanks! 👌😀

Brandon Bicasso definitely going to take a test ride on this model

Haha, maybe! There's definitely a possibility.

@@BrandonBicasso I'll 👍on all of them for you.

Sport mode would've made it more choppy. On my Cali trip, I rode with in sport mode the whole time after getting used to it. My 109 is choppy as well so I'm used to it.

What's stopping ya! Go take a motorcycle course and learn! : D

The 116 is a kit! Not stock and a lot more coin 7,000 dollars of add-ons

@@sportglidejim9001 1ST you need the stage 1 kit. Pipe filter and tuner. Then you can have the 116ci kit installed .bIG BUCKS FOR THAT.

@@tax905972 yep! That's what I said

I've done my job 😂😂

The 116 is the better all around bike. I'm still drawn to the muscle and higher revving feel of the 109, though.

Naaaah, don't have the coin yet either.

Soon, though.

I did that before I pulled off. Only needed it to swap modes which is one press to do it.

I would be interested to see a dyno chart of the 116. The M109 is a beast, has roll-on torque that HD or Indian can only dream of normally. The M109 also loves to corner, just watch out for the pegs, it is really easy to drag pegs on the M109.

109 for performance. The high rev nature of it is intoxicating. Handing wise the 116 has a better lean angle, but the 109 is satisfying to lean through sweepers.

Hey, it gave me the feels man. What can I say, lol

Nah, my buddy Lenore has an '18 Chieftain and she's 5'2 I think. I'm 5'10 so boots will help. I think the windshield was fully extended, but of course it can be adjusted electronically.

I've ridden both the Chieftain and all the HD baggers. The Indian handled a little better, but honestly I felt the Harley motors had a bit more personality. Interested to see how the 2019 changes have improved the thunderstroke, I thought the stock 111 on the 2018 was a bit appliance-like. I've not ridden a 116 inch Indian (the demo I went to didn't have one).

If you are new, or are not familiar with design, then two cars like say 2018 Mustang and 2018 Camaro will look the same. And who cares? What is your point of reference? My grandmother does not really care about cars, for her they will look alike, and good for her. She is no "car man". On the other hand If you are interested in cars, or concerned with design, you will immediately see a difference. immediately! - I think that's the thing. Many people will have trouble seeing a difference between let's say a Ducati Panigale and, say, a Aprilia RSV4 RF - Its normal. They may have a certain interest in motorcycles, but they are not that interested. on the other hand when motorcycles are not something that really really interests you, It's a huge difference! - If you' are interested - or have a" trained "eye, or know anything about motorcycle history... It is another story. Ok, anyway, Having said that, it is clear that Indian goes straight for the throat of Harley Davidson, and they do it in style and they do it so cleverly. I think the "new" face of Indian, or should I say, the "other" face of indian are coming from bikes like the Scout Bobber, the new Springfield Dark Horse, and now the new Chieftain. Definitely from the same manufacturer. and you see family similarities, a bit rough, maybe darker, bit more in the background, more quiet sort of speak. - And then we have the rest of the family, which also more resembles each other, being majestic, classical,, and sort of loud. When you see all the Indian bikes together, you see that they are all related. This new Chieftain? I think it look great!

My 2019 RGS with the 114 will walk all over the 116 FACT

@@KevinButler816 fact I don't buy either I build what I ride store bought bikes are for little girls !......FACT ! Now don't cry like a little bitch ok

The 2019 RGS is a cool bike, But Indian Chieftain has a smoother, more watch-like quality than the Harley street glide , If you're looking at the chassis, front and back suspension, spaciousness, electronics, lean angle, engine design, driving characteristics etc, The Indian Motorcycle is better. Sorry, but it is true. And the Indian has its own distinct and visceral personality. and a fresh design. The Chieftain is a future Classic,. But you may be right, maybe the RGS is faster, in a straight line, I donT know, but I doubt it. Anyway, we do not buy these bikes because they are the fastest we could imagine.

Haven't looked at it, but could always go after market.

This was before the 116 came standard on the 2020 models.

@@BrandonBicasso Yes, but I was wondering if it has the same kit. Was this before Jerry bought his white one, and before he added stage 2, or was it stage 4 (making it the 116)?

@@ut1004bp there are some differences between the BBK 116 and the one that is standard now. He only has 585 cams on a 111 bore.

@@BrandonBicasso but the bore doesn't change with the add-on 116 kit for the 2018 and 2019 models (?), and I suspect same bore/stroke on the 2020 OEM 116 option

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Sorry, missed your comment. Comes out the hole with the 109. 109 takes it on mid to top end.

@@BrandonBicasso I seen some of the concept designs of the new 1 coming...I bet we get a disappointing design....

@@MidwestBrotha Of the new 109 or Indian?

@@BrandonBicasso Indian...I dont the the 109 needs anything but better paint schemes to the Boss editions...2 color max, black and whatever works. If they could do a new design it better just as epic as what they already have.

@@MidwestBrotha I wish they'd update it to compete with the XDiavel/Rocket 3. Add a bit more tech and lighten the load.

It really is. 👌

To an extent, yes. You can adjust the suspension by letting air out of the rear. A kit comes with the bike that does that. Can also go a step further and get a lowering kit to alter the stock height. Also, there are different seat and handle bar set ups for shorter riders. ❤

Oh, nice! It's a great couch to ride! Lol.

Yeah, the like the new Cheiftain over the classic myself.

@@BrandonBicasso That new 1 looks too much like the Harley, I think it's that big ass front end on it...I dont like that....its not sleek n sporty enough for me....idk. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kMD7diOEKRo.html Idk!!!!

Nah, the Indian likes to be free and stretch its legs. 😂😂😂

Yeah, the sound this thing makes is intoxicating.

Oh yeah! The 116 engine puts out an exhaust sound that you can't get enough of.

At 5'10" I felt the 2018 chieftain was a little light on legroom, but the seat to dash distance was ok, slightly better than the street glide. The HDs definitely have more footroom once you ditch the heel shifter. I liked the road glide the best out of the HDs, even if that fairing is yuuuggeee. The sound of that 116 is really nice though.

Rode the new Chieftain with 116 ..very nice bike...but still doesn't run like my Victory XC when you get on it pass 60..

My bank roll ain't big enough to take down that temptation yet. 😂🤓

Do a go fund me page for my retirement piece! It’s a need every man should have.

Yeah, it's obvious where Indian took some design elements from, but I do think you can tell them apart.

They thought to make something for the people that aren't with the classic looks of the Chieftain. There's room for both. 👌😎

Honda. Yamaha, & Suzuki went the same way. Copy Harley. I ride a 2016 Chieftain

Maybe so. We like what we like. 👌😎

It's a lovely machine. 🤷

Maybe. My bank roll ain't high enough yet. Working on that. 😏

Wish they made it light up. :/

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Legend has it that if you listen closely, Bicasso is still blubbering till this day.

It used to look a lot more basic before the ride command.

It does. Stock system in the fairings and this specific one had the added speakers in the saddle bags.

Not gonna lie... That Chieftain had me wanting to go in debt, lol. It's a nice ride and I can say I felt something when riding it. I probably would on a street glide or anything else, but this one felt right.

Well before you take on such a price, try a good used alternative, 1700 Roadstar or Stratoliner 1900 and see if the Indian 116 still has that big shine to it. But with that said, when/if I trade or sell my Stratoliner, I would certainly consider the new model Indians

Lol, it felt THAT good. That seat had me ready to risk it all! 😂

You and me both 😅

indian might have been before harley, but they have been in and out of business over the years, while harley has remained. they had a real unique look with the chieftain, but now this just looks like an imitation street glide, the street glide was 1st and they made this look like it. i am a bike enthusiast i have no brand loyalty if its good i will ride and buy it, i think the dash looks quite antiquated compared 2 the harleys, i dont know why with a complete overhaul they didn't make that look better. i will say this about indian, they give u a lot of stuff stock that u would have 2 get a cvo 2 get on a harley. i also love the sound out of the gate.

Harley made the fairing with saddlebags, no lower fairings or tour pack popular long before Indian as well as victory and all the others out there. It came to be in 2006 before Indian made a comeback .it came to be with the street glide because many riders removed those tour packs and lower fairings from their Electra classics.

This is a demo ride, not a review. Plenty of reviews out there. Carry on 👌😎

Sorry B you were critiquing the bike so it sounded like a review to me. Your throttle noises got to me.

@@ugoboy99 I'll try to state that next time. At the demo rides I don't have the chance to get more in depth with info on them. Some demo day instructors are already funny about people recording as is lol.

That was the point of the cinematic shots 👌😎