I like my little chinese bike. Issues yes but great for commuting, riding trails, and dirt roads. You learn alot from these bikes and if you dont like to tinker and cuss then it is not the bike for you. I have learned a good bit about riding and minor repairs from mine for sure. TMEC 200/ Denali 200.
I love my Hawk, it arrived in pristine condition, I ride it almost every day, it’s amazing. I recommend the Hawk to anyone wanting an inexpensive enduro. Looks like this guy got one that was damaged in shipping. You can buy them from a local dealer also so you can see it in person before purchase
Idk about y’all but I have a hawk 250 carbureted and it was my first Dirtbike. Literally changed the chain, got a new rear and front sprocket. New spark plug. Mikuni carb, performance air filter. Aftermarket exhaust. And last but not least new nuts and bolts. And it gave me a run for my money. I have 4,800+ miles on odometer. Which eventually gave out buttttt who needs one of those anyways. ITS THE BEST STARTING BIKE whether youre learning or experienced rider!
The front sprocket of any Japanese bike does have a little play(they should) and wobble slightly, at least all the Japanese bikes I have owned, 20+. What determines the position is the keeper plate you bolt on and where it lines up with its groove on the output shaft. I think the only reason you are having trouble with the chain adjusters can be that you have tightened the chain with to much slack in the first place using your strange and unknown to mechanics....Tie it up technique .....30+years riding and fixing my own bikes and never seen that gem. Get behind the bike on the ground where you can access all the components the and adjust the chain whilst looking down the top of the chain from front to back , usually 30mm play when you grab the chain and lift it after tightening. Rear sprockets are sometimes mounted on rubber wedges ( all inside the hub with no clip holding it together) allowing back and forward dampening ( sort of like the thing you just defeated with washers) but the swing.arm being bolted up squeezes all this together. Sort of looks like your sprocket bolts were rubber mounted for some reason, oh well wont matter now. Those rear suspension swing arms from china always look like there is a spacer missing to me because the whole unit squeezes in with the axle nut ,be careful that adding that extra spacer has not thrown out the alignment of your disc brake caliper. believe
I watched both part 1 and 2 of this, you got a bad deal but it is the only bad review I've seen of this bike. I would rather spend $2,000 and need to do some work on it myself then spend $12,000 for a name brand bike, some of us can't afford those things in life.
the front wobble is intentional by design, helps compensate for alignment stresses and side to side play. Maybe yours was too excessive I couldn't tell from the video. Regardless thought i'd mention because plenty of bikes are designed like this.
there are four studs and nuts that attach the rear sprocket to the wheel. Also the rear wheel is not tight enough, causing the gap at the spacer and chain going out of adjustment. The axle bolt not being torqued enough is a VERY DANGEROUS situation.
I am strongly considering getting a Chinese motorcycle because brand new they're half the cost of a Japanese counterpart, that being said I'd really love a new Honda 250l
the idle problem sounds like a vacuum leak most likely the little plastic intake between the carb. and the head, be careful not to over tighten, it will distort...watch motocheese and he can show you everything you need to know about china bikes
Hey m8 , check the valve lash . Min had the same issue .. i was certain it was a vacuum leak .. after testing and appling gasket maker to the intake neck before the block and and carb .. i learned that the manufacturer just tightens till it clicks .. The exhaust clearance should be check and measured at .004mm and the intake at .003mm Made worlds difference for me . Good luck
@@tonycstech seriously? Well ... Only other thing I can think of is fuel supply and cdi (ignition). Try using a water bottle and a new fuel line to the carb to test that theory. . But from what I have seen you go through already, I wouldn't be surprised if the engine wasn't tighten down correctly during assembly
@@tonycstech was it out of whack ? When you adjusted the valve lash ? If so maybe redial the carb .. could be to rich or maybe the sparkplug is already fouled up .. maybe a quick clean of the spark plug .. Sorry I wish I could actually direct you .. but all I can think of is retracing my steps before checking other stuff .
By your video it seems to me that you are better at telling stories than repairing a motorcycle, I use to own that same type of motorcycle, I never had an issue... Sold it because I want it something more powerful....
That's crazy. Only issue on my hawk so far was a wiring short in the start/killswitch button and the front axle bolt was missing. X pro sent out replacements with expedited shipping bit I fixed the short myself and have an extra button laying around. The stock carb is junk, always buy one with the bike.
After initial assembly, Re tension all bolts, chain, grease,. Change the battery, DON'T expect quality from China. If you did in some point, it's your fault.
@@tonycstech I hear you. As I worked with a Chinese motorcycle manufacturer couple decades ago, I don't think they have changed at all. No one has any experience with building a motorcycle or anything similar. Most of the employees are from farmland.
You could be the Koolest classroom teacher ever or the funniest reversed technology mechanic on RU-vid, I'm serious man, I needed help with my bike, a good laugh, confirmation that this design was janky asl, and immediate culture manufacturing identification reckoning lol . Make more videos & thanks!!!
I've watched many of the vids on these Chinese "ship to your door" bikes for under 2K, you've had more problems than most. I'm thinking of getting the HAWK DLX, seams to have fewer problems than most other bikes and it has EFI which is a big plus, wish me luck.
I have the Hawk DLX EFI. I love it. I wish it had a 6th gear. But it has been great. Just make sure everything is tight. I took bolts out and put Loctite on them all. But it runs great.
From all the information I've gotten on these so far it sounds like you have to put double into the bike than you paid for it to even make it safe and usable. You might as well buy used real bike with the money you're going to have in fixing up one of these things
I had one of these bikes. They are fun to ride and surprisingly capable off road. That being said they are built like crap out of other crap and will eventually crap out on you! Every bolt is soft and ready to come loose at any moment. One time my front brake caliper came off on the highway. The rear sprocket bolt things sheared. The speedometer cable snapped. My advice to anyone buying one of these is save your pennies and buy a name brand bike unless you LOVE to tinker and want something that you can work on every weekend instead of riding
Sounds like you're definitely not mechanically inclined. I love working on my bikes cars ATV ect. Always do research on stuff. Like i did and I bought two I'm not scared to work on them and modify them at all. I'm guessing you probably don't even change your own oil
@@patriotrob7066 All the problems I list it off.. I FIXED! It’s not that I’m not mechanically inclined it’s that I don’t like having a piece of equipment that is a CONSTANT problem. So don’t get one if you plan on riding it hard or if you are not mechanically inclined. I’ve done more engine swaps, brake jobs, repairs and lift kits then you can shake A stick at. I currently live in a home that I built. I didn’t pay some dumb asses to do it, I did it. I have more important things to do than tinker on a bike that is always breaking. Plus I take shits that are more mechanically inclined than you. Fucking Internet trolls these days"......
Not to mention I’d commute on the highway @ 60 mph, went off road everyday for a whole summer. MY HOMIES GROM WAS KEEPING UP WITH ME, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. The bike fucks if you keep up with maintenance every 1,000-2,000 miles. If you’re finna get this bike make sure you get all the upgrades or else you’ll just have issues throughout your time owning it. Just like the guy who made this vid🥲😂😂😂
Man that is Amazing... I have a red RPS hawk 250 Enduro that I have had absolutely no issues with at all ....! The Front sprocket or the back sprocket ...., I just have no issues...! ! ! I have three other motorcycles I’m on bikes my whole life in fact one of them is my custom Harley but when I received my 250 Enduro I put a little grease on the front axle, I did loosen the chain to my liking but the sprockets were not loose....! I have a Honda 230 trail bike and it does have a plastic chain rail on the top of the swing arm and if the rubber one on my hog eventually wears out I may put a hard plastic one on there but I wouldn’t really call that a headache or a issue....! I mean you need to cut this Bike Some Slack Dude....., I bought the motorcycle for $1449.00 delivered to my door with no tax total $1508.00 ...! It is way better out of the Crate than I expected....! Anybody who buys a motorcycle with some assembly required should check everything out I just didn’t have any of these issues that you did.....🎵🎓🎶🤟🏻
Right? chains stretch and bike seat in to where it should be. The DMV where you get you motorcycle license says to do pre ride safety check on most components and you should get more familiar with your bike too. Super easy to check valve lash and bolts and a dab of locktite where possible too wouldn't hurt. My 2017 kawasaki versys they didn't bother plugging in my taillight connector all the way
qc is definitely all over the place. some good ,some not. So far the only problem with my tao tao is the carburetor is trash. replaced it immediately and runs like a different bike.
Over 5k trouble free miles on my 2020 carbureted Hawk 250! It sure helps to know a thing or two about how engines work! You seriously drilled a hole in your throttle plate? WTF man...
My hawk wasn't running too great until I unbolted half the exhaust now she runs better than ever, before I removed the muffler I had to ride on 3/4 open choke, no matter what it would not idle all the way open, no jetting or carb replacement allowed fully open, it went from not working to working 3/4 so i took that, then said fuck it took off muffler the very first start up without muffler she held idle fully open instantly with ease and it doesn't even sound bad sounds like a Harley now
HAVE OWNED AND WORKED ON COUNTLESS CHINESE MOTORCYCLES, QUADS AND SCOOTERS IN THE LAST TWENTY FIVE YEARS. QUALITY VARIES DEPENDING ON THE FACTORY THAT PRODUCED THE BIKE. I CAN PUT TWO OF THE SAME CHINESE BRANDED BIKES TOGETHER SIDE BY SIDE AND ONE IS SOMETIMES NOTICEABLY OF A HIGHER QUALITY, BUILD AND SOMETIMES MATERIAL THAN ITS IDENTICAL COUNTERPART. IT MIGHT BE BRANDED AN RPS HAWK BUT COULD BE MADE BY ANY NUMBER OF VARIOUS CHINESE FACTORIES. SOME HAVE GREAT QUALITY CONTROL OTHERS SEEM TO HAVE NONE. THE BEST MOST CONSISTENT BRANDS I HAVE SEEN FROM CHINA IMO WOULD BE SSR, PITSTER PRO, ZONGSHEN, BASHAN, APOLLO AND QLINK.
just got mine 3 weeks ago, new carb and better grade tires and chain, its great, remember to fill the oil, it comes with almost NO oil in the motor, and use 90 grade gas, it says right on the dam book it comes with,
I enjoyed your video and yes. It's a crapy toy but for the money, I think it well worth it. I got one on August and did 2 long distance trips around Florida. Yes, had few issues but manageable. On coming May, we are dearing to make TAT 2up to Seattle and back. Hawk will not have much mods. Just trying to show and chear the community that it could do it. Check us out on Hawk's Facebook page. 👍
@@tonycstech There are always a few bad apples in every barrel. I plan to get one of these and luckily, my husband is great at "tinkering" with things same as you. We currently have Chinese scooters (Tao Tao Lancer 150cc) and haven't had any issues except a starter needed replaced on one which was covered in the warranty. They are all broke in and ride like a dream. Unfortunately, it made us want motorcycles so we can go on gravel roads and offroad, which the scooter can't do very well, so the Hawk 250 will be an "upgrade" for us. Hopefully we will have the same good luck with the Hawk 250's as we have had with these Chinese scooters.
@@tonycstech The hawk isnt a BMW Dont expect a perfect product especially after seeing damaged box and not caring to get a return. The hawk is on the cheap side but seems like you got a bad batch.
First of all what did you expect from a $1400 bike? I dumped $600 in mods and it runs like a champ. From battery cables, Full led swap, added running lights, added pod light, Nibbi PE30 carburetor, sprocket chain, and accessories the bike runs and start like a Japanese. Oh for the back wheel moving there is this tool called a torque wrench. 65 ft lbs is what the manufacturer says. Torque it to specs and it will not move.
It the very least, I expected straight welds which I didn't get. I expected parts fit which I didn't get either. I don't expect parts quality, I expected them to fit.
The swing arm geometry is fundamentally wrong. The chain tension magically changes depending on how much the rear suspension is compressed. It is _impossible_ to get it right because it is constantly changing.
You're not wrong, but some are much better than others. The closer the swing arm pivot is to the front sprocket, the less the chain tension varies over the full travel of the suspension.@@DenverDeCoY
@@solarguy6043 fair, but of course we're talking about the cheapest "dirt bike" on the planet so can't be too picky. Mines over 5k on the odo and no chain/sprocket problems 👍
If you don't know how to *properly assemble* the machine, it will have problems. Check out Motocheez if you want to do it right, he has bought almost every version of those bikes, and most have thousands of relatively trouble free miles. Otherwise pay a dealer to do it right.
I guess buying one of these is cheaper than taking a voc-tec class on motorcycle maintenance/ repair. And in the end, when you finally get tired of walking, you got a stand to put your mt beer cans on for target practice.
For not much more than a hawk you can get a sports bike the df250rts or otherwise known through the cellar x22r by Venom Motorsports riding some class with a 250
So these bikes are so bad why are 80 or 90% of the reviews positive and since you ordered it from Amazon you can just send it back and get a replacement that isn't damaged
I have a 250cc China motor in a buggy I built I had the mikuni tossed it for a ttr230 carb runs perfect and has the most power I’ve felt out of this motor
Tony Nameless use a 115 jet, a 25 pilot jet. And cut out the catalytic converter. Also check your air box after every ride for excess oil build up. Drain the air box after every ride or get a reservoir. I got mine on the cheap because a guy let his paper air filter get wet with oil. That caused it to not run at all, and he did everything accept check the air box. So I got a 1500 dollar bike for 500 because he didn’t check his air filter.
My 2019 Hawk DLX EFI is great. Love it for just causing around the back roads. Do wish it had a 6th gear and a little faster. We have speed limits of 65 here.
It could be worse.You are mechanicaly inclined and able to work on the bike yourself.Many people would have to take the bike to a mechanic and pay for parts and labor. -
Every Chinese motorcycle there is a list of things that automatically need to be replaced from day one carburetor all fuel lines fuel filter the vacuum fuel shut off replace it with a petcock valve Chinese motorcycles are not made for gasoline with ethanol like we use here in the United States and it will destroy all the seals and hoses and everything else that has rubber if your bike has tubeless tires replace the valve stems for your own safety the Chinese valve stems have a tendency to come popping out and your front tire deflating instantly which is no good when you're doing 50 miles an hour down the road and the battery all the fluids and the chain if your bike is a scooter and has a CVT transmission also replace the CV transmission belt they make better ones also when you're assembling the bike make sure you check all the welds you might as well take a little spray paint and go over them just so they don't rust later on down the road check all the wiring use a little wiring silicone to protect all connections and wiring harness connectors double check all your grounds three grease and repack all of your bearings wheel bearings and neck bearings buy a can of clear coat spray paint go over your headlight plastic gauge instrument cluster and any other clear plastic you wish to remain clear get a small bottle of touch up paint go over every single screw and bolt on the handlebars and anywhere else that might come in contact with water because if not they will rust....... Then you have rules to abide by never ride this bike in the rain never get this bike wet if you do when you wash it dry it immediately keep it in the garage or covered carport when you're not riding it use synthetic oil and non-ethanol premium gasoline take care of it and it might last a little while also don't forget plugs wire........ If you don't do any of these things you'll be fighting with keeping it running within just a few months and within two years you'll be looking to get rid of it and buy something else
A lot of hate for the Chinese here...but done with good humor. Thanks for the honest review, and this is the worst one (bike) so far. Your 3D printer was a nice addition to the video, but very few folks have one to use. You may have gotten a bad bike, and it rarely happens to just one bike. I don't want to get one like that.
I see you have a couple of Japanese bikes. You must be trying to punish yourself with this thing for some reason. Thanks for the video. I've been toying with the idea of a Chinese bike.... Maybe not... LOL!
@@tonycstech if your chain is hitting the frame your tension is too loose a drive chain should be set to flex 1/2 inch max with light finger pressure half way between the front and rear sprocket. Tension will need to be set when new, and again after a few hours of break in, and after that as needed. depending on how well you lube the chain how dirty the chain gets and how hard the bike is ridden.
To many nightmares purchasing these online. Not worth my time. Those online chinese bike dealers job is to make setup and purchasing online easy. NO INSTRUCTIONS INCLUDED. Buyer beware. Find a legit licensed dealer that sells these all done turn key, plug and play and registered for you. To save a dime, you spend $100 dollars.
You my friend are a true fucking trooper!!! I myself am mechanically inclined, but OMG....I know where it comes from, the price, and all that, but that bike as is would be a total lemon for anyone else, even me...I don't have all that equipment. I'm looking to get the TBR7...Fingers crossed!!! GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE BUYING CHINEESE MERCH THIS HOLIDAY SEASON!!!
I see you have a Yamaha R in the background. I know where you are coming from, I have a GSXR as well and you can't compare these bikes to Japanese bikes. Look at the price! You have to earn it by working and learning on it! (Which is part of my intention to purchase one). I got a Bashan as well and I would say it's marginally better in quality.
is why i said "what ever slack you want" in my case was exactly what i needed. I should have mentioned that too but the video was not much of an educational but rather a comedy.
and always remember grasshopper.........you get what you pay for!! these bikes are great, but far from perfect, they will require tinkering. remember a 2020 yammy tw200 costs $4599. Perhaps it may be wiser to save a bit more $$$ and buy one. :-)
Im curious to see if the mikuni carb will solve your idle issues. Mr Cheeze seems to have fewer issues with his. Im looking at the brozz 250 but leaning towards the TW. :-)
@@170bcuda brozz is a bashan built bike and are a bit better quality wise.I have the brozz's twin and it's been great. Ran fine out of box, mods made it better.
Great videos! Thank God I skipped this pos,an bought a Bashan. Much better quality as I had none of those issues. An I can just tell by looking at yours,. The Bashan is worth the extra money!
I’ve owned several different bikes all of them require work on something.All in all it gets people riding that couldn’t afford to otherwise. Maybe you wouldn’t have such a hard time with it if u bought American made tools
