2020 Civic Si vs. 2009 Cobalt SS | GOOD RACE! 

Cobalt SS T/C specs: K&N CAI ZZP intercooler: 28"x 8.125"x 4" ZZP Short shifter Stock turbo (KO4) / 15lbs Stock exhaust 140k miles No tune :(

With a simple tune that cobalt will gain about 60whp and about 100tq

The cobalt ss/tc, one of the most underrated vehicles from GM. I had a coupe that blew the doors off of a C6 z06. I was sitting at a very conservative 410whp with an S259et. Very fun car that I deeply regret selling.

Please make as many races as you can. I love them and I know others will

Traction control doesn’t allow the throttle body to fully open.

That's definitely way faster than you old 9th gen

The reason gm went from supercharged to turbo because the Eaton contract expired. The lsj is a better motor than the lnf.

I had a 2005 supercharged Cobalt with the stage 2. That was a really fast car back then very under estimated. The engine was German and the transmission was from Saab.

Ye bro, good runs , also yes you have to take off traction control when you racing, it will hold back a lot of power to prevent the car from torque steer or wheel spin.

Yoooo the cobalt was on DONUT media

Love cobalts and thier flimsy wings. Lol good races, imo the LNF is still a very good platform, just happened to come in an economy car.

Great content brother! It was fun watching!!

Nice runs fellas ! I got an 09 ss cobalt sedan and I love it . Just replaced the engine with another lnf with 30k miles since my old engine died at 110,000 miles but it’s running better then ever right now . Got tons of plans for her 🤙but great video👌

Do full bolt ons and that cobalt will rip, I promise you wont be disappointed at all.

Dude. I'm trying to buy a 2020 Civic Si, but not a single dealer has them here in Michigan. Been calling around for like the past month. I want to at least test drive one first, but I might just order one. Also, I was thinking of buying black or silver...what do you think?

Good race. Now off to watch the other video in your description! Wanna see the Civic AFTER the tune. ;-)

I know nothing about any of this, but I do enjoy your videos! Also, I like Sergio

cant wait to see the rematch after you get ktuner

GM switched from LSJ to LNF due to emissions

This how far Honda still hasn’t come with the si. Si can be so much more.

I have. Cobalt 2L turbo 26 psi at 420 hp ... Civic what civic ?

Can’t wait till you do wheels/suspension as well.

I have a 2012 Mazdaspeed 3 with a Cork Sport CST 5 Turbo with a boost control solenoid running 26-28 lbs of boost, Stage 3 clutch with solid motor mounts and trans mounts, Cork Sport HPF pump, Cork Sport cold air intake, GFB 50/50 recirculating valve, custom made down pipe and catless all 3" straight pipe exhaust running on a Cobb Access Port with an aggressive tune. I would decimate both of these cars off the line in 3rd gear and they'd be seeing tail lights the entire time once I hit 4 gear lol. Car is roughly putting out 440Hp and about 410lbs of torque on stock block and internal so far, Niche 18" wheels on Continental extreme contact sport tires, more upgrades to come in the future with a goal of 550-600Hp 🔥🔥 My son has a 2006 Chevy Cobalt SS Supercharged with 3" Pulley, Stage 3 clutch with all ZZP exhaust, header, solid motor and trans mounts sitting on coilovers putting out about 335Hp and 310' lbs of torque

In-fact, here you go. This is from my personal post on CivicX.com The short 7 step process below Once in your car, just press the engine start on two times until every things on (ENGINE OFF/ON EITHER WAY) FOOT ON BRAKE PEDDLE UNTIL SAID OTHERWISE, and make sure your parking brake is off before starting this process. Follow this, and it will work every time. 1. Parking brake on/off 2. TC OFF/ON 3. Parking brake on/off 4. TC OFF/ON 5. Parking brake on **FOOT OFF BRAKE PEDDLE ** 6. TC OFF/ON **FOOT ON BRAKE PEDDLE** 7. TC OFF/ON Then, crank your car if you have not yet. Again, it isn't necessary for you to crank your car before starting this process. Lastly, if you mess up any time during these steps. you do not need to turn everything off, just start from STEP 1 at any point. It is just like starting over. Also, you don't have to wait for the PARKING brake to fully engage/disengage to start the next step. I do this at lights with in 10-15 seconds. To confirm, your VSA/TRACTION control light will be solid on the right, and the left icon will be blinking very quickly. So a total of two lights will appear in the top left of your gauge cluster.

You would DEFINITELY take him with a Ktuner Tsp stage 1, makes a world of a difference trust

Miss my ss already

You guys got good energy man you’re not dicks .you seem like genuine good people keep it up

Chevy switched to the turbos because the contract with Eaton expired and turbo was the cheapest way to keep it boosted.

I see the cobalt's got a CAI but he didnt tune it? LNF's take to tuning well

My brother has this SI, But his is full bolt ons with tune. I have a Stage 2 2015 WRX and we are gonna run them this week. Can’t wait to see how it goes. His civic is surprisingly quick. Great car.

Dude this is awesome vids, I started following you because you are just in Roseville CA. I thought about getting the SI but decided to go with the accord 2.0t and now did a lot to it which my warranty is a goner. Keep up the good content. I follow another SI dude that he built the engine tho

This Cobalt exhaust sounds is pretty cool! I LOVE Honda SI...

The ecotec engine is a great engine, I just now finishing a conversion of a 2.2 into my Alfa Romeo spider, no turbo, it was tested on a engine stand, at 216 hp at 6400 r and 189 tq at 4200 rpm. And the tq is very flat from 1600 to 6100 rpm, my Alfa Romeo spider weighs in at 2380 pounds more or less. Can't wait to drive it, oh yes, the transmission is from a 1997 mustang, w/c t5 transmission

If this video was filmed in Mexico, how come everything at the gas station is written in English?

We need more races fam

This was fun. Really enjoyed the vid.

I've got a LSJ (supercharged version). All I have is a 2.9" pulley, charge cooler upgrade, and 60# injectors and I dynoed in at 255HP at the wheels. Lots of fun driving daily (In Canadian Winters lol). I'm pretty happy with staying in this power range, it's got a great fun-to-cost ratio. Only annoying part is the stage 2 cancer on my driver's side door. I guess it's weight reduction and theft protection lol

So now u have raced the same car with both ur civics, what is ur input on the two different civics? Still missing ur 9th gen? Cause I am planning on getting one, but up in the air between the 2.

Trifecta tune, 3” catless down pipe and cat back and e47 will get you like 320to the wheels

Get the ZZP ECU and you'll be happy until you can get HPT and get a custom tune. I have am FBO LDK swap in my HHR SS with the ZZP ECU @ 25 psi and I wax a bunch of cars. I am going to go Z54 or ZFR this summer hopefully and stay on 93 until I get bored then I am thinking E47.

He brought you to gapple bees

Go with an lnf Cobalt for bolt ons and tune. Go with lsj for an all out build. The lsj has a lot more of an aftermarket than the lnf. Turbo swapped lsj is a lnf's nightmare though

The cobalt ss was basically designed to spank the si all day long

I raced a 17 civic si in my lsj saturn and beat it, that was the same gen civic as this one

nice runs! i love seeing you beat on your 2020 before i do lol! just hit 500 miles on my od hahaha! good shit

2009 Cobalt-5k 2020 Civic si- 25k Cobalt wins, buddy must be pissed lmao

I don't know what to think about Honda those day's. My old 8th Gen NA Civic Si is lighter, gear ratio is better, sound sweet as fuck and push 15 more WHEEL Horsepower than the 2020 Si CRANK Horsepower. And it also have something automaker lost, it's actually fun to drive !

The horsepower and torque were 260. With GM stage one it removes the torque limiter and produces 340lbft with 280 ho

Would like to see this Cobalt race your buddies Focus ST!!

You should try and find someone to race you in a stock Cobalt SS S/C or stock Saturn Ion Redline. From factory they are rated 205hp. I think that would be an interesting race.

Cobalt ss is a beast, tons of torque and good brakes. DP, intercooler and tune make it fast

What’s best about these 10thgen is they respond great to boltons. KTUNER and TSP FTW!! If you wanna really hurt feeling go FLEXFUEL and TSP stage 2.

Fun stuff. Btw, man I hope you are rev matching on those downshifts lol

Your AC was on!! Lol j.k. I remember from the other video 😂😂

SS Are quick lil cars I’ve gotten mine to do 260 easily with the right tune and right mods u can get them cars to move

Nice video. Although I think you're shifting too early. You'll need that type r or an accord. If you want to compete with cobalt. Its rough because you're scared of Vtec. 20 roll woke up the engine. Then you shift to early in second...

Also you guys need tunes to get power from any of the mods!!

9th gens si stock aren’t match for nothing, bolt ons and tune the car will do miracles that you didn’t know it can make.. I raced a cobalt SS with a turbo swap he said about 320whp, dude couldn’t believe I took him off a dig and got em by a whole car. I have raced 2 10th gen si, one stock and the other one bolt ons and tune, both 20 and 40 roll.. stock 10th gen has no chance either roll.. but the tune 10th gen gave me a better chance, only beat me once by a bumper for letting limiter bounce (my fault lol).. I’ll say 210 which is fair for my setup but not really, with a good tuner should be around 215 or a bit more.. but when I put my rbc and a few extra upgrades I should be around 220 and then upgrade Tb,intake, rsx oil pump, e85, probably missing some parts but should rocket up to 230 maybe 232whp and 190ish torque.. 9th gens are hard to balance power but fast asf when done..

The Cobalt SS weighs 2900 pounds.

The wing on the civic jiggles like that as well. The one on my 2019 jiggles and its tightly secures on

Takes honda almost a decade to catch up lol

ive owned both cars so this is extra good lol. i got the ss balt i daily drive now

So, watching this video, your first problem is VSA is still on and you lost traction. Which means your car dropped all boost from that's 1st - 2nd shift.. You need to google "PEDDLE DANCE" for 10th gen civic Si. and do this again with the SS before tuning your car. You will hold 14psi from 1st - 2nd gear and rip him a new one to the end of 3rd. HUGE difference in these 2020's. I call it the "Cheat code" lol... its funny actually. P.S Just turning off VSA by pressing it doesn't actually stop your car from dropping boost. It helps, but still drops boost. This wont help your 2nd-3rd and up.

the ss sounds nice especially for stock. and the spoiler is not lose its automatic wind force adjustable

He said he stock 2020 si is rated at crank stock 205 hp but I have watched dyno runs that show stock horsepower for this car at 200 or 195hp at the wheels which means approx 220hp at crank

Clutch is slipping already ! I got 283 000 km on original clutch on my 06 ss sc 😉 owned for 11 years

The civic wasn't double clutching like he supposed to. He would've won. Lol

Have you fully disabled your traction control before going out? I cannot really tell if you have the blinking icon showing it as fully disabled. Start car, hold brake pedal, disable side brake, turn off traction control, turn it on. Engage side brake, let go of brake pedal, turn off traction control, turn it back on, leave side brake engaged, hold brake pedal and once again turn off traction control and turn it back on, but in reality it will fully disable it as you will see a blinking icon on the cluster. Now go have more fun with the car.

To go back to ur reason y GM changed from Supercharger to turbo was in 05 they wanted to do turbo from jump but were still under contract with Eaton so to save money they went with the supercharger, in 08 the contract was up, I have a 05 SS, Very underestimated car but bout LSJ and LNF are capable of crazy Hp upgrades, my only issue with mine is the interior looking so cheap, hate that shit

You still got the all season tires? No tune yet? That cobalt moves.

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Lsj can handle way more power stock that’s why most people build lsj s and strap a turbo on them

hmm i gotta try that, i got a 8th gen civic si, and ive done a few races, but ive never turned off the traction control

Break boost your civic when you’re roll racing. Should help on any roll race.

Keep up the videos bro.

30-40-60 rolls are cobalts best 20 is horrible but do tune vs tune Bc the cobalt will make around 280-300whp on just a canned zzp tune for $150

The cobalt is close to the same weight and has 260hp . It looked as if the cobalt was sandbagged to make the race seem closer.

Nice runs I always wanted an ss tc lil beast of a car

0:56 260hp to the crank that’s like 240 230 to the wheels is this men ok cause 260 to the crank is like 180whp or maybe 190 but idk bout that

Both are great cars but I owned a 2008 Cobalt SS and I miss it every day

The stock tune will negate any gains from an intake or similar bolt on. If they ever actually got 12 hp gain, that was before the ECU re adjusted

That thur 93 octane✌✌✌

I appreciate the uploads

Granny shifting not double clutching like you should

Not stock, upgraded intercooler, upgrade the civic intercooler and run them. It makes a big difference.

Quietest race ever

One common theme with his videos is that he always loses lol

Good runs brah. I said before I daily a '08 SS. Today we had a huge snow storm and even with my Michelin X ice tires it was sketchy. Not sure if it's the low end torque or just shit suspension but it handles so bad in the snow. It torque steers all over the place. Sometimes I wish I had a car with a advanced awd system. I think my Camaro was even better in the snow lol. Best kill I had was a c6 vert. I heard him floor it and I had my revs up high enough in 2nd gear to pull him and then nlf into 3rd and he was behind me the whole time. We came up to a light and said ya got me lol. I said it's all good :). My ws6 was faster but the balt is decent.

The cobalt turbo has the fasted times for FWD car at nurburgring until type r 2.0t came out. Before even watching this im guessing he smoked the Si. The SC mightve been a better race against the Si

I have an lsj and I beat my buddy with a k tuner

Shit should have kept my 5 speed cavalier pissed off so many people with it

If you live by twisty roads get a strut tower brace. I got mine first week I got my 2019 si coupe so I couldn’t tell the difference. Make a video on if you can see the difference or not. Great videos also!

Request Civic 1.5tcp Sedan vs Your civic.

Those 08-09 Cobalt SS’ were fast as shit. I use to race them in my FBO Mustang GT back in the day.

Nice video!

Lol that Cobalt isn't even red lining

Where in nm are you guys I have that a cobalt ss also

Hell yeah!! Glad to see another cobalt, check out my channel to see my brothers cobalt!

I got on 05 type s. Let’s race?

Put a stage 1 tune on