Great motivational video man. Thanks. My F350 longbed 7.3 is due in this week!!! Been waiting four months. I will never tow more than what you have. So I know from your experience that I’m going to be golden. Thanks so much.
I have a 22 F350 Lariat with the 4:30 axle. I drove from NH to TX with a 15,000 lb 5th wheel. It revs a bit on the big hills, but honestly I don’t regret it. The tow rating is for more than what I’m pulling and it honestly did fine. Plus, I don’t have to fool with DEF and higher diesel prices. Let alone the higher initial cost. Also I don’t tow all day everyday so a diesel just didn’t make sense. I love this truck!
That is my spec truck on paper and you are pulling just about the same size and weight as my 5th wheel, so this is a very valuable demo. Current truck is a 99 F-350 dually 7.3 and I had an issue in the Rockies. I could pull a grade no problem, it was the switch backs that killed me. The 4.10s with a 4 speed only gave so many speeds to run without the torque converter slipping and cooking the tranny fluid. Slowly down to 10-15 mph on some turns made it a struggle to keep the transmission happy. That 10-speed would have been extremely useful.
I have a 21’ f350; 7.3 l , 3:73 . Currently on a 8 week snowbird trip . Starting in Portland OR and traveling thru Ca then east thru Az, NV and back. LOTS of mountain passes and hills. ~ 3k miles so far. Towing a 7400# tt . Averaging 10.3 mpg. Includes a 90 mile stretch with 35-45 mph head winds plus a 250 mile leg with 15-20 mph side winds. Friend with us in a 2019 Chevy Duramax diesel weighing ~800# more is getting ~1.5mpg better. Not enough difference to justify the $10k additional cost up front nor the 40 to 90 cents a gallon more for diesel this trip. We both go up & down the same hills with ease. If I was towing over ~13k-14k then I might take the jump. Rarely turn over 3k rpm’s . 1600rpm’s when flat cruising at 62-64 mph in 9th gear.
Thanks for sharing your results on your trip. It’s good to hear that your Godzilla engine gives you lots of headroom in towing. The one thing we noticed when we test drove both the Godzilla and the diesel was just how much quieter the Godzilla was over the diesel driving around town.
That's the truck I wish I would've bought, but I didn't want to order. Wound up with a F250 short bed and 3.55 rear end but it still pulls our travel trailer around with ease. On our last 1000 mile round trip we averaged a tic over 8 mpg running 65-70 mph.
Great video! congrats on the new 5'er. Im kind of on the edge with my 19 F350 6.7L, we're towing a 43ft long 5'er with a loaded weight somewhere in the 14000lb range and it tows it just fine and under all the numbers. I added Timbrens only to stop a little trailer rocking coming to a stop. We're in NWPA so there's more hills (and some steep inclines) than flat roads and getting anything from 11-14mpg, just wish diesel would go down a bit.
I guess what counts is that you are happy. I've owned a few gas motors last one being supercharged 426 Hemi in a RAM (built motor pushing over 650 hp/tq at wheels). Towed same trailer with stock 5.7 hemi, built 426, and finally with F-450 diesel. There is no comparison. It's not just about the torque numbers but where those numbers land on the RPM graph. Again - I'm glad you are happy and I know these new 10 speeds offer a better towing experience (less over-revving to allow downshift, etc) the ultimate experience is with a diesel. Once you get used to that everything else is just not gonna cut it.
I had the same year truck in a Lariat, with 4:10 gears. The 7.3 is one fine motor. In 21, I bought an F350 dually to tow a heavier 5th wheel. I enjoy the stability of the extra width and tire in the rear, and the diesel just flat out rips. Generally speaking, the 7.3 just won't last anywhere close to as long as a diesel before wearing out.
Thanks for the video, I have been waiting for someone to do a video towing with the F-350 with the gas 7.3, and 3.73 gears. Mine has been on order since December, and itching for a scheduled build date.
Finally the answer I was looking for. I have towed 11k with a 98.5 cummins for twenty years and have wondered how it would compare to the 7.3 gas. I have towed in California and back and forth to Oregon from Montana. I can't ever remember being under 45mph pulling up hills. That's with 3.54 gears. Your probably 1000 lbs heavier than my truck and trailer due to the weight of your truck so 45mph on a hill is just fine.
My 22 f350 lariat long bed single wheel powerstroke says 9-10 towing. Pretty much the same set up. Our fifth wheel weighs 11-11500 or so. That’s awesome that 7.3 is doing you well. And hey, you don’t have the maintenance cost I do.
Awesome video. I got my 2022 F350 in October. Looking forward to towing with it this summer. The godzilla will be a step up for me. I live in Utah, so I will be working it very well.
Let me know how it tows up there. I've towed between Utah, Arizona and Nevada. I'm wondering how the 7.3 will handle the steep hills and high elevations.
That is a surprising change from your Travel Trailer to a Fifth Wheel. You seemed to be quite happy with your propride hitch. What made you make a change? Were you not happy with Trailer Towing and figured a Fifth Wheel would be easier? Or did you just want a bigger Trailer? What was the MPG hauling the Travel Trailer? Would you rather tow the Fifth Wheel or the Travel Trailer with the Propride hitch?
I have a 2021 F350 with the 7.3 and 4.30 rear end. I pull a 45 ft toy hauler running at 14,000 lbs with 3000 pin weight. The 7.3 is a dream to drive with that load. No air bags but I am using Timbren's for the extra load.
What kind of mpg are you getting. Asking because I have been really considering this option. Currently have a 2019 F250 crew cab 6.7L 3.55 gears. Tow a Momentum 320G toy hauler 40'. Towed it from KC, MO to Deadwood, SD and back last year. Averaged 8.2 MPG.
@@garymartin9765 I have a 2019 F-350 Dually CC 4x4 6.7L diesel, 4.10 gears, towing a K-Z Durango G383RLT fifth wheel at around 14,000 lbs. and I’m getting ~8 mpg at 65-67 mph. It will get 15.5-16 mpg when not towing or hauling at 73 mph and avgs. 13 mpg in town. I’m curious as to what the 7.3 gas motor in a similarly equipped truck will get in similar situations.
Would the 7.3 on f250 tremor handle towing an 11,000 lbs travel trailer on a regular basis? I don’t wanna get the power stroke cause it adds too much weight and would compromise the off road capability, but I’m concerned it’s too much for a 7.3 regularly. I wanna travel with it a lot.
We have a 2022 F-250 XLT with the 6.2L gas and 3.73 rear end, towing a 7000 lb travel trailer. Just completed a 1600 mile trip and averaged between 8.5 and 9.4 mpg towing 65-70 mph. We are very happy with the decision to go with a gas truck this time (previous Duramax owner)
I have a 2020 7.3 L F250 with 3.55 our fifth wheel weighs 10,500 with 800lbs of payload and is able to go up a 6% grade and 66 mph, So don't let no one discourage you they pull hard! That's 6 mph faster than my 2003 f250 with the 6.0 L with 560 ft. lbs of torque. Getting 8.4 miles to the gallon.
Glad to hear you back on hear! Keep wondering how it's going every time I drive past the old house. Hopefully I will get a chance to buy a Godzila someday but until then I'm still Ford all the way!! Glad you guys are having a great time.
Sweet looking for exact video . Same truck on order and same weight 5th wheel, whats your payload on the Truck? Nevermind i looked at your previous video and zoomed in 4050 lbs payload, nice
I have a Tremor with 7.3 & 4.30 gears. Added a 50 gal. Transflow tank in the bed(no more gas stations with the rig). We tow a 5th wheel that is 14,000 lbs. Have been all over the country including Colorado, Montana & Wyoming. Truck tows great no problems. A 5th wheel is great dealing with the wind in Wyoming. Ordered truck with All the towing goodies including dual batteries. Love the camera’s.
I remember towing our 5th wheel with a gas truck when we first got one. Averaged 7-8 mpg so we got smart and went to a diesel and get 12-13. It also pulls with 0 strain. Only downside is diesels ain’t cheap to work on and not all mechanics work on diesels.
Even making only 7-8 mpg it would take 10-15 years of ownership to pay for the extra initial cost of the diesel engine, and that’s not including the extra costs for oil changes (2x amount of oil), fuel filters and DEF for the diesel, which would extend that break even point even further. I owned a Duramax for 11 years and I get it, but a diesel isn’t necessary in most RV situations unless you tow a heavy 5’er or a full-timer towing 30K+ miles a year.
Are you using a weight distribution system with bars....in conjunction with your airbags? Someone told me airbags fight against weight distribution hitches.....
im glad all these diesel owners are well off enough to keep a new truck under warranty so they dont have to see what the repair bills are on these diesels most average person could not afford these repairs i had these repaires over many years and im going back to gas
I have a 2016 with the 6.2 gas engine and I'm very happy with all of the pulling options and the performance. We are going to put a 5th wheel camper next year. I want to install air bags . Witch world be better, the duel spring Firestone bags. Or the single bags? The camper we want is a toy hauler at in the neighborhood of 36-40 ft.
TFL towed 15k lbs up the steepest road in America and held the speed limit. Not sure if you are saying the engine wouldn’t handle it, but i am 100% sure it would
@@VT990 They hauled a GN horse trailer that weighed around 15-16k lbs with the blue F250- 4.30 gears. I believe they made a another video about what you were referring too with a different super duty.
I would lock it into 8th gear when towing so it doesn’t gear hunt so much. Might help your fuel mileage more because everytime it downshifts from 9 to 8th, it’s giving the truck more throttle. I’ve noticed gas fords seem to do best when locked out of 9 and 10th. Also was wondering what gears your truck has. Seems to tow well considering it has that much weight behind it
Just as an FYI ... I tried the lock out of 9 & 10 for the last 600-700 miles of our trip (total of about 4200). Mpg's didn't really change much. I put it "M" and didn't let it get below ~2100 RPM's as well. much better performance gong up hills . Like you said, I have questioned the throttle response as it seems as it downshifts 2 gears at a time. IMHO it must be using a lot of throttle to hold a gear before downshifting(?). I kept the same pressure on the gas peddle but would manually downshift as the RPM's would drop below ~2100 rpm's. I had a lot less drop & variance in speed with the same mpg's.
What does your actual payload sticker say with your configuration? I have been looking into getting a F350 SRW Long Bed for the payload but they vary a lot from the maximum in the book. I assume the 7.3 gas has a lot more payload than the diesel.
I have a fully loaded 22 F-350 7.3L 3.73 crew cab 4x4 srw lariat with just about every bell & whistle, minus the tremor package. My yellow door sticker says 3700.
Nice video buddy!! I had a 2022 GMC Sierra 2500 gasser and now have a 2022 gmc 2500 duramax and pull a 36’ tt with a family of five and two 10’ kayaks and a lot of gear. Both trucks did well, I went with the diesel because I’m planning on buying a larger fifth wheel in near future. Drove the duramax down to Florida from Canada approximately 4000 miles and averages around 10-11 mpg which isn’t a huge difference from the gasser but the Duramax does have a lot more juice going through higher grades. But diesel is more and service as well. I guess it depends on the individual and situation. Thanks for the great video.
Travel trailers do grab a lot of air resistance. So with a given travel trailer weight it will act much heavier than its weight. Your 11k lbs trailer probably acts more like your towing about 15k lbs. Just my thoughts. Congrats on your new truck sir! I own a similar set up but a bit older. Its a 2010 f-350 SRW V-10. I'm thinking about one of these new 7.3L. But the pricing of new trucks makes me think twice. Lol
Would the 7.3 on f250 tremor handle towing an 11,000 lbs travel trailer on a regular basis? I don’t wanna get the power stroke cause it adds too much weight and would compromise the off road capability, but I’m concerned it’s too much for a 7.3 regularly. I wanna travel with it a lot.
People singing the praises of diesel… there is no comparison. The reality is that a ton of people don’t want a diesel truck for a variety of reasons. The goal of this vid is to discuss the 7.3 gas. Now how it compares to a diesel. Of course a diesel tows better… for another 10k. Plus fuel. Plus maintenance. Plus def. Plus cold starts in cold temps… it’s not the go to choice for everyone…
@@Icutmetal Not really most are shit videos of some dildo doing a gauntlet video maxed out going up the semi truck lane not a video of a say 8-10k up those grades . The videos I've seen of the hemi 6.4 didn't impress me it didn't pull those grades loaded like that Amy faster than 250k mild old magnum v10 ....which was slooooow .
@@bryane2857 I bought my first RV after I retired in 2015, a used 29' Toyhauler. Guy I bought it from said a half ton would pull it. I borrowed a '97 F250 with a 7.3 to tow it home with and halfway home on a 3 hour trip I knew the previous owner was full of BS. I ended up with a v10 in a F250....
I live in CO and towing something that big over the Rockies would be askin' for it. You need a rig with balls and diesel is the only way to go. If you live in Kansas, a gasser would be suffice.
Do gas engines hold up well pulling that much weight regularly? I wanna get a 7.3 f 250 and pull an 11’000 lb trailer but I’m concerned it is too much stress to pull that much weight regularly on a gas v8.
@@VT990 The new 7.3 is designed to go into stuff like motorhomes, dumptrucks, things that used to traditionally be diesel. It'll do just fine pulling 11,000 pounds although a diesel would probably do it better. The thing with diesels is that the EPA is requiring so much crap to be included on diesels these days that it's usually not worth the maintenance cost anymore IMO. Lots of fleets are switching over to gas for that reason too.
Everybody knows you "gotta have a diesel"- - - just kidding, I would've chosen the gas burner as well. Just go slower on the hills, as it's not like it WON'T pull it up the hill. I have an 88 chevy with a 454 that does a good job with my camper. Can I pass a diesel truck up a steep, long grade?- - - Not a chance. Lol!
Good video 😀 7.3 does not have enough torque that a diesel has but it is a price point I would have to dully but enjoy your rig the channel miles rv has a 7.3 he is also happy with it but most diesel have 1 thousand torque
Definitely don't need either one of those things. They make a bolt on supercharger for this that you can obtain in stock block form 800 horsepower and 900 lb feet of torque. Doesn't sound like a 60s issue to me
You should do a tuner on your truck and you get a lot more torque and horsepower and you can do them without deleting your vehicle and voiding your warranty
Well diesel is already at $4.55 a gallon in my area at the time of this comment and gas is at $3.45 it seems like a wash to me. Most diesels don't get that great of fuel mileage when they're towing anyway. I'll take a gas engine over diesel any day with the added cost of maintenance and just the fact of around $10k more on the sticker price no thank you.
@@hollywd269 Don't forget the cost of Def, the cost of additives to the fuel so your high pressure fuel pump doesn't explode and cause 15K in damages because it wasn't designed for our low sulfur diesel over here. Oh, and don't forget to save 3K just to replace injectors after 100K. Or the cost to repair the DPF, or EGR issues that frequently come up. No thanks, I will stick with gas.
In my opinion you’re always better off with a turbo. I say diesel is the way to go to offset depreciation. That gasser with 100k on it isn’t worth nearly as much as a diesel with 100k on it. That mpg is terrible as well. My 6.7L stock gets 11.8 towing my 5er at 68mph. Have gone from NJ to Maine and to Florida and back. I have a Cougar 364bhl for reference. Next time get a diesel. It’s worth it. Stock 6.7 has 440hp and like 860lbf of torque. Naturally aspirated engines can’t compare in while towing. I mean this stuff with all do respect but if you’re doing a comparison trying to say the 7.3 gas is better. 9mpg, can’t use all the gears, 45mph up a hill and the price tag. You just sold someone a powerstroke.
Why buy a new truck just to sell I buy to keep don't care about resell I'm not selling it in 100k or less and forget about diesel of course it gets less fuel milage I'm not hating on diesel just the mindset of buying to resell I hate facebook for that reason people bragging I got this new truck then a week later selling 2022 f350 6.7l 80k or so on
@@stevenhooten4275 it’s not “buying it to sell it” it’s about being smart about the purchase. If you don’t consider resale on what you’re buying you’re foolish. This goes for anything. Trucks, homes, rvs and anything else.
The issue with modern diesels is DEF. They are unreliable and when they fail it’s $$$ to fix. I wouldn’t delete the DEF either because depending on your state you will need it to pass a smog test. That said, diesel is great if you are towing heavy and running distances so the DEF has a chance to do its job, but if you occasionally tow, and use the diesel as a grocery getter, the 7.3 gasser is a better option.
That sounds a little heavy for that fifth wheel, your fuel mileage sucks, that's why I will stick with diesel my 42 ft fifth wheel toyhauler weighs 13,000 dry loaded with bike and golf cart etc. I'm 15,000 and still get between 12-14 mpg ands it's a dually
@@joeallison2779 You may be right. Probably pulled the trigger too quickly. I'm just getting a little tired and impatient with vloggers who have more money than actual knowledge of which they speak. Thanks for calling me out.
@@rogerspalding5673 It’s all good. I know people can be hard to deal with etc. but I just try to take it with a grain of salt learn where I can and disregard what I can’t. Take care.