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2020 Honda Africa Twin - Standard Manual vs. Adventure Sports DCT | Review 

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We finally got our hands on the new Honda Africa Twin. And since it's our first ride with this bike, we made a mostly on-road trip, with some travel here and there. And we got two extremely different versions: the basic standard manual vs. the Adventure Sports DCT.
Here's the price list - prices may be different depending on the market:
CRF1100L - standard, manual: €14.500 de euro
CRF1100L - standard, DCT: €15.690
CRF1100L Adventure Sports: €16.490
CRF1100L Adventure Sports ES - electronic suspension: €18.490
CRF1100L Adventure Sports ES + DCT: €19.590
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Комментарии : 281   
@michaelpullen8527
@michaelpullen8527 2 года назад
I’m just watching all the back issues of you guys presenting your tests. I loved you two guys and your presentations and the work you put into them. Yesterday I found out the tragic news about your loss of such a genuinely good guy. A big loss and still keep thinking about the joy of watching you both in such an entertaining way. My best wishes in your loss.
@clientjj4896
@clientjj4896 4 года назад
To be able to do this all the time as part of one's job is priceless..
@VPB1970
@VPB1970 3 года назад
Yes. But I bet these guys don't enjoy the ride after all the immense anxiety of being mouths waiting to leave. Anyways I would trade it with my profession every day...just enviose (to a very high degree).
@mark.us84
@mark.us84 4 года назад
For me is the adventure sports the most beautiful adventure bike on the market.
@snozzybosch7503
@snozzybosch7503 4 года назад
Markus R. Certainly very practical and can take you anywhere.
@mark.us84
@mark.us84 4 года назад
@@snozzybosch7503 i know but its too expensive for me 😞
@98durangopack
@98durangopack 4 года назад
KTM is better.
@mark.us84
@mark.us84 4 года назад
@@98durangopack ktm styling is absolutely not my taste
@bikerbeliever8169
@bikerbeliever8169 4 года назад
@@98durangopack ktm looks hideous. I am not brand loyal. If they changed the styling away from that weird insect look I'd be all over the 790 adventure.
@veljkovic92
@veljkovic92 4 года назад
You guys sound honest and are funny at the same time. My girlfriend laughed a lot hearing you and now she knows about Africa Twin bike cause of you. Subscribed. 😀
@Robert8455
@Robert8455 4 года назад
I've been hooked on watching your videos from the USA. What a beautiful country, motorcycling riding and great reviews.
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 4 года назад
Welcome aboard!
@abhaschandrakumar
@abhaschandrakumar 4 года назад
The cornering lights coming on in turns was great to look at
@davidlambert5008
@davidlambert5008 Год назад
I finally got my Africa twin 2020 dct with ES thank you Christian for making us dream through all your videos.. you've been an inspiration for me I wish I could speak to you when i saw you at Eicma few years ago miss you 🖤🙏🏽
@EvergreenGaming13
@EvergreenGaming13 4 года назад
These dudes are becoming my favorite bike guys.
@jassimassis7563
@jassimassis7563 4 года назад
I was waiting for this review for so looooooong. Finally!
@gatti493
@gatti493 2 года назад
since writing my comment i have just discovered that this gentleman has had a bad accident and past away because of the injuries ? , my heart felt condolences to his family and friends .
@fs5866
@fs5866 4 года назад
I bought an Africa twin standard,gonna pick it up this Thursday,so hyped.
@Pardoned
@Pardoned 3 года назад
Was it worth it? No doubt it was.
@MxRyder19
@MxRyder19 2 года назад
With enduro , you know where you start but you never know where you endup ❤ You just described the feeling i get when im offroading !
@chico-de4099
@chico-de4099 3 года назад
Hi guys. Thank you very much for these impressions and the comparison of the two different Africa Twins. Because of your review and your personal decisions for the Africa Twin Standard with manual gearbox I will buy this version, but an older used one from 2018. Best regards from Southwest Germany to you. Jörg
@hovishill2779
@hovishill2779 4 года назад
Great video from you lads once again 👍🏻😀 look forward to seeing some adventure trip vids from you sometime soon. I have an 1100 adventure sport ES with the manual gearbox (I had dct on the previous 1000 and prefer the manual). The electronic suspension is superb and in the 2 USER MODES, you can adjust everything about the suspension, preload, damping and have the the front forks different to the rear shock etc,etc. The suspension is vastly superior to the R1250 GSA i had previously imho. Even though the bike has a 21” front wheel, you wouldn’t think so, unlike the 1000, its very flickable, well balanced and stable. It’s great to be able to flick from comfortable and relaxed when cruising and on rough roads and instantly swop to sporty and firm when making progress 😉😄. The dash is superb and i would urge anyone who rides this bike to either look for a tutorial on how to use it or spend some time reading the manual. To be honest, its not complicated once you understand what does what, most the buttons you wont use whilst riding and there are short cut buttons to the main functions. Apple CarPlay is great, but due to the way CarPlay works and using a button to move from one option to another is a bit long winded, but its very easy to have the map and a route showing and change from that to the bikes speedo/rev/info page with one button. You can also access and adjust the heated grips, volume, spot lights and drls with just 2 buttons, or access and adjust the volume with one button. Once you have spent sometime when you first get the bike (having read the 300 page 😮😄 manual), you can setup all the optional settings, linked your phone and headset (CarPlay and google maps dont work unless unless the phones plugged in and you have a Bluetooth headset connected), you won’t change much again, except suspension and rider modes which just requires one button. Negatives for me, cruise control with the manual gearbox can only be used in 4th gear and over 30 mph (3rd gear on the dct model). Honda don’t offer the high seat option in the blue/black colour which I would like personally, only available in black for some strange reason. For the price (its not cheap) the quick-shifter should be standard on the manual version and it would have been nice to have TPMS with the tubeless wheels.
@armored-clown
@armored-clown Год назад
Any reason you prefer the manual? I honestly can’t decide between DCT and manual and I’m looking at picking up an AT within the next year. I will be riding a lot of dirt hopefully since that’s the stuff I love tbh.
@niallleslie7419
@niallleslie7419 4 года назад
Given the recent issues that you've apparently had with some manually adjustable suspension ADV bikes and the wide range of bikes tested and available possibly: 1- Point out that for many people they will have to seek assistance to get manually adjustable suspension set up and that it does always require resetting when the bike weight is altered by a passenger or panniers or when changing from smooth paved roads to rough trails. This when compared to electronic suspension. 2- Point out the not so great difference in price when a basic bike is then equipped for doing things other than basic compared to a well equipped bike. 3- Report on the adjustability or otherwise of most bikes to suit different riders. Most bikes don't have much adjustment range when compared to cars - why not? Would we accept the same lack of seating and wheel adjustability when buying a car - I doubt it! Keep up the good work and thank you! Niall Leslie.
@19MadMax98
@19MadMax98 2 года назад
RIP CRISTIAN! Such a talented dude
@jimbeam4111
@jimbeam4111 4 года назад
The standard manual is the way to go. I would just add some aftermarket hand guards and a taller windshield.
@rihardchannel
@rihardchannel 4 года назад
I like that old Africa has a big enough standard windshield, you should not replace it immediately, when BMW F800GS/F650GS has ridiculous small standard shield and you should buy tall one for 500$. And what we have now? Standard Africa has useless shield.
@portlandshomlessproblem1728
@portlandshomlessproblem1728 3 года назад
Hand guards crash protection and better tires
@chrisw4215
@chrisw4215 2 года назад
One drawback, tubed tyres
@terrystratford1235
@terrystratford1235 Год назад
@@chrisw4215 that was my main concern also! I test rode the base with dct and fell in love with it! The big adventure sport just felt bigger and less agile in the corners! The inner tubes must be replaced every 6 mths or so many miles due to wear! I want to go off roading and feel the base is perfect and the adventure sport,for me, not as agile or fun! I would get dct! Nothing to think about with that!
@themaninthemiddle1928
@themaninthemiddle1928 4 года назад
02:12 priceless moment when you finally conquered technology
@mridhwanhatta
@mridhwanhatta 4 года назад
2:12 that "aaa...aaaaaaahhhhhhh"🤣🤣🤣
@dungbeetle.
@dungbeetle. 2 года назад
2:07 "Aaaaaah" LOL :D A great team. We miss Cristian.
@darrylgibb2693
@darrylgibb2693 4 года назад
Firstly guys, the videography was superb and really dynamic. For such a low budget production you guys are onto a winning formula. I felt right there with you and part of the play. Bloody well done.... I've got an all black 2019 and for touring and 20% off road its the cats pyjamas's. The little manual under the seat gives me a comprehensive how to ...... for the need to knows.
@hillkiran
@hillkiran 4 года назад
I have the 2019 Africa Twin Adventure Sports. The only ONLY thing it is really missing IMHO is cruise control. (Well not gonna lie, the extra power in the new bikes intrigues me) > I have ridden two up and with lots of baggage, and no adjusting of the suspension was necessary. The suspension actually seems amazing perfect to me. Coming from a Harley I am amazed by it.
@windinthewillows6248
@windinthewillows6248 4 года назад
Good review, I’d have the Adventure Sport ES manual, had a ride on one and the new motor and electronic suspension is awesome, its also a great looking bike too.
@pyrodoll2422
@pyrodoll2422 3 года назад
Thank you so much guys for your "second to none" videos and content and just as much for your perfect English. You are as good as it gets in quality reviews and as so, invaluable as I'm looking at both ATs and your opinions are extremely helpful.
@suppersready4you
@suppersready4you 4 года назад
Thanks guys, Great video I will also get the standard model, as you mentioned, lighter and more fun and nimble
@vishnus2512
@vishnus2512 4 года назад
അണ്ണാ അണ്ണന്റെ riviewnu വേണ്ടി കട്ട വെയ്റ്റിംഗ് ആരുന്ന്...
@pwoodward371
@pwoodward371 4 года назад
Nice video! I like the fact that you can keep the traction control on and still wheelie when you want/need to!
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 4 года назад
Thanks. We had to turn it off for the wheelie.
@pwoodward371
@pwoodward371 4 года назад
@@DriveMagRiders On the US version there is 3 level wheelie control, independent of traction control settings.
@azmal8760
@azmal8760 4 года назад
Thanks guys. Was waiting for this video from long time...
@trailsofliving5837
@trailsofliving5837 4 года назад
Top review. I have the older version, but might consider upgrading after this. Keep up the excellent work! Multumesc!
@nitilpatel6524
@nitilpatel6524 3 года назад
i like these 2 . They r v compassionate about bikes . They dont even have to say anything funny ,just the accent makes us giggle .
@robertb2444
@robertb2444 3 года назад
Yes, I also LOVE that red and black color, not sure why is is not available in the USA.
@johnroberts6836
@johnroberts6836 4 года назад
Great vlog guys. One of my best go to sites and I am English.
@bielbills
@bielbills 4 года назад
Chat in romenian... Push this, press that! Wheelie! 👍👍👍😅😅
@user-sw2lv3zp6o
@user-sw2lv3zp6o 2 года назад
I prefer the basic one. Pity it doesn't have tubeless tyres.
@ducatiadventures7230
@ducatiadventures7230 4 года назад
I really enjoyed another great videos from you. Big Thanks from USA !
@bobbytrendswestsyd9736
@bobbytrendswestsyd9736 4 года назад
Thanks, was looking for a comparison of the two models 🙏🙏👌
@cdommotovlog
@cdommotovlog 4 года назад
Very good, nice review 👏. Smart choice ! Standard owner here 😝
@JoseMaria-zk6sn
@JoseMaria-zk6sn 4 года назад
CDCOM Motovlog problebly i will buy one AT 1100 standart without DCT, iqual to yours (color to 😊) Do you think is to heavy for basic commuting? Thanks
@protectork9831
@protectork9831 2 года назад
Can't believe Christian is gone . RIP
@toltod
@toltod 4 года назад
They could change the firmware so you see the warning, but there is a 10 second timer which clears it automatically. That shouldn't be a hard to roll into a future software update.
@jozseftoth2071
@jozseftoth2071 2 года назад
Great video guys. well done. To me it seemed that your major issue was with the tft screen, but I think its kind of the same when buying a new phone. You spend some time on it and its easy. You really shold have read the manual first, its far not as complicated as it seems. I love this bike , especially the ATAS dct es. Perfect as it is.
@Abzuwave1
@Abzuwave1 4 года назад
Purchasing the adventure sport DCT with foot shifter this week so that I can experience manual and automatic shifting
@logicalindian_777
@logicalindian_777 4 года назад
Does it have a clutch?
@liamdonnelly9468
@liamdonnelly9468 4 года назад
Very interesting. Didn’t realise that option was available
@alexmocanu3503
@alexmocanu3503 4 года назад
I have a VFR 1200X with DCT and a foot shifter and it works like a charm. You will enjoy it for sure!
@szeriman13
@szeriman13 4 года назад
the best combo! you have a fake quickshifter 😉
@xchalibur77
@xchalibur77 4 года назад
I don’t care for it because sometimes I like to go slow and put it in third or fourth gear at idling without touching the accelerator but the dct changes down the gears until it stops
@uleiosu4582
@uleiosu4582 4 года назад
kind of nice to ride on empty roads... stay healthy during lockdown and ride safe! nice review as usuall
@pbservano
@pbservano 2 года назад
I purchased the 2022 Africa Twin Adventure ES sports this weekend..... Really a tall bike. I'm 5'8" I'm tip toeng on stop.
@stevebolton8471
@stevebolton8471 4 года назад
I would get the standard bike with DCT and fit Oxford Heated Grips and Barkbusters. Really bad that Car Play will only work with a headset.
@SuprScout
@SuprScout 4 года назад
Bought the 2020 standard a week ago. Generally love it, the apple car play is a PAIN to use with my phone and headset, and almost unusable. Waste of an electronic feature, Honda needs to fix!
@pavelmullo244
@pavelmullo244 4 года назад
I am sure there will be taller wind shield available for standard version, so if there is no need for automatic suspension adjustments and bigger tank no need to go with touring version. They could put tubeless tires on both because they also plan to launch smaller AT like 800cc or something like that in the future, that will be more for fully off road oriented riders. 1000cc is still quite big bike for off-road in general and both versions should have tubeless tires. Please make a review for new Suzuki v-Strom 1050, thanks!
@thomasg7978
@thomasg7978 4 года назад
best guys on the planet ! thx for this review !
@darius0lupus
@darius0lupus 3 года назад
I see you guys too are a fan of rev it airborne base layer. So cozy for those hot days.
@jayrajb
@jayrajb 3 года назад
You guys are the best, what a great review.
@wesleyensey8488
@wesleyensey8488 4 года назад
New sub just got a AF Adventure Sport DCT I’m hoping I did the right choice . Thanks for comparison
@MagicAyrtonforever
@MagicAyrtonforever 3 года назад
How are you getting along - I am literally poised to purchase one and now I am confused. I do mainly road trips so the weather protection is king for me also, tubeless tyres and adjustable screen is better.. Heated grips as standard I could go on and on.. But I am going with a Black manual Adventure Sports with just side panniers and centre stand. I will add a fender extender and have already purchased a bags connection Tank lock Tank bag.
@wesleyensey8488
@wesleyensey8488 3 года назад
MagicAyrtonforever I have had my bike a few months now but have had a unexpected sickness in my family so have not moved the bike I have put all Honda accessories on it light bar/ crash bar / side and top pannniers tank bag and tank side protective/ center stand bike is great just way to tall for me I’m 5’10” 32 inseam bike is 34 I did buy low seat also but did not help I dropped bike just getting off it is too top heavy . I love it but if had a smaller tank and sit lower I would keep but going to trade it in once I get time . The technology is great just meant for a taller person.
@MagicAyrtonforever
@MagicAyrtonforever 3 года назад
@@wesleyensey8488 oh dear.. I am 6ft 33/34 inseam don't have a problem with standard seat on high, screen is sort of too tall. But looking to purchase this week. I'm sure the standard one will have its own set of foibles
@davidhyde2267
@davidhyde2267 4 года назад
Really enjoyed this comparison as I'm trying to decide between these two, I am so undecided as I'd like it for long tours but want to be able to take it off road while touring as much as possible. Like you I am learning towards the standard with some upgrades. But one thing I would of liked to hear more on with your comparison views was on the suspension on the manual versus the es on road and off road? Can you adjust the standard manually to equal the settings on the es?
@andrewedmond7738
@andrewedmond7738 4 года назад
Well done guys. Terrific review. Stay safe.
@molward
@molward 4 года назад
Nice review, thanks! As far as wind protection is concerned I experienced that shoulders are very poorly protected. Ride safe
@brucekendall52
@brucekendall52 4 года назад
Thanks guys.
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 4 года назад
Our pleasure!
@damba778
@damba778 3 года назад
Buna.Sunt Moldovan .Traiesc in Russiea.Vreau sa cumpar motocicleta si nu ma pot apreciea Africa twin Adventure sau BMW F850GS .Ce parere ai ?
@maynstreaminc151
@maynstreaminc151 4 года назад
I'll stick with my 2018 ATAS manual transmission. It was only $12,500 US. For me it's been my favorite motorcycle and I've owned a lot of different bikes. BMW GS, KTM, SUZUKI and many others.
@someguy5035
@someguy5035 3 года назад
Going with the manual for the same reasons. Lighter. More nimble. More fun. Cheaper is nice too.
@madjc0202
@madjc0202 4 года назад
Another great video guys 👍
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 4 года назад
Thanks 👍
@denischartrand3912
@denischartrand3912 4 года назад
I would be interested in your thoughts between 790 S and base africa twin 1100 for a mix of road, gravel and off-road. Short rider at 5 foot 7 inches.
@aimanakaostonpunyachannel7470
@aimanakaostonpunyachannel7470 2 года назад
Currently using the 2018 adventure sport model..really love it..maybe in the future will upgrade to dct model..
@mediguide_edutech
@mediguide_edutech 4 года назад
Always love this channel ...drive you young men !!! Love from Assam, India.
@Matt-hm9uo
@Matt-hm9uo 4 года назад
Hey Guys, thanks very much for the very good comparison. One question, what do you think of the short screen on the standard model ? I've had a bike before with a very short screen and it worked OK as the wind off it was "clean". I'm thinking about buying the standard bike, and would really like to hear what you think about the short screen, and if you do put on the optional touring screen what difference that makes. Thanks !!! :-)
@EARP87
@EARP87 4 года назад
Jajajajajaja that moment that you know it was soo easy "ahhhhhhh" jajajajajaja
@RedRupert64
@RedRupert64 4 года назад
I'm glad you choose the basic model because that's the one also prefer. However, I am disappointed that the standard model doesn't have the tubeless wheels. Your vids are great and so is your English! 👍🏻
@DLL969
@DLL969 4 года назад
Bring on the AT / T7 / 790 ADV / 850GS Comparison.
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo 3 года назад
I can do that right now: Bad: AT not as good as the Tiger T7 not any electronics 790 breaks down 850GS expensive/not a 1250 Pros AT balanced, comfy, quality fitment T7 lightweight, can go anywhere 790 incredible handling 850 plush
@terrystratford1235
@terrystratford1235 Год назад
@@lovelessissimo u missed t7 no good at highway speeds, to much wind, under powered and a hard seat! For the worst off roading it's amazing! But, u Gota get to the byways on tarmac! Totally agree with ur assessment of the bikes! As a 1st time byway rider( coming from sport bikes) the base Africa twin with dct is the one for me! Felt like a BMX with an engine! So flickable great on corners! Good wind protection, could be better thou! The adventure, well it's bigger and heavier! Maybe on paper it's a better bike, but for me, not as much fun as the base model!
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo Год назад
@@terrystratford1235 the AT is my favorite ADV bike, by a lot (currently on a z900). It's just huge.
@terrystratford1235
@terrystratford1235 Год назад
@@lovelessissimo I have to say, I tested the t7 v storm 1050de ktm 1290sas. AT base dct. ATAS es manual. Personally the AT base with dct was just a hoot to ride, more fun than the adventure sport! But that was on tarmac! Ive been on my current bike for 22 years, when the sun comes out...1987 gsxr 1100h. Also an amazing bike! I'd never sell her, but getting uncomfortable to ride! Any reason u can think of not to ride a bike with tubed tyres? That's what's putting me off buying the AT dct base model! The bigger adventure sport es dct just wasn't as much fun! Still a great bike, but for my money, I'd have the base model!
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo Год назад
@Terry Stratford I am not one who rides off road, so fixing flats on tubed tires versus tubeless is a much bigger pain than I am willing to put up with. So much that I would be willing to go up a trim level.
@davidhyde2267
@davidhyde2267 4 года назад
Can you guys PLEASE do a comparison with the standard AT and the triumph rally pro???
@jal1797
@jal1797 4 года назад
I would like to see the new AT with new v strom 1050 at on road review rather an off road riding.Which will be the best choice?
@kyleodonnell8841
@kyleodonnell8841 4 года назад
Just came out 5 days ago
@jfro5867
@jfro5867 4 года назад
Great review, excellent standard chaps 👍
@alexr5136
@alexr5136 4 года назад
hey guys loved the review! Could you make a video how to adjust the suspension manualy for the new standard AT? It will be agreat help to make it more agile on twisties or offroad. Thank you and great job!
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 4 года назад
We're not suspension guys. You should talk to a suspension mechanic. If you find one. :D
@majauskasmr
@majauskasmr 4 года назад
12:35 is exactly why i preffer DCT :)
@MagicAyrtonforever
@MagicAyrtonforever 4 года назад
Learn to ride perhaps.. May aswell stay at home in an armchair if you can't pull a clutch lever.
@majauskasmr
@majauskasmr 4 года назад
it's not about experience. did already hundreds of thousands kilometers on manual. It can wheelie without a lever.
@lostinasia3685
@lostinasia3685 4 года назад
@@majauskasmr How to do a wheel stand with out the clutch lever is it possible?
@majauskasmr
@majauskasmr 4 года назад
yes, the classic way. :) sit back to shift the weight to the rear, manually turn off the wheelie control and torque control. Use road bump or just throttle to the max in low gear, when bike is uo keep the balance with throttle control.
@khanghuynh6935
@khanghuynh6935 4 года назад
MagicAyrtonforever h
@mereclander
@mereclander 4 года назад
A very good bike but I would not to for it. It has something I don’t like that I al not a le to explain. I will wait for the Triumph. Very good vídeo!!!
@ToroRojo
@ToroRojo 4 года назад
Nice review! You liked the basic twin more because is lighter en cheaper and more fun to ride. I would like to see a comparison between this africa twin and de crf450L 2020. Because the crf450L is more lighter then the africa twin and soo more fun. I do not know which i will choose between these two bikes. A DCT on the crf450L would also be nice.
@paulvandervyver4223
@paulvandervyver4223 4 года назад
Beautiful bikes. Whats up with the flickering of the TFT screen? Why is it flickering? It's a bit annoying. I hope that you'll be able to do an in-depth review of the new Triumph 900 Rally soon.
@bereftofskill
@bereftofskill 4 года назад
The flickering is due to the refresh rate of the screen. It only shows up when you film a screen. If you film a TV or computer screen you can see it as well.
@simonthomas5367
@simonthomas5367 2 года назад
Nice video guys, thanks. Are either of these available with a quick-shifter?
@TheZanshen
@TheZanshen 4 года назад
The HRC Africa twin can stop traffic due to its looks and road presence.
@TheDavidGoldmanphoto
@TheDavidGoldmanphoto 4 года назад
Now you have tried them all (AS Africa Twin, 790 Adventure Sport KTM, Tiger 800/900) what do you think is the best for mostly highway with more and more off-road as I get better. I'm 5 ft, 7 inch. Great work guys.
@zzim2853
@zzim2853 4 года назад
I have a new 790, it is better in every way compared to my at. I would say all three same for hwy riding, but the 790 has an advantage off road for sure.
@wrczane
@wrczane 4 года назад
Didn’t the bigger windscreen have an adverse effect on the white one’s fuel consumption? 0,2 l/100km difference for a world load’s of comfort is worthwhile trade-off for me
@fotistsetikas1717
@fotistsetikas1717 3 года назад
Should i go for Africa twin adventure sports or a gs 850 adventure or 1250 adventure to travel Greece and in Europe the next years? Mainly through asphalt and bit off road. I've seen your adventures with 1250gs on patagonia, with Africa twin in pamir and 850gs on siberia and would consider your opinion. I'm inexperienced driver and ride an nc750x,my main trouble when riding is strong side winds.
@gbkmut1
@gbkmut1 4 года назад
great video thx guys for sharing your opinion
@martingaughan2419
@martingaughan2419 4 года назад
Brilliant guys and I agree the standard one is better
@kclaudiut
@kclaudiut 4 года назад
how is the wind protection for you Cristi on the standard AT ?
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 4 года назад
Just good enough. Put a higher windscreen and you don't need more.
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 4 года назад
I am not interested in paying extra money for a dual clutch transmission .. Just the same I wonder if you have an clutch control for jumping a log or going really slow say crossing a river of some bad situaiton in rocks or ruts ect ?
@serdarozaydiner
@serdarozaydiner 4 года назад
Thanks for another great video...My question is : aren’t the bikes too heavy...especially at very low speed on a slight slope...may be while push ithem around to park...in that sense would a CRF 250Rally be able to reach everywhere these two beasts can.? And also with more fun factor?
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 4 года назад
:) Of course they are heavy for trails. But, unlike a CRF250Rally, these bike are taking you in comfort 500 km a day, and are still able to cope with some off-road, depending on the rider's skill and depending on how much you'd like to sweat. I recently return from Patagonia where I travelled on a big R1250GSA. I would never have picked a 250-300 cc for that kind of trip.
@joshuafernandez4295
@joshuafernandez4295 4 года назад
Does the front end dive on braking
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 4 года назад
No. At least by the adventure bike standard, it doesn't.
@JoseMaria-zk6sn
@JoseMaria-zk6sn 4 года назад
I was waiting for this video, thank you guys! I have question, i am going to buy a new bike and i am strugling between AT 1100 standart without dct, and BMW 850 Adventure? I do communting and some off road weekends and i have to go along with a friend on one T7. Once again great video, this is really public service. Thanks
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 4 года назад
We're planning to do a comparison soon to make the things clear, but my feeling is the AT1100 is better so far. But.. Shhh, don't tell anyone :D
@ridinglifestwisties
@ridinglifestwisties 4 года назад
Great videos folks. I’m also in the same boat. I’m looking at the T7, CRF1100L standard and 850GS as my next bike which I would like to keep for at least 5 years. It will be great if you can provide some input. Thanks.
@Zazir
@Zazir 4 года назад
@@ridinglifestwisties I think all of us are w8ing for comparision with t7 and 790 adv r. I think DriveMag Riders for next trip to States (Kirgis,tadzyk) will pick T7 and for around home fun 790 adv r. I have crf 1000 in my garage and started thinking how to loose some weight in bike or change for t7.
@1Mcoach
@1Mcoach 4 года назад
Africa is much better than GS850. GS coming from China... (bmw already started some premium model to sign with: Made in Berlin! Imagine quality of Chinese bmw?!)
@ridinglifestwisties
@ridinglifestwisties 4 года назад
youyubssieee is lower weight the only thing you wish in your AT?
@ahmedhamid9892
@ahmedhamid9892 4 года назад
My brother, what is the best Honda African twin or KTM 790 r. In roaming around the world, especially roaming around Africa
@raycollington4310
@raycollington4310 4 года назад
As a 2019 At owner, my issue with Honda is over the poor quality parts that corrode like hell. Before I spend this money, I would like to know if Honda has addressed this and does the BMW have better quality brackets and fixings that have better corrosion resistance. Also at this price I might want to swap the chain for a shaft.
@TM-jy1xk
@TM-jy1xk 4 года назад
This is a Adventure bike not a chromy chopper. Corrosion is not an issue. Btw BMW have issues just like any other brand. I'v newer buy an BMW - complety overrated.
@raycollington4310
@raycollington4310 4 года назад
@@TM-jy1xk I think I understand this. My question is why are so many parts vunerable to corrosion and others not. When the bike is stored with cycles and machinery, they are not corroding like hell. The engineers produce a lovely engine, the bean counters finish it with cheap bits. True, I live in the wet and warm UK. The bike has seen no salt, commuting or very much wet riding. It is stored in an airy but unheated garage. It has been treated with ACF50 and I use a bike dryer. A quality product would not include parts that corrode this fast. My friends GS's fair better than my AT. Corrosion resistance is something I want to understand before buying a product. I am happy to work at looking after the bike.
@mikeyb6737
@mikeyb6737 4 года назад
biased. If its not a BMW or KTM you bag it as not as good BUT WE ALL KNOW THE HONDA IS KING.
@bicycle697
@bicycle697 3 года назад
Awesome video! Thanks for the education!!
@aw5080
@aw5080 3 года назад
Just for reference how tall are you guy? Montana USA love watching you guys i value your opinions!
@jibinraj6058
@jibinraj6058 4 года назад
Hi, I was waiting for this review since I see the bike in your garage. Is the fuel economy of this 2020 model is less than the previous one ? I have a 2018 DCT and I am thinking about selling it and buying the new one. My bike I can easily have 20-23 kmpl on lower power mode. In this video u are saying the fuel economy you are getting is 16.6 kmpl (6L for 100 km). How is the cornering lights in night cornering - that is something I need. I also love the tubeless tyres.
@sunnyvalejedi
@sunnyvalejedi 4 года назад
If you have the cash to upgrade a two year old bike why would you care about fuel economy?
@jibinraj6058
@jibinraj6058 4 года назад
Ho Lee Phuk 🙄I care fuel economy because I care the Range of the bike. 4 kmpl less fuel economy means that is 40 km less range for 10 L of fuel. For an Africa twin that is 80+ km less range.
@dajukija
@dajukija 4 года назад
I have dream to ride these kind of bikes.. But bad luck... I don't even have a basic bike.
@snozzybosch7503
@snozzybosch7503 4 года назад
Rajesh Maharjan Buy a Honda scooter and start from there. Basic, cheap and heaps of fun too. There are cheaper bikes around but a Honda will go and go and u will usually get your money back when time to sell. My best bikes have been some of my cheapest. If it Gets you to work and back and easy to maintain and run/fuel, that’s a boon. Then build from there. When your an old man, u will look back fondly and think of some of your earlier bikes and how much you loved them, and how remarkably cheap and easy they were and maybe your heart will cry for them when u see them as wrecks and in junk yards old, forgotten and unloved/unwanted, for if your a real motorcyclist they will have become part of you and part of your life. It’s great to have money, and new toys, modern and shiny, but in reality they don’t stay that way for long and if you let them, they can cost you the earth. My best bike now im in my fifties is an automatic 300cc Honda forza. I’ve owned more expensive and some had 10times more power. But power and expense doesn’t nessecarrily equate to more fun. Start off small, find your road, refine your skills and never be complacent. You will be fine. Ride well Rajesh/stay safe🤟👍
@Ben47471
@Ben47471 4 года назад
I really like your videos thanks for the great reviews. 2 questions for you in the USA right now you can get a new 2018-19 model for about $9,500 the 2020 look like they are going to be about $14,500 do you think the 2020 is $5,000 better than the 19? Also would love to hear thoughts on AT vs Tenere 700 ($10,000) those along with Tiger 900 Rally (< they are pricey I think $15,000 - $16,700 for the Pro) are on top of my wish list for a new bike this year coming off a 2012 Super Tenere looking for something lighter and better off road
@chriscisneros155
@chriscisneros155 4 года назад
Ben Nevills the big difference in 2020 for atas is tubeless tires and cruise control. Bonus is 20 is less weight more power, Tft, cornering abs, and lean angle headlamps. $5k seems like a deal for all that.
@evvlau
@evvlau 4 года назад
@@chriscisneros155 just wait.. 2021 will be out soon, then 2020 price will drop
@perhennung
@perhennung 2 года назад
Very interesting information! Thanks!
@vanjkasiki
@vanjkasiki 4 года назад
Ok gentleman, I like the review however I would really appreciate a possible comparo with 2018-2018 GS 1200 what do I gain / loose. I would do 80 % touring 23% off road ( not single trail but fire roads etc) thank you in advance. Props from Toronto Canada ; )
@damba778
@damba778 3 года назад
Daca Africa cu ce cutie manuala sau automat?
@ivanmaric4752
@ivanmaric4752 2 года назад
Is it possible to achieve 4 or 4,2 4,3 L/100km at 90kmh solo ride on the flat nice road..I m 180 100kg ...dct or manual whatever
@Mr2OOM
@Mr2OOM 4 года назад
Very interesting vid .. Is the new standard AT much better than the previous Standard model? also Was there any difference between the tyres? I noticed the AT AS had Bridgestones A41T?, and it looked like the Standard bike had Karoo street? I have an AT and need new tyres soon and can't decide which to get ... I like the look of the Karoo street and just wonder how they are on the street? Thanks ..
@chrisredfield3240
@chrisredfield3240 4 года назад
I think there really good on the street (karoo street) but not really any use off road.
@szeriman13
@szeriman13 4 года назад
Chris Redfield agree, but then why to have so big front wheel? 😂
@Mr2OOM
@Mr2OOM 4 года назад
@@chrisredfield3240 Thanks .. Where I live there are not really any places to go off road .. I just like the look of the Karoo street lol
@Mr2OOM
@Mr2OOM 4 года назад
@@szeriman13 The big front wheel is very good at smoothing out pot holes :)
@DLL969
@DLL969 4 года назад
The AT AS has tubeless. The standard AT has tubes. Thats probably why the tyres are different
@robertb2444
@robertb2444 4 года назад
I really like the red and black also! Not available in the usa though!
@HuBo485
@HuBo485 4 года назад
When shifting is smoother and faster and different to the previous one is the gearbox than a different one or only the software? And if so, than there should be possibility to update it! Do you guys know it?
@DriveMagRiders
@DriveMagRiders 4 года назад
Don't know exactely, but the software is different, considering the leaning thing.
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