2020 Honda CRF1100L Africa Twin vs. Suzuki V-Strom 1050XT 

I was thinking the same

Precisely why I went with the Africa Twin Adv Sports DCT. With a msrp of around $ 17 thousand for the V-Storm, there was no way I would it over the Africa Twin Adv Sports, DCT. The ATAS is far more equipped than the Wee 1050. If we had the Euro price difference, I may have considered the Wee 1050.

Yeah idk where they got those prices from the v strom I think goes for 13k the AT goes for like 17

Cheaper as it should. Prices being the same, the choice is a no brainer. If you have a little less money to spend, the V-strom is still a great bike.

@@renano95 I think you mean the lowest trim v strom is 13k, and the highest trim AT is 17k. The bottom AT is actually like 14. And the highest v strom is around 16k

That's the way to buy a bike!

Same. Got a 1000XT Adventure for $9600.

Good Job!! It's my experience that no one ever pays MSRP on any VStrom including 2020 models. And the longevity and reliability are outstanding.

Maybe I can find a BMW gs1250 for that.....🤣

@@ruinerfixxxer Yes, in 5 years, for one with 60k miles on the clock.

Now let's try a comparisson between v strom 1050 DE and África twin, cause both has inspired same target

Yes, some kind of.. 🤔

what??? Yamaha Tenere 700 is the bike

It really is one in the right hands.

I am starting to think the same. I was really looking at the V-Strom (both the 650 and 1050) for my trip through Central and South America, but watching reviews about the African Twin and it really is intriguing me. My main concern is that I really wanted a bike that it a great road touring bike, and the Honda with the 21" front wheel does feel a bit sluggish on the road. For what I keep hearing. Also, the V-Strom's seat lower to the ground, and I am 5'8", tall for a girl, but those bikes are not built for people my height. Even though after watching this video she makes me feel like a dumbass for even thinking that the Honda is too tall. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oOD9NnTevH0.html Another bike that is really intriguing me and some claim it is better than the African Twin, is the KTM 790 Adventure. Specifically the R or the R Rally models. But with KTM's having issues with oil leaks and some other reliability issues, specially those bikes coming out of their new factory in China, KTM dealers being harder to find in some countries, and KTM's lousy warranty (which ONLY covers the engine, transmission, and rear swingarm), makes the Honda best suited for world traveling. But damn, KTM is doing some great stuff with their bikes. If they only tested their amazing innovations rigorously before pushing it out on their production bikes, lowered the price of their bikes a bit more, and fixed their oil leak issues, they could make the bike to beat. After all, they didn't win Dakar (the mother of all rally endurance racing) for like 19-20 years in the row purely out of luck. Until ironically a Honda beat them this year (2020). But what is impressive is them wining the Dakar Race that many years unbeaten. That is something that I do not see another manufacture do ever again. If you are not familiar with the Dakar race, here is a break down of it. "The Dakar Rally is not for the weak - roughly 9,000 kilometers (5,600 miles) of rocks, sand washes, dunes, desert roads, water crossings, wildlife and everything else in between makes it the ultimate test of man and machine. The event is held in January and is open to both amateurs and professionals. The rally is divided into 15 stages that one must ride (or drive) about 500 miles each day! Hundreds sign up but only a few will actually finish."

@@BikerGirlTraveler what do you think about Yamaha Tracer 9?

And possibly a wayyyyyyyyyy better bike than the new one... apart from the looks - I do like the new styling. The old bike makes similar power, but is 15kg lighter than the new one, doesn't have any stupid rider aides, has better (maybe) dual-purpose suspension, high exhausts, and will still smoke sportbikes on a windy road (in the right hands obviously). I owned a 2003 and loved it.

@@actstuntcam I can't imagine it ever leaving the stable. It replaced an identical bike that crashed into a deer @65 in July '03. I walked away from that crash saying "I gotta get me another one of these."

@@Bdub1952 Yeah, I've sold about three bikes I miss and really regret selling. Tin Tank DRZ400 (Amazing), VStrom1000, and my ZX9B4. I had a mint KTM950ADV, which was fairly incredible off-road, but never really fell in love with it like my Vstrom (I think I'm a strange fish though.) :)

Just rolled over 50k miles on my 02 Vee! Love the ol' girl

My 06 just clicked over 75k. I could not have made a better purchase at the time!

Did you test the DCT it's awesome

@@boomerhgt No, it was the standard bike. Would love to try the DCT though. Its strange how a bike designed for off-road (21inch front wheel) can fee so good on road! Amazing engineering.

Honestly unless you plan on crushing 1000KM days all the time the 1250’s and 1290’s are pretty pointless. The industry as a whole is shifting towards smaller bikes again. I have a Tenere 700 now and on 50/50 tires it’s still pretty unwieldy in the tight technical stuff. I’m not even sure why they bother putting dirt oriented tires on the big bikes.

I agree with you Doug. When I take a long "explore America" trip of 6000 miles with as much "not too technical" dirt and gravel roads as I can find I take my R1200GS and have a great time in comfort. When I want to do some real dirt riding I haul my KTM 500exc out to the area in the back of my pickup and have a blast with it. Different bikes for different missions.

The Honda AT 1100 is not in the same weight class as the GS1250, nor of the KTM1290. As stated in the video, the base AT sits at 220 kg the base GS1250 sits at 250 kg. The base T700 sits at 206 kg. The chassis and suspension of the AT makes it superior for off-roading to everything in its class, and the one below and above it. It is the only big enduro bike (1000 cc and above) that has multiple open class enduro wins out of the box on its track record. It is also the only big enduro bike that is enjoyable off road for novice riders, the rest just don't have that feeling of being in control in the more technical oriented tracks.

My 1290 SAR can go anywhere my skill can take it. I also own an XR650R, so yes a proper off-road built bike is always preferable the looser things become. Regardless, anything with plates is likely going to be compromised when ridden in dirt (my XR included and it's objectively light). Every pound over 300 has a literal impact on the soft ground you're riding on, because physics.

@@DMSparky in mind that 90% rider use them for tour.. And light short offroad..

I believe they did say that, not with those same words. Like when they mentioned the front wheel size difference, sitting position, and so on. Or may be you are right and I read between the lines.

Streettracker??...LOL...from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe

They're the absolute worst "pro" reviewers.

They are different type of reviews, one tries to make a great film about anything and these guys make a good looking chilling review, as long as you really want to learn about how the bike feels. Everything else is just a test ride away

I agree, too much talking without saying anything.

Hard to compete with Ryan’s reviews and video production.

DCT is fabulous on the Africa Twin

When it comes to commute, dct is absolutely lovely

So sorry for you.... I understand your deception..... V strom is so much better...!

@@falchiherve2024 hahahaha..

Just give both bikes a try on the road ........you ll go for the Suzie

Falchi Hervé I already got the AT. Thanks though!

Africa Twin is freaking awesome I have a 2017 DCT I love the damn thing

there's nuff choices l'd say 😊

Hell yeah! Is a ton of money... dobt get me wrong, is a nice bike tho! But... the price is stupid high... 🥴

@@gastonrivera3478 is it? in belgium its not , for a bmw gs you pay 6k more, the suzuki is great value( in belgium) when you compaire it to other bikes witch cost more then 6000 euro's extra

@@pieterschellinck8293 bmw is in another leage 😍... even then... the suzuki vstrom is a solid bike, I have the little 250 and is fair great

@@pieterschellinck8293 And a similiar triumph 900 is 3 to 4 grand more, also my local dealer has one of the 1050XA for sale at 14,799 CAD, THATS A STEAL!

@@gastonrivera3478 - Screw BMW after they started putting Chinese Lincon engines in their chain drive dual sport bikes.

Same, was going to go an AT until I saw the price. You get a lot more bang for your buck for the SAS

In 2016 I purchased the AT in red, black and white with a 6 speed. Yes the OEM tires are a joke. The bike needed a lot of upgrades. So I spent another 3k over the 13k. I'm mixed with the size of these bikes. I won't do that again. The Africa Twin looks to be offered in three models. I believe the base model with some additional add on's would be all I would require.

Yeah they are I just traded my Z1000 for a DCT Africa Twin the Honda is huge compared to it,,,but I'm loving the Twin that damn bike goes anywhere

Good point, but for the regular guy purchasing a new bike, they're most likely to check youtube. The manufactures should outfit their bike with the correct tires instead of cutting corners.

@@WhatTimeIsIt369 I mounted a set of Dunlop Trailmax Missions on my Africa Twin. It was like night and day. I will buy these again. I think they come in the size you need. Here's a review - www.advpulse.com/adv-news/dunlop-trailmax-mission-long-term-review/

love my Strom!!

Just bought a 2020 1050XT Adventure and it's sooo good!

sky works I don’t work for this company but my mate has it on his V-Strom 1000 and loves it. www.mccruise.com/products/suzuki-dl1000-v-strom-from-2014?_pos=5&_sid=1273349a6&_ss=r

I’m pretty sure the weight gain comes from the skid plate, crash bars, and bigger screen. All things we add to our bikes anyways. So I don’t think any weight has been “added”. Shame about the torque band moving up higher. That low down grunt was the best part about the ‘17-‘19 models.

@@jaywhoisit4863 for sure, Triumph Tiger 900 and Africa twin went with a new frame to save some weight. Agree with you.

@@jaywhoisit4863 agree, my thoughts also for the weight gain, plus there's a cost saving on not having to add extras later! the crash bar is substantial, as good as any aftermarket offering! Plus centre stand and new oil cooler also adds to weight, many reviews have suggested the higher revs for torque has improved the engine! I think a test ride is the way forward! rather than listening to what these fellas have to say, if you can manage to watch it all without nodding off😴

@@jaywhoisit4863 , yes and the centre stand.

Me too,never regret it

What is your opinion about the 250cc version of Vstrom ?

@@sonhuynh106 Any knowledge I have of the 250cc model is purely academic as they have not released the V-Strom 250 for sale in the USA. I can't comment with any authority.

It's a Honda we're talking about, of course it will be a reliable bike just like the Suzuki. 50k is nothing on either of them.

@@musguelha14 I hear you. I'm a Big Red fan going way back. But I also like the Suzuki. I've got 66,000 on my V-Strom right now and it has been flawless. It was inexpensive too.

Because riding a standard motorcycle is so hard.

@pm T700 is almost as expensive price in the UK is more than a f850gs of tiger 850 sports

A Vstrom 1050 XT i can get for 13500€, a GS with the same options close to 20K

Yep.....its sold as a street bike....

I haven't ridden the 1050 vstrom, but I know the 2016 1000 vstrom out performs the 1000 At on the tarmac

@@nickanderson1378 It doesn't even come close. The Atas corners, accelerates and sounds way better then the V-strom... and not to mention looks better as well.

@@szaesz8190 If we're talking 1000 strom and 1000 At, on the Road, not dirt, in my experience the strom is quicker in the twisties, better to end and the 21" front wheel on the AT isn't as good on road as the 19" on the vstrom. The AT is a much better looking bike without doubt, but that's reflected in the price in the UK

Should read Top end

@@nickanderson1378 Not really, the 1050 top spec is at 14k £. On paper the V-strom is stronger, in reality it wouldn't compete with my 2019 Atas. You need to testride it, and you'll see what I'm talking about. The V-strom just doesn't add up. Looks like an adventure bike, wants to behave like an old sportsbike, it just doesn't work. The power delivery also on the V-strom is just nowhere compared to the Africa.

No doubt that if you are off-road biased and will cometment that you will really go more off deep then AT.. But for more tourer and that what is happening in real world then the Vstrom 1050xt is the one.. Keep going strong in long-term relationship..

As an owner of a 2020AT, I can say Car Play on the bike is awful. Love Car Play on my Insight, it's just not right on the bike. The touchscreen turns off if you're moving so instead you find yourself choosing options with buttons on the handlebar, which is kinda like entering text on your TV with the provided remote's arrow buttons. But you're on the freeway. Oh and it will only connect once or twice before refusing to work until you forget everything and set it up again. I run a quad lock case connected to a mirror mount and charge it off the bike's USB so the phone's display won't turn off. I'd bet an Android version would have the same problems, just use your phone, the interface is already set up for simplicity and ease of use, KISS!

Don't know why any other manufacturers can't make a multistrada. 19/17 wheels 120/170 tyres 2-3 cylinders not stupid heavy. Any suggestions?

@@chrishart8548 tracer 9 that's about it can't count BMW f900 crappy Chinese engine in it no thanks

@@terrybrooks7140 be nice if the tracer and the f900xr had a 19" front wheel option and spocked wheels. Like the multistrada does

19 inch front wheels on the road don't change direction as well as 17 inch and your choice of tyres isn't as good my multistrada had 17 inch wheels by far the best size for pure road use which is where 99 percent are ridden

@@terrybrooks7140 I have a 21" front wheel so I know what you mean. I'm going to get a 19" front wheel built when a get the chance and fit road 5's

@@abelincoln8446 　If you only drive on paved roads, the tire manufacturer CRF1000LA41 from BRIDGESTONE will be interesting.

With the right tires and in the right hands, they can rock. But they simply are best suited to the slab and an occasional fire road where they really shine.

The adventure sport AT has tubeless for its more touring bias. Might be more your flavour over the base model.

I wish they would make a model without all the electronics

I’m really considering buying 1. The championship yellow is hard in the eyes, that’s the color I found for 11,900

A screen can be changed in a heartbeat. Surely that can't be the deal breaker

U realise u are on a motorbike right?

D Gomes simplicity of Gen1 AT is refreshing and one of the many reasons I like mine. New Gen1 AT’s still available for around $9000 USD - a great value!

Super Tenere is even heavier, has a long time to see a proper update, axis in the back. You can definetely cruise around the world though.

The AT is just a better and more refined machine in every way. I think it’s a strange comparison. The VS is a bike that you use to commute and ride into the hills for a coffee. On the weekend

Honda doesn't like to mark down $$$......lol

Nope if your talking bullet proof Honda is king of bullet proof..Africa Twin for me

@@boomerhgt Actually statistically Yamaha has the least amount of errors of any manufacturer. That said, Honda has a few % less faults than Suzuki.