2020 Indian Chieftain Dark Horse 116! First impression from a Harley-Davidson Street Glide rider. 

I see what you mean but in all honesty, indian has never made a comeback, Indian from 1901 is dead, none of the founders or heirs are in that company now so indian today is a Polaris with a different name. It's a new team, I like the bike I think it looks pretty nice but it only does because it looks familiar, now this established in 1901 is a false advertisement because of what I said above, this is Polaris now not indian. And none of their bikes were built from the ground up, the were the victory counterparts just carried over, dont get me wrong like I said it is nice, but polaris should not have to make a video about how better their brand is over harley Davidson, when Harley doesnt insult anyones bike. Harley is been established since 1903 and never stopped production. It's easier now for every other motorcycle make to to come up with something because they have to ask themselves is what is it about harley that people like and how can we use it on our bikes. So in result you get this bike that is similar looking. Yeah I know you have to compete, but than what your left with is no originality of your own. I've own a honda sabre and a Yamaha vstar and yes I can see where it's a copycat of harley Davidson, I guess the first thing I noticed was the fake oil bag which instead is a battery cover and a toolbag storage, tools so in case, lol.

@@miguelsalgado4673 HD has been in production since 1903, but none of the original owners are around. Neither are their family members. Harley has been sold multiple times to save it from dissolving. Remember, it was once owned by AMF. Polaris bought the rights to the Indian Motorcycle name. It is no different than what the current owners of HD did, or the current owners of millions of other companies have done. As for the bike being similar to a RoadGlide, yes, it has a fixed faring. It has an aluminum frame, which HD RG does not, it has a water-cooled engine, which HD RG does not, it has a mono shock in the rear, while the RG has dual shocks, it has inverted shocks in the front, which HD does not. I could continue to outline the many differences in both, but the fact that it has a fixed fairing is what people will focus on. A fixed fairing, btw, was not something that HD created. It was something that other companies, such as Honda, used before them. So I guess what most people should say is that the Indian Challenger is copying a Goldwing.

@@jaimechavez4580 As far as I know HD was sold to AMF and bought back my management some time later. What's this "multiple times" thing? It is different because Indian was gone and until Polaris came along nobody ever made and Indian motorcycle, after it went out of production many years ago. People just threw a bunch of sourced parts together with an S&S engine.

@@allanmccullough8550 so in your assumption HD has been around since 1903 and a company that's only a few years old are crushing HD in sales and grabbing up all the younger riders? Does that hurt more or less?

Indian has always been better than Harley, my opinion

Thank you for watching Charlie.

I have a Stage IV on my 18" RGS, completely changes the bike!

@@dipppincanuck Yeah you ain't kidding. I have the stage 4 on my 18 Street Glide. It's a beast!

A mate did the same, 8 months later back on the HD

Thanks for watching and the comment Herb

Same here brother. Love it.

Nice Whip98 but you have a road glide, that’s the only bike anyone needs 😆

Thanks for watching Larry, have a blessed day!

I was saying the same thing, very interested in the bike, but for that very reason and the fact they don't have used models below 2015 is why I'm going with HD

Its a good looking bike. Thanks for watching.

Thanks for watching Darin.

Thanks for the comment Mark.

Interesting!

Road Glide ----> I own a 2020, Harley, Electra GlideStandard and the bags are plastic, the side covers are plastic, the chrome dash and gas cap is plastic, the inner faring is plastic, the cover behind the ignition switch is plastic, the chrome cover underneath the headlight is plastic and behind the turn signal is plastic, the turn signal ar plastic. The fit and overall fitness is much nicer on the Harley. The Fox mon-Shock gives a whole lot better ride than even a Harley Extra-glide because it has more suspension travel.

You could say a few things as to why you didn't like it.

More than likely he's just not used to having a modern, comfortable suspension.

Harley haters are hysterical! They hate on Harley but ride foriegn imitations of harleys.

@@igotthis449 News flash! Harley had stolen ideas from Indian in their earlier life. Not too mention that Japanese brands started the street bike or "standard" term before Harley or Indian. So...

Duane Howard You and this guy are typical hog riders. Whining about foreign made bikes that are better than your Hardly American, I mean Harley Davidson bike.

Here's one thing you have to know...the rear shock is air adjustable...so if there was no air in the rear suspension, it WILL feel less planted. Once you get air in it, it's way less squirrelly than the touring Harleys. That's coming from renting an RG, SG and a Chieftain for 1,000+ mile rides. I bought a new 2018 Chieftain after renting them all and I can tell you, riding home from the dealer eith no air in that rear shock was soft and bouncy. Put about 75 psi in that rear shock and 25+ over yellow sign speeds is very easy and planted. In the end though, don't just trust anyone else's opinion...they aren't YOU. Go rent/ride one for a long trip and see for yourself.

I own a 2018 Chieftain Limited, the bike is solid on the highway, I respect your opinion but my experience is great with Indian. I owned HD before great bikes as well

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No, no it is not. The 108 Power Plus is currently in the Challenger only. Expect to see it propagated across the product line, however.

That almost sounds like your giving Harley-Davidson a comment. :) Thanks for watching Servicarrider

It didn't notice any more power. I wonder what rpm does the max torque comes in at? I'd like to see a Dyno run to see it.

Traveling Tall The Indians torque peak is 126 @ 2900 RPM the Harley 114 is 123 @.3000 RPM so not enough to really tell the difference,

Dude - that premis is literally in the title of the video...

*what is the

@@Sig721Tau what's. Nazi.

They're close in price. I think the Chieftain retails a few thousand higher. But offers things like keyless entry saddle bags and the power operated windscreen plus rider modes that aren't yet available in the Harley.

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Brian it’s 28,000 dollars for one of these, same as a street glide.

@@kylemoore9626 I think what Brian meant was that you have to shell more money to make a hog ride and perform better than in stock form. My cousin's Harley shakes like it's gonna fall apart. Lol

Shark, I paid $25,900 for my new 19 Chieftain at dealer. Friend paid 29,000 for SG both factory. Plus it has major out of the box must haves that HD doesn’t. Led lights, retractable windshield, auto/remote locking bags, three ride modes, rear cylinder deactivation, far better sound and infotainment system, Fox adjustable air Suspension. Just superior all the way to HD h as hands down.

Yep, suppose to be liquid cooled. Thanks for watching.

I heard it is a 108.

No, not any more.

@@TravelingTall it sucks they stopped that production line

Pretty much. He just rode one. 😂😂😂

@@JOHNJCLARK agreed. I got one. love it

Air. The Challenger is liquid cooled.

It must be hard for you to do simple things like tie your shoe laces. Lol

I have a chieftain...and its simple, what are you getting at?

Thanks for the comment Top Dogg

By that philosophy, did Harley copy Honda with the RG? Better question, did Harley copy Indian when it released it's first twin? Sweet Baby Jesus, this is a tired, rhetorical, and ill-informed argument.