Hoooooo boy! Mr SavGoose is whining about screens again! Red meat for the olds!!! I call bullshit. I drove this car. Same trim. Same color. No problems with the touch screen. Surprisingly intuitive and responsive, especially if you don't bang on it like a toddler on a piano. You didn't want to like it, so you didn't. Just own it. Also, if you're going to review a semi-luxury Suburban Mom Wagon, then you might not want to admit that you never sit in traffic.
Sad to say if you are ok with this half baked poorly implemented piece of technology and make excuses for it, we are only going to see more and more of it as the mainstream consumer does not know any better. Or better yet thinks its "cool" just because its a screen. Thats what these companies are banking on.
@@savagegeese I live in Sweden and I have a friend that works with these big screens for Volvo. Appearently they are more cost effective to build (if you do it by the masses) rather than the physical buttons. Just look at Volvo, every 2019 model has the same tablet...
I had the same issue at the beginning when I got my Impreza. After the update, it was fixed. I don't mind having a big screen because the words are bigger and I don't have to stare to read. The physical controls for AC are separate which is awesome. Some things need to be physical. I don't want to look away from the road just to change the settings.
@@savagegeese I agree with you about the touch screens. Hate them. Give me knobs any day. Unfortunately old school is going thw way of the do do birds. Also start/stop feature would drive me insane. Thanks
aye, and he should, they are all at it, more functions baked into the screen only (so they can remove the buttons, interfaces and save money), which I find hard to control/access when driving on straight roads, never mind our highland/rural ones. I like my OB 2019 Premium, and the manual HVAC controls.
3:58 of this video... some of the most true words are spoken. So many automotive reviewers just gloss over this. So refreshing that you do not. Get 'em, goose.
As a UI developer for many years; the lack of responsiveness of this system is unforgivable considering the year. I have a 2021 Outback, I have used many other manufacturers systems, and the stupid inclusion of the seat heater control in the laggy boot process is really a poor choice. Thank you for pointing this out; I hope if enough people keep saying it, manufacturers will listen. Stop putting things you need to operate within the first 30 seconds of driving behind a nasty boot load delay. Please.
What I don't understand is why the volume up and down animation locks out the entire screen. You change the volume and then have to wait about 3 seconds for the animation to disappear to be able to do anything else. Unforgivable
I just bought a used 2022 touring xt and the heated seat control is my number 1 pet peeve. I've gotten used to the timing but drove me nuts at first. I love the aesthetic of touchscreens and minimal buttons, but loath interacting with them sometimes. Other than that, I love it.
@@tunatuna8877 there is a software update that will bubble that control to the main screen and remove the annoying two step flyout. If you don't have a button direct on the screen for heated seats, ask your dealer for the upgrade.
Another fantastic review, and mainly because of your honesty. You set yourself apart because you're not afraid to critique the aspects that drive us crazy - technology etc. Please keep doing this Goose!! 👍
I got what I came for: Your blunt review of the infotainment were the very words that needed to be said, along with Your ability to not let that negative bias you against the positives. This is what keeps me coming back spending my valuable time watching!
The infotainment screen size in general is a joke. I’m not here to watch TV, I’m here to drive the damn car. I don’t blame you for ranting at the beginning.
It's like the 90s button hype, more buttons = better car. Now it's the screen size that suggests features. I hope you can at least turn it off at night whist still being able to adjust the HVAC.
It would be great for me on road trips - big screen makes reading sat nav easier. Especially in Japan. As it is Subaru, they installed previous-gen cheapest CPU that Toyota has on stock, so it is slow. Normal stuff from Subaru.
If bigger touch screen means bigger buttons, then i like it. I don't want my eyes be zooming on half x half inch buttons during drive, but physical controls still have to be there for all basic...It's enough that buttons sometimes replaced knobs which had tuning in between selections, i don't wanna only have breakable screen to operate it
Consumers just want S#!T that works... Preach it brother. Glad you keep bringing up the infotainment and lack of physical buttons. Whenever they finally figure this all out I'll be all in, and it shouldn't be this hard, but please, please, keep physical buttons for key controls for now...
Ya for some reason they don't see the safety issue with looking at the screen going through menus, as opposed to pushing a physical button, with a fixed location which can easily be used without looking away from the road
I own two subarus and the two current flaws that will stop me from getting another is the giant screan with no buttons and the stop start. Stop start cost more than it helps, requires bigger alternators that cost more to replace and starters go bad faster while saving maybe .3mpg better... that is negligible.
I own a 2020 Forester Touring, which is quite similar to this and most of the things discussed here are pretty much the same. I have to say that the CVT is an absolute non-issue for me. And before we jump into you're non-car person... I bought the Forester for my wife, my daily is a stage 1 MK7 Golf R with the DSG. Like Mr. Goose said, if you drive it like a family car you will not have any issues with the CVT. That's all the Forester is to me. When I get out of my Golf R and get into the Forester, I drive it like I would any other family car. It wasn't meant to be a sports car. I don't power through corners, I don't do 0-60 runs. I rarely ever notice that it's a CVT as in regular driving the synthetic gear changes are pretty good. On a rare occasion there can be some rev hang if the hill is angled just right and the throttle position is just right. Then again if you think about it, there is a reason why the revs are hanging, it's the most efficient way to get the vehicle to where it needs to go for the parameters. That's the entire point of a CVT. It's all about the right tool for the right job, the latest generation of Forester/Outback, especially in the Touring trim are next level. I've always hated Subaru interiors, but these are seriously good luxurious spaces.
Radio stations are doing this now. Pisses me off so much. My screen is not their billboard. Where my mom lives there is at least one station where all they do is display ads for a Mitsubishi dealer. No song title or artist. Now the stations near me owned by IHeartMedia are also doing ads. At least they normally show the other info and only show the ad lines periodically.
I’m so Glad you are calling out these bullshit central displays, thank you 🙏. I have a 2015 forester XT and the CVT drives me crazy. I’ll never buy another CVT again.
As a 2015 subaru legacy owner I agree with this. I was hoping they made a turbo manual model so I could trade in mine for one but nope. My cvt broke at 99k miles and thank god it was covered by manufacture warranty.
@@zeroelus I have the 4 cylinder but if you do have either one make sure you get the oil changed in the transmission. That's one main reason they fail.
@@v8_sami that might not even cut it. The entire concept of a cvt just wasnt ever going to work in a high torque application, and yes, a flat 4 pushing 170 ft./lb.s qualifies. I personally love the cvt in the forester i test drove years back, but the cloud of catesteophic failure GUARANTEED to happen at or around 100k miles on a vehicle that costs 30k is utterly stupid
Yet again, an incredible review. Totally fair. I own a Subaru and you nailed everything about the brand, build quality, etc. Nothing is perfect, but Subaru is pretty nice, and that's basically good enough for me. Great video
So once you buy in ( to a relationship) this one falls apart and rapidly depreciates. This other one, you can’t get the engine to rev and scream cause she cuts timing. This other one needs an hour or more to go anywhere - wash, gas, clean. This one is so high maintenance she thinks she is an Italian exotic but has the performance of a Prius. This other one has all this high technology and huge screen ( tna) but it doesn’t respond quickly and has to many glitches. So in summary anything on wheels is better than any of your ex girlfriends
4:18 "consumers wants shit that works" Thank you! There are three groups of people that support this mediocracy: 1. auto-company executives that push for these nonsense, or overlook it, (and lie about it) 2. auto-reviewers that gloss over it, or lie by pretending it's not a big issue. 3. online people, that defend these lack-of-quality, blindly.
Yeah CVT kills subaru for me and as much as I want and another Subaru, I will never buy a CVT. 10 years ive owned my subaru always said I wanted another thanks for making my choice for me subaru.
Not even just that but even if they had kept the old 4speed auto, they took the rear mechanical lsd out of the outbacks. I got out of a ditch in my 03 with shitty tires in winter because i could spin both rear wheels
Know exactly what you mean. I tried the Outback (a 2015 Premium model) for about 4 months before the CVT finally got on my last nerve and I traded it in. Liked a lot of things about the Outback in terms of utility and interior quality, but that CVT was just ... ugh! My first and last experience with that crap.
Just found this Savagegeese channel , and love the bluntness and no fear of pointing out the negatives .. bravo . so different from the other car reviewers.
I have owned 3 Subarus. My advice: If you are going to buy one, dont buy it during the first two years of a new model. And although we have an outback with a CVT and 108,000 problem free miles, I wouldn’t buy another one till they stop putting CVT’s in their cars. If they are really desperate to get good EPA numbers, put The CVT and start/stop nonsense on the base trim and advertise that number and give the upper trims a regular Automatic transmission.
Truer words have never been spoken! We have a '15 Outback, and the CVT soaks any driving fun out of it. If they put an 8-speed auto in it, I'd buy the 2020 in an instant. As it is, we're stuck looking at dozens of other CUV/SUV/sedans that each have their own problems, when I really just want a station wagon.
"stop putting CVTs in their cars"? Ain't gonna happen. ALL car manufacturers are moving towards CVTs rapidly. Gotta stay with the competition, and the Federal CAFE requirements.
@@eskieman3948 Good point about Federal CAFE requirements. However, aren't the newer transmissions with 7, 8, 9+ gears as fuel efficient as the CVTs? I've read that somewhere and possibly on some of the auto review videos. I'm also wondering how well built the Subaru traditional transmissions were over the years. I keep hearing of problems with Honda automatic transmissions, and every Honda I've owned has by far the quirkiest non-CVT automatic I've driven. I suppose I've not kept one long enough to see when it might fail but the quirkiness has had me concerned, and now their paint issue has me looking elsewhere which took me to Subaru.
I own a '19 Outback. And my infotainment has a 15- to 20-second lag at start up. You can't even turn the volume down. So it seems like they haven't solved that. And for me, I want my HVAC controls to be physical knobs and switches. It's just better than on-screen HVAC controls in every way. I would never buy that big screen. And think about that auto start/stop technology... if it feels like garbage when it's new, imagine what it will feel like at 50K miles or beyond. No thanks! Yes, these are "old-guy complaints" and I'm an old guy. But I'm also the target demographic for this exact car. And I would never buy it.
I had a '16 Outback and my wife had a '15 Legacy. They both suffered from screen lag at start up. That volume issue is mostly what bothered us as it often seems gremlins get in the car and turn it up (no way I had it that loud, right?). I now have a '19 Ascent and it doesn't have that problem. I don't think my wife's '18 Impreza has a lag either but that infotainment system sucks and there is now a class action lawsuit over it.
I was considering a 2020 Outback and took one for a spin a few weeks ago. The deal-breaker for me is that just about everything is behind a touch-screen! Some controls NEED to stay physical buttons or knobs. Period! Instant access. So, I echo the sentiment here from the 'Goose'. I'll stay with my 2017 Forester, shortcomings notwithstanding.
I can’t agree with you more regarding the infotainment. I was all excited to get either an outback or legacy with the new turbo motor but then I got in and tried to play with infotainment and was appalled. Add on top of that when you connect Apple CarPlay the display for it ends up being smaller than it was on the prior model. The start stop was also atrocious. It really is a shame because as you said the rest of the car so much more refined than the prior model.
You can set the start stop option off....you dont have to use it. If start stop annoys you that bunch just don't buy a car with that option. Subaru base models don't come with it.
@@441meatloaf But you have to turn the start stop option off every time you start the car...at least that's what was said in this video. Base models also don't come with other things a lot of buyers want.
@@kamX-rz4uy You can pull out the fuse of the start-stop under the steering wheel access panel. Subaru makes it very easy for anyone to access it....Because when the engine turns off the computer resets all essential functions to default, its a safety precaution thing they do with all eyesight models. If you complain that basic models don't have features that you want, then you won't be able to get a car that has no start stop functions since all premium trend in most brands comes with that start-stop function and many screen only functions....There is no perfect car in this world, especially in the eyes of terrible subjective reviewers like this guy that even complains about sensitivity of the touch screen when its clearly subjective.
CVTs are awful. Great review as my wife was looking at one of these, but I'd had experience with Subarus in the past and warned her of the interiors. Nice to see things have been elevated.
I have zero problem with cvt. My wife has a ‘19 Outback, and 99/100 people would think it’s a classic automatic. When i drive it, I never feel any disadvantages of it. I have a ‘11 Outback. The cvt is more” raw” in it, its the classic cvt, that is in people head. Although we have been living happily together for 9 years. Once you get used to it, you don’t really notice anything bad. For normal, everyday use, it’s absolutely fine. ( sometimes i even like to “play” with my ‘11 Outback, and at this point I put it in “manual” , works perfectly for me)
You're pretty much the best automobile reviewer on RU-vid and my new fave channel. So refreshing! Keep up the great work and let me know if you ever need help with anything. I'd love to lend a hand.
Thanks for a great honest review. I own a 19 Ascent and I love how smooth and quiet it rides, mine has buttons for the heated seats and knobs for the heater and a/c. I would not want to have to go into a screen to turn on things that should be on separate buttons. The Outback is a really nice car and much better than it's competitors. The CVT does not bother me on my Ascent, if I want to drive a vehicle hard and turn corners fast, I drive my 15 Mustang GT. The Outback like my Ascent is a great family vehicle and most of the drivers in these cars are not going to be racing around.
When I started to watch this review, I felt like the guy seems so sad and needs a holiday. Thankfully, I watched the whole video and was greatly impressed with his review. Pretty fair and well balanced. I am torn at the moment between this and the Forester. My brother in the UK has a 2009 Legacy and when my family and I visit him and drive his legacy I love that thing. Thanks for this review. I'm still torn. New sub.
Great job, Subaru. The best all around car that can do literally everything. We have 2 of these - 2019 and 2021 for us with my wife. So far, we don't want any other car. We re planning just to be upgrading our Subaru Outbacks by trading in our current cars and buying in the newer versions as the come out. I wish Subaru will create a Plug In Hybrid for the Outback, or even EV, this would be a total killer. I wish all the best to all of you!
Thank you so much for your honest opinion of the infotainment system. I want physical buttons put back in my new car and CVT transmissions removed. Period.
The cx5 infotaiment looks like a aftertought, they've created the dashboard and slapped tablet. I don't understand car companies why are they trying so hard to make infotaiment when you can hire Samsung, Apple or doesn't matter top 10-15 mainstream tech companies that are making tablets/mobiles they would make far better system.
@Ted Freddy , the nice CX5 Touring with Turbo is selling around $35k. My daughter has one, I almost bought one also. They have a 6-speed transmission. My father-in-law bought a loaded Kia Sportage for $29.5k . It is very nice, has a 6-speed, nice interior, but is slow power-wise. I ended up buying a Honda Ridgeline RTL-E because it has a great V6 without a turbo, rides great and very quiet, has nice interior, and has the bed for yard work, paid $38.6k .
I appreciate your bluntness. It was amusingly refreshing. On the start and stop, my understanding is that if you don't mash the brake all the way down, then it won't turn off.
Subaru seriously needs to stop with the CVT and just go with an 8-speed. And that infotainment is ridiculous - loved how you just laid into the stupidity of it. I'm surprised, though, that you didn't mention the glossy plastic - car companies need to quit with that crap.
Hated the engine stop start system on my non Subaru..I bypassed it, pushed down the off button and wedged in a small piece of credit card BINGO !! Now off forever until I remove it.
I read/watch auto reviews all the time and as good as you are, the one thing that I especially appreciate is how you brake down a car for its intended purpose. Most of the reviews from "car guys" would review a vehicle like this and compare it to a high end sports car and then complain because its not as good. Then there are the ones that basically just quote stats they read off the spec sheet and make it seem like there reviewing it. Add in some salty language from time to time and you are truly a pleasure to watch.
damn we're in 2020 and look and the screen response, look at the software as he says feels like windows 98 !! such a shameful from subaru that cheat you as the screen size, well in the end its a subaru nothing to expect high...
I have the 2020 Onyx XT. The lag is only there on my car when first stating the system up in the morning for the first time. Subsequent starts are much much faster.
@@miriveq I haven't noticed a difference in screen responsiveness between 60F or -1F temperatures. It hasn't been colder or hotter here beyond those temperatures. And the infotainment system behaves the exact same way at either end of the spectrum.
Your brutal honesty is refreshing. I one hundred percent agree, its completely unacceptable to have a laggy infotainment system. The technology is available to make them snappy but they continue to put garbage hardware inside. Keep up the great work! 👍
That is SO good to hear it’s smooth and quiet !! We’ve had 5 Suubies over many years and only 2011 Outback rode smooth enough for me and arthritic back. That was 1st Gen CVT sans any "virtual" shifts, just a rubber band, constantly whining up and down, talk about wretched !! The next generation I must say is wildly improved. Maybe it works better sans the power of turbo. If a smoother and quieter ride, I may be able to tolerate more electronic geekiness of large screen. I read somewhere there is a way to permanently kill the start/stop BS. I think your words on such a smooth ride with body roll turns me on enough to frown on trying for a Forester, esp’y with ~5" less wheelbase of Forester. But that Forester control center may be less vexing. "Oh well", nothing is perfect. We live up north, lots of snow, gravel road. Hence Suubies. CVT was a very welcome 4 mpg average, if not 5 mpg improvement over old 4 speed Suub autos. I’m rather happy with 2nd gen if saving that much fuel. Easy 30/31 mpg summer. Cold temps drop 5, as in all gas motors. Adios.
I watched this video with great interest. I bought one ! I bought my Outback Touring XT with every accessory possible and am excited to receive it next week. I am saying good bye to my 2017 Lexus NX which rides nicely on highways but is awfully choppy and harsh on back roads. I want the non fatigue couch like ride this car provides. I love the slightly altered look of the new 2020 Outback Touring and am looking forward to sitting quietly on roads and enjoying the open road. Thanks for your review.
Big screens are cumbersome and impractical. Why try to reinvent the wheel with software and touchscreens? There is no need to diverge from the "3 knob" AC setup. When I get in a car I should immediately know how to work the AC. If I had to hunt through laggy menus to turn the temperature down I would punch a hole through that damn screen.
Subaru moved the start/stop button to the home screen with an update. Easy to turn off - takes a second and one push of a screen icon. As far as the screen goes, I've got used to it pretty fast. Set the climate control and seat ventilation where I want it and I'm done. It does have buttons on the side for increasing or decreasing the temperature. Has a knob for volume for the radio. I just don't need to mess around with the menus that much now that I have things set. I'm basing this on a Legacy Touring XT I bought a week ago. Same drivetrain and same interior. I have never owned such a comfortable car. My 6' 3" frame fits it better than any car I've ever been in. Tons of legroom, pull out thigh support extender and just overall plush seats. The ride is so quiet and comfortable. Its going to be primarily a highway cruiser and for that purpose its damned near perfect.
I couldn’t agree with you more regarding the infotainment screen. I made the mistake by buying the first model year Infiniti Q50. It would take 30-45 seconds for the infotainment screen to boot up upon startup and it would drive me BONKERS. I couldn’t even turn the A/C on until it fully booted up. It was the ONLY reason why I got rid of the car.
Thanks for another good review. I have the 2020 Outback XT and agree with all your points after 2000 miles, some of which has been in deep snow with snow tires. The infotainment is saved by Apple CarPlay. Set your music and/or directions, plug in your phone, and don’t bother with the screen. I only use the big screen to turn on the seat heaters. I didn’t even plan to buy this car. I went out to buy the RAV4 and decided to test drive the Subaru before purchasing. I couldn’t turn it down and bought the Subaru on the spot. The CVT isn’t good, but I deal with it if it means I can have that AWD in snowy and icy conditions.
Review is pretty spot on as always. I've driven a 2017 and 2019, and must say while the outback is comfortable, the CVT is all over. The 2017 CVT seems better unless cold. Then, it sounds like it will die. The 2019 shuddered quite a bit. There were many electrical gremlins with the 2017. When it gets too cold, can't get into the car (needed new relays). Batteries dying prematurely, etc. Subaru has a quality issue that should give consumers pause before throwing them a lot of money.
Dating advice for the CVT: "just be yourself". I have a 2013 Crosstrek and I don't mind that it rev hangs and stays in the powerband. It actually feels faster than the 2019 loaner that I drove while mine was in for the valve spring recall because it doesn't waste time "fake shifting". Watch a 5 minute video on how a CVT works and you won't want it to "fake shift". Also for all those who think it will grenade at 100k, there are plenty of people with Subaru CVT's approaching the 200k mark. Just don't jam it into reverse from drive, get the fluid changed every 60k, and don't use the useless manual mode to hoon it.
Right on. I love it when you tell the truth! laggy interface is a deal killer, next foo foo is the crap cvt. Other than that, nice car. BTW, I like how you stuck titles or chapter description in time line! Good job.
I own a 2020 Onyx XT and I like most of the improved features compared to my 2015 Outback Limited. However there are some things that needs a lot of improvement. 1. The nightime resolution of the front view and back up camera is very bad, that makes it so hard to see. I do not understand why SOA has failed to test this before it was released. 2. The location of the front USB ports are not convenient. 3. Auto start/stop is not smooth & annoying. 4. Tires used are lower quality that the ones they used on the 2015 OB. 5. Sound system on the Onyx is low quality. 6. Auto vehicle hold has to be activated whenever you start the car. Not controlled by on/off switch on 2015.
Production Quality note: Whatever secret you guys use to get the ads or play at natural pauses and cutaways, it is much appreciated! PLEASE share this black magic with other content creators. It’s so much better this way. Another excellent review BTW.
I was seriously considering the CX-5 but I was surprised the two year old cx-5 is almost 10k more than the 2 year old outback with similar odometer miles and similar trims. I can stretch out my long legs better on the outback too. I'd rather take comfort over fun to drive
I have zero problem with cvt. My wife has a ‘19 Outback, and 9/10 people would think it’s a classic automatic. When i drive it, I never feel any disadvantages of it.
OMGWTFLOL Sorry, but you are wrong! I love to drive, and i love to drive both my and my wife’s Outback. They are both good cars, even with cvt, believe me! Life is not black and white! 😀
“Consumers want shit that works” 10/10 can confirm, am a consumer who spends his time waiting for his car to boot up to turn on the heater by daydreaming about burning it to the ground.
Such a quality review, love the real was about this screen....I have a 2017 4Runner, absolutely love the car but the display is the entire reason I’m swapping. Good to hear someone else being honest and pissed about bullshit...if you are a technology fan, this is what you care about!
The main reason I own two new Subarus is that they have the manual available with AWD. If I'll be forced to buy automatic-only there are better cars then Subaru for sure.
Cvts are not inherently bad. Its when you pair it to a sub 200hp engine in a 2 ton car... the 2.4L and the 3.6L outbacks were actually really good with the CVT. Personally i own a 2.5I CVT and a 3.6R 5speed legacy and the CVT is a better daily. The 3.6r is the better road trip car.
I own a 2020 Subaru Outback. It is mechanically very sound, but there are three design decisions that everyone should know about before buying one: [1] It is very heavy on software control. When you see software, you should think "bugs." I have had three different software bug issues in the 6 months I have owned the car. [2] You cannot permanently disable auto stop/start. You have to turn it off with every ignition cycle. [3] If you need to install a trailer hitch, the one from Subaru has a 1.75" receiver, not the standard 2" receiver. If you install your own hitch with a 2" receiver, it voids the warranty.
"2] You cannot permanently disable auto stop/start. You have to turn it off with every ignition cycle". WRONG. Install the AutoStop Eliminator, turn off the Auto Start/Stop, it stays off until YOU choose to turn it back on (why?). Try to keep up....
"It does everything so well" no wonder, it is a wagon after all. I get a Volvo or Audi wagon vibe from it. Put that on stilts and AWD = good mix. I do share your anger with the laggy electronics, oversized screen that takes up hard button space and scepticism about the scanning of one's face. I would not want this in my car.
Finally, someone that's reviewing the outback and rating it off of what it was designed for and not comparing it to a koenigsegg and taking points off because of its 0-60 times.
I had an 06’ with a manual gearbox and it was one of my favorite cars. Too bad they have this CVT crap as the only option. That alone is why I’d never buy it. VW Alltrack is the closest thing out there and it’s all wheel drive and available with a stick! Unfortunately that’s being discontinued. Appreciate the great reviews!
I have been watching RU-vid car reviews for years and years; and have never come across you before now.....what a shame (for me)! Your review on this vehicle was was great! Very honest, informative and painted a complete picture of the new Outback....the good....the bad....the ugly. I drive the previous generation Outback 3.6R and was thinking of upgrading. I will be watching more of your reviews for sure. Would have been great to have seen some off-roading footage as well.
The lower trim levels all have the same infotainment system (from premium and up). Nobody really buys the base model Subaru's, but if they do the base trim level has essentially the same system just split between two LCDs. There's no physical buttons among any of the trim levels.
My 2016 Outback is quiet and smooth with a suspension that absorbs Midwest potholes. The CVT matches the character of an SUV and provides great mileage
Wow your reviews are straight forward, I really like it. I like how you don't sugar coat things and to the point. Looking forward to more of your videos.
I hope they’ve improved the quality of the “leather” seat material. I’m bringing my ‘18 3.6r into the dealership tomorrow for warranty replacement of the driver’s seat bottom cover. (Splitting vinyl trim at 30K miles) I do like the drivetrain and hauling capability, but the interior is crap: cracking vinyl, squeaking driver’s seat, seat memory loss after a couple of days, infotainment head unit has been replaced twice under warranty. Read the forums at SubaruOutback.org before buying one. Finally, this is the 1st year of this generation; there WILL be problems.
Had same issue on my 2016. 3.6 r outback at 33k miles. Navigation system sucks. The whole infotainment system is a pos. Love the 6 cylinder. I pull a 16’ boat with it
Love your reviews sir. I'm seriously considering switching to a subaru outback 2023, would love to see a review on that. Kudos to you for all the great work.
