Agree very annoying! My '08 Subaru Outback remote start made sense, doors locked on start, open get in, if you push the brake without key in ignition it turns off. This is just dumb.
It’s annoying... but I also didn’t know I could do that with my key till now! Been starting it with my Apple Watch. This is much better, the delay with the app is.... 1999 vintage
What I like about the 4runner over the Tacoma is the inside space. The 4runner have a larger interior and a better driving seating position and better head space compare to the Tacoma.
I prefer the truck style of the Tacoma because you can much more easily load up large or dirty cargo (mini bikes, kayaks, hay, rocks, etc…) much easier to clean with just the hose and easier to load in and out. Also if you need covered storage space you can easily find a new quality topper for the bed for less than $800. And don’t forget the Tacoma has the option of having a manual transmission 😛
2019 TRD Off-road in red: Best blind spot monitor is between your ears, just install these RAV 4 mirrors: Toyota part number: Left 87961-42D20 Right 87931-42D50 less electronics = more reliability ; no thanks to the push button start, I’ll keep the physical key. TRD JON, great content, but can you do an off-road test on a 2021 with actual dirt/mud splashed on the front sensor panel ? Would love to see the results !
Such a gorgeous 4Runner! This is my dream car! The pictures and videos of lunar rock just do not do it justice until you see it in person like you said! It’s amazing! Nice video! 👍
Glad I bought my 2016 Trail when I did for $35K. Prices on cars these days is getting ridiculous and only getting worse. I can imagine for a new model comparable to what I bought it's another 5 grand at minimum. Tis only going to get more expensive with the 6th gens.
Great review! I picked up my 2021 TRD Off Road Premium with KDSS last week and I’m in love with it! Only gripe is the sluggish pedal response. Saving up for that Pedal Commander and installing ASAP!
Just got my Magnetic-Gray Metallic TRD Pro last Thursday. Loving it so far. It replaced a Subaru Crosstrek which was overall too lightweight for my needs. I needed more towing capability and more off road capability. Although Lunar Rock looks great, I like the way the Gray Metallic goes with the wheels. I enjoy your reviews. I added a Pedal Commander and for me it was worth the cost. Nice to have a livelier throttle response.
I made the exact same trade! From Crosstrek into a magnetic grey TRD pro. Lunar rock looked good in the shadow, but I didn’t like the way it looked in direct sun.
Love, love my 18 TRDORP, coming from an 11 FJ. Want to spend a few years slightly modifying the 4R. Am interested though in the review of the Tundra! One awesome looking truck.
I would pick a 2007 4runner over the new one, 4th gen was the best year IMO, just enough electronics and there built tuff, but the new ones are tuff as well. I hope toyota sends more trucks your way! Can't wait to see that tundra
@@trailrunnah8886 It’s not garbage as the 4Runner isn’t meant to be a performance vehicle. If you want performance, buy a Highlander! The 4Runner is meant for off road and super dependable. The 4.0 excels at both.
Thanks Jon! I was having the hardest time deciding but your video helped me choose the Venture Special Edition model instead of the Pro and save a good amount. The Pro is worth it without the insane dealer mark-up imo, but that doesn't exist in my area unless you want to be on a 6 mo. to 1 yr. waiting list with no guaranteed delivery.
Oh, and the feedback on the hard brake and nose diving and suspension feel, thanks for that. My 2019 SR5 is in need of something to mitigate the nose dive. Thanks again!
Amazing. I'm so obsessed with this Lunar Rock colour it's not even funny. Was thinking of waiting for a 2022 model to see if there's any new body improvements and better MPG but at the same time I'm worried that turbo's, etc might jeopardize the bulletproof longevity of this current engine/transmission. Besides it would go perfect with my $SPCE licence plates. Any advice ?
Yeah I agree, they need to update the light headliner color, I wish they added BSM detectors in the side mirrors, and the new head unit, along with the updated dash cluster, with TPMS are awesome! But still happy with my 2018. Great review as always Jon!
Spot on Jon! The exact thoughts that I’ve been having since my wife got hers. One other thing I love that I love on the 4Runner verses the Tacoma. The seats and overall feel of the 4Runner is far superior to my Tacoma. I really can’t wait to get in mine! Keep up the excellent content! 👍🏼
Good summary Jon. I got this exact vehicle up in Canada in Lunar Rock. The headlights must be different up here... The high beams are not in the low beam projector, but they are a) the same bulb as the daytime running lights (required up here due to 9 months of winter :) and b) are halogen!!! I swapped out these for the Extreme LED Depot with daytime running light driver and now they work really well and compliment the LED low beams. Pedal Commander on its way - I can't deal with the throttle response!
I expect the easier things ie. blind spot monitor and the cruise control to be in 2022. Toyota is weird how they do things sometimes. Carries over to Lexus too.
yeah, sold my 18 pro, and just picked up my 21 pro for all the reasons you mentioned. even with the headlight improvement, still might upgrade those, once a 21 version is available. Must replace all interior lights, I did that the day I took it home.
For the price toyota wants for the 2021 4runner trd pro, they should make it at least as equally "modern" as the premium highlander or rav4. However, they knew the demand would always be there, so they decided to milk a cow till its dry on the 4runner.
Nice review. I agree with your assessment and that’s why I purchased a 2021 Venture edition. I think it’s a good combo of the different features of the other 4Runners.
yes, remote start is stupid as hell. My pathfinder procedure is push close button and then hold remote start button. doors are still locked, if you push anything before pressing break pedal and start button, it shuts down....easy, simple, works. safety my ass
Thank you, Toyota, for sending Jon a vehicle to review. Thanks, Jon. I like your feedback on all the items listed. I think the remote start needs to be updated. Press unlock button for 1-2-3-Hold for 3secs - that's a lot more involved than I think should be the case. Probably should be something like: Press unlock button 1-2-3(locks), vehicle starts up with doors locked, come up to the vehicle to unlock at the door touch sensor or press unlock on the remote, enter the vehicle and proximity sensor detects you have the key and off you go - foot on brake, release the e-brake and shift to D or R.
Jon - awesome channel you have here. It’d be awesome for someone with your 4R experience to compare 2021 TRD Pro with the re-tuned Fox shocks to 2021 TRD Off Road with KDSS.
I have two friends who both lost high end 4x4's to thieves while they were running unattended, I think this new kill engine feature when door opens is great.
The remote start on my Limited has not bothered me a bit. My wife's remote start on her RX350 does the same. It only requires pushing the start button when you want to go somewhere with the car. You CAN BYPASS THE PRESSING OF THE BRAKE PEDAL with the park release switch located by the shifter. Once in gear, for safety, the car will not turn off if the brake pedal is pressed if no key is detected. So, you can steal a Toyota once the engine is running and put in gear. This is why it turns off when you open the door. It is the most likely step to take when stealing a Toyota.
Another great video and good to know what to expect with these newer 4Runners from your personal experience! I have a 2006 4Runner and have been going back and forth about upgrading but hate to spend $50,000 and downgrading from my V8 to a V6. I am going to wait and see what Toyota puts out in 2023 for the 6th Gen 4Runner.
@@TRDJon All 3 with-in 2 months. It was crazy timing that I needed 3 vehicles in 2 months for my family. It was towards the end of the 2019 model year so I could have gotten 2020's but choose to go with the 2019's as I didn't want the new tech packages. I've done a couple of mods in each of the trucks and I am fairly active on the 4Runner forums.
Great review on an awesome truck! I’ve been looking to get into a TRD Pro for a couple months now and impossible to get. Local Toyota dealer said maybe 4 enroute this August but none will be in Lunar Rock…might have to settle for a grey metallic one which is still awesome I think!
Awesome vid and super sexy color. So far I’ve only seen one of these beast out in the wild on the freeway and it broke my neck. One thing I hate about my 2020 TRD Off Road are the cup holders. Have almost thrown them out in accident about a million times already since they don’t sit nicely. Velcro them down and eventually with the heat it wore off. 😞
The 5 dislikes about the legendary 4runner are almost no one's concern. Who cares about the dark roof or the remote starter, sound system and high beam etc buy Porsche CayenneS that comes with built in Bose sounds system.. there are other SUVs with cool sound system and gadgets but shity overall. 4runners are not supposed to be a luxury SUV..it's rugged, simple and solid AF. I drive SR5 premium and I absolutely love it, I spent 10g converted it to TRD instead of paying 20g extra to the dealership..I also have JK Rubicon 4dr..I like it but the fact that my 4runner gives me 7 seats and the reliability is unbeatable in the market, right? You compared Silverado with 4runner..that was hilarious 🤣. 5/5 to your 👍👍👍👍👍. Good video!
This. I wanted something reliable with the intentions of having it for a while. With the weather we have had so far it's been well worth the investment. Get a luxury vehicle if you want the bells and whistles.
I have remote start on my '16 and have a '21 Pro on the way .... and I can count on one hand how many times I have used the remote start, but get for some it may be useful. Agree it's dumb to shut the truck off when you open the door. That is something I noticed the first time I tried it.
Hey Jon, you are always the first to know so I have a question. Rumors are swirling from several youtube channels about a 2022 4runner refresh. I am curious what you have heard. This would be 1 year earlier than we thought. Its it possible for Toyota to have kept this secret for so long?
I appreciate leaving the request for likes and channel subscription to the end of the video. Typically, when youtubers open with that, I'm out. Good job on the review.
I love my 2020 ORP. I just ordered the interior 2nd row doors, back and hatch interior cover's. The only thing I think they should change is the rear ac vents. When seats down, they block them. Should be up by top of windows in the ceiling, like the Sienna.
Personally i wish they would get rid of the adaptive cruise control, lane departure system and all that garbage. Blind spot monitoring is great but that’s it
I'm looking to get at the end of this year. Either the TRD PRO TUNDRA OR TRD PRO 4 RUNNER. Which one would your suggest. Both would be an 2019 model year.
i have the viper 1 touch installed on my limited when purchased, much quicker than this, but toyota installed it in a way where i need to unlock the vehicle first, which to me ISNT safe, because intruders can sneak in your truck, get you once your in and youre screwed, so stupid, so i had a shop actually change it and make it so the 4runner stays locked until i open the door.
Almost all push to start cars/trucks will shut off when you open the door with remote start, no? I know the Toyota Factory remote has always done that.
I think this is true on remote start with push to start. The best remote I ever had was an aftermarket on a 2008 Tacoma. It had great range and did not shut off but it was not push to start.
I love T4R but they are very lacking in modern tech. The remote start is a BS excuse. All the vehicles I've had with remote start the system starts and thats it. No audio, no functioning actions other than the seats heating and heater running.
Hey Jon great review! My 2021 4Runner Premium with LED headlights, I don’t know what to call it. A ghost line at the top of the low beam. Not sure if it’s the lenses or bulb. I don’t really see it on the high beam. Have you heard of anything like that?? Thanks
you be lucky to get it for 50,000 msrp ... i shopped around and got mine for nearly 70 out the door. some wanted 12k premium...the best I could find was 5.
The remote start problem is silliness. Not only does it shutoff, but no lights are on to co firm it’s running! Toyota electronics are poorly laid out. Even the radio controls. Volume is not Up and Down, it’s Left and Right! The station controls are Up and Down, but they’re backwards! Up is down and Down is up when scanning stations. In addition, the controls don’t have lights. The sunroof, traction controls, and auto headlight switches are all dark. WTF Toyota? On one hand a new design is coming. On the other hand this design hasn’t evolved. How many years have they had to make improvements? What would it cost to include LED lights inside and out? I came to Toyota from a Chevrolet Equinox that was 5 years older and $15k cheaper and it had way more electronic upgrades.
That remote start is a bone head move, does not make sense, A good remote system only allows the engine to run, no accessories will operate so kids, animals, etc can't interact with the vehicle, it's an old system that needs to be re-thinking. I hope the new 4Runner stays true to a classic 4x4, one with a V6 and V8 engine option (but that will be a long shot) good review, love the walkthrough
The cruise control sucks. If your on a slight incline it’ll revs up and stops and revs up and stops until you get on flatter ground like it can’t figure out your going up hill
All-in-all, I love the look and customization of 4Runner’s, but it is absolutely not worth the MSRP if you’re just going to put thousands into customizing. It’s just behind the curve in interior and infotainment system
I partially agree with your statement... I think the 4Runner is a vehicle that pays to buy used, save thousands. I saved $22K CAD by buying my 2015 4Runner and it's actually gone in up in value based on Autotrader comps since I bought it in Sept 2020. If it's going to be your long-term vehicle, buying new can still make sense though because the value retention is just so good on the 4Runner.
@@mikec3454 I sold my 2008 Tacoma TRD Sport in 2018 with 115,000 miles for $13,000. I paid $28,000 for it. Toyotas have great resale value. I just got a 2021 TRD OR. There are a few things I'm not wild about. Do these few things want to make me try another brand after owning Toyotas since 1983 ? No way.
MSRP on anything other than a TRD Pro 4Runner isn't worth it. Color and badging sells. I bought my 2016 TRD Pro 4Runner in that years Quicksand color for 43,400 and just sold it five years later for 40,000 flat. These 4Runners fight depreciation, always worth it.
@@jc15a32 I bought my 16’ White TRD Pro used 2 years ago for 38K and I have offers for 37K which is astonishing how well these TRD Pro’s hold their value.
@@jordihouston9885 exactly it's unbelievable. People get all high and mighty about TRD Pro's being a rip-off but don't realize they are stable assets. Forever a Toyota owner.
Right or wrong, the lack of blind spot monitor is a deal breaker for me. Was about to pull the trigger but with 2 teen drivers in the house , the lack of this feature is bothersome and a deal breaker for me at the moment
@@shawnjordan5712 well, if you have a significantly more expensive truck, I'm betting it's got something with some power under the hood. That said, you'd probably find the 4Runner pretty disappointing to drive. It's really let down by the engine and transmission. I have one, literally every time I drive it I wish for a better drivetrain.
My 2021 4runner TRD Pro exhaust makes so much noise the rear seat passengers can't hear the front seat passengers when accelerating. Anyone else experienced this? Wondering if I need to get it checked out?
So is lunar rock better then calvary blue? Best colors on trdpros are Tundra: Army green 4Runner: Voodoo Blue Tacoma: Cement/Voodoo blue Sequoia: 😬 Please comment with your best colors 👇
Great points. Thanks for sharing. I just got a 21 TRD Pro Tacoma, I think this affirms that I made the right choice, albeit sacrificing the interior space. I’ll reconsider when the new generation comes out, hopefully with some better tech. The remote start drives me crazy. All Toyota and Lexus do it apparently. If you have the tech to do keyless entry, surely you can make it smart enough to not turn the car off by touching the door. Ridiculous.
